Name of Church St. Joan of Arc Chapel (Now a Church)
Address 4772 E Poleline Ave, Post Falls, Idaho
Phone number 208-660-6036
Website www.stjoanarc.com
Mass times Monday – Friday, 6:30 a.m. & 12:15 p.m. Saturday, 6:30 a.m. & 9:30 a.m. Sunday, 7:30 a.m., 9:30 a.m. and 11:30 a.m. All Masses are Latin Tridentine; you can borrow an English-Latin missal at the parish.
Confessions Saturdays, 4 – 5 p.m., Sunday, 45 minutes before each Mass, Monday-Saturday, 30 minutes before each Mass.
Names of priests Father Dennis Gordon, pastor. Father Daniel Nolan, assistant pastor. Both are members of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter; its priests are traditional, orthodox and offer the Mass and sacraments according to pre-Vatican II rites. Sermons and religious education classes are posted on the website, although you’ll need to ask when you visit the parish for password access. (Check out Father Gordon’s well-received sermon on Islam.)
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Music The Sunday 9:30 a.m. liturgy is a High Mass, meaning it is sung. It incorporates a choir, organ and incense. Low Masses have no music.
Special activities Apologetics group, catechism classes for various ages, First Saturday breakfast, Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner program, Little Flowers, Pro-Life group, St. Anne’s Group, bible study, St. Tarcisius’ Group, exposition of the Blessed Sacrament on Sundays and First Fridays, Our Lady of Fatima devotion.
Fellow parishioners This is a mostly Anglo, English-speaking, working class community. Many are large families. Coeur d’Alene is a tourist town on a lake, however, so you may see some visitors.
Parking The lot is small, so you may need to park on the street.
Acoustics Fine. Remember, during the Low Mass the priest prays softly most of the time, so you may want to sit in the front if you want to hear.
Cry room Yes, in the rear. It is separated from the church by glass. It is for moms only; usually those nursing babies.
Additional observations This is an old-school parish, the only one of its kind in the state of Idaho operating with permission of the retiring bishop of Idaho, Michael Driscoll (originally from the diocese of Orange in California). Please wear your Sunday best; women are asked to wear a dress or skirt and head covering.
This sounds like a wonderful parish for those who like, appreciate and want a traditional Latin Mass. The order of priests is well trained to deliver a first rate liturgy. I don’t, however, understand the request for women to wear dresses and skirts. I know that styles change over the years, but slacks and pant suits have been the “conservative” mode of dress for women for a few decades now. Of all of the hundreds of friends that my wife has, most going to church nearly every Sunday, there are only a couple that I have seen in a dress or skirt. These are very conservative women, of a certain age, who always dress nicely for church. Is it in the Bible or in church teaching that dresses are required at Mass? This is a question not an editorial!
Bob One, I believe the answer is more a traditional interpretation of modesty. I for one do not understand this dress code myself, to me everyone should observe modesty and dress properly for mass, neat and clean, no ripped jeans, shorts or athletic shoes should be worn. I see no problem with a women wearing pants to mass. I attend the TLM weekly and there are plenty of women who wear pants and I see no issues at all. I am thankful they have shown up…See Bob One we can have a meeting of the minds,,,
For both Men and Women – – – – –
” Dressing Modestly (especially at Mass)” – ORDINARY FORM of the Mass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZHECJJbzPM
” How should people dress when attending the EXTRAORDINARY FORM (Traditional/Latin) ?
As a rule, people tend to dress more formally at the Traditional Latin Mass than at the Novus Ordo (Ordinary Form) in the United States.
Women wear suits, dresses, or skirts and blouses and men
wear either suit and tie or shirt with tie.
The thinking behind this is simple: we are going to God’s house, the courts of the
Lord, to worship Him.
Angels are present even though we can’t see them.
If you were going to see the President of the United States or the Queen of England, what would you wear? God is worthy of our best mode of dress. ”
https://unavoceventura.org/resources/Tips%20for%20Participating%20in%20the%20Traditional%20Latin%20Mass4.pdf
Mantillas and Chapel veils are available at most Catholic catalogue sites on the internet, including EWTNs.
Prior to the revision of Code of Canon Law in 1983, Women’s heads were required to be covered #1262.
The Extraordinary Form / Traditional Latin Mass is in accord with the Roman Missal of 1962.
When attending this Church, their wishes should be honored regarding dress – regardless of personal opinions.
But “their wishes” are precisely that – their opinions! Opinions of catholics who think the church reached perfection in 1950, not a minute sooner, not a minute later!
I have friends in northern Idaho who attend this parish and Anonymous is wrong when he thinks he know what these people think. They simply love Our Lord and appreciate the beauty of the traditional mass. The people I know that go there have always and continue to dress in a formal manner in respect for Our Lord, the King of Kings. My friend has always said they dress in a manner that shows their deepest respect in the context of their lives. That is not something that should belong only to the 1950s. However, much of the respect that was shown then, unfortunately is lost to many Catholics today who come to church in torn jeans, shorts, exercise spandex pants, ski clothing, swimsuit tops and flip-flops. If you are comfortable judging the motives of the former; you should be even more comfortable doing so today!
Now here is a church! All parishes should have at least one regularly (Sunday, normal church hours) TLM. Bishops refuse this because they are like cockroaches, afraid of the light, afraid of discovery. Put side by side with the N.O., the TLM shines. Given the truly awful nature of the present Church, even teaching the youth about Traditional sacraments would cause them to leave the N.O. in droves. By comparison, the Ordinariate Mass is also much more devote and special than the N.O. Finally, take a look at how young these priests are. Soon the Liberal loons will be gone and the young Traditionalists will take over (unless they are eliminated from the clergy by the Vatican hit squads). Good information.
God Bless these Priests.
For those who are attending an EF (Extraordinary Form / Latin) Mass for the first time or on a rare basis, it will help you to have a copy of the “LATIN-ENGLISH BOOKLET MISSAL”.
https://www.fraternitypublications.com/labomi.html
Of course for those who attend the EF Mass on a regular basis, the “ROMAN MISSAL of 1962” is recommended.
With having attended the beautifully celebrated Traditional Holy Mass there, I can only say that the description of this FSSP chapel is modestly understated.
It IS a wonderful, inspiring source of our spiritual energy: Sanctifying grace.
Yes, it does sound like a terrific church with fine priests. One suggestion … I’d like to listen to the priests’ homilies online. I think you should be able to listen without a password. I wonder what the rationale for requiring a password is?
2 Great Priests simply acting like priests, no nonsense!
In addition to the recommendation for the “LATIN-ENGLISH BOOKLET MISSAL”
for those who are attending the Extraordinary Form (Traditional/Latin) of the Mass for the first time or rarely (inexpensive – less than $7 dollars) –
https://www.fraternitypublications.com/labomi.html
This is a wonderful and not too expensive Missal –
” ST. EDMUND CAMPION MISSAL and HYMNAL”
https://www.ccwatershed.org/Campion/
For women and girls who are interested in a MANTILLA, they are also available at the EWTN catalogue site for as little as $6.50 plus shipping.
https://www.ewtnreligiouscatalogue.com/shop.axd/Search?keywords=mantilla&x=0&y=0
Search your Diocese web site for the closest EF MASS (Traditional/Latin).
If the Diocese web site does not have this information, call your Diocese Office and ask.
Or you can also search FSSP (Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter) to get info from them.
“SUMMORUM PONTIFICUM” – Regarding the Extraordinary Form of the Mass
issued Motu Proprio.
(Vatican web site)
https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_commissions/ecclsdei/documents/rc_com_ecclsdei_doc_20110430_istr-universae-ecclesiae_en.html
Missals and song books should be in the pews. We should never charge someone to come to a Catholic Mass or to become Catholic. It goes against the teachings of Christ.
Nobody is advocating charging anyone to become Catholic, Bob One.
. It goes against the teachings of Christ….Explain?
Great info, Maddie.
I hope people save the links and pass them on to others.
Bill