Name of Church St. Joan of Arc Church
Address 6404 Washington St., Yountville, CA 94559
Phone number (707) 944-2461
Website www.stjoanofarcparish.com
Mass times Saturday vigil 5 p.m., 7 p.m. (Spanish); Sunday 9:30 a.m. (Latin Tridentine); 11 a.m.; 12:30 p.m. (Spanish). Monday through Friday, 8:30 a.m. Thursday, 5:30 p.m. (Latin Tridentine).
Confessions Monday after Mass, Saturday, 4 p.m. and by appointment.
Music Cantors.
Names of priests Fr. Daniel Roa, parochial administrator. Fr. Roa is a traditional, old-school priest who celebrates both the Latin and Ordinary form Masses.
School No.
Special parish activities Altar Guild Society, monthly men’s holy hour, men’s public rosary, Friday Eucharistic adoration.
Fellow parishioners This is a predominantly English-speaking community (with a significant number of Spanish speakers) located in the Northern California wine country.
Parking Ample parking around the church.
Additional observations St. Joan of Arc is a parish of the Diocese of Santa Rosa. It also overseas Holy Family Mission in Rutherford, which has Mass on Sundays at 8 a.m.
TLMs are not supposed to be celebrated in parochial churches and they are not supposed to be advertised nor promoted as part of a community’s regular worship schedule. If you want Catholics to obey the rules about contraception and divorce and remarriage, then you need to obey the rules about liturgy.
This comment nails what I’ve thought about trads. They are the new cafeteria catholics.
There is a difference between defying the teachings of Christ and His Church from the beginning (divorce and remarriage, contraception, abortion, etc.) and disagreeing with a motu proprio (Latin for “on his own impulse,” issued by one 21st century bishop, the current bishop of Rome). I’m not saying all “trads” are right, but your analogy is off significantly.
And the ridiculous notion that mortal sin will stop if you print your bulletin correctly.
Why won’t you call Pope Francis the pope? Why do you refer to him only as a bishop? Are you one of those Francis deniers? Lots of trads deny that Francis is the Pope, which is one reason why Pope Francis saw that TLM trad communities are harmful to church unity.
Do you refer to the Pope as “the Vicar of Christ”? Is it a good idea to tell others what to say? Or is it effective to paint details in a portrait with broad strokes of a brush?
Pope Francis often refers to himself as “The Bishop of Rome” and prefers that title to others he has at his disposal.
Sure. Pope. Means, essentially, father. Pope Francis is the Pope, the bishop of Rome.
” Lots of trads deny that Francis is the Pope,” you claim. I know several people who regularly attend the TLM, some young and some older, and not one of them does.
Who do you spend your time with or what do you read?
Obviously, the priests of the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter and Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest do not deny Pope Francis.
I’m not a “trad,” but I am sympathetic to those who love the TLM and remain in the Church.
The bishop is responsible for Liturgies in his diocese (not you, rules). Priests promise obedience to their bishops. If Bishop Vasa is doing something wrong, the Pope is welcome to inform him of that, as are you. And, this was started before the centralized, unilateral, micro-managing Vatican issued Traditionis custodes. Maybe Bishop Vasa followed the urging of Pope Francis to spend time with his flock. And, the flock are blessed by a parish that has offered Mass in both Forms, as well as in Spanish.
Rules are you sure Bishop Vasa hasn’t allowed the extraordinary form to continue in this parish, as it is his right to do?
a bishop has the authority to permit the TLM as a concession — an exception — if he determines it is needed for the spiritual benefit of the faithful who don’t yet realize that they should be celebrating the novus ordo Mass instead of the TLM. but that exception is not to be misused to promote or prolong the TLM’s existence in his diocese. the TLM is supposed to be phased out. but those TLMs permitted by way of exception are not supposed to be celebrated in normal parish churches without Rome’s permission, and the TLM is not allowed to be publicized along with the novus ordo Masses for the parish.
anyway, the TLM will die out on its own because no new permission is being granted for priests to celebrate the TLM. so when the current TLM priests die, that’s the end of it.
“In the Feb. 21 publication, the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP) wrote that Pope Francis had met with two members of the society of apostolic life about a week before he promulgated the decree.
‘In the course of the audience, the pope made it clear that institutes such as the Fraternity of St. Peter are not affected by the general provisions of the motu proprio Traditionis custodes, since the use of the ancient liturgical books was at the origin of their existence and is provided for in their constitutions,’ it said.”
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/250442/traditionalist-communities-cautiously-optimistic-after-fssp-news
Ah, but here’s the rub: no bishop has to allow the FSSP to celebrate public Masses in his diocese.
Father’s Masses at St. Joan of Arc are beautifully celebrated and his homilies very helpful. I live in another county and I appreciate very much the availability of all the Masses in the Napa Valley.
On the website they have an announcement of the death of a deacon saying he “returned to His Heavenly home’.
This is a Catholic Church?
Have you not been to a Catholic funeral lately? Everyone goes to heaven immediately upon death. Funerals just celebrate that and celebrate the person’s life now. Oh, that and you get to hear On Eagles Wings sung.
We better pray for him then.
Deacon Charles “Chuck” Anthony Cancilla III
Eternal Rest grant unto him, O Lord and let perpetual light shine upon him. May he rest in peace.
It wasn’t just the going immediately to Heaven thing. It was also the “returned.”
“There is no one lonelier than a dead priest (or deacon).”
I am a parishioner at this parish. Many of the negative comments here do not match my experience. I’m grateful to be a part of this faithful Roman Catholic Parish with a solid and faithful pastor. We’re not perfect, but we’re fighting the good fight. Your charitable prayers are welcome. Thank you!
Wow, this is a depressing thread of petty banter.
Welcome to the conservative Catholic internet.
It’s the liberal readers here who lose it every time the TLM is mentioned, like it’s the new “unspeakable sin.” You’re welcome,
It’s clear from Catholic infighting that there is a civil war going on in the church. Face it: some who identify as Catholic aren’t truly Catholic. That definitely applies to those who want the church to change its sexual doctrines; it also applies to those who reject Vatican II and the reformed Mass. So it’s a strange civil war in which there are three factions vying for control: the hardcore trads, the doctrinal progressives, and the faithful moderates. The hardcore trads are irrelevant because of their small numbers; they will eventually schism or just join up with SSPX when they realize the church isn’t going to go back in time. The real war in the church is between the doctrinal progressives and the faithful moderates. The progressives get a lot of media attention and control some important church offices, but as we’re seeing in society, wherever sexual permissiveness becomes rampant that society self-destructs. So if the progressives win in the church, the church will self-destruct. The real future of the church is with the faithful moderates.
“Let your moderation be known to all men”. Faithfully moderate here.
“The real future of the church is with the faithful moderates.” ba ha ha ha ha ha the same crowd that has let the crisis go on unabated.. If the progressives win the Church will split, they will just be the heretics they always have been and us trads are more relevant that you know.. we will hold fast as we always have. The so called moderates ie. lukewarm Christ will spit from his mouth
People bickering on the Internet does not make a civil war.
No, but it heightens it. America is not divided because of the internet, but the internet exacerbates those divisions. The church is not divided because of the internet, but the internet exacerbates those divisions. Trads would hardly be known if it weren’t for the internet, and the internet allows them to wield more influence than their small numbers and isolated communities warrant. The internet is definitely helping progressives spread their cause.
The Internet definitely can effect people’s view of things but I don’t think that many Catholics are even interested in this kind of stuff. Most just go to Mass, put in their hour and go on with their lives.
The real future of the One Holy Catholic Church is with the faithful. Period.
And the true Catholic faithful are moderates between the erroneous extremes of progressivism and traditionalism.
The faithful are the faithful. Faithful Catholics are traditional. You are confused by traditionalists who are not faithful and progressives who are not faithful.
There are no such things as moderates. Either you accept the teachings of the Church or you don’t.