Name of Church Immaculate Heart of Mary Oratory
Address 3 temporary locations as they search for a permanent church home: Canyon Heights Academy Chapel, 775 Waldo Road, Campbell, CA 95008 (for Sunday Mass); Cambrian Park Plaza, 14418 Union Avenue, San Jose, CA 95124 (for daily Mass); The Home Church, 1799 S. Winchester Blvd., Campbell, CA 95008 (for catechism classes)
Phone number (408) 781-9497
Website http://www.institute-christ-king.org/sanjose-home
Mass times The oratory is dedicated to the celebration of the traditional Latin Mass. Sundays, 8 a.m., 9:30 a.m. (low mass), 11:15 a.m. (high Mass). Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday, 9 a.m. Wednesday, noon. Friday, 6 p.m.
Confessions Daily before Mass.
Names of priests The oratory is staffed by the Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest. Reverend Canon Raphael Ueda, rector. Reverend Canon Benjamin Norman, clergy in residence. The Institute was founded in 1990 and celebrates Mass in the extraordinary form. Its priests are formed in the traditional way. It has 121 priests who serve in Africa, Europe and the U.S. Besides priests, they also have a community of brothers and a community of nuns.
School No, but Catechism classes are held the second Saturday of the month at 11 a.m.
Special activities and groups Devotions following Mass include Wednesday devotion to St. Joseph, First Friday Stations of the Cross, and 13th to the 21st of each month a novena to the Immaculate Heart of Mary; The Guadalupe Hope Society.
Additional observations The Immaculate Heart of Mary Oratory was erected by Bishop-Emeritus Patrick McGrath as the center for the Latin Mass in the Diocese of San Jose. As of the beginning of 2022, the Oratory is currently looking for a new location; check the addresses on the website before visiting to verify locations of the Mass.
Why not use Archbishop Mitty High School’s tiny chapel?
I thought it was repurposed into a social justice/yoga/mindfulness center?
When I was a student I once walked in the chapel to find a couple Muslims bowing toward Mecca and praying.
Many years ago, I actual saw two Muslim women praying facing east one night on the grounds of Our Lady of Peace Church, San Santa Clara, California, as I drove out the western end of the back parking lot. I drove around the block and into the northern entrance of the lot to make sure I had seen what I thought I had seen. Two women dressed from head to foot in black were prostrating on the ground, then getting up and repeating. They were not the nuns there nor Traditionalists who pray inside. The church was open 24/7.
Anne TE, the Muslims do like Jesus and His Mother, Mary– they are in the Qur’an (that is the spelling I was told to use, by the Muslims) — with goofed-up religious stories, unfortunately! Perhaps that is why the Muslim women were doing their prayers near the Shrine of Our Lady of Peace. LOVE that Shrine!
I was assuming, though, that you were jesting to be funny, but it does happen in some places.
Thoughts and prayers to the devotees of the TLM. With the promulgation of the motu propio Tradiciones Custodes, the extraordinary form of the Holy Mass will soon be nearly extinct.
Fred, thank you for your thoughts and prayers, but the TLM will never be extinct. I should not have given you a thumbs down but just left the thumbs blank as they were, though.
God bless
It was Vatican II’s intent and explicit decree that the then existing liturgy, which we know as the TLM, be reformed. That means changed and replaced. The post-Vatican II church has no business celebrating the pre-Vatican II Mass.
If you celebrate the TLM, you are opposing Vatican II.
Enough with the old Mass already. It’s done. We had Vatican II. That’s it. Over.
enough– No. You are tragically misinformed. Read Vatican II’s “Sacrosanctum Concilium.” Also, try reading the beautiful works of Dietrich and Alice von Hildebrand.
Dietrich and Alice von Hildebrand were very great 20th century Catholic teachers and authors. Pope Pius XII called Dietrich von Hildebrand the “20th century Doctor of the Church.”
Enough, that’s not what the Pope, the local Bishop (in this case Bishop Cantu) or Vatican II said. The Pope met with leaders of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter and they, and similar groups, were given permission to carry on. If you know otherwise, please share where Vatican II, a Pope or a bishop said what you’re asserting.
I don’t celebrate the Extraordinary Form of the Mass. I’m simply trying to clarify that your statement is not accurate.
And, I still wonder why some so strenuously oppose the TLM. Most who attend, and I know several, are not hair-on-fire fringe lunatics. They’re simply devout Catholics and many are young. They are edified by and deeply value and appreciate a historic, reverent Mass. Is it opposed, maybe even feared, because of its “success” in attracting people to Mass?
“I still wonder why some strenuously oppose the TLM.” The better question to ask is “why some folks like the beloved FSSP and the beloved Institute of Christ the King and the other ex-Ecclesia Dei communities, still strenuously oppose the Missal of St. Pope Paul VI.” They refuse to offer the Ordinary Form as a rule. By that policy they send a negative message to the Catholics who go to their apostolates and chapels about Vatican II and the Ordinary Form. It is not enough for them to say “well it’s not our charism to offer the reformed liturgy.” Dig deeper and you find divisiveness.
jon, you should read the history of the FSSP and ICKSP. Both groups were formed expressly for the purpose of saying the Latin Tridentine Mass only, under Pope St. John Paul II, who totally agreed to it. And Pope Francis recently gave his total support to these two groups. Nothing is changed. They are not under his recent motu proprio, Traditionis Custodes. If you don’t like it, fine. Go to another Mass. Do you think that all priests who only say the Mass of Pope St. Paul VI, should all be additionally required to say the old Latin Tridentine Mass? Just go to the Mass you prefer– and stop criticizing– the FSSP and ICKSP are both excellent.
Do the constitutions of the beloved FSSP, the beloved Institute of Christ the King, and the other ex-Ecclesia Dei communities explicitly state that they are to offer the TLM at the exclusion of the Missal of St. Pope Paul VI? No. In fact, their constitutions state that they adhere to Vatican II and they recognize the legitimacy of the Missal of Pope Paul VI. These folks have been seen concelebrating at Chrism Masses, people. However, they shun the Ordinary Form as a rule. Therefore, there is nothing in their constitutions prohibiting their celebration of the Ordinary Form. Pope Francis, God bless him, is trying to make honest men of these people. If they say they adhere to Vatican II, then offer the Ordinary Form. If they refuse, then aren’t they really separating themselves from the Church. If so, then they should go the way of the beloved SSPX. Lastly, no, they’re not “excellent.” They’re divisive.
BTW, to the question of “Do you think that all priests who only say the Mass of Pope St. Paul VI, should all be additionally required to say the old Latin Tridentine Mass” proves nothing and is in fact moot. Priests who offer the Missal of Pope Paul VI are offering what is the “lex orandi”–the unique expression of prayer–in the Latin-Rite Church. That is sufficient enough, as it is what the Church has provided. However, the priests of the beloved Institute of Christ the King and of the beloved FSSP are priests of the Latin-Rite. Therefore, logically and naturally these priests of the FSSP and the ICRSS are called to offer what is the normative/ordinary form of prayer in the Latin-Rite Catholic Church. Case in point: the Dominicans and Franciscans have their own “liturgical use” (variation) of the Latin-Rite (ie, the Dominican and Franciscan “rites”). Nonetheless, all Dominicans and Franciscans know how to, and indeed offer, the Ordinary Form. What makes the priests of the beloved FSSP and Institute of Christ the King any different? Their divisiveness, I suppose.
Correction: I meant to write “Carmelite”, not “Franciscan.” Carry on.
Therefore, Pope Francis is on-the-mark for pointing out in Traditionis custodes (TC) that the beautiful TLM is being cynically used to divide the Church, hence the need to restrict its use, because division is deadly for the Church, people; any kind of division needs to be addressed aggressively as the deadly growth that it is. But because TC mainly addressed diocesan priests (who I don’t think were necessarily the acutely divisive ones because those diocesan clergy who offer the TLM also offer the Ordinary Form alongside it), I do opine that a forthcoming document may indeed be on the works addressing, this time, people like the beloved Institute, the beloved FSSP, and the other ex-Ecclesia Dei (the beloved ex-ED) communities. Indeed, the Pope acknowledged the beloved FSSP’s and the beloved ex-ED’s continued use of the TLM. Honestly folks, there was nothing new there; the Pope merely stated the obvious; notice however that in fact the Pope doubled-down that the TLM can only be offered in their chapels and churches, restricting where they can use it. But going back to my point, if you are looking for where the real nexus of divisiveness is people, look to these beloved ex-ED’s.
jon, you are not the Pope, and cannot speak for him. The group, the Immaculate Heart of Mary Oratory, in San Jose, deserves respect. They are a wonderful Catholic group.
You need to respect the Holy Father, Pope Francis. You need to respect all bishops and priests, not only those whom you like. Otherwise, you truly belong in a different planet.
BTW, why is the beloved Institute not at Five Wounds Church anymore? Isn’t that the elephant in the room here? Wasn’t there a fracas there involving them a few years back? Is this a manifestation of some sort of divisiveness on their part?
jon, you need to practice what Pope Francis preaches– Christian love and kindness for all, including those you disagree with.
Oh I practice everything that Pope Francis preaches. No issues there. However, the real issue is: when Pope Francis wrote that the Church “return in due time to the Roman Rite promulgated by Saints Paul VI and John Paul II,” do people like “Practice” here respect and love this decision of the Pope’s? Do they honor this decision, promote it, and seek to understand in it the wisdom and the deep love that Francis has for the unity of the Church? That’s the real issue here people; the issue is not my alleged “unkindness” or “rudeness” which is pure bunk. Bunk.
It does not matter which form of the Mass you attend. Christisn charity, kibdness, empathy, humility, and respect for others, in Christ– including for those you disagree with– is the pathway to Heaven. You are not the Pope. A pompous “Napoleon ego” is a huge obstacle to Heaven.
“It does not matter which form of the Mass you attend”?? Why don’t you tell that to the people and priests of the Oratory of the Immaculate Heart of Mary in San Jose.
jon, you need respect for the Immaculate Heart of Mary Oratory, the FSSP and the ICKSP. They have a beautiful, holy Mass, and are very good followers of Christ. And they are all fully Vatican-approved. Why don’t you end your senseless, ignorant, and hateful criticisms? These good Catholics are all your brothers and sisters in Christ. Christ gave us the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass for only one purpose– to help our souls get to Heaven.
Well, in fact, the Oratory in San Jose deserves so much respect that the people there ought to learn this plain truth: firstly, that Pope Francis desires the unity of the Church which is why he wrote “Traditionis custodes”; and secondly that by refusing to offer the Missal of Pope Paul VI, the priests of the beloved FSSP and ICRSS are in fact promoting division in the Church (as stated earlier, the Dominicans and Carmelites have their own “variation” of the Roman Rite, yet they nonetheless can and do offer the Ordinary Form of the Roman Rite on a regular basis).
Enough is correct. None of the Fathers at Vatican II envisioned the TLM continuing to be celebrated after the liturgical reforms were completed. The current situation in which the Novus Ordo and the unreformed Mass are both celebrated is an anomaly. Pope Francis has said that that the liturgical reform is irreversible, and he’s taught and legislated that the Church is to move toward unity in celebrating the post Vatican II rites.
Yes, the TLM is currently allowed as an exception — a concession, as the Holy See has put it — but the TLM’s days are numbered, and I think that’s a good thing.
None of the Fathers. You are incorrect. Read Sacrosanctum Concilium carefully.
I’ve read it. It says the liturgy is to be reformed.
read it– Sounds like you need to read it again.
OMG, read the first paragraph: “The Council therefore sees particularly cogent reasons for undertaking the reform and promotion of the liturgy.”
Reform. It means to change something in order to improve it. The Council decreed that the liturgy should be improved by changing it.
Do any of you read or comprehend?
None of the Fathers, first of all calling them fathers is weird. They are bishops.
Saying that NONE of them envisioned the TLM contiuing is wrong.
I would say that most would have liked changes to the Mass.
No one at Vatican II envisioned what happened after it.
Even those who wanted reform were amazed at how quickly everything changed and how the change caused a fissure in the Church through which the smoke of Satan arose. (No it is not child sexual abuse. That was going on before VII.)
Some loved it. Some hated it. Some feared it. Some exploited it.
Right after Vatican II, a severe priest shortage was predicted, worldwide. And more than 200,000 priests, including some bishops, resigned. The New Mass was quite a shock, disliked by many. Many laymen also left the Catholic Church. The Pope is quite modernistic in all things. He prefers the New Mass. That is his privilege. But he should not grant his acceptance to clergy and nuns who promote gay sex and gay “marriage,” nor to politicians who publicly promote abortion, as well as immoral LGBT agendas– like Biden and Pelosi. That is extremely wrong.
The number is not correct, although it may be 100,000 in the ten years after V2.
Most laymen leave the Church because they do not agree with the Church’s teaching so I do not think you can blame that on V2.
No-fault divorce, sexual revolution, a general distrust of organized religion, popularization of Eastern religions, generation gap, a view of the Church as hypocritical, it refusal to condemn the Vietnam War, segregation and a feeling that the Church did not do a good job presenting God as a loving, merciful Father (rather than always watching to catch you being bad.) all had a lot to do with that.
I think you need to “get out of your own head” and the best way to do that is to read the Bible. Read the Catechism. Read the papal documents from Pope Francis. If you come across a statement that you don’t understand and that the footnotes or references don’t clarify, then google it and see what you can learn.
God does not expect you to obey the Pope from the 16th century. He expects you to obey the Pope he gives you in your time. Pope Francis has done nothing to promote gay sex or gay marriage. Meeting with pro-choice politicians, I think, is problematic for us Americans but it is because we are so shallow and judgmental.
Make sure you are telling the truth not distorting the truth to make someone look worse than they are. Make sure you know the whole of the Catholic Faith, not just a tiny bit of it.
Reading the saints and the old documents is great, but you need to stay current as best you can. If you are out doing works of mercy, or providing for your family that comes first, of course.
Yes, 200,000 priests as well as a few bishops left the Catholic Church, worldwide, right after Vatican II ended (between the years of about 1965-1970). And we were all warned of an imminent priest shortage! Thousands of nuns also left, at that time– and thousands more left their vocations, in the 1970s. It was a great shock!
Actually, a great many years have passed, since the period right after the Council ended. My memory nay not be exactly correct, of hearing that something like 200,000 priests resigned, worldwide, at that time. I recall Abp. Sheen also speaking of being concerned over the loss of great numbers of priests, at that time, and trying to help the situation. And we were all warned of an imminent priest shortage.
https://www.vatican.va/content/paul-vi/en/apost_constitutions/documents/hf_p-vi_apc_19690403_missale-romanum.html
I know some who attend Mass at this Oratory. (Admittedly, I’ve never attended.) Of those I know and have met, I know of none who deny the validity of the Novus Ordo Mass. I’ve found them to be joyful and not divisive. (Of course, any church of any rite or form can have some who are cranky, angry, divisive and even in error. Yet, we don’t shut them down.) I’m for people attending any Catholic Mass or Divine Liturgy of any rite or form in union with the Catholic Church and approved by the Catholic Church. Maybe, especially during this Lent, we should focus more on the sacrifice of Christ at the Mass, the source and summit of our worship and Faith.
Cardinal Marx just announced that he celebrated a Mass for “20 years of Queer worship and pastoral care.” Cdl. Marx, Bishop Batzing, many of the German nishops, and other prelates who promote homosexual sex and gay “marriage,” are the ones truly causing a dangerous “divisiveness” in the Church, potentially leading to a schism. They do not accept Christ’s teachings on Christian marriage and sexuality, and want to change the Catechism.
In my post of March 14 at 11:11am, I misspelled the word “bishops,” in my second sentence.
I was very, very shocked to read that Cdl. Marx said he celebrated a Mass for “20 years of Queer worship and pastoral care”– those were his words. That is certainly not the holy work for Christ, that he was ordained to do.
Why? You think gays are beneath worshiping Christ and receiving pastoral care?
Pro-People Bishops– In the Catholic faith, there is no such thing as “Queer worship.” You ought to know that!
They don’t know what it means.
According to the article, he is shocked by you.
dfg and me– Take a look at EWTN’s “National Catholic Register” article on Cardinal Marx, on Feb. 14th. yesterday. It is the very first article, and it is entitled: “Cardinal Marx Celebrates Mass Marking ’20 Years of Queer Worship And Pastoral Care.’
Sorry– the article was printed in the March (not Feb.!) 14th edition of the “National Catholic Register,” now owned by EWTN.
You are bearing false witness. Cardinal Marx has said:
“I said in the synod that Paul VI had a great vision in ‘Humanae Vitae.’ The relationship between a man and a woman is very important. The sexual relationship in a faithful relationship is founded on the connection of procreation, giving love, sexuality and openness to life. Paul VI believed that this connection would be destroyed. He was right; see all the questions of reproductive medicine and so on. We cannot exclude this great model of sexuality, and say, ‘We have diversity,’ or ‘Everybody has the right to….’ The great meaning of sexuality is the relationship between a man and a woman and the openness to give life. I have also previously mentioned the question of accompanying people, to see what people are doing in their lives and in their personal situation.”
You are not keeping up with the Catholic news at all! Cardinal Marx, Bishop Batzing, and many of the German bishops, have been actively promoting homosexuality, gay unions and gay marriages, have been conducting unauthorized, sinful ceremonies of blessings of gay unions and gay marriages in their churches– though this has been condemned by the Vatican– and have repeatedly stated publicly their desire to change the Catechism on Catholic marriage and sexuality.
God will forgive your sins if you repent.
God forgives every sinner who repents.
Sorry, the German Bishops have no intention of repenting of sin. They want to change the Catechism on marriage and sexuality, stating that it is outdated, and should include acceptance of gay sex unions and gay marriage.
Not if bohemond has his way
The truth plainly spoken is an act of mercy, people. If you can’t handle the particular truth I’ve written in this thread that these ex-Ecclesia Dei communities are divisive because of their refusal to offer the Missal of Pope Paul VI, then the problem is in you. The truth may sting; learn that.
jon’s constant disquisitions about respecting all bishops and priests, whether we “people” like them or not, is puerile bombast. The Church lost so much respect from life-long Catholics because of the horrific sex abuses committed by consecrated men, and subsequently covered up by bishops. We lost respect for them because of the bureaucratic answers to these crimes by holy men who live cosseted lives, courtesy of their worshipful congregations. Did not Pope Francis admonish his priests about their clericalism and their raw ambitions? Not all priests and bishops are good men, and many are not even holy, as we have so bitterly learned. We thinking people no longer look upon the clergy with the dewy eyes of First Communicants. We have become more discerning, perhaps even more critical, of the priests who stand before us at the altar. We have been put into this position by the errors of the Church itself and those who lead it.
Here we go again with the “horrific sex abuse scandals” as the excuse for exempting oneself from the traditional Catholic practice of respecting and obeying our popes and bishops. Whatever weaknesses and sins of the clergy, it is not an excuse to disobey their teachings such as “Traditionis custodes.” People, the sex abuse scandals have been used by the left and right for all sorts of reasons, principally to marginalize the Church itself, and the clergy in particular. So, go ahead “Axiom,” use the weakness and sins of certain priests and bishops as a pathetic weapon to marginalize the clergy itself.
jon – thou doth protest too much.
Nope, it is you who protest too much.
was that Cardinal Karl Marx you were referring to?
or Groucho?
Please note that there is a NEW location for Immaculate Heart of Mary Oratory is at 1101 S. Winchester Boulevard
San José, CA 95128, building C I believe.