The following comes from an Aug. 26 posting on AL.com. Phil Robertson’s interview with GQ magazine on gay sex caused him to be suspended from the Duck Dynasty reality TV show by the A&E Network on Dec. 18
A video with Duck Dynasty star Phil Robertson delivering a pro-life speech where he tells a crowd, “you have the God-given right to life, for crying out loud!” is going viral.
While the video was posted on YouTube in January, it has recently begun to gather views. It had a little more than half a million views Monday morning.
Robertson said in the speech delivered to a crowd in Pennsylvania, “Listen, from the time you started inside your mother’s womb — Thomas Jefferson had it right — you have the God-given right to life,” Robertson said. “You’re this long (pointing to his finger). You’re a week old inside your mother. They suck you out of there when you’re about like that. You wouldn’t be here tonight!”
To read the original blog, click here
To watch Robertson defend the unborn’s right to life, click here.
Would like to wish Cal Catholic Daily readers, my co-religionists, a Holy Christmas.
Cheers,
Gratias
Since I seldom watch television, I had no idea what Duck Dynasty was, even though I had seen items carrying that name in Walmart. But now,because of what Phil said, I along with countless others know more about that program. Why is it, that other radio hosts and media people can curse the Holy Father, mock the Catholic Church, blaspheme God, ridicule Republicans and traditionalists, use vulgar and obscene language, and nothing happens to them. But as soon as a man just quotes what is in the Bible, and what has been traditional Judeo-Christian morality, then all hell has been released. What most Americans do not realize, because they are too concerned with sports, commercialism, and feasting, is that all things Christian, and especially Catholic are being attacked. While the television/cable company that airs the show can do what they want in regards to who is fired, we the people should boycott companies that are waging war against common decency and traditional values. Thank goodness that Phil had the courage to say what is right, even though it it not politically correct. Jesus Christ was NEVER politically correct, but spoke the truth. Even though I will probably never watch this program, I will pray that God will bless Phil, and that more Americans will stand up for what IS right. The one sad point is that it takes an Evangelical Christian to say what is correct. Where are the voices of Catholics,, as well as the hierarchy of the Church? They are either too dumb or to occupied to realize what is happening to our society. May God have mercy on them!
Fr, Karl I watch Duck Dynasty and it is a a good family show, unlike most trash shows they have now a days. They even end their program with a family dinner and family prayer. I support Phil’s style of conveying, may not be always the proper language but it is still telling what a man for the common good and common decency is conveying. Yes biblical and like minded with Catholicism. He is right on pro-life and on the sin of sodomy…right on!
We all have our gifts and ways to share the truth…He certainly has his and it is refreshing comparing to all the politically correct trash we have to hear on the daily basis, this is a welcomed one! This man has the right to feel freely how he feels, he is harmless and is very compassionate to the human soul, so the “gay” are pissed because they want to take control of how people reason freely, they want to be worshiped like a god, they may deny this but their actions and great evil actions of anger against those with morals, shows this.
But this situation with Phil has opened up the consciences of men, it has come out to greet them and show them that there is another way…..a better way and hopefully it will lead many more to Christ and away from the man deities of this world!
Abeca and Fr. Karl,
Have you examined the list of indoctrinators for the sodomite life style in the list of speakers for the 2014 REC?
In the past, many have complained to us about the apparent gay fest the REC has become, and this year is probably worse.
I will be discussing this on Michael Voris’s Mic’d up on February 5 at 5:00 PM PST please watch and learn why we MUST stand up to this heretic ridden conference.
A Bishop’s priest assistant recently replied to a letter I sent to that bishop warning him of the heresies his sheep will be submitted to. The priest apparently, according to his reply to me, believes that it is ok to have heretics teach the gullible as long as you have some good speakers, THAT IS HERESY!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika!
Viva Cristo Rey!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
No Mr Fisher I am not aware..thank you for letting us know…God bless you and for letting us know to watch more about it. God bless you.
Fans no longer give a quack about “Duck Dynasty.”
TV Line reports that 8.5 million people tuned in for the fifth season premiere of “Duck Dynasty” on Wednesday (Jan. 15), down from 12 million viewers who watched the fourth season premiere.
In the highly sought after age demographic of 18-49, only 4.2 million tuned in.
When Phil Robertson insulted black people and gay people back in December, creating a huge uproar in the media, fans passionately defended the patriarch, but the ratings haven’t held up.
Could this be the beginning of the end for “Duck Dynasty?” YES!
Shinto its a total lie….actually my whole family just tuned in. Even friends who have never heard about them before are now watching the show even more. Just a few days ago….I saw a group of people wearing their clothing gear…which I never saw before. So stop with your dumb stuff, if you don’t get Mr, Robertson, then that is your problem. He is fine!
Also my sister in law told me that her brother, who is a homosexual, watches the show…he especially likes SI…….
so SHINTO take your prejudices and take them where the sun don’t shine….your are getting me tired of your hatred of people who hold convictions….let it go now……
Hey, Phil, please take the opportunity to join the 21 first century. Your self proclaimed bigotry against African Americans and Gays of this Country has been on a new path for sometime. It”s time you found out about it. A new CNN poll released Tuesday found that 88% of American Catholics view Pope Francis favorably. Additionally, nearly 75% of Americans in general think he’s doing a good job. It’s been quite a year for the new Pope. Named Time’s Person Of The Year, he’s been cited for his relatively progressive views on homosexuality, his criticisms of capitalism and his advocacy for the poor. The iconic LGBT magazine The Advocate named Pope Francis their person of the year after comments he made this summer about gay priests. “If someone is gay and seeks the Lord with good will, who am I to judge?”, he told a reporter in July. While his comments are hardly an endorsement of same-sex marriage, they mark a major shift from the church’s legacy on homosexuality.
This is embarrassing…sorry Phil for that stupid comment from a false Catholic misrepresenting our Pope…. We do have many trolls here and they are trolls for a reason….God have mercy on their soul. Many of them want to destroy the church…
Phil God bless you and your family…Merry Christmas and keep up the good fight in Christ!
So far just about all the uproar over Robertson’s comments has focused on his anti-gay remarks. But in the interview, he also proved himself a racist, saying that black people were perfectly content in the Deep South during segregation. “They were happy and singing,” claimed Robertson. “I never, with my own eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person,” Robertson declared. (On a related note, it’s doubtful he ever saw, with his own eyes, Hitler kill any Jews—so that probably never happened either.) And to top off his trifecta of ignorance, Robertson went after some other world religions, ranting against “Islamists” and claiming that Shintoism leads directly to “murder.”
D.O.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Shintoism did in fact lead to mass murder. Have you ever heard of World War II? Oh, depending on your age, perhaps they did not teach you about that little military action in your politically correct schools!
Are you totally blind to the murders CURRENTLY BEING committed by Islamist all over the World?
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika!
Viva Cristo Rey!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
D.O. Thanks for reminding the readers of CCD about the totality of Phil’s ridiculous remarks. And it is because the totality of his remarks are so completely ridiculous that I’m personally not terribly offended by his anti-gay remarks. He obviously has little touch with reality or rational thought, and he doesn’t exactly paint homophobes in a very good light. Yet we have people like Abeca Christian and Sarah Palin literally defending him, showing us that homophobia often has a welcome home in the hearts of racists, xenophobes, supremacists of one ilk or another, reactionary anti-historical conservatives, and such. The world isn’t embarrassed because of the reaction to Phil, it is embarrassed that there are Phils and Phil defenders in this world.
D. O., Your trifecta of selective anger towards Mother Angelica, the Holy See and Phil Robertson is transparent here too. There is a very charitable and wiser priest with the initials D.O. who has informed us and warned us about this network.
Father Darius Oko prepared a report about the scourge of homosexual lobbying tactics and your Dec. 26th post is certainly one of them. The homosexual activists will be ranting the absolute loudest when they witness what Islamists terrorists want to do to parading homosexuals and faithful Christians. The homosexual network will actually be ranting the loudest that Phil Robertson should have ranted even louder to really get their attention when the large swords suddenly appear. They will yell, “Phil Robertson, Why didn’t you render us aid before it came to this??” No good deed goes unpunished.
When you hear someone say “that certainly scared the hell out of me”, it is not a bad thing. It is actually a good thing if someone repents. No one should deliberately choose to go to hell but tragically many do and the most prevalent reason is sins of the flesh. May God bless Phil Robertson for his wonderful rantings that pricked the guilty consciences of many who are presently choosing the road to hell. Thank God for the many more good consciences that spoke up to defend him. Phil’s family remained united as ONE in their intentions to their Patriarch. How many in our own Catholic family completely jumped ship and criticized Humanae Vitae and did not remain united as one with the Pope? The spiraling downfall is as predicted but as Sacred Scripture reminds us D.O. that God even used ol’ Duck Dynasty Phil Robertson to prick open your conscience and many more and it obviously worked.
Douay-Rheims – 1 Corinthians 1:27
But the foolish things of the world hath God chosen, that he may confound the wise; and the weak things of the world hath God chosen, that he may confound the strong.
That is your opinion YFC….it is not ridiculous, just because Mr. Phil is not an eloquently speaker to your liking, does not make his comments untrue nor ridiculous, a smart person would know this.
KMF, Remember some of the Catholic inquisitions? The world wide priest child abuse scandal and hierarchy coverup over the last 60+ years is still in progress. Sorry to burst your bubble. Phil is a rich old bigot and he is going to make tons of money because of it.
Would you describe yourself as a ‘Cathophobe’ just because you do not agree with the Catholic Church’s teaching on homosexual sex, YFC?
If not, could you explain why it seems that those in favor of homosexual sex are so intent on misrepresenting those who do not agree with them as being afraid?
You got into such a heated exchange with Tracy over the word ‘queer,’ I cannot see you opting to promote the word ‘homophobe’ (that is one who is AFRAID of homosexuals) with such inaccuracy and yet you seem to do it in your post above.
The sodomy people could not make the first charge that they made against Phil Robertson stick, so now they are trying to find another charge to make against him that will stick. The same people who are able to find out what Phil Robertson said with regard to homosexuals are also able to find out what he really said about blacks. Then they will know that you just can’t believe what some people say.
hey I must be famous….YFC put me in the same sentence as Sarah Palin….pretty neat. LOL
Dear Anne Malley: I think you will have a hard time finding a post of mine in which I dissent from the Catholic Church’s teaching on homosexual sex. So please do not misrepresent my posts.
Secondly, Anne Malley, there are many many people on this website who have made wild claims that I seek nothing more than to destroy the Catholic Church because of things I have written here. While that is patently false, they in essence call me a catholic phobe. So what is your point?
Why, Anne Malley and others here on CCD, do you defend a man who is guilty of calumny and utter disregard for the Church’s teaching on how gay people ought to be treated? Morevover, his utter disregard for the horrible way that African Americans have been treated in this country? If you are so opposed to sin in all its forms, then why are you standing up for this man?
I think the real reason you all want to stand up for him is that anyone who is an enemy of the gay is a friend of yours, regardless of what sins or heresies he may promote. It ultimately comes down to fearing the gays so much that every other aspect of a person can be ignored if they fear or hate the gays too.
Trust me, YFC, Anne Malley is not defending you.
God bless you, Ski Ven, for your wit and clear sight. Thank you!
As to you, YFC:
1) Hide behind the words of the law while negating the spirit. IOW: Promote the death of the supposed letter while negating the spirit which gives life. You know what I mean as you are far from stupid…but your Nancy Kerrigan skating moves circling ’round and ’round what you espouse while not naming names fools nobody. Not you, not God, not your ‘spouse,’ and not those poor souls who get your message to the detriment of their own souls. So shame on you. As I’ve said before, be the man that you are and answer the hard questions, Sir, instead of side stepping and skating and deceiving yourself. Let your yes be yes and your no be no.
That said, you are a Catholicphobe or perhaps you are really afraid to say what you really believe. To name it. In that sense, I’d say you’re the real homophobe as you’re afraid to commit yourself to what you persistently skate around. Your lack of courage in that regard earns no points in my book for your supposed cause. Not that you should be concerned with my book, but you asked.
2)The Truth is often perceived as ‘ugly’, YFC. That is why the truth of what homosexual sex means is perceived as ugly by you. Because Phil Robertson cut past all the nicey nice to just spit it out. YUCK. As to his experience with African Americans, he was relating his own experiences. Not the gospel. So stop trying to lump all everything together to push your own agenda. At least the man had the umph to actually answer a straight question unlike you.
3) As to being an enemy of the homosexual, look in the mirror, YFC. And stop being afraid of yourself and those who share your affliction. Stop hating yourself and them so much that you would embrace that which can eternally separate you from God. Help them. Stop being afraid of sin, too, and fight it manfully as you are called to do with the aid of God’s grace.
Shintoism does have some aspects that might even appeal to Phil Robertson. After all, Duck Dynasty is a show about a family that makes duck calls and other products for hunters—and Shintoism “has always made one of its highest priorities co-existence with nature,” according to the website of Jinja Honcho, the Association of Shinto Shrines. “It could even be said that Shinto could not exist apart from nature. In Shinto, we believe that both humans and nature are children of kami, and live together as members of the same family.”
What you have quoted and probably misquoted above about Shintoism has nothing to do with the FACT that it was Shinto Buddhist Japan that attacked Pearl Harbor, the Phillipines, etc. etc.
Why can’t you pseudo Catholics stick to a subject?
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika!
Viva Cristo Rey!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher, Founding Director
Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc.
Sarah Palin’s “friend who happens to be gay” (as though it were an accident) has somehow managed to find their way into the Duck Dynasty conversation. After Phil Robertson’s suspension from the show for his racist and homophobic comments in a GQ interview, Sarah Palin declared that his First Amendment rights were being violated. However, she later admitted to having never read the interview herself.
But while speaking with Sean Hannity on Fox News, Palin said her “gay friend” expressed shock at Robertson being suspended. The controversial politician claimed that “she emailed me to say she is outraged at A&E for the hypocrisy here,”
After declaring that she did not support marriage during her Vice Presidential campaign in 2008, Palin spoke about having a gay friend for decades. “I am not going to judge Americans and the decisions that they make in their adult personal relationships. One of my best friends for the last 30 years happens to be gay and I love her dearly,” said Palin. She’s not my gay friend, she is one of my best friends who happens to have made a choice that isn’t a choice that I have made. But I’m not going to judge people.”
Read more at https://issuehawk.com/robert-porter/2013/12/27/sarah-palins-gay-friend-emerges-in-duck-dynasty-debate.html#xCjmPUDPLl334LKj.99
Calm down, People’s Pope. His Holiness Pope Francis is the Pope, the Vicar of Christ, not Christ Himself. That said, Francis’ popularity is no cause for exultation, but rather concern as all of those who are now intrigued by him will have to reconcile the cult of personality with the reality of the Catholic Faith.
You may believe that the new path for homosexuals is on the way, but the way is still the same. Renouncing oneself, one’s sins, and putting on Christ. The Way, the Truth, and the Life. Even the Pope cannot change that.
Believe me, Ann Malley, I’ve had to deal with decades of BEnedict both as Pope and pope-in-waiting, so I know exactly what you are talking about when you say that the Pope is Vicar, not Christ himself.
Yes, YFC but you are someone who celebrates his sins as you still refuse to state that homosexual sex is a sin…
Good on ya, for realizing that Truth, YFC. Not sure why you eluded to having to ‘deal’ with Benedict, but whatever. I’m no Benedict groupie – as he was a man, subject to human failings just like any other, but tasked with a job that requires our loyalty and respect. Why? Because of Christ.
That’s why I pray for all our leaders to teach the Fullness of Truth which is Christ, not their personal style, flair, theology, likes, ideas, projects etc. That’s why those who extol Francis like he’s going to ‘save’ the Church drives me nuts.
…sorry, YFC, Benedict *is* a man. Referring to a previous Pope as still living is still rather new….
Few souls understand what God would accomplish in them if they were to abandon themselves unreservedly to Him and if they were to allow His grace to mold them accordingly. — St. Ignatius Loyola
Ann Malley, Think about this reality: As millions gathered to celebrate an innocent divine baby in a manger, some will ponder how this person, who mandated forcefully and clearly that children must be protected, has ended up with a Church hierarchy that claim to act in his name but have failed, and continue to fail, so many children.
Think about this, Calm down, Popes sin, Cardinals sin, Arch Bishops and Bishops sin, you sin and I sin. Their failure (sin) is not the failure of the Church which is the Bride of Christ that offers the means to overcome. It is choosing to sin that is the issue instead of following the movements of grace.
That said, the failures are continuous for all of us children because human reasoning and compromise will always fall short of the divine. One must have FAITH in Christ and His promise to protect and uphold.
That said, what precisely are you taking as the ‘mandate’ that children must be protected? For we are ALL God’s children, His little ones. And scandal of all variety will and does come into the world. Our Lord never said that would stop.
Ann. You say you weren’t a Benedict groupie. Were you a John Paul II groupie? I was! :-)
I’m a Jesus and Mary groupie, C&H. In ‘Lord of the Rings’ terms, despite being subject to the Steward of Gondor (whoever he may be.) I await the return of the King. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
I would imagine, being a caterer, you’re feeding many this season. God bless you for that!
Theologically and historically, there is no such thing as a Judeo-Christian Tradition existing as parallel covenants. Modern Judaism adds nothing to Christianity. This Judeo- Christian construction adds absolutely nothing to our culture or our values, for Christian civilization is founded on both Testaments and both are Testaments of Christianity, the latter fulfilling the Promise of the former.
Warren,
Thanks for that statement of truth. I also believe Catholics, be they lay, priests, or religious should call themselves Catholics, not just Christians, but Catholic Christians!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika!
Viva Cristo Rey!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Kenneth, there is no religion called Christian and there never has been such a religion. There is and always has been the Church, and various heresies proceeding from a rejection of some of the Church’s doctrines by men who still desire to retain the rest of her teaching and morals. When St. Peter appointed Ignatius Bishop of Antioch (A.D. 69) the Church was still called but the Church, as in “And he is the head of the body, the church” Colossians 1:18. Bishop Ignatius wrote a letter in Greek to the faithful, and in contradistinction to dissidents existing even at that early time, he addressed it to the Church Universal — the Katholikos Ecclesiam –the Catholic Church. So from then until now there exists but the Colossians 1:18 Body of Christ Church and separate non-Catholic religions.
Warren
Kenneth, How about just Catholic for the term “Roman Catholic” is not a proper name for the Catholic Church though one often feels constrained to use it to avoid ambiguity since the Episcopalians like to style themselves “Anglo-Catholics” and the Greek orthodox have at times been called “Greek Catholics”. Yet neither the Anglicans nor the Greeks can manage to call themselves simply “Catholics” lest they be mistaken for us who are recognized by all as Catholics without qualification. The Catholic Church is indeed the Roman Church or the Church whose visible head is the Pope in Rome, but the use of the name “Roman Catholic” is at best a condescension to others who would falsely claim the name “Catholic”.
Warren
good grief…now there is no such thing as a religion Christian?? Really? ….come on folks…well anyhoo I am a Catholic Christian and proud of it!
Acts 11:26 in the New Testament says that the followers of the Lord Jesus Christ were first called Christians at Antioch, so Catholics definitely are Christians.
SCHISMATICS CLAIMING TO BE HOLIER THAN THE CHURCH
CWN – December 23, 2013
“The leaders of the traditionalist Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) are in schism, and remain suspended from the sacraments, says the prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
“In an interview with the Italian daily Corriere della Sera, Archbishop Gerhard Müller said that although Pope Benedict XVI lifted the canonical excommunication of SSPX prelates, they remain suspended from the sacraments because ‘by their schism they have broken away from communion with the Church.’
“Archbishop Müller said that while talks with the SSPX have reach an impasse, the Vatican will not close the door to reconciliation. However, he said, a restoration of full communion would require the SSPX to accept the authority of the Church and of the Pope.”
And what does this have to do with the subject of the article?
Nothing he just hates the SSPX
“….accept the authority of the Church and of the Pope.” To what end, Michael, when the Holy Father himself has intimated that even he should not judge.
With all due respect, Archbishop Muller’s authoritative pronouncements regarding Traditionalists, while the rest of the faithful are told to go out and make a mess – and a mess it is – affirms nothing but contradiction.
Keeping the Faith means more than just holding to the belief that the Pope and the institutionalized Church can switch Her position at will. The Church, much like the good Father of a family, has the obligation and authority to protect and to pass down that which is Truth and wholesome.
In that sense, the SSPX very much recognizes the authority of the Church and the Pope. More so than those in supposed full communion who, while claiming obedience, rally openly for that which against Her. So, while you may not like the SSPX, at the very least they are HONEST.
Anne, with all due respect as you do write many good points at times, if one reads the words of the Holy Father Francis in their context and meaning, and not the twisted secular version, Pope Francis just said that he could not judge the sincerity of someone with the homosexual or lesbian orientations if they showed signs of repentance for any bad behavior and were trying to live a good life. He has, also, come out strongly against groups such as the LGBT who advocate for so-called same-sex marriages, and he has spoken and written against such “marriages” themselves. Please read all that he says, not just parts taken out of context as the secular press does.
Ann T, thank you for your concerned post. I appreciate it…. in addition to what you write on CCD. That said, I do read all that the Pope has to say, not just the twisted press versions. Sad to say, I am no novice with regard to how the world in general can and does spin things. That is another reason why I wince at the current Pontiff’s love of off-the-cuff speaking.
Even so, there is an obvious misapplication of condemnation if not in words then most assuredly in practice that goes on when the Vatican denounces traditionalists while at the same time allowing all manner of absolute nonsense to continue under the auspices of ‘full communion.’ ( And that was long before Francis. Long before the oft touted ‘mess’ comment. )
The reason for this disparity, I believe, is because those traditional groups that are decried have had the fortitude to be forthright in their issues thereby making themselves an easy target. The progressives, however, say yes, yes, we believe and then do whatever they will. Somewhat like the two brothers who were asked to work in the gospel. The one said, “Yes, Father, and then went on to play and do his own will.” The other said, “No, but then went forth and did the will of the Father.”
Now, I’m not saying I believe that the SSPX has said NO to that which is rightfully asked, but rather I would assert that when looking to the fruits, it would appear that they have indeed been doing the will of the Father by working the actual vineyard. Even if not in a regular situation with Rome. For the ‘situation’ in Rome, if one looks to the chaos and lack of unity even on CCD about the most basic issues, is anything but regular.
So again, to paraphrase Francis, I will not judge…. I cannot.
To be fair I should have addressed my last post at 10:49 am to others on the left too, who advocate for so-called same-sex marriages, and who refuse to admit that the sin of sodomy is wrong also and take Pope Francis out of context.
Ann T., just to be clear, I’m not by any means on the left. Unless I’ve gone so far right I’m nearing left now. That said, I pray Pope Francis for all his press (Was bound to happen despite his style what with him replacing a still-living Pope.) would indeed treat the Church like a field hospital, or perhaps like the triage ditch on the front lines.
I wish he’d get down in the trenches to examine the cause of dysentery and gangrene that is actually killing us spiritually. Many can’t even make it to the hospital – or even realize they are seriously wounded – and that’s the Catholics already in the Church. And the perception that he’s dissing the war-fighter (that is the Faithful) is a little hard to take. Yes, we can always do better, but morale is everything for sustaining a good fight.
As to the rest, fill the medics syringes with penicillin so to speak instead of just morphine. Give them scalpels to cut away that which kills for real. Arm the troops so we don’t get attacked while we’re bleeding out in the streets.
I’m sure it is just his style, but Francis does seem to speak as if he’s fighting a different war while we on the ground are getting hammered with AK fire and our kids dragged off to be Taliban fighters. That’s assuredly what it feels like.
Even so, I hear what you’re saying. God bless and Happy New Year!
Michael is another Catholic taking away the real understanding of the Natural law!~ God gave the world the Natural law to all and to surprise you it applies to even those who are not Catholic…WOW what a concept.
I find it distasteful for you to bring up SCHISMATICS topic! Especially on these trying times where we are facing spiritual battles and we need to unite with all those with common decency and common good for mankind, YES THE NATURAL LAW applies to all human beings…God did not say that schismatics can not participate in His ways…..I think that some Catholics are Jealous of non Catholic Christian’s because for some reason their study of the Word of God has moved their hearts to the right way, and they have the guts to actually speak up, unlike the so called Catholic Pelosis’s of the world, or the Kennedy’s.
Michael: Not only accept the authority of the Church and the Pope, but also the accretions that have attached themselves like barnacles to the Bark of Peter since Vatican 2. If they agree to that, they’re finished. They will have become Protestants like the rest.
God Bless him!
Amen to that!
The speech would have been fine except that he held gay sex the equivilant of bestiality, which even conservatives would agree is a bit over the top. Quoting Scripture is wonderful, but the “add ons” to the quote is what got him into trouble.
Your are right, but it wasn’t only the bestiality talk. It was the insinuation that black people didnt suffer in the era of segregation
Yes, equating sodomy to bestiality was inappropriate. Sodomy is more disgusting.
Ski Ven lol gotta love you…you are a breath of fresh air!
When I made my previous comment, I failed to take into consideration that someone might be depraved enough to commit sodomy and bestiality at the same time. Such an oversight is due to my ignorance about such matters. I must defer to the superior knowledge of some of our regular trolls on such matters.
Ski Ven and others, all Phil was doing was listing off the sexual taboos (sins) mentioned in the book of Leviticus, which does include bestiality. That does not mean that they are all equivalent, some are worse than others depending on the circumstances, dangers to the body and society and results. All my post Vatican II prayer books ask about such sins, including bestiality, under the examination of conscience. Most adult prayer books do. They ask in a delicate manner by having one include in the confessional with whom (not by name) or what (usually using the word animal) one committed sexual sins, so the word bestiality is not usually actually used. Now enough of such nonsense.
he is fine….if he considers the sin of sodomy that way, then that is his opinion and I respect it! It is not far from the truth.
I didn’t interpret that he was equating gay sex with bestiality at all, rather implying that sin is a slippery slope. And it is. That said, he was rather colorful in his paraphrasing. No doubt about that.
Ann M that is true….he sure got people to think….
I wouldn’t be surprised if it helped save some poor soul looking for answers but many suppress the truth, that it had to come out that way…and who knows who needed to hear that message…I know many heard it but many reject it but if it saved one soul….well Praise Be Jesus Christ.
Absolutely the colorful paraphrasing got folks to take notice, Abeca. No doubt about it. That said, Our Lord was pretty bold in calling out the Pharisees as whited sepulchers. And sons of the Father of Lies. I have no problem with bold speech. It gets out attention.
We’re so accustomed to polite-speak these days, that is anemic pabulum, that whenever any spice is added (even Salt) we balk like little wee babies.
Funny, how we as a people say we value diversity, color, flavor in our foods, exotic influences, expressive dress and customs, etc, etc. Nobody would laud a banquet of tepid porridge – aimed at not offending the sensitive stomach of anybody. And yet our speech is now to be subject to the strainer, a strainer that would extract all meaning, diversity, intention, spice, anything but meaningless babble.
So, yes, I think many a soul will be moved by Phil’s boldness.
that is true Ann….but we must always remember to keep chaste and modest as well in our conversation but this gentleman is from the great outdoors and he spoke the language of many I suppose, so it is fine, I can respect that. Its better than the politically correctness that is so phoney. LOL I recall St. Paul telling us to reach out to people in their own language, etc…
Phil Robertson’s oldest son is a pastor, which is why you don’t see him on the reality TV program, “Duck Dynasty.” He is doing more to spread the Word than any Kardashian, the Jersey Shore gang, etc., etc., ever could do, and by raising a won who became a pastor, his conversion to Christianity has had a ripple effect on his family, the families of his grown children, the congregation his son, Allan,
leads, and now is reaching millions of Americans who rarely see anyone on TV proclaim the Lord in a popular reality show.
God bless Phil Robertson, wild man that he may be, yet a practicing Christian having a great effect on our otherwise beleaguered nation! So many well-groomed men and women in fine clothes and tasteful homes keep their religious devotion a secret, almost as if it were something intended to keep to oneself. Phil Robertson is creating waves.
We Catholics should take courage and wear our crucifixes and joy proudly in public, saying things like, “Thank you, and God bless you” whenever possible, letting people know we are Catholics and happy to talk about the faith with anyone we meet. Jesus instructed us to so do, with no admonitions concerning political correctness.
I agree with you Maryanne…good comments…God bless you for your charity towards our Christian brothers and sisters….we all need to unite when it comes to defending what we hold sacred, which is the life of the unborn human being etc.
Pope Liberius’s and Pope Honorious’s Heads of the Congregation for the Faith, or whatever they were then called, probably said the same about those that opposed them, such as St. Athanasius the Great, Doctor of the Church!
Neither of those unfortunate Popes even have the title of Saint or Martyr!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika!
Viva Cristo Rey!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Would that all bishops had the courage of this guy!
juergensen we do have some courageous Bishops, praise God for that. But Phil made headlines because he is in a popular tv show and is well known more by now. We have wonderful Bishops who are not on any popular show to receive enough exposure but they are still doing the work of our Lord. But I see what you mean, the Bishops who are not doing enough could learn from our non-Catholic Christians neighbors.
Some, yes. I’ve heard of a few who enforce Canon 915 and deny communion to abortionist homosexual politicians – but there are over 250 bishops in America!
All of the “bishops” could make a strong statement by enforcing, and instructing their priests to enforce Canon 915.
Even some of the bishops who are praised by the conservatives, will not obey and follow Canon 915.
I hope and pray I am wrong, but watch to see Cardinal Burke further humiliated to please the dissenters by being replaced as Head of Canon Law!
Once beasts taste blood or even just smell blood, it is almost impossible to stop their attacks!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika!
Viva Cristo Rey!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher, Founding Director
Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc.
I think A&E and Phil Robertson are chumping all of us.
I think this controversy has been calculated. It’s getting them massive publicity and drawing viewers. To me, I think it was planned all along.
Do you really believe that Roberston’s comments to GQ were an accident? When celebrities sit down for an interview, they typically negotiate control of the video. Otherwise, you don’t get the interview. They do this to protect their images.
Also, they set out what questions they will, or will not answer. And, their parent company or network will have a PR person there to prevent them from answering inflationary or controversial questions.
Give the typical nature of how these encounters are managed, do you think its an accident? I don’t, and I think you’re naive if you do. Here’s one more fun fact, why is a clearly conservative celebrity sitting down with a “liberal” magazine? How does “Duck Dynasty” fit GQ’s readership? This thing was set up as a culture clash from square one.
That means the “fight” between A&E and Robertson is a stage-managed show (what else is “reality” TV?). Look what’s happened. People like Father Karl, with conservative values but who never watched the show, are tuning in. Liberals who would never have watched a bunch of hayseeds in Louisiana are checking it out now to see what all the shouting is about.
A&E and Robertson are happily making bank deposits after stirring up the hornet’s nest.
jonj frankly I don’t give a hoot what you think….you lost me with your support of gay rights.
Abeca, that automatic discrediting demonstrates a lot about you.
People can be very wrong on one issue, and very right on another. This is exactly the kind of thinking that I can’t bear when it comes to Catholics and gays.
Let’s suppose Catholic morality is right about homosexuality. That does not mean that a gay person cannot perform acts of kindness or contribute to society in other aspects of their life. Yet, people like Canisius presume that failing in this area makes the complete individual worthless.
Not only is this presumption wrong, it is also immoral.
JonJ I stand by my comments especially more now since you decided to slander a good and holy devout priest by calling him a bigot….you sir need our prayers even more….its a cross we all have to carry more and it is getting heavy by the offensive manner in which you choose to offend people of faith.
The devil is a master of confusion, many times mixing truth with lies.
jonJ, study a Catholic Bible and the ‘Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition’ in entirety and you won’t have to be concerned about propogating – heresy, schism, scandal and falsehoods – mortal sins.
There is a section in the CCC about use of the media, which you violate at times.
That is true ANDY…that can certainly help many continue on a good path…this world is full of confusion…if we slip just a little we become scandalized but prayer, fasting, and doing as you say can help us remain faithful. We need to keep our focus on Christ at all times.
Today I visited, I don’t live near by, a parish in Escondido, CA for Mass(Sunday morn, St. Mary’s) and the pastor there gave a wonderful homily. He is such a devout and holy priest. My husband and our kids enjoy his homilies, we take the long drive once in a while just to hear his homilies. I hope we don’t make him nervous but we do appreciate the guidance of good priests. The ones who do care about our salvation. They are in constant spiritual battle and need our prayers. After mass, my son said “mum I really appreciated his homily”….I smiled because I was happy to know that our kids are listening and they do want the truth to help them apply to their everyday life.
Not its not…its correct… but I freely admit I hate homosexuals and what they have done to the Church and the Culture…Sorry if my personal experience has proven me right JonJ. I could care less what you think of me, you are nothing to me…..
No JonJ, there really is a Satan and the gay-mafia does exist.
You can’t negate the fact that they were attacked by the thought police for sharing their faith. Nice try, though. Perhaps another time.
Nice try, Ski Ven?
Certainly, they are being attacked for sharing their faith (in a very crude manner).
But, you’re being a chump if you don’t think they, and A&E didn’t know precisely what they were doing. They are getting exactly the results they hoped to get.
People are now going out and buying “Duck Commander” stuff. People are tuning in. A&E has “suspended” Phil Robertson, and will maintain opposition long enough to get a whole lot of petitions for his reinstatement, until they will bow to popular demand. Even if the original comment was spontaneous (and I showed how that’s VERY unlikely), by now both A&E and Robertson know they’re getting advertising that they couldn’t buy. Fox news is now covering them 24/7.
Geez, this is manufactured conflict, just like the Kardashians floating he rumor that Bruce Jenner is getting a divorce from their mom because he’s a transsexual—except its a much more successful ad campaign.
The Robertson’s are not dumb, they’re not “simple”, and they’re very smart businessmen. They didn’t build a successful, multi-million company from the ground up over 30 years without understanding marketing and advertising.
Of course, the Robertson’s could also very genuinely feel this way, and see it as a way to BOTH promote their business and spread the Word of God. Though I suspect A&E is purely after the $$$.
Gee, JonJ. Thanks for telling me that I am an idiot. I guess I can’t expect much else from someone who previously called Canisus and Skai morons. It’s not like I actually said that the Robertsons had no idea what effect their comments would have or that they didn’t anticipate that these topics would come up. For some reason you act like I said something like that. Some folks might think that you were trying to give the reader the impression that I said something that I didn’t say or that just maybe you were trying to make me look stupid. I was only addressing the fact that they were attacked by the oh so predictable thought police. I limited my comments to that aspect of the whole controversy. That was all I was talking about. How you can find all that other stuff in my comment is beyond me. Perhaps I am just too stupid to understand. Perhaps I didn’t understand what I was actually saying and I needed you to enlighten me. Yeah, that’s it, JonJ. I am just stupid, like everyone else, except for you and your friends, of course.
Ski Ven, notice I never “called” you anything.
However, if you read my post and conclude that you must be stupid, far be it from me to dispute the matter with you. As for calling Skai and Canisius morons, I very much regret that post. I regret comparing morons to Skai and Canisius. There is, of course, nothing morally wrong with lacking intellectual gifts. This is a truth I often fail to recognize.
Canisius has nothing to contribute besides hatred, while I have difficulty appreciating Skai’s wonderful ability to cram more logical fallacies into a post than there are sentences. He is remarkably concise, in his own way.
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Sure you didn’t call me anything. You made a conditional ad hominem statement and went on responding to me as if I had said something that would make me fit the conditions that you had laid out in your ad hominem statement. You seem to be addicted to ad hominem argumentation. Your showing contempt for those whom you consider yourself to be intellectually superior to demonstrates that you have nothing to offer but hatred. Don’t you know that the same God that made you made those that you despise too? Can you go one week without making an ad hominem attack or would that be to hard for you? Can you say something nice about Canisius or Skai?
Ski Ven I consider you intelligent…..a cool lad…someone who can reason better than most. They say that good friends are rare, they are like treasures….well you can figure out the rest.
I stand in judgment of you JonJ believe its not the other way around….
Ski Ven,
I do admit I used a conditional ad hominem in that post. That was bad.
However, the other points there are aimed to support the proposition that Phil Robertson and A&E were intentionally whipping up controversy for purposes of increasing ratings. What “strawman” (as you imply) is involved in that?
Trying to claim having nothing but contempt for those I consider intellectually inferior shows I have nothing to contribute but hate doesn’t logically connect. Even presuming the first part is true, the second does not follow. I have not, for example, suggested that people I consider intellectually inferior should be categorically denied jobs that they are capable of performing, abused, and imprisoned. Skai and Canisius have repeatedly demanded that such things be done to homosexuals.
You are attempting to “hoist me on my own petard” simply because I said Canisius has nothing to contribute but hate. I understand you find that aesthetically pleasing, but you should at least use rational arguments.
You implication that I can’t go a week without hurling an ad hominem on here is blatantly false and easily refuted. Until recently, I hadn’t posted on this site in over a month. Track my posts and you will see I typically indulge in ad hominems againt people who hurl them. Look at my replies to Ann M (she and I don’t agree on points but the disputes are polite). I’m not perfect in that regard. I did call Fr. Richard Perzovich a bigot, yet I can back that assertion by his actions.
I presume there are positive aspects to Skai and Canisius’ personalities, but I can’t name any positive trait that I have noticed on here. Any such statement from me at this point would be simply dishonest.
JonJ: I’ve got to admit I thought the exact same thing. There is so much that goes on behind the scenes of promoting a product of any kind. That said, all of the supposed ‘shock’ over GQ magazine asking Phil ‘controversial questions’ and then being horrified at his ‘controversial’ responses is absurd. I do not think, however, that Phil Robertson would have been privy to such pretext, but rather going forth in an honest manner to answer the questions put to him. (The man doesn’t really need to make anymore ‘bank’ and yet, I believe, would be interested in getting his message out and in a way that would garner attention.)
I don’t care if there was a plot or not…..the truth was shared in his own language…..done….the rest who cares….
Ann,
It could be that Phil Robertson was set up by his network, or even his own marketing people.
He could also be “cashing in”, where he doesn’t much care about “mo money”. Yet, entrepreneurs rarely think in such a fashion—and yes—company founders are entrepreneurs. Typically, entrepreneurs have “dream” projects that they don’t quite have the financial resources to put in play, no matter how wealthy they may be. That’s why you’ll see fabulously wealthy people chasing even more money.
They’re good at what they do. For them, putting together a big business idea and making it fly is like painting a masterpiece or writing a book. They’re more concerned at actualizing the idea than they are in obtaining more creature comforts—so that they view money as a tool rather than a means to acquire desired consumer goods.
Not every entrepreneur is devoid of principle, JonJ, although a good many probably are. Some actually believe what they say.
Phil Robertson is no dummy, despite the outward trappings that those who supposedly advocate for non-judgement love to judge. That said, it is entirely likely, in my view, that the man just gave G.Q. the truth as he saw it when asked an obviously loaded question.
Again, Phil Robertson is no dummy, but rather a savvy business person and avid hunter. IOW: He knows what it means to hunt, to be hunted, to take aim, and to succeed, and to mislead. He also, I would think, understands the value of ‘Truth in Advertising,’ and played G.Q.s little scenario to his advantage of all. Take it or leave it.
Ann, I wouldn’t say that being focused on succeeding in order to undertake even bigger projects necessarily “lacks principle”, if the projects themselves are morally and ethically sound.
Sometimes, you have to ignore a wrong in the short term to accomplish a more important goal (see Mikhail Gorbachev). Your take could certainly be correct though. I think it’s hard to judge from the outside—and how we choose can be as much about our biases in how we interpret available information.
Absolutely, one must pick their battles, JonJ.
“…and how we choose can be as much about our biases in how we interpret available information.” That’s precisely why I advocate, as much as possible, for Church leadership to teach the fullness of the Truth minus the modern spin. It dilutes the message too much.
God bless and thanks for the exchange. I’ve enjoyed dialoguing with you.
Well, your Phil is back on television and the I was right- you so-called Christians want to oppress women via, forced birthing, incite peopleepic people to kill Gays, and bring back Jim Crow, if not slavery itself. I don’t see Jessica in any of you and may Christmas protect us from your ilk.
P. McCoy, really? Get some help!
I admit to having watched lots of Duck Dynasty while recuperating recently. Phil Robertson is the real deal, a very committed Christian, albeit not exactly of our stripe in choice of church, appearance, or lifestyle, but he is sincere and cannot be manipulated or intimidated by yuppies with money.
Phil Robertson, whom some condescendingly consider a hick, is both successful, politically incorrect, a product of his times and place, cannot be bought, and does not fear arrest by the thought police. He might be said to be his own man if he had not long ago given himself to Jesus Christ, turned his life around, and devoted himself to living his own life as a devoted family man and faithful Christian. He seeks to be Biblically correct rather than politically correct at all times, with all people.
A&E is interested solely in the bottom line and accordingly has manipulated this situation brilliantly to that end. Duck Dynasty may well be an acquired taste, but never before has it been so frequently on the tongues of Americans than since Phil Robertson spoke his interpretation of God’s honest truth as plainly as he could, as usual.
It is better to be the child of God than king of the whole world. — St. Aloysius Gonzaga
Nothing is far from God. — St. Monica
Not the goods of the world, but God. Not riches, but God. Not honors, but God. Not distinction, but God. Not dignities, but God. Not advancement, but God. God always and in everything. — St. Vincent Pallotti