Time and again over the last four years, Francis has uttered an arresting phrase – in a press conference, in a media interview, in a Q&A session, during his morning homily – which has been launched out of a media canon, firing both imagination and controversy.
We got another entry on Wednesday in a new interview with a German newspaper, in which Francis denies seeing American Cardinal Raymond Burke as an “adversary,” signals a cautious opening to discussion about married priests, voices alarm about the rise of political populism in Europe, and takes a gentle swipe at what he calls “fundamentalist Catholics.”
Whenever these bombshells explode, pundits and commentators go into overdrive trying to explain (and sometimes spin) what the pope actually meant.
Less noticed, however, is the grassroots pastoral challenge they create, as parish priests and other Church personnel scramble to answer people’s questions about what was said and what it might mean.
Some are trying to get ahead of that curve, such as an old friend of mine, Father Dave Heney of the Archdiocese of Los Angeles. A number of years ago he founded an interparish program of Lenten faith formation called the “University Series,” and this year he asked me to give a couple of presentations under the provocative title of, “What Did Pope Francis Mean By That?”
The idea was to give people some tools for standing back from whatever the latest sensation may be, and trying to make sense of it. I offered three basic rules of thumb.
First, whatever else these bombshells may be, they are clearly not a formal expression of the pope’s teaching authority. If Francis wanted to declare a new dogma binding on Catholic consciences, he knows how to do it, and a one-off zinger in a press conference isn’t it.
That’s not to say, of course, one should simply disregard whatever the pope says in these informal settings. He’s the pope, and his words always deserve to be received with respect. However, his opinion on the Charlie Hebdo attacks [“If (a close friend) says a swear word against my mother, he’s going to get a punch in the nose” – in response to a question about the Charlie Hebdo attacks in Paris] obviously doesn’t have the same standing as, say, declarations in the Creed about the Trinity or about Christ.
At the very beginning, the Vatican spokesman at the time, Jesuit Father Federico Lombardi, said we’re in the presence of a new genre of papal speech – loose, spontaneous, not vetted by teams of theologians, and we’ll have to adjust our modes of interpretation accordingly. That remains as true today as it was when Lombardi said it.
Second, it’s important to remember that these one-liners don’t always capture the pope’s own priorities. Often they’ve come in response to questions other people have asked him, rather than something he brought up himself.
If you want to understand what really drives this pope, it’s wiser to look at the conversations he’s initiated in the first person – his encyclicals and other documents, for instance, or his speeches on trips and to gatherings he takes especially seriously, such as the World Meeting of Popular Movements that he founded three years ago.
While the soundbite may help define Francis from a media point of view, it’s probably not how he himself sees the heart of his papacy.
Third and finally, it’s essential to put these utterances in context in order to grasp what Francis really meant.
The “breeding like rabbits” soundbite [“Catholics don’t need to breed like rabbits” – in the context of a question about birth control], for instance, was initially taken in some circles as a step back from the Church’s opposition to artificial birth control, but in context the pontiff appeared to be talking about Natural Family Planning and other Church-approved strategies for what Francis called “responsible parenthood.”
Full story by John L. Allen Jr. at Crux.
Please remind me again why I am not sedevacantist?
Because you find a pastors drawings something you cannot tolerate does not make the pastor’s voice silent. or his chair vacant.
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Church Approved Messages of Our Lady of Fatima and Our Lady of Akita
Our Blessed Mother called us to the Rosary. In fact, at Fatima, she identified herself as Our Lady of the Rosary, the name by which she calls her children to pray to her. And at each visit to Fatima, she requested the daily Rosary. In her last appearance at Akita, Oct. 13, 1973, Our Lady stressed the importance of the Rosary, saying,
“The only arms which will remain for you will be the Rosary and the Sign left by my Son. Each day recite the prayers of the Rosary. With the Rosary, pray for the Pope, the bishops and the priests.”
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The third message of Our Lady of Akita on October 13, 1973:
“As I told you, if men do not repent and better themselves, the Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be a punishment greater than the deluge, such as one will never have seen before. Fire will fall from the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity, the good as well as the bad, sparing neither priests nor faithful. The survivors will find themselves so desolate that they will envy the dead.”
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“The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, bishops against bishops. The priests who venerate me will be scorned and opposed by their confreres (other priests); churches and altars will be sacked; the Church will be full of those who accept compromises and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord. The demon will be especially implacable against souls consecrated to God. The thought of the loss of so many souls is the cause of my sadness. If sins increase in number and gravity, there will be no longer pardon for them.” – Words of Our Lady of Akita, Japan
Are you putting Our Lady of Fatima on the same level as the not-church approved goings on at Akita?
Are you seeking to distract from reality, YFC?
Cardinal Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict XVI, in June 1988, approved the Akita events as “reliable and worthy of belief”. In fact, the Philippine ambassador to the Vatican, in 1998 spoke to Cardinal Ratzinger about Akita and the Cardinal: “personally confirmed to me that these two messages of Fatima and Akita are essentially the same”
No, Pope Benedict did not “approve” the Akita events, and Vatican approvals are not given through hearsay statements such as the one you recollect. Don’t forget, pilgrimages bring big tourist bucks into a diocese, so a Bishop, or even a Bishop’s conference, is not sufficient.
I’m not pressing the issue that Akita is approved, YFC. I’m pointing out that then Cardinal Ratzinger made the comparison between Akita and Fatima. Your distraction is insufficient. Especially as we can easily witness all around us Cardinal against Cardinal, Bishop against Bishop, etc.
It is essential to realize the devastating effect these utterances have on the Catholic faith.
Exactly
Sounds to me like we have someone in a position of authority that shouldn’t be there. Clarity from the person who is speaking is all I ask but when he refuses to answers question, that raises another question, why wont he ? Ignorance or deliberate ?
Any speaker may offer the audience either a clear statement or a studied ambiguity. A clear statement leaves no room for interpretation. A studied ambiguity is a carefully worded statement which allows the hearer to apply an interpretation. If a speaker wishes to unify a group around a truth or an opinion, a clear statement is given. If a speaker wishes to divide a group from its previous thinking, a studied ambiguity provides a tool to divide the group from its moorings around its previously held beliefs.
….and this policy of studied ambiguity is not new. Francis is just more daring in putting it out there.
Thank goodness, too. The hidden pitfall is worse. And so, while it is shocking to the senses, this obvious confusion being disbursed from Rome is forcing otherwise sleeping Catholics to wake up and engage the Truth. The crisis that first reared its head decades ago, the same that was poo-pooed by those who refused to see it, is now in full swing.
But we get the leadership we deserve.
Sorry, our experience with Pope Francis shows that his “public utterances” are indeed a mirror to his deeper thoughts and political schemes. The Pope, much like President Obama did, has an internal agenda, far beyond keeping the Barque of Peter on a steady course and expanding the Faith, leading Mankind to salvation. He is a political man, socialist, collectivist, and very much against the “Medieval Catholic Church.” He will continue down the path to married man ordination (women in the wings), open communion, and “ecumenical” sacraments. Think bad with Obama, a little here and there, then the deluge of change of foundational beliefs. Francis is no different; he ignores the Holy Ghost.
He is Jesuit and he is old. The combination is dangerous.
In these very secular times, a good Pope would speakl frequently and loudly and clellry against the enormous immorality and the forces that promote it. On that, our Pope is rather silent or else he is under-reported when he speaks such?
All public figures go to Auschwitz to pay their respects to the Jewish people. When will our Pope come to Planned Parenthood and say, “Never again.”
God Bless you Luis M for what you said. We must pray for Pope Francis that he will see the need to retire and quit confusing the one True, Catholic Church. He is a very mixed up priest who needs guidance. Pray to St. John Paul II that he will guide this very confused Pope.
“Populism is evil and ends badly as the past century showed,” (The Independent-UK, 3/9/17), the second time P Francis has warned against the ‘dangers of growing populist movements in the U.S. as well as Europe.’
PF cites Nazi Germany as the “…Most obvious example of populism in the European sense of the word.” “Hitler didn’t steal power, his people voted for him” … “In times of crisis we lack judgment.” (Irony alert.) He claimed people “look for a savior who gives us back our identity and [lets] us defend ourselves with walls, barbed-wire, whatever…”—an obvious reference to Trump, also Wilders, Le Pen.
Methinks PF would prefer we didn’t have the democratic process, but that he would appoint national leaders.
But P Francis—what about the devastation wrought by true Reds like da Castro Crime Family in Cuba or da Maduros in Venezuela, or the devastation of “Lula” in Brazil?
And people wonder why he is called the Red Pope.
“Hitler didn’t steal power, his people voted for him” Not true. Hitler decisively lost the 1932 presidential election against Paul von Hindenburg. His Nazi party became the largest in the Reichstag, but it never won a majority of the seats, even in the March 1933 elections, undertaken after the Reichstag fire and about a month after Hitler pressured von Hindenburg into appointing him chancellor (equivalent to prime minister.)
This is a very thought provoking article, as are the comments to date. I suspect that the Pope knows what he is doing. He is trying to change the Church’s approach to meeting the people where they are. I suspect that, no proof, that many of his off-the-cuff comments are well rehearsed and designed to get discussions started. He is also, no proof, well aware of how little real legitimate power he really has. His power is his popularity with the world’s people. He also knows that the Curia can fight him, and often win, on issues they don’t like. The rules about abuse of children is a good example. They are just ignoring him. This drives we U.S. Americans crazy, especially the “orthodox” among us. We are use to the rule of law…
“His power is his popularity with the world’s people.”
That’s the problem. A Pope’s power is to come from Christ when he passes on that which he has received. What you’re outlining Bob One is that Francis is the Populist of which he speaks. The one we should view with wariness. The one who would have people follow him, not who he represents.
As for the Pope knowing what he is doing, yes. I agree with that statement. Accusing others of being guilty of what one is doing themselves is a classic deflection technique.
Praise God for the papacy of Pope Francis! God is truly blessing the Church (and the world) under the leadership of Pope Francis. Pope Francis is clearly showing Christians the true and holy way to follow Jesus that has been obscured with a millennia of human added nonsense – some of which is so aptly evident by the critical posts on this site. Long live Pope Francis!
Rah, rah, rah for the Red Pope, Hector! The millions leaving the Church and the hundreds the priesthood (which the latter even P Frank owned up to the “hemorraghing” — his word — of the loss of priests under his leadership, in January of this year), these losses are really “good” so we have a smaller, “purer” Church…of sycophants, we suppose.
P Francis, Hector, read his admission of his failed leadership with regards to priests, whom he often denigrates (“little monsters”, “unfruitful bachelors”)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4166774/Pope-frets-hemorrhage-priests-nuns-church.html
An ex-Jesuit friend mentioned after Mass two weeks ago that there were only 2000 priests in Brazil so we needed married priests. Yesterday this was in Judge Jeannine, a program in Fox News. The last two sínods established though footnotes that shacking up, Gay sex and divorce were fine by Papa Francesco. Next Synod is on the priesthood. After married priests, expect women priests, then Gay priests, then Gay married priests, then complaints about why we do not have Mass attendance. Such are the fruits of Vatican II and these old radical Jesuit devils.
Or, as in my “beloved” Protestant Episcopal Church, Gratias, we can also expect gay re-married ex-divorced priests and extra-marital same-sex scandals and child support costs for the dismembered families with lengthy litigation in domestic relations court and costs of family law attorneys, of course, to be borne directly or indirectly by the parish community.
Remember “Bishop” Vicky Gene/Jean Robinson of the PEC? I guess he is paying his divorce court fees through his new job as a senior fellow at the progressive thinktank, American Progress.
Take a look at your future in P Frank’s Church, fellow Catholic.
I don’t know where you get your opinions from Gratias, but I wish you would take some moment to investigate and study the reality. “Papa Francesco”, what we might think of as a term of endearment but you seem to use as a moniker of disdain, did not anywhere in any footnote condone the things you say he condoned. Nowhere. That idea is completely made up! And then you go on to compound your problem by confusing issues of doctrine and morals, like extramarital sex, with matters of Church discipline, like whether priests ought to be allowed to marry. Personally, I’m neutral on the idea of a married clergy. I have seen situations that favor it, and situations that disfavor it. But it is not on the same “par” as extramarital sex. Not even…
AA: if I substituted Pope Benedict or Pope John Paul II for the name of Pope Francis in my post above, you and other Trad Catholics would be ecstatic. Pope Francis is merely opening the doors of the Church to sinners, the broken, the poor…the very people Jesus loves.
It is very unsettling how when asked ordinary questions this Holy Father lashes out at what he calls “fundamentalist Catholics”, implying he does not consider Catholics who love Catholic tradition to be true members of his Church.
Couple that with P Francis’ refusal to celebrate the Mass In Coena Domini at the ancient Lateran basilica, establishing and maintaining the open and public tradition of the popes going back to Peter and the Apostles in the Upper Room with Our Lord. Or refusing to kneel. Don’t tell me about his “sciatica”: when he was desired to make a point, he has knelt, and knelt at length, such as when washing a Muslim woman’s feet, and strangely kissing them (Last Holy Thursday, 2016). Yet in none of the…
…these occasions has he celebrated Mass at the ancient Lateran basilica, for the Catholic public, who could all attend, either in person or by viewing on TV around the world. Why?
Here is what he has done the past 4 years:
2013: Visit to the Youth Prison
2014: visit to a disabled facility
2015: visit to prison
2016: visit to refugee home
And 2017? All of these were private events, except with much photojournalist coverage. Why?