Andrew Cuomo, will officially leave office on Aug. 25…. Raymond J. de Souza, a priest and editor of Convivium magazine, noted the following in The Catholic Register after Cuomo resigned on Aug. 11:
“Mario Cuomo practiced his faith and took the public consequences of that faith seriously. Thus, when he found himself at odds with the clear teaching of the Church on the right to life, he made a public argument to explain his ‘personally opposed, publicly pro-choice’ position. It was an argument more of political convenience than philosophical coherence, but it was an argument.
“Andrew was neither his father’s intellectual nor rhetorical equal, and would not, even if he had tried, been capable of coherent argument in political philosophy, let alone moral philosophy. He didn’t even try. He was grasping — in the metaphorical sense, not only in the groping sense — and only did what was politically necessary.
“His Catholic significance is that he no longer judged it necessary to make arguments about how to reconcile his Catholic faith with his embrace of the extreme abortion license. He simply sacrificed his faith to his politics and got on with the pursuit of power.”
It was just one of the many comments over the past week regarding Cuomo’s legacy in the broader context of being a Catholic politician. Kathryn Jean Lopez, a senior fellow at the National Review Institute, went a step further in a recent column:
“His behavior with women is totally in keeping with the politics of expanding abortion, in which he has been a leader — in a place already described by some as the abortion capital of the world, no less. But while he unapologetically claims that the accusations of sexual harassment are just generational misunderstandings, the problem is really the sexual revolution and its accompanying disrespect for women. Just about every time I pray outside an abortion clinic, I see it — in the form of boyfriends who often won’t even bother to open the car door for their supposed partners — but as the #MeToo movement hinted, it’s everywhere.”
In 2019, Cuomo signed into law legislation that codified Roe v. Wade into New York state law. The legislation came during the presidency of Donald Trump, where many political progressives feared Republicans would roll back abortion rights. Political conservatives and many Catholics recoiled at what Cuomo, a former altar server, did at the time, some even calling on his excommunication from the Church.
Even among Catholic progressives, the Cuomo scandal has been a tragic end for a man many had once admired. Jim McDermott, writing in the Jesuit publication America, noted the similarities between Cuomo’s downfall and the clergy sex-abuse scandal that has rocked the church in recent decades. McDermott, a priest, observed the following:
“The more I sit with what we have learned, the more disgusted I become with myself, as well. Our recent history is filled with stories of celebrated men who have secretly perpetrated horrific acts of one form or another, often with the assistance or tacit acceptance of many others. My entire work life as a priest has included one wave after another of revelations of violence and cover-up in the church, some of them including acts perpetrated by men I have lived with or deeply admired, and institutional leadership often continuing to lean into secrecy despite it all. The sexual abuse of children is a different situation than Andrew Cuomo’s, but underlying it is the same issue of power, abuse and cover-up….”
The above comes from an Aug. 16 story in Religion Unplugged.
High profile people who claim to be Catholic, and live scandalous lives do no favors to the Church they profess to respect.
Better they just admit they are secularists with some holdover sentimental feelings for what they think is Catholic.
Self-described “traditionalists” who claim to be Catholic, yet dissent from the solemn teachings of the Church such as Vatican II, dissent from other moral teachings of the Church such as the death penalty, and dissent by denigrating the Ordinary Form, do no favors to the Church they profess to respect.
Better they just confess and repent of the fact that they have become essentially divisive with some holdover feelings for what they think is Catholic.
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. Isaiah 5:20
And your post has what to do with the article ?
Jon, Cuomo and those of his ilk do much damage to the Church and her perception, it’s ok for you to hold your nose and agree with me.
Cuomo and his ilk, as well as those who do not adhere to the teachings of Vatican II and uphold the Ordinary Form, equally do much damage to the Church.
Deus Vult was pointing out the obvious. Making it about something other than Cuomo, the subject of the article, looks like you are just won’t accept common ground.
Oh my first comment had nothing to do with Cuomo. If you look at DVult’s very first comment and my own, you’ll find that I merely copied his sentence while amending it appropriately in order to show the hypocrisy of judging others when oneself is not free from judgment.
Better they just confess and repent?
Calm down, guy.
What Andrew Cuomo means to Catholics – Hypocrisy
I have some questions? Do all those priests who serve in the other rites of the Church, such as the Ambrosian Rite and the Eastern Rites also have to serve in the Ordinary Latin Rite (Newer Latin Rite)? Do they have to agree with everything in the Ordinary Latin Rite, such as the Filioque? If not, why should all those who serve in the Extraordinary Latin Rite (Ancient Rite) be expected to serve in and agree with everything the Ordinary Latin Rite? Why can’t they, too, have a rite all their own?
I think bi-ritual priests are rare but yes, they have to believe in everything the Catholic Church believes.
There are not two Latin Rites. There are two forms of the Latin Rite.
So basically, there are two different missals approved for use in the Latin Rite.
No Catholic should have a problem with either one, but people are poorly catechized.
But from what I have read Eastern Catholics do not have to accept the Filioque. Is that correct?
I can see also why traditional Latin Rite Catholics have a problem with the newer canon law of the 1980’s. Laurie Lightfoot, who is not even a Catholic and has a lesbian partner just received Communion at a Catholic funeral for a fallen police officer. I agree with Dr. Taylor Marshall that she had to have been given prior approval for Communion by Bishop Cupich. There seems to be no rules or order enforced at all in the Church any more. Just disgusting!
Dear me and Anne, I’ll attempt to clear things up a little, while unable to answer all your questions.
Bi-ritual priests are not rare. Many of our Eastern Catholic priests are bi-ritual. And, many Roman Catholic priests have bi-ritual faculties to serve our Churches, Archbishop Fulton Sheen and Fr. Mitch Pacwa SJ come readily to mind. And, actually, we are separate particular Churches, with our distinctive rites. None of our priests “have to” serve the Roman rite.
The Latin Church (Roman rite) has two “forms,” as noted below. Yet, there are other rites in the Western/Latin Church, the Ambrosian or Milanese rite, as you mentioned, among others. Yet, they’re of very limited use.
We (Eastern Catholics) believe everything the Catholic Church teaches. Yet, as you noted, we don’t use the filioque in our stating the Creed. The filioque is not in the fourth century creeds of Nicaea and Constantinople, some Western Church Fathers and Popes argued against it being put in the Creed, Pope Leo III (8th-9th cent.) had the Creed in its original form engraved on silver tablets and deposited at the tomb of St. Peter in St. Peter’s Basilica and the filioque didn’t become nearly universally part of the Latin Church’s Creed until around the time of the Great Schism (11th century).
I hope that helps a little and I’ll leave your other questions to others more knowledgeable than me and dealing with Mr. Cuomo to the Latin Church, to which he belongs.
The Extraordinary Form is not a different Rite in the Catholic Church. There is only one Rite in the Latin Church and it’s the Roman Rite which has two forms: the Ordinary and the Extraordinary: one Roman Rite expressed in two forms. It is an error to call the Mass of John XXIII as the Extraordinary “Rite”. Pope Benedict never used the term “Extraordinary Rite” in Summorum Pontificum.
Just be glad some Catholics still go to Mass.
I think there were a few rabbit holes the readers above indulged in. The main thrust from what I read was that Cuomo erred, like we all do, resigned, and now there are those who seem to be surmising that Cuomo fell to a pro-choice position because he was having dalliances? Interesting logic, to say the least. Be careful of such strings of thought, as there are plenty of similar lines to be drawn within the clergy, the church, just about every walk of life. I realize many readers believe themselves damnably near pristine with regards to their journey within the church, and to be honest, just a tad bit too judgmental. So what if Cuomo decided to become pro-choice because he had affairs – are you trying to draw a line for others who are having affairs, that they too must be pro-choice. Well, it ain’t so unless there’s some kind of research and data that is peer reviewed, and near as I can tell, the original article is simply an opinion. I’m all for free expression, but let’s not make jumps in critical thinking while we are at it…
That can be very true. Some women want abortions because they find out their husbands are cheating on them, and they do not want to bring one more child into such a marriage, or they want the other woman to abort if she is pregnant. It is still wrong since children are killed, and adoption is often the best option. That is where prolife crisis centers are suppose to help. Promiscuity is never a victimless situation. Some people learn to never do it again while others never seem to learn. Some men and women have no scruples whatsoever in breaking up some one else’s family.
Cuomo is just another sinner who needs to sincerely repent before his particular judgement or reap his just rewards. Especially for all the elderly he killed. These allegations go back decades. He had delusions of grandeur for bigger political office. He did his appointed job. When he was no longer useful the apparatchik opened the closet and pulled out the skeletons so as to disillusion him and put him in his place and distract from him and all the other governors who sent our elderly to their death. We should pray for the conversion of all our enemies