California Catholic Daily exclusive
By Eric Francis
Despite a last minute change in venue following the cancellation of a planned speaking engagement at a Maronite Catholic Church in the city of Orange, Michael Voris of Church Militant says there was “great turnout” at the re-scheduled event.
Voris spoke at the Business Expo Center in Anaheim on Sunday, February 11. It was his second stop in Orange County after speaking at St. Therese Roman Catholic Church in Alhambra the day before.
Voris published an article on February 8 explaining that there was a last-minute change of venue for the Feb. 11 event. He said the event was booked at St. John Maron Maronite Catholic Church in Orange back in August, but was cancelled a week before it was to happen.
Voris said Bishop Kevin Vann of the Diocese of Orange was behind the cancellation. “…the pastor revealed that Bishop Vann was applying pressure to make sure that Church Militant was not allowed to talk on church property, even though this parish was one over which he has absolutely no authority,” Voris said.
He said the church offered to return a deposit to the event organizer with an additional $5,000 settlement payment in exchange for keeping the details of the event cancellation secret.
The Church Militant leader characterized the proposed deal as underhanded and questioned who would be funding the $5,000 settlement.
Voris suggested that a possible reason Bishop Vann wanted his talk cancelled was because Church Militant supporters gave the bishop grief in October for allowing Fr. Greg Boyle (who dissents from church teaching on various issues), to speak on Diocese of Orange property.
“Why is it that… [Boyle is] given carte blanche to speak while faithful Catholics and their supporters are treated with contempt and are plotted against?” questioned Voris.
The Diocese of Orange did not respond to repeated requests for comment. The Maronite parish declined to comment.
Voris posted on Facebook: “In spite of Bp. Vann’s underhanded tactics, we had a great turnout tonight.”
“Why is it that… [Boyle is] given carte blanche to speak while faithful Catholics and their supporters are treated with contempt and are plotted against?”
Got that right – and it is far too widespread to be an accident. I have seen Parishes from CA to Idaho taken over by small groups of Radical Leftist / Gender Feminist / Homosex Activists who want to guard the donations of Time, Talent & Treasure by the Faithful from being used in any way that actually Supports Church Teaching..
Instead they subsidize the likes of ‘fr.martin’ and klan to Mau Mau the Masses in to abandoning the Truth in order to pander to virtue shaming Lies designed to undermine the Faith.
SSAD and Sick
Bravo Michael Voris & CM – they do Good Works
You reap what you sow.
…another descent into the darkness by bishops
The message of Michael Voris to Catholics is to know your faith and work on your personal holiness so that you can get to heaven and bring as many people with you as possible.
Bravo to him for exposing those in Church leadership who preach and teach contrary to the faith. God bless you Michael!
He wasn’t answered, why was the dissenters allowed to speak on Church property but not Mr. Voris? If both appeared could it be the TRUTH would win?
He makes his living by sinning and by violating the Gospel and the Church’s moral teaching. What he does is a sin. Satan is the father of lies.
Proverbs 25:18; John 8:44; Proverbs 6:17; Revelation 21:8; Ecclesiastes 5:2-3; Romans 1:30; Proverbs 18:8; Leviticus 19:16
To the same category [evilspeakers] belong those who cunningly foment divisions and excite quarrels; who feel a malignant pleasure in sowing discord, dissevering by fiction and falsehood the closest friendships and the dearest social ties, impelling to endless hatred and deadly combat the fondest friends. Of such pestilent characters the Lord expresses His detestation in these words: Thou shalt not be a detractor nor a whisperer among the people. Of this description were many of the advisers of Saul, who strove to alienate the king’s affection from David and to arouse his enmity against him.
From the Catechism of Trent
Just so you know-The Texas bishops did not endorse a slate of candidates and they are not being threatened with losing their tax exempt status. Today’s video problematic statement score-11
Just so you know, the video of Cardinal Cupich’s speech is on Youtube and you can see for yourself how the things he said are taken out of context and that Cardinal Cupich did say that the Church needs to teach families. I hope you noticed that that accusation about his speech was not in quotes.
You may disagree with Cardinal Cupich and Amoris Laetitia but it’s not ok to lie.
Add this to the irony of a person with his promiscuous past sitting all high and mighty judging people who at least got married and had stable families and want to get right with God and the Church without breaking up their family.
Just so you know: Father James Martin S.J. has never said that homosexuality is perfectly fine and they should be affirmed in their sin. Cardinal Reinhold Marx has not called for the blessing of homosexual couples (although it was erroneously reported that he had). Bishop McElroy and Cardinal Cupich have not pushed for sacrilegious Communions.
He has one really great quote today: Children have embraced violence because adults have shown them the way.
There is the “I heard he was bad” phenomenon. I was talking to a liberal Catholic who mentioned Steve Bannon in a negative way. I said “What don’t you like about him?’ The person froze. Then said “Oh, he’s like the KKK.” They knew nothing about him but that someone else had said he was bad.
Church Militant knows that people aren’t going to bother to look up whether what they said was true or not.
https://www.amazon.com/Man-Behind-Curtain-Michael-Homosexual-ebook/dp/B01IAIIOE2
I have not read that book but there is a video on Youtube with the author. It is an hour long and a lot of it is just social commentary but it is interesting. I always thought that the people who followed Michael Voris were just gullible but he made me realize that a lot of people just love to fight and to foment division.
I have read the comments about this book on Amazon which I found to be interesting.
The book is 2 articles that appeared in Culture War magazine by E. Michael Jones. He apparently tried to help Mr. Voris and was not successful.
I decided to check out the Amazon site. It turns out that 40% of those who have read this book gave it the lowest review possible, only one star. I am left to presume that your point is to denigrate Mr. Voris’ reputation. Why? If would seem that a huge negative 40% of reviews would speak volumes about the nature of the book.
And 43% give it 5 stars.
I have not read this book. I think a person’s story is his to tell and it is violating for another to tell it. When a person behaves in a fashion that is out of the ordinary (such as becoming a self-appointed church reformer), concerned people sometimes try to piece together what happened in someone’s life to lead them to their current path. Mr. Voris has revealed enough about his personal history to explain it. Now you have to wonder what happened in the lives of those who are willint to follow him, even to the point of putting themselves in positions of antagonism to the Church.
The Million Dollar Question:
This is a common tactic of the Church Militant folks: set up a fake “conflict” with the local priest or bishop to generate publicity. My experience with the “Church Militant” group is they want to promote their narrow “vision” of what they think the Church should be rather than the teachings of the Church. Think about it!
Very good, thoughtful observation, Ralph!
Ralph: “This is a common tactic of the Church Militant folks: set up a fake “conflict” with the local priest or bishop to generate publicity.”
Right. The above story is just fake news. Nothing to see here folks. It’s all an illusion. And that $5,000 settlement? That’s an illusion too.
God bless you and God bless Michael Voris with so much faith, hope, love, joy and serenity that you both can move on and stop worrying what other people say and do.
Anonymous: “stop worrying what other people say”
Then why are you commenting on what I said?
For the article to be legitimate, you should have contacted the parties involved such as Bishop Vann (IF he was involved), the pastor of the Maronite Church, the caterer (name available on church website) who seems to be the person who cancelled it according to the contract at the link provided.
As is, it is just speculation and hearsay. Please be more thorough.
“The Diocese of Orange did not respond to repeated requests for comment. The Maronite parish declined to comment.”
Thank you. I had missed that.
A reminder:
Can. 1373 A person who publicly incites among subjects animosities or hatred against the Apostolic See or an ordinary because of some act of power or ecclesiastical ministry or provokes subjects to disobey them is to be punished by an interdict or other just penalty.
In The New Catholic Geometry, “a circle is defined as Voris criticizing bishop : Bishop prevents Voris speaking : Voris criticizing bishop”
Saint Therese, in Alhambra, is in the Los Angeles Archdiocese. The unanswered question is; did Mr Voris try to speak at a Roman Catholic Church in the Diocese of Orange?
As to the $5,000, perhaps a refund may be due. I think the only unpublicized fact is the source of the original payment.
Look at the contract at the link
Speculation, yes. But believable.
Bishop Vann’s “patron” is Cardinal Raymond Burke.
Anyone considering an Amazon purchase who reads the reviews would have to be a blithering idiot to purchase any item that received 40% one star reviews. But then again, perhaps I overestimate you.
Gosh – the Scrambled Mess of ‘Anonymous’ drips and droppings here leaves one wondering just who has denounced who, over what?
Should we all just agree that failure to take on a Discrete Screen Name (let alone use your Real Name) is Rude to the Entire Forum?
Shouldn’t a Discrete Handle be the Minimum needed for posts that are ‘respectful’ of the Forum – if not always its various contributors.
I would just like a handle with which to keep the cards straight when assessing the hand being dealt.
It’s not a forum. It is a combox. Assess the comment (or not.)
In case they care, Orange Resistance is the name of an Anti-Trump coalition, too.
Outrage becomes addictive and it is easy to let your spiritual life slide while worrying about what others are doing. You can become religious but not spiritual and definitely not holy. Pray the Rosary. Mary will take care of everything.
St. Joseph is the patron of the Universal Church. St. Michael is Her Protector. They are doing a good job. Just pray.
I don’t know anything about either Michael Voris, or Fr. Greg Boyle — but many of us are sick to death of our Church’s TWO-FACED attitude towards Christ! Only truly Catholic speakers, who promote Christ’s true teachings, should be allowed in our parishes, as speakers! Our Church’s leaders all should know– millions of souls are waiting, world-wide, to be guided to the True Christ– and to Heaven!
Lenten Prayer of St. Ephrem
O Lord and Master of my life, take from me the spirit of sloth, despair, lust of power, and idle talk. But give rather the spirit of chastity, humility, patience, and love to Thy servant.
Yea, O Lord and King, grant me to see my own transgressions, and not to judge my brother, for blessed art Thou, unto ages of ages. Amen.
I appreciate very much Mr. Voris acknowledgement of the developmental trauma that comes from sin, although it also comes from selfishness and sometimes mental and physical illness. It is one of the great mysteries because we know that Jesus said that it was no part of His Father’s plan that any of these little one’s should come to grief. You can’t always choose happiness when you have this trauma but you can learn how. You may get to be middle or old aged before you unlearn all the negative things that parents, teachers and others cause you to think about yourself. A parent should never tell a child, young or old, that they caused them grief or illness or even death. Everyone makes their own choices but some people are so…