Posted Wednesday, June 06, 2012 6:18 AM By St. Christopher
How about “real men” standing up and demanding their Faith back, the Faith of Our Fathers kind of Faith. Look at the many, many masses in CA and everywhere where there are celebrations of the priest and meal sharing. Where is the Tabernacle, where is the talk of sacrifice, of sin and salvation? Very little in today’s Church. In fact, most the Mass is made up of happy talk, or apologetic discussion (“the new missal does not really mean that Christ died “for many”, he died for all” — that sort of thing). The kind of “fantastic topics” of these kinds of retreats are often emasculating, feminizing issues, intended to make the man happy to not be called to sacrifice, to work hard, to demand fidelity from his family, including by example. Where are the Knights of Columbus, as well, in demanding a return to the time when they really were defenders of the true Faith?
Posted Wednesday, June 06, 2012 7:03 AM By max
this is what we need — the chance for men to come together and embrace virtue rathher than vice. however, it’s a MEN’S conference, so what’s the deal with the “light breakfast?” i’d go for a good irish fry (meat, eggs, more meat, bread, sausages) any day…
Posted Wednesday, June 06, 2012 7:05 AM By max
just wondering — why is father collins wearing a pectoral cross with a chain like a bishop? and that cross is bigger than anything even the plumpest pope would wear! i thought such attire was for bishops?
Posted Wednesday, June 06, 2012 8:24 AM By MD
This sounds awesome!!! This is exactly what we and Catholics need. Men who embrace the teachings of the Lord and are guided by His most Blessed Mother. God Love you.
Posted Wednesday, June 06, 2012 8:29 AM By VirgoPotens
What a great conference, but I absolutely can’t make it on such short notice. If CCD announced this previously, I guess I just missed it. Fr. Isaac Mary Relyea is the bomb – I’ve listened to his recorded talks, and talk about lighting a fire under you….
Posted Wednesday, June 06, 2012 11:30 AM By CW-Obl.SB
MAX: In answer to your question about Fr. Collins wearing a large Crucifix… That would be a “Mission Crucifix” used for preaching parish missions. This is not representing a bishop pectoral cross in any way! God Bless You!
Posted Wednesday, June 06, 2012 12:46 PM By Arness
Father Collins is a member of the Congregation of Fathers of Mercy — Congregatio Presbyterorum a Misericordia — CPM. If you look at their website, it seems they all wear a cassock, giant pectoral cross on a chain, and a badge of some kind.
Posted Wednesday, June 06, 2012 2:38 PM By JLS
Refreshing to hear about a Catholic men’s gathering that does not include jumping naked through a bonfire.
Posted Wednesday, June 06, 2012 3:05 PM By Kenneth M. Fisher
Max, Did you even bother to notice the low cost for this conference? That alone would justify a “light breakfast”! If gas wasn’t so expensive, I would try to go to this Conference. It’s interesting that the Conference will be held in a location called “Ripon”, the Ripon Society is one of the most liberal groups that infest the Republican Party today! I don’t know if there is any connection, but God has a great sense of humor! God bless, yours in Their Hearts, Kenneth M. Fisher
Posted Wednesday, June 06, 2012 5:14 PM By Elizabeth
Kenneth M. Fisher, Not to worry about Ripon….It has been there for many years and is right outside of Modesto. And if Father Collins is going to be there, you can bet it is VERY ORTHODOX…..in fact, there is much ORTHODOXY in the Central Valley, Praise be to God !!!
Posted Wednesday, June 06, 2012 9:04 PM By Catherine
Today’s society does need real men to stand up and defend the Catholic Faith. Boy do we all need to be toughened up. Yes, there is a reason that good men have to travel to Ripon and leave their families to learn how to defend the faith. Why isn’t each local bishop providing this manly training through the priests in his diocese? St. Christopher, I guess you noticed in the top paragraph the phrase, “Be empowered” by learning more about your Catholic Faith.” The word “empowered” was first coined in the mid-17th century and used to mean “to invest with authority” or “to authorize.” In modern times this term has become so blurred in it’s usage and meaning. The word “empowered” is an absolute favorite of radical feminists who often overuse this word to politically distort the meaning by appealing to pop psychology. Hillary *Rodham* Clinton and Gloria Allred also use the word “empower” in every other sentence. Gloria Steinhem’s favorite “empowerment” quote was, “A liberated woman is one who has sex before marriage and gets a job after.” Yes, even Oprah Winfrey is giving a Life Class to empower the people but Our Lord had another meaning when he empowered the Apostolic Succession of Peter. The words “to empower” in it’s proper Catholic usage would truly mean that this “empowering” conference should only be held for our lead shepherds for these are the men who God “invested with the authority to authorize” the upholding and the guarding of the deposit of faith. Our Lord did not authorize a cowardly spirit that authorizes error or spiritual neglect. If the USCCB is truly serious about defending social justice and defending the teachings of the Catholic Faith, they should offer to help pay the the social justice cost of a movie ticket for every Catholic immigrant who has entered this country looking for refuge in Our Lady of Guadalupe. The movie For Greater Glory will help to teach all men how to be men and why you do not compromise the faith and vote evil into power.
Posted Wednesday, June 06, 2012 11:21 PM By Abeca Christian
I appreciate Father Shannon Collins, he is an excellent holy priest! I wish we could have him speak at our annual Catholic Convention and wish he would also come to San Diego as well. My husband would of loved to attend this one too, if only we had known, he may have even taken a road trip.
Posted Thursday, June 07, 2012 6:56 AM By MAX
friends, thanks for educating me about the pectoral cross question. also, my comment about the “ligght breakfast” was not to mock the cost of the confverence, but more of a culinary comment about my own desire to start the day with a hearty breakfast, like maybe a side of beef…
Posted Thursday, June 07, 2012 1:02 PM By James
To bad Bishop Fellay isn’t a guest speaker. He would answer your desired topics St. Christopher. All attendees would benefit immensely by learning our Roman Catholic Faith. Most of us don’t have a clue and only a very narrow and thin understanding of our traditional Roman Catholic faith as it hasn’t been past down to us well at all for the last 40 plus years.
Posted Thursday, June 07, 2012 1:28 PM By MacDonald
BISHOP FELLAY AS GUEST SPEAKER??? I SHOULD HOPE NOT…:On July 2, 1988, Pope John Paul II issued the motu proprio Ecclesia Dei, in which he reaffirmed the excommunication, and described the consecration as an act of “disobedience to the Roman pontiff in a very grave matter and of supreme importance for the unity of the Church”, and that “such disobedience — which implies in practice the rejection of the Roman primacy — constitutes a schismatic act”. Cardinal Darío Castrillón Hoyos, head of the commission responsible for implementing Ecclesia Dei, has said this resulted in a “situation of separation, even if it was not a formal schism.” This person was excommunicated from the Roman Catholic Church for being disobedient…who wants to listen to this??? (The current Holy Father listed the excommunication to try to bring these guys home to Rome, but they are still being stubborn as mules, claiming they know better than the Church.)
Posted Thursday, June 07, 2012 3:48 PM By JLS
MAX (aka max), a side of beef for breakfast?!!? Why not rather a slab of bacon? That way you can save the side of beef (are you related to Friar Tuck?) for dinner and quaff it with at least a round of stout ale … or even mead. Or … gamebirds … yeah, now I’m thinking … when will one of these meetings take place during game bird hunting … uh, make that harvesting season?
Posted Thursday, June 07, 2012 3:55 PM By JLS
MAX, if this meeting were only a month later, I’d likely be there in the locale (extended family get together). Also, I may bring some “hardware” because the region is rife with wild hogs, and there is no season on them, and I already have myself a tag for one. “Side of beef”? Heck with that, it could be a side of wild acorn and berry fed pork … not at all like the cellophane wrapped variety. But the bad news is that I’ve never gone after wild pigs before, and it is best to go in a group, as they are dangerous game animals. Gee, what an idea, hunting game animals and supplying “man meetings” or even “family meetings” … maybe for a gasoline stipend, yet: After all, how can one serve God on an empty gas tank?
Posted Saturday, June 09, 2012 5:04 AM By JS
Posted Wednesday, June 06, 2012 11:21 PM By Abeca Christian: I appreciate Father Shannon Collins, he is an excellent holy priest! I wish we could have him speak at our annual Catholic Convention and wish he would also come to San Diego as well. My husband would of loved to attend this one too, if only we had known, he may have even taken a road trip. Abeca Christian, Why don’t you call him up and discuss your conference. If he is able and interested, he may be willing to speak at your conference.
Posted Saturday, June 09, 2012 5:17 AM By JS
James and St. Christopher – Father Isaac Mary Relyea, Father Shannon Collins, C.P.M., and Father Sean Kopczynski, C.P.M. are real men who speak on real men topics. The SSPX does not have the only priests who can speak on tough topics. I am very familiar with these priests and the priests of the SSPX and I can say this without any hesitations. No one who hears these 3 priests speak will ever be dissapointed. These 3 priests know the traditional faith very well and have no problems expressing it and passing it on. They are excellent priest by any standard – even the toughest, most skeptical trad would have trouble fainding fault with them. The only reason I don’t mention Father Peter Carota is I have never heard him speak. Although I have heard he is good, too. If anyone is able to attend this conference, they should!
Posted Saturday, June 09, 2012 3:47 PM By max
JLS at 3:55 PM: have faith! Deus providebit sibi victimam — or, in this case, the gasoline. All your talk about pig hunting has made me hungry for bacon.
Posted Saturday, June 09, 2012 6:08 PM By JLS
max, at first I thought you were posting in “tongues”, and then I realized it must be Latin (translated from Hebrew by St Jerome long ago). The upshot in context means something like “Forget the cost of the fuel, for God will provide the feast”.
Posted Sunday, June 10, 2012 5:18 AM By Sister John
MacDonald…Bishop Fellay is a good and gracious priest. He was NOT ‘excommunicated’ if you do your homework. It is perfectly allowable to attend the SSPX, and the only reason they are ‘under suspicion’ is that unlike other priests, they will NOT accept the ‘vow’ of possibly having to give the “Novus Ordo” which has proven to be the downfall of our Catholic Traditions. If We Were Right Then, We Are Right Now. If We Are Right Now, You Are Wrong Now. WE are not the ‘extraordinary’ Mass. YOU are. We are the “Mass Of All Time”. And no, I am not SSPX. I am a member of a Traditional Community. I am Benedictine. I live, pray, sing and give glory to God in the language of the Church. The language in which our Holy Father, Pope Benedict XVI, presents the Mass. Latin. Is HE wrong? It is the language HE was taught the Mass. It is the ONLY language in which he offers the Mass. The SSPX only want the opportunity to offer the Mass ONLY in Latin. They will accept no less, as well they should not. There are plenty of other priests who will dress as Santa Claus and present the Mass if that is your wish. There are plenty of Masses for you to choose from, from “Country and Western” to “Jazz”. You have YOUR choices, yet you will not allow the SSPX to choose the beautiful reverence of the Tridentine. It stinks of hypocrisy that you would take that away. Is it that you refuse to learn a few Latin responses? The Missal is printed with BOTH languages side by side. You miss nothing. If you can’t or won’t learn the Latin, you can read it in the language of your choice. The priest reads the Epistle and the Gospel in the language of the area, after the Latin. What then is the problem? The priest gives the homily in the language of the area. What then is the problem? .
Posted Sunday, June 10, 2012 1:11 PM By Abeca Christian
max and JLS you two are funny. LOL. Bacon sounds good with my eggs and a cup of fruit. But I never thought of people craving bacon not unless one is pregnant and the cravings just come in due to some lack of nutrient that one may need.
Posted Sunday, June 10, 2012 5:19 PM By Canisius
MacDonald would prefer some pant suited valkrie from Womenpriests than a great Bishop like Fellay, Hey MacD, what are you going to do when SSPX is regularized this summer???
Posted Sunday, June 10, 2012 7:09 PM By max
SISTER JOHN, umm, hate to break it to you, but he and the otherr bishops whom lefevre ateempted to ‘consecrated’ where all excomjmunicated precisely when they took part in this act, in direct violation of the holy father. pope john paul ii was very clear on this, you know. just like those oth3er renegades who attempt to ‘ordain’ women because they, like lefebre, believe they know better than the pope, better than the church, better than god…
Posted Sunday, June 10, 2012 7:09 PM By max
p.s. to ABECA —- i’m not pregant, but still thinking abou tbacon and eggs.
Posted Sunday, June 10, 2012 8:59 PM By JLS
I attended a novus ordo Mass today, one that was reverent and done well. It has been years since the last time I went to a regular novus ordo Mass. What hit me today is the forced interior activities … each one very abbreviated and directed by the priest. This is the way this liturgy functions, unlike the Tridentine liturgy which not only allow for but promotes many orders of magnitude more interior time. Those who have no idea what I’ve talking about … well just stick with your ordinary form because it’ll leave very ordinary. The Church was not build on the ordinary but on the extraordinary (Yes, there is a pun here but it has nothing to do with the context, so ignore it).
Posted Monday, June 11, 2012 12:34 PM By Abeca Christian
don’t forget the cup of fruit max. Fiber is good. haha