The following comes from a November 9 Crux article:
In 2016, most of the polls were wrong, period. And polls predicting that Hillary Clinton would run away with the Catholic vote proved more wishful than accurate.
In the run-up to the election, only the IBD-TIPP poll consistently pointed to a Trump win among Catholics, as CRUX noted last week. Almost all the others suggested a significant margin of victory for Clinton.
Now that the voting is over, however, preliminary results indicate Trump decisively won a majority of those self-identifying as Catholics, by 52 to 45 percent.
By contrast, President Barack Obama won Catholics narrowly, by a margin of 50 to 48 percent, in 2012.
Evangelicals flocked to Trump in far more overwhelming numbers, by a massive 81 to 16 percent.
Out of sight of most media reports, religious concerns also seem to have played an important role in Trump’s win. Whether religious voters were embracing Trump or blocking Clinton, there seems to be a clear political message in the result, which is that people of faith cannot be ignored, disparaged or taken for granted.
Ain’t it amazin’. One never knows what God will do, or whom He will use to secure the exercise of His will. Trump is no Catholic and perhaps no Christian, but he may well be the instrument of God the Almighty in confronting abortion. And where oh where are the Catholic bishops? Where is Cardinal Dolan, or Abp. Cupich, or B. McElroy, or the dozens and hundreds of other weak and faithless men who mince around, demanding concessions, like some slug in a Catholic Alice In Wonderland. Time to “do a Trump” and get rid of these guys, who serve no purpose (some few exceptions) except to enrich themselves by fleecing their congregations, the very ones these feckless men are supposed to lead to Salvation.
“One never knows what God will do, or whom He will use to secure the exercise of His will. Trump is no Catholic and perhaps no Christian, but he may well be the instrument of God the Almighty in confronting abortion.”
It IS amazing, St. Christopher!
Video for Christians: Trump or Clinton? Cyrus or Antiochus?
https://www.truthrevolt.org/news/video-christians-trump-or-clinton-cyrus-or-antiochus
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continued… The biblical character most often named in reference to Donald Trump by Christians making such comparisons has been King David, most notably for his adultery and eventual repentance. The speaker in the video, however, feels King Cyrus the Great would be a more appropriate example.
Though a pagan and a man lacking in serious virtues – he practiced polygamy and held many concubines – Cyrus the Great largely respected ancient Jewish practice and allowed the Israelites to return to their homeland and rebuild the Temple. His leadership protected ancient Israel and gave way to religious tolerance.
I’m saddened to say this, but “Amen!”
Don’t be too hard on them St. Christopher. They all have their own problems. Watchmen is right about praying the Rosary. especially for each state and the world.
silence on catholic values before the election was the hallmark of clergy and bishops. they did not want to seem to interefere with elections and seem to take sides. so now that it’s over, let’s see them do a post-game analysis amd talk about the issues openly and clearly, likes spies and soldiers after wars…. there’s no better time to teach ,govern and sanctify. if not now, when? i think they can name names safely(?) or does the ‘order of silence’ extend to the public arena at all times? do they really think think we are living in china where public discussion of religious – moral areas seem to be always verboten. come on…
As usual, the evangelicals are keeping America alive at the ballot box while we Catholics are in our Dark Ages, trying to repair the massive torpedo holes in the Barque of Peter fired by pirate progressive Catholic submarines.
I keep hearing about these “evangelicals.” Are they simply non-Catholics? Or are they Southern Baptist and related species? Are Catholics and so called establishment “religions” banned from being referred to as evangelicals? And what about Evangelicals (the noun)? Are there such? And if so, who and where are they? If Catholics make up the majority of Christians in the USA, why are they not counted, or courted for that matter? Or is it that the media shuns anything related to the Church? Are they simply the inbetween of liberals and fundamentals?
Did Trump win the Catholic bishop vote? The Catholic priest vote? The Jesuit vote? (I jest.)
Thank God the primadonna, moronic, better than thou, “NeverTrump” Catholics did not win the day!
Let’s all pray that Trump keeps his promise of selecting pro-life judges on the Supreme Court of America. Let’s also pray that Trump protects freedom of religious expression in America. If freedom of religious expression is not protected it could very well lead to a physical persecution of people of faith. The right kind of Supreme court judges can rectify that situation as well. Trump make America Great Again. Pray America Pray!
Looks like the evangelical pastors didn’t “pussy”foot around the issues at stake! They led their flocks, unlike most of the hierarchy of our Church, who were too busy chastising and apologizing for the brave clergy who did speak out about the non-negotiables of our doctrine.
Now it remains to be seen if The Donald will remember who voted him in. On a contrasting note, the youthful demonstrations, some violent, against Trump, are a first. For one, it shows in contrast how secular our youth are — void of religious sensibilities. That is the serious problem facing the Church.
Our lead shepherds have been wishy washy wimpy role models for our Catholic youth. How many bishops are out campaigning for causes that have zero to do with the salvation of souls. Instead of personally visiting schools to show the youth that their souls REALLY do matter, they preach about immigration and solar panels. How many lead shepherds have fallen into the corporate climbing pitiful pit of political correctness before guarding or upholding the faith. The answer is too many.
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Our lead shepherds should take a H-U-G-E clue from the mandate for taking our country back from the abyss. Our youth are capable of hearing the fullness of truth, no different than people were capable of recognizing years of phony politically correct baloney. That’s why Trump was elected. Our lead shepherds have elected to spiritually neglect their primary duty and NOT campaign for the salvation of souls. This is also why Confirmation is being called the sacrament of FAREWELL. A solar panel won’t help you get to heaven but a FAITHFUL, CARING, GOOD LEADING SHEPHERD, surely will.
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If Church Laws (Canon 915) are completely ignored because of political correctness, then souls are at stake. If our nations laws regarding peaceful protesting and the protection of borders are ignored, then chaos takes place. AND speaking of protesters…This is not a first. Ronald Reagan was tested too. This is how Ronald Reagan dealt with violent and destructive demonstrators.
https://youtu.be/B21KMA31hM8
Catherine says that the bishops were campaigning for issues with “Zero to do with the salvation of souls?” Try the abolition of the death penalty. That has a moral weight on the salvation of souls of many people.
I wonder if any Catholic bishops voted for Trump?
Am concerned tht 45% of Catholics are so morally confused. I don’t see how a party whose main sacrament is abortion would ever draw support from a substantial number of Catholics. Contrast this against the born agains who seem to hve their heads screwed on correctly. I think the explanation is tht most Catholic parish priests fail to instruct on basic moral precepts.and as a result many Catholics have a poor understanding of scripture.
Dan it would not surprise me if these protests have all been staged to try and intimidate President Elect Donald Trump for carrying out his mandate to appoint more pro-life judges on the Supreme Court. Pray that Trump has the courage and conviction to change America from promoting the culture of death to promoting the culture of life. Pray America Pray!
A more pertinent question to ask, rather than how many bishops voted for Trump, is: how many Catholics voted against the expressed Magisterial teaching of the Church to vote against the death penalty. To dissent against the Pope and the rest of the Magisterium is always sinful. To dissent against the clear teaching on the death penalty is sinful, a venial sin in fact. This is proven in the CDF document “Worthiness To Receive” when Ratzinger taught that because this issue is not of the same degree as abortion, politicians may still receive communion. So folks, if you voted against Prop. 62, check your conscience.
So jon,
Hers’s a simple question: Did you vote for Clinton or Trump? If you don’t want to answer, fine, just say so but spare us the BS.
Right. If I voted against the teachings of the Church in the presidential elections concerning abortion, I wouldn’t have the moral authority nor the cheek, to call out folks here for their dissenting vote.
As expected… BS.
Jon you misunderstand, you have no authority to call out anyone on this site no matter who you voted for.
Ok Bohemond, explain why not.
I did not vote for Trump, I voted against Clinton.
Trump has discernment….
Or at lease he happens to be casually aligned with it. If you have not noticed the negative powers attached to this influx of Mexicans, maybe you should ask Our Lady for guidance. I don’t know what they are up to, but it is not good.
I find the number 52% too high. My local Novus Ordo mass is 99% Commie. My extraordinary congregation votes the other way but we are few.
Gratias, your comment is out of order and, well, just as bad as many of the comments during the political campaign. No person of substantial intelligence would make a comment like “my local Novus Ordo mass is 99% commie.” How do you know that and what do you consider a commie. Sounds like you are too young to remember what “commie” stands for and how it is an expletive that is way out of bounds. Your parish may have a lot of liberals in it, but that doesn’t make them commies. Shame on you. Enough with the garbage already!
The election was rigged! Our President-elect has admitted as much. Russia and the FBI hacked the system.