President Trump on Wednesday tweeted that he was honored by a letter written to him by former apostolic nuncio Archbishop Carlo Viganò, which warned the president against secular and ecclesiastical agents of an atheistic globalist new world order.
The president’s tweet is the latest in a series of events that have kept the archbishop in the headlines for much of the last two years, a period in which he has become a polarizing figure in the Catholic Church, and morphed in the public eye from a whistleblowing diplomat to a prognosticator of impending doom amid a spiritual and political battle for world domination.
“So honored by Archbishop Viganò’s incredible letter to me.
Trump tweeted June 10, linking to Vigano’s recent open letter addressed to the president.
So honored by Archbishop Viganò’s incredible letter to me. I hope everyone, religious or not, reads it!
…. The June 6 letter said “it appears that the children of darkness – whom we may easily identify with the deep state which you wisely oppose and which is fiercely waging war against you in these days – have decided to show their cards, so to speak, by now revealing their plans.”
“They seem to be so certain of already having everything under control that they have laid aside that circumspection that until now had at least partially concealed their true intentions,” Vigano wrote….
The archbishop praised Trump, claiming that “both of us are on the same side in this battle, albeit with different weapons,” and adding that criticism of Trump’s June 2 visit to the National Shrine of St. John Paul II is part of an “orchestrated media narrative” against the president.
The above comes from a June 11 story posted by the Catholic News Agency.
Vigano and Trump, what a powerhouse team! God Bless them both!!
vigano should go away quietly and stay out of politics
Isn’t that what Pope Benedict had McCarrick do (before Pope Francis brought McCarrick back to public life and sent him jet setting to negotiate with the Communist Chinese)?
Good thing we have a Pope who stays out of politics?!
Speaking of the Pope, when is that McCarrick report going to be made public “soon?”
Tell us why, YFC. that AB Vigano (that’s spelled with a capital V) should go away. Does he make you uncomfortable? And why would that be? C’mon and tell us plainly.
Mmmm…so should Pope Francis and Wilton Gregory.
Agreed
Please, God, grant us more Viganos!
Agreed!
Amen!
Another vote here for more Viganos! I have different thoughts on who should go away quietly, but I will try to be charitable and not name names.
Not a Mellow Catholic , the time for charity is done , look at the abuses and lack of respect for the laity , name them loudly , mccarrick , mahoney, weurl , etc went unnamed too long , and in the shadows did the most damage.
This is a classic Trump move. Cultivate foreign interference in the presidential election. Vigano can state his personal opinion about Trump but remember it is not the official position of the Catholic Church. I am firmly convinced Satan is active in the current republican leadership of our country.
To paraphrase Archbishop Vigano’s fine words, you William Robert, are suffering from “an infernal deception”. Your politics are you own and you may wallow in them as you like, but when a Catholic Archbishop of international standing communicates his thoughts to an American President, it is something to respectfully consider. Wonderful that President Trump tweeted it so that millions may also enjoy the wisdom of a faithful Catholic leader!
Are you a Catholic, Willie Bob?
probably on the Biden Pelosi Cuomo Kennedy spectrum
Larry, I have no idea who William Robert is, but your “Willie Bob” is a perfect example of what is wrong with our country today – no respect for anyone or any one’s opinion. Maybe we need to get back to Mr. and Mrs. again. You could have asked the question with the snarky name, don’t you agree?
“I am firmly convinced Satan is active in the current republican leadership of our country.”
Talk about calling good evil and evil good. Let’s see what do the saintly Democrats stand for,,,abortion, infanticide, sodomy, BLM & Antifa, terrorists groups and almost forgo…t keeping blacks down on their plantation.
You should take a closer look at the Democratic Party that’s so thrilled about killing born babies they lit up Manhattan with pink lights to replicate the blood. Sure sounds demonic to me.
Oh how strange, WR. AB Vigano initiated the exchange, and Trump thanks him for it. What was he supposed to do? Scold AB Vigano for interfering in American politics? Pope Francis has made known his contempt of Trump. Did you in turn scold P. Francis for interfering in American politics? Tell us plainly, WB, what Trump should have done to pass muster in your eyes. And while we’re on it, what lathers you up more– AB Vigano’s perspective on the condition of humanity or Trump’s thankfulness for AB Vigano’s initiative? Again, tell us plainly.
It is safe to assume Satan is active in political leadership. That is a given. The question is where is he more successful, within the Democrat or Republican party? Of course the evil one may just be a BFF of some in the Catholic Church as well.
Robert William, Satan is indeed active not just in the Republican leadership, but in the entire world. Perhaps you haven’t noticed that “catholic” democrat Nancy Pelosi supports abortion. If that isn’t Satanic, I don’t know what is.
I agree, we need more of this issue out there!
People, what has made Vigano’s letter to the POTUS out-of-order, looney, totally wrong, and even demonic (if we can call it that) is, among other things, its dive into the heretical because of its denunciations of the Second Vatican Council. And look, people from the beloved SSPX seem to have flocked to him (or he to them) by signing his letter. The “demolition of the ministerial priesthood” and “the demythologization of the Papacy” are attributable to the Council’s documents? Really? Where? He has fallen into the orbit of the “black hole” that is the beloved SSPX. Lord have mercy on them.
Hey jon, today is the Feast of Corpus Christi, Flag Day, and President Trump’s birthday – a fantastic trifecta, enjoy!
” out-of-order, looney, totally wrong, and even demonic …” I have only one question, jon. Is Vigano correct? Is his assessment of the world scene accurate? There is too much riding on the answer to that question for it to be ignored. One does not have to fall into the SSPX camp to answer that question along the lines of AB Vigano. Even Paul VI moaned that the smoke of Satan had entered the Church. Was therefore Paul VI ” out-of-order, looney, totally wrong, and even demonic ?” I await your response.
Dan, please. When Pope St. Paul VI wrote about the “smoke of Satan,” he most definitely was NOT speaking about the documents of the Second Vatican Council.
jon, I agree with you. It was the implementation of the “spirit if VII” that he was referring to, if (and that’s a big if) my understanding is correct. The grey area, as a subject of discussion, is how much the documents themselves provided the impetus for a distorted implementation of these self-same documents. I have heard it argued that such is indeed the case, but am not ready to cite chapter and verse.
jon where is your respect for this “anointed shepard of the church ” ? what happen to praying for him and writing a letter to him as you have stated for gregory ?. Again what does the SSPX have to do with this other then as an excuse for you to denigrate them ?, the ridicule and mockery that you have condemned in the past again is prominent in your posts. I hope i am not being impertinent .
Rich W., you should remember that denouncing the solemn teachings of an Ecumenical Council is heretical. And this is what Vigano has done, proven by the contents of his letter. You should be criticizing his heresy, not me. And what makes you think I do not pray for Vigano? Plus, the beloved SSPX is being denigrated by the Devil who continues to lure them into disobedience. There is so much denigration in disobedience, sin, contempt for the Church, and disloyalty. So much. So, Rick W., it will benefit you to think according to the mind of the Church, not against it.
“…no human being can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison. With it we bless the Lord and Father, and with it we curse human beings who are made in the likeness of God.”
“…wisdom from above is first of all pure, then peaceable, gentle, compliant, full of mercy and good fruits, without inconstancy or insincerity. And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace for those who cultivate peace.”
James 3:8-9, 17-18
Vigano should come out of hiding and face the music at the Vatican. Cowardly to hide and pen letters like he’s more important than the pope, who is Francis, by the way, for all those deluded people here who think Benedict is still the pope. But Vigano is just making a name for himself by throwing red meat such as this letter to traddies.
Corey, and Archbishop Gregory’s motives for his political stunts are as pure as the wind-driven snow?! AB Gregory does not want to make a name for himself and be made a Cardinal?! Certainly letting infanticide-promoting Pelosi preach in his cathedral is a sign of that. (?!)
Why didn’t McCarrick have to “face the music at the Vatican?!” That predator pervert prelate was taken out of exile and promoted by the current Vatican regime!
There is a clear double-standard in the way bishops are treated. Those more known for their orthodoxy, like Muller, Chaput and Pell are readily dismissed while dissenters like Cupich, Tobin, Gregory and Stowe are promoted. I don’t like Vigano writing from a secret safe house, but, it is understandable.
Corey, you raise an interesting question in my mind: what music is AB Vigano to face? He has the goods on a lot of rotten apples in the hierarchy– is this the reason P. Francis hasn’t lowered the boom on him yet? I don’t know. Also, why is he in hiding? Does he know things about retribution curial style that we don’t?I don’t know. Another thought comes to mind: I have no doubt Francis is pope. But why then does Benedict strut around in papal clothes and reside in the Vatican? That seems disproportionate, given that he relinquished the office. Why is he not back in Germany, or somewhere else of his choosing? I don’t know anything about this either.
Trump haters and self-loathing Catholics are the only ones upset by this letter. That tells us all we need to know.
All Catholics are supposed to be self-loathing.
YFC, vigano ” should go away quietly and stay out of politics’ I think he is practicing his first amendment rights ,his freedom of speech, exercising his moral voice, he is doing so in a peaceful manner .
YFC, Vigano ” should go away quietly and stay out of politics’ I think he is practicing his first amendment rights ,his freedom of speech, exercising his moral voice, he is doing so in a peaceful manner . Viva Viagano !
jon , I never said that you do not pray for Vigano, I asked what happened to your standard of respect as it applied to gregory. You know the devils machination’s how exactly ? if you are a mystic reveal your identity, I don’t throw around accusations of heresy , aside from your opinion what authority do you claim to make such accusations ? my reading of heretical accusations is that the church itself does it, not a poster on sites like this .I do my best to use reason and facts in my statements not to incite emotions . If he is a heretic the church , not jon is the authority to determine this. “There is so much denigration in disobedience, sin, contempt for the Church, and disloyalty.” yes, and I see it coming from bishops , priests and some laity , so I fallow the “mind of the church ” in the best way I can with reason and equanimity. Your tone and disrespect for certain organizations as well your fellow posters speaks to your ego ,hubris and character.
The disobedience of the SSPX is flagrant, open, and brazen. To speak that truth is not ego or hubris. The truth hurts, Rick W., so if you’re a fan of the SSPX one can understand your being upset.