The following comes from a Jan. 6 report from our San Francisco correspondent.
The January 1, 2015 issue of the Bay Area Reporter, San Francisco’s newspaper “serving the gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender communities since 1971,” carried a full-page advertisement from Equality California announcing a “town hall meeting” to “learn about EQCA’S expanded mission that advances equality, in and outside California and improves the health and well-being of LGBT Californians…” The January 22 meeting will be hosted by San Francisco’s notorious Most Holy Redeemer Church.
Equality California is the most prominent advocate of gay rights in the state of California. The History and Leadership section of Equality’s Wikipedia page reports that it began in 1998 as the California Alliance for Pride and Equality. The section continues: “In 2004, EQCA merged with a similar organization working on LGBT rights called Marriage Equality California in order to better coordinate efforts to pass marriage equality legislation in California.”
The Wikipedia page continues “[Equality California] has sponsored and helped lobby for the passage of 96 bills supporting lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender rights in the California Legislature, including the nation’s first same-sex marriage bill approved by a legislative body (AB 849, the Religious Freedom and Civil Marriage Protection Act, authored by Assembly member Mark Leno, D-San Francisco). On behalf of its members, Equality California was the organizational plaintiff in a lawsuit filed by the National Center for Lesbian Rights, American Civil Liberties Union, Lambda Legal and several law firms challenging California’s marriage laws that exclude same-sex couples. The California Supreme Court on May 15, 2008 ruled that all Californians have the freedom to marry. The landmark decision ended the state ban on marriage for same-gender couples. Same-gender couples were able to marry as of June 16, 2008.”
That decision was quickly followed by California’s successful Proposition 8. Wikipedia notes that Equality California was “a founding member of Equality for All” which opposed Proposition 8 and was “one of the campaign’s significant contributors.”
When Pope Francis (then Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio of Buenos Aires and Primate of Argentina) was confronted by an Argentine version of the group in 2010, he said: “At stake is the identity and survival of the family: father, mother and children. At stake are the lives of many children who will be discriminated against in advance, and deprived of their human development given by a father and a mother and willed by God. At stake is the total rejection of God’s law engraved in our hearts….Let us not be naive: this is not simply a political struggle, but it is an attempt to destroy God’s plan. It is not just a bill (a mere instrument) but a ‘move’ of the father of lies who seeks to confuse and deceive the children of God.”
Ironically, the Ordinary of the archdiocese of San Francisco, of which Most Holy Redeemer is a subject church, Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone, serves as the head of the United States Council of Catholic Bishops subcommittee for the Promotion and Defense of Marriage, and was instrumental in the passage of Proposition 8.
It is not the first time Most Holy Redeemer has stuck its thumb in Cordileone’s eye — just as it did to Archbishops Niederauer and Levada before him. One recent example occurred on March 26, 2013 when the archbishop spoke in defense of marriage at a rally in Washington DC. As CalCatholic reported at the time, “A scant two hours before, Ms. (Mary Kay) Henry, in the exact same spot, had been addressing a crowd in support of the redefinition of marriage–precisely the opposite message.” The openly homosexual Ms. Henry, who is the international president of the Service Employees International Union, is a parishioner of Most Holy Redeemer, and, in 2007, was listed as one of the church’s lectors on the parish webpage.
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“It is not the first time Most Holy Redeemer has stuck its thumb in Cordileone’s eye — just as it did to Archbishops Niederaue”? It was Nieheraue who gave Holy Communion to the sisters of perpetual indulgence at the MHR on the very day this picture was taken on Oct. 7, 2007.
Good point. Why would a picture taken seven years ago – a picture that is atypical of the parishioners at Most Holy Redeemer – be used as the cover photo with a caption implying that they are everyday parishioners. In fact, the oddness of their appearance at mass is what helped make the news on this very website.
These sodomite minions of Satan won’t stop until they get “equal rights” to the underage boys of others. Does anyone really think these vile filthy perverts give a fig about “marriage”? Of course not. Being allowed “marriage” is just a necessary first step to acquiring “equal rights” to what married couples have: boys. The argument will be that they can’t be truly and fully “married” unless they have what heterosexual couples have: boys.
http://www.tinyurl.com/HomoAbusers
LOL! Who’d da thunk it?
peter I know you think its funny because perhaps you do not have those sexual issues on children but juergensen is correct. I don’t know if you lived a sheltered life, that you do not know of how that world is or your just trying to fool us here. I like juergensen’s posts, he posts facts on pedophiles better than most I know in today’s culture. It is refreshing because I remember when Dr. Laura tried warning parents and the world through her talk radio show. She also stated facts about how the psychology medical board was turning crooked. She is a doctor, she only stated facts, I know juergensen puts in his style but he still points out the facts.
Remember peter when you told me that you had a bridge for sale…..here is my answer to you:
The only bridge I want is the one that leads to Christ and that one is not for sale. God bless you and I again add you in my prayers.
Thanks, Abeca, but what Juerg incessantly posts is hate propaganda promulgated by the AFA, a well-known hate group. The AFA is in the business of lies; it’s what they do and the sole purpose of their existence. Such a focused obsession with homosexuals is what I find laughable – pitiable, but laughable. I mean really, who has the time or the energy if not for a maliciously fueled, mean-spirited agenda? Why this web-site continues to indulge this – gluttony, no? – I have no idea. But I believe you are sincere in describing your experiences and wish you well on your spiritual journey; but please, catering to these polluted influences is uncharitable at best, and certainly not conducive to building bridges that will endure.
Hey Cal Catholic, why pester your readers with the trash from San Francisco’s newspaper of perversion? Looking for lots of snappy comments, are you? Shame on you!
The meeting will be hosted by San Francisco’s notorious Most Holy Redeemer Church !
Contact Abp Cordileone’s office immediately with a link to this article.
info@sfarchdiocese.org
Promoting any lifestyle of Mortal Sin is an abomination.
Teaching about homosexual acts from Sacred Scripture which is the speech of God in entirety (CCC 81)
Gen 19:1-29; Rom 1:24-27; 1 Cor 6:10; 1 Tim 1:10; Jude 1:7;
and
CCC: 2357, 2358, 2359, and 2396.
St Paul – 1 Cor 11:27-30 about condemnation for receiving Holy Communion unworthily.
Thanks ABBY God bless you.
” LETTER TO THE BISHOPS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
ON THE PASTORAL CARE OF HOMOSEXUAL PERSONS ”
” 15. We encourage the Bishops, then, to provide pastoral care in full accord with the teaching of the Church for homosexual persons of their dioceses.
No authentic pastoral programme will include organizations in which homosexual persons associate with each other without clearly stating that homosexual activity is immoral.
A truly pastoral approach will appreciate the need for homosexual persons to avoid the near occasions of sin. ”
https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19861001_homosexual-persons_en.html
The infamous Most Holy Redeemer church should have been on a San Francisco Archbishop’s “Closed Churches” list, a long time ago!
Cardinal Burke’s comments on homos in the Church, from recent interview:
“We can also see that our seminaries are beginning to attract many strong young men who desire to serve God as priests. The new crop of young men are manly and confident about their identity. This is a welcome development, for there was a period of time when men who were FEMINIZED and confused about their own sexual identity had entered the priesthood; sadly some of these DISORDERED [HOMOSEXUAL] men sexually abused minors [BOYS], a terrible tragedy for which the Church mourns.”
Pope Benedict XVI wisely called them “filth”.
juergensen, Thank you for posting Cardinal Burke’s comments. The video that is linked below shows that there already is an abnormal abundance of tenderizing taking place in our different churches and not just MHR. This video is evidence that the smoke of satan has entered the sanctuary in order to force the faithful to marinate in more filth. How pleased the devil must be to see the continuous mocking of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Remove those tabernacles from the most prominent location…..remove this once beautiful altars and replace them with an ugly concrete table, remove those communion rails and kneelers……remove that kneeling at different parts of the Mass. This is why many Catholics left when they tried to completely suppress the TLM. It is very rare and usually at early weekday Mass, where the faithful who attend the NO do not have to endure the many liturgical abuses that Pope Benedict XVI addressed in the Spirit of the Liturgy. Many pastors completely ignore those abuses. We’ve been “tenderized” to the gills and this is why Our Lady of Akita warned us about churches and altars being sacked.
Taken from Father Z’s blog
← WARNING! If you suffer from Burke Derangement Syndrome™, DO NOT READ
VIDEO: How long can you stand it?
Posted on 8 January 2015 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf
A priest friend of mine posted this elsewhere with the challenge… can you make it to the end of this video? How long can you stand it before you click off?
https://wdtprs.com/blog/2015/01/video-how-long-can-you-stand-it/?tun_source=feedburner
“This is why many Catholics left when they tried to completely suppress the TLM. ”
Lord, where would we go?
…where the Body of the Lord resides and where He is treated with due reverence and adoration, mous.
You glamorize evil.
The Lord Jesus Christ, really present in the Most Holy Eucharist is worshiped and adored and revered in the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.
When the soldiers nailed Jesus to the Cross, his limbs where distended to the point that every bone was pulled from it’s joint. What pain to the Body of Christ!
Glamorize? Good grief.
Amen to that Anonymous. Praise be Jesus Christ.
“The Lord Jesus Christ, really present in the Most Holy Eucharist is worshiped and adored and revered in the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.” = If you truly believe this then you would not remain silent and cooperate in your silence with the sins of omission when Jesus Christ really present is disrespected and hidden in dark “broom closets “or not placed in the Most Prominent Place at Christ Cathedral when this could have been required to begin with.
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Please click the link to St. Catherine of Siena Laguna Beach and the photo will start to give a tour. Bishop Vann has visited St. Catherine’s. Is Our Lord still hidden in a two seat broom closet? Sacra-forma ex priest Rod Stephens was assigned to this plum location parish before the laity spoke out and informed Bishop Brown that they knew about his real living arrangements. Anonymous without the laity speaking out, then even more altars and churches (such as St. Hedwigs) would be sacked by Sacra-forma or as some referred to it as Sacra-Deforma.
http://www.stcathchurch.org/
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continued from January 13, 2015 at 11:55 am
Everyone tries to remove the responsibility of the poor selection of Christ Cathedral back on to Bishop Tod D. Brown. It is true that Bishop Tod D. Brown chose this real estate deal that is masquerading as a Catholic Cathedral and he also tried to suppress the TLM, he personally yelled at Catholics for kneeling, he removed kneeling after the Agnus Dei. He also ordered all new construction wreckovations to basically hide the Tabernacles in back areas or side areas when not necessary at all. He also ordered a couple to sign a secret oath to hide the “living arrangements” of Sacra-Forma ex priest Rod Stephens. The priest sent by Bishop Brown to cooperate in getting the couple to sign this oath to this evil was then rewarded and made a monsignor in cooperation for his deed and silence. Stop hiding evil anonymous.
Now enters Bishop Kevin Vann who NOW has all the authority as the new bishop to DO THE MOST RESPECTFUL THING FOR CHRIST.
I found Bishop Vann’s opening day talk posted below on ‘Dallas area Catholic blog’ two days ago. It is very informative. Bishop Vann was initially rewarded for his silence in Illinois and then made the Bishop of Fort Worth, Texas.
continued from January 13, 2015 at 11:55 am
Stephen Brady of Roman Catholic faithful said that Father Kevin Vann did nothing to help those who were crying out for help regarding the homosexual problems in Illinois. Father Vann was then rewarded for his silence and made a monsignor and then quickly made a bishop in Fort Worth. Then look before you know it he is now the Bishop of Orange and then we have a Pope that retires after Vatileaks.
“It is far better for scandals to arise than for the truth to be suppressed.”
Pope St. Gregory
Anonymous. Grave sins of omission are as great as grave sins of commission. Could you please write one single post encouraging Bishop Vann to remove the tabernacles from the “broom closets” and to take the new 20 million that he was just given and place Our Lord in the Most Prominent Position at Christ Cathedral so that even the visiting Protestants can see that our new bishop believes in the Real Presence more than they do. Otherwise you are cooperating in this blatant public show of disrespect. It does not matter how many sleeping sheep, unsuspecting sheep or deliberately uncatechized sheep there are. THIS IS WRONG!
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continued from January 13, 2015 at 11:55 am
Taken from Whispers in the Loggia blog
The Appointment Day press conference in Orange slated to begin at this hour, here’s Bishop Kevin Vann’s opening statement on his selection to lead the 1.3 million-member California diocese (emphases original): “Dear members of the media present today, and all who are here. I am very grateful for your presence and for your welcome. I especially thank Bishop Brown and [vicar-general] Msgr. [Michael] Heher for their wonderful welcome. Bishop Brown and I have known each other for 31 years. He was a priest on the sabbatical program at the North American College in Rome, and I was a newly ordained priest studying canon law. We were in residence at the Casa Santa Maria of the North American College at the time. And, in the same residence, Msgr. Heher and I were studying together during the same time period. When we were younger (!) priests!! And, [auxiliary] Bishop Dominic [Luong] and I have known each other for several years, and he was my guest in Fort Worth last December when we dedicated the new Church of Vietnamese Martyrs in Arlington, Texas, one of the biggest Vietnamese parishes here in the United States. So it is a blessing for me to be with you all here and see familiar faces.”
https://whispersintheloggia.blogspot.com/2012/09/from-orange-first-word.html
All it takes is one phone call to the MHR pastor to stop this evil. Abp. Cordileone has complete and total power here, make no mistake. He certainly must be aware of what is going on, and he is alone responsible if this desecration takes place on the Holy ground of a SF Catholic Church.
The only way to stop the mortal sin of homosexual sex is to confront it; dialog is not needed, and defeats the main message: homosexual sex is a mortal sin, each and every time it is voluntarily committed.
Archbishop Cordileone is an improvement over prior ordinaries in San Francisco. However, he is enigmatic, too, flirting with Tradition, but being pretty much a corporate man, happy to march to the Vatican and to the Zombie-Liberal crazies that now pretty much run the Church. It is good that he sits down with homosexuals at MHR and has lunch with them; all in keeping with his role. But, what does the Archbishop stand for? Is he strong in his Faith; it is uncertain.
Often, little events, a meeting, a single speech, can set the tone for change. Abp. Cordileone needs to stand up, as a Man, as a Leader, as a True Shepherd, and stop this monstrous evil. No more delay. This one’s for You, Excellency, just say “No”.
If you personally did not contact the Archbishop, how do you know he knows everything that goes on in a Diocese as large as San Francisco ?
Did you contact him, St. Christopher to make certain that he is aware of this?
Did you tell him your opinion on the matter ? When?
It is tiring to see your constant complaining and lumping in the good Bishops with the bad.
Then don’t read this particular blog, “Anna” which is not intended, in any event, for apologists of the Zombie-Liberal leadership now largely steering the Church. You and your pals are always whining about someone being “mean” or asking someone to “prove” this or that — you disprove it. You call the Archbishop if you are so curious.
It is likely that this blogsite is viewed by the Archdiocese office, as they usually have a clip service, or task someone to check out what people are saying about them. Your objection is silly and meant only to demean and to try to keep people from thinking about the issue. For those that care, the words said here are sufficient; for those that do not care, nothing ever said will be convincing.
The Archbishop certainly knows what is going on at MHR and about this meeting. Whether Abp. Cordileone does something about it is the issue.
But there is another issue to you, isn’t there? Something about not objecting at all to this sort of thing happening on Catholic Church property — is that correct? Do you object? Do you think that His Excellency should put a stop to this meeting of Satan’s Children?
St. Christopher, are you
1) refusing to do your duty to contact a Bishop’s Office for the good of the Church,
or
2) trying to discourage others from doing their duty in contacting a Bishop’s office ?
When you have knowledge of abuses or evil (that you write about), you are required to contact the appropriate Bishop.
CCC: ” 907 In accord with the knowledge, competence, and preeminence which they possess, [lay people] have the right and even at times a duty
to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters which pertain to the good of the Church,
and they have a right to make their opinion known to the other Christian faithful,
with due regard to the integrity of faith and morals and reverence toward their pastors, and with consideration for the common good and the dignity of persons. “
At some point, pretending that those in charge just don’t know what is going on becomes a testimony to gross negligence and/or incompetence to do one’s job, Maddie. If you don’t believe the chancery offices are paying close attention to what is going on, think again. The let-it-slide-approach is a management style, rife with collateral damage/risk – kind of like bluffing a hand in poker.
The idea of letter writing until the higher ups get sick of it is really just a means of letting leadership know that the underlings are not going to take it anymore – not to ‘let them know what is happening’.
Fear, uncertainty and doubt (FUD) is a tactic used in sales, marketing, public relations, politics and propaganda.
FUD is generally a strategic attempt to influence perception by disseminating negative and dubious or false information… FUD is a manifestation of the appeal to fear.
wikipedia
St. Christopher, you refused to answer the questions. Why?
” If you personally did not contact the Archbishop, how do you know he knows everything that goes on in a Diocese as large as San Francisco ?
Did you contact him, St. Christopher to make certain that he is aware of this?
Did you tell him your opinion on the matter ? When?
It is tiring to see your constant complaining and lumping in the good Bishops with the bad. “
This insistence that writing a letter will automatically make that which is evil stop is naive.
In what way is he an improvement?
Archbishop Cordileone might attend—so that he can be “tenderized” as he was before.
Catherine, Homosexual ACTS are mortal sins.
Same sex attraction is not.
Those with temptations of same sex attraction can get to Heaven, and have just as much right as you to Mass and the Sacraments.
CCC: ” 2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity.
By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection. ”
CCC: ” 2396 Among the sins gravely contrary to chastity are masturbation, fornication, pornography, and HOMOSEXUAL PRACTICES.”
Also CCC: 2357, 2358; and related footnotes :Gen 19:1-29; Rom 1:24-27;
1 Cor 6:10; 1 Tim 1:10; Jude 1:7.
Anna, Anna,
I have never once written that same sex attraction is a mortal sin. I have never once written that those who have same sex attraction cannot get to Heaven. I have never said that those who have same sex attraction do not have as much right to go to Mass and the Sacraments. But you already knew that Anna.
Anna, As challenging and difficult as it may be for you, please follow the courageous example of John Siple who posted above in Facebook.
John Siple · Top Commenter
Queers like me have very little in common with queers like such shameless folk at MHR. I surrendered my gay activity when I rediscovered Our Father’s love. SHAME SHAME SHAME for using the Church of Christ to promote anything BUT chastity.
Hello! Is Archbishop Cordileone at home? Does he know what’s is going on in his Archdiocese? Does he care? I had such hope that Achb. Cordileone would clean up the filth in the Bay Area. Silly me.
Sarah, if you called the Diocese you would know the answers to your questions.
Yes, silly you. By asking us, you got the wrong number and complained to the wrong people.
Spend your time contacting the Archbishop.
Anna, you are obviously either a new reader here or just in utter naive denial. This is the same Archbishop who acknowledged in his own diocesean newspaper that Catholic Charities East Bay was paying for contraception while he was Bishop of Oakland. Even in cases when he publicly acknowledges his grave errors, he does nothing.
People who deflect the misbehavior of bishops here typically use one of two defenses: “Ohhh…he just must not know” or “Be patient, it takes so long to make changes”. I’ve personally written numerous registered letters to Abp. Cordileone and have yet to ever receive one reply. Look to Bp. Barber as an example how quickly change can come if a bishop is motivated–in a place where Abp. Cordileone had no impact.
The past does not matter, all Catholics have a DUTY to contact the appropriate Diocese Bishop’s Office when they know of issues that pertain to the good of the Church.
Do not try to make excuses. Your duty does not change, just because you see no immediate improvements.
Your desire to discourage others from contacting any Bishop’s office violates Church teaching.
Dave N., unfortunately one or two persons writing may not be enough to get the Bishop’s attention from his busy schedule.
(Sometimes even Staff members censor the Bishop’s mail. But they can not hide volume.)
Continue doing your duty in writing to the Bishop for the good of the Church.
Encourage others to help you, rather than discouraging them from doing their duty.
Going to the expense of a registered letter is not required, since a staff person will almost always sign for it anyway.
For everyone, in addition to stating the abuse or issue, it is very helpful to:
quote the Bible including the verse #,
and or CCC including paragraph #,
GIRM, or Code of Canon Law as appropriate.
The CCC, GIRM, and Code of Canon Law can be found on the Vatican web site.
I see you’ve jumped on the “poor bishop just doesn’t know” bandwagon of delusion.
It constantly amazes me, Dave, how the sheep are led to believe that the Shepherds are just ignorant as, well-sheep-after how many years of seminary and advanced education in Rome etc? Good grief. Put that kind of incompetence and ostrich head diving on the face of someone managing your financial portfolio and they’d be fired even with the Princeton degree. But mother-bears just need to protect the whole world in snuggly hugs like commercials on TV and then we can all smile to the music.
Your opinion of the Catholic faithful is, like usual, degrading and insulting.
…your perpetuating the notion that one has to behave foolishly or deny reality to be Faithful is insulting. And it is no evangelization tool, to be sure. Catholics are not called to be smiling idiots, but Soldiers of Christ…a Church Militant. That’s not the hug squad. So you may want to reassess what Catholics are truly called to be instead of drowning in your own fluff. Perhaps assessing reality will make you feel less degraded and insulted, but rather wake you up.
Anonymous-crowd reply to Ann Malley doesn’t address any facts.
Anselm there is a history which does address. Your comment is the real problem because you have no clue what you are talking about. Unless you are a heretic or schismatic then im not surprised by your comment. You are anonymous too.
Thanks for advertising what you’re all about, dear Abeca. You do nothing but outline with every post the problems within the Church, much like YFC. Blind negation of reality won’t make it go away – or the erroneous name calling.
At least Anselm has the capacity to read.
How do you know Archbishop Cordileone didn’t sign off on the meeting before the ad was published? Besides, the purpose of the meeting is the equality and health of LGBT Californians. Who here thinks LGBT Californians should be second class citizens or subjected to inferior health?
Afraid not YFC….The purpose is to advance the same-sex disordered agenda. Normalizing what is disordered is the goal. Nothing more. Everyone deserves respect based on their inherent dignity as a child of God not based on their sexual confusion and sin.
If Abp. Cordileone did, “Your Fellow Catholic”, then he would need to immediately resign his position. No bishop can foster anything to do with the LGBT “community” except welcome them to communion, teach them why it is necessary that they come, and then, if they do, then provide them with communion.
LGBT people can find out all the “health” related stuff that they need from the State (particularly in CA). But that is not your issue anyway, is it “YFC”? You want to use the guise of “health” to inject the evil of homosexual sex into the Catholic Church. And “equality” too. What does that mean, and why is it the concern of the Catholic Church, that rejects all homosexual sex as a mortal sin?
No, the Abp. must point to the door and say “leave”. The LGBT folks can find “equality” and “health” down the street, say with the Episcopalians or any of the pagan State offices. People cannot demand respect while they sodomize each other, willingly and with full knowledge that the Church forbids their sexual relationships and the argument about marriage (as well as the vile notion of adopting children). Time to Abp. Cordileone to man-up and bare the door of the Church to unrepentant catamites.
Sorry, an erratum correction is necessary: Para. 1, line 3, last word, change “communion” to “confession”.
Regrets.
Equality California is doing a lot of work helping LGBT people and I believe Spanish speaking people sign up for health care, so actually they care about health, and so do I. This is no guise
Fine, pursue your interests, but do so outside of the Catholic Church. You soil the Church by trying, incessantly, to link anything homosexual with God’s creation on this Earth.
There is no possible connection, and never can be, with assisting anything to do with the LGBT crowd, except to get individuals to confession. To those who are same-sex attracted, stay away from any LGBT group. Find yourself a Traditional priest, or at least a Faithful one in the present Church, and confess your sins to them. Being around fellow practicing LGBT people will only confuse and lead to possible damnation.
You need to be careful, “YFC” that you do not mislead one of God’s creations to continue in their mortally sinful ways. Counsel them only to remove themselves from that culture. They can find health care apart from programs that serve more to reinforce their nature than help lead them out of it.
St. Christopher, the Pope himself (Saint John Paul II) said himself the gay people are in the busom of the catholic church. Archbishop Cordileone has said that being at MHR amidst the LGBT people “tenderizes” him. And there have been pastoral letter after pastoral letter, documents from the vatican as well as the Catechism itself that admonishes that gay people are to be treated with respect and dignity, and that all violence and unjust discrimination against them should cease. When have you ever once talked about these teachings of the Church, or admonished Your Fellow Catholics to obey them?
Once again, excellent post St. Christopher!
EQCA “improves the health and well-being of LGBT Californians…” To improve health stop unnatural penetrations and AIDS will almost disappear. Sexual perversion is dangerous to your health.
“Your Fellow Catholic”: Again, you purposefully ignore what the article and posts say, and what the Church teaches. The point here is to avoid letting homosexuals that have sex with each other believe that it is ever OK, in any way, with the Church, with God.
All the claptrap about “respect” and that like is thrown up by homosexuals all the time. Why is that? In an effort to say that the Church insists that no one can critize homosexuals for their “normal” behavior. In fact, this is not what the Church teaches.
Homosexual sex is a mortal sin and will get you to Hell. This is what the Catholic Church teaches. Too much chumminess with homosexuals that are practicing sexual license suggest that, “hey, it’s OK; you are a child of God and He made you so what you do is OK, blah, blah, blah. . .”
Instead, the homosexual community needs a Catholic drill instructor, that brooks no comment, other than “Yes Sir!” to each command. Unfortunately, so many Catholic leaders are either homosexuals, or were, or are very sympathetic to them, and so try to teach others to treat homosexuals as if they have a disease, rather than engage in voluntary behavior that is vile and an offense to God.
Homosexuals sexualists can get to Heaven, but repentance is needed first. But, you don’t say that, do you?
In accord with – Gen 19:1-29; Rom 1:24-27; 1 Cor 6:10; 1 Tim 1:10;
Jude 1:7; and CCC #2357, 2358, 2359, 2396
and
the letter from the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith on the Pastoral Care of Homosexual persons, paragraph #15
https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19861001_homosexual-persons_en.html
when was the last time you expressed your opinions to Abp Cordilieone ?
Or any other Diocese Bishop that you write about regarding the homosexual person ?
In your postings do you ever write that those with Same Sex Attraction can get to Heaven, and only the ACTS are Mortal Sins ?
Wrong St. Christopher.
No Bishop should offer Holy Communion to anyone continuing to choose to live in Mortal Sin of any kind – thus violating Sacred Scripture and the CCC.
St Paul – 1 Cor 11:27-30 about condemnation for receiving Holy Communion unworthily.
Right St. Christopher.
No Catholic properties should be used to support the homosexual lifestyle in any way,
or be the cause of temptation for those with same sex attraction.
It must be CLEARLY STATED at all homosexual meetings on any Church property that “homosexual acts are immoral”.
https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19861001_homosexual-persons_en.html
Health care information should be available through the government offices, Federal, State, and Local. And in fact, can be found on the Center for Disease Control web site.
Telling homosexuals to use condoms for health is promoting the homosexual lifestyle, and a mortal sin.
Telling homosexuals to abstain from sexual activity is in accord with Church teaching.
We must all contact the Abp’s office asap.
“DAVID V” if only you were correct. However, many, many bishops directly condone mortal sin and give out communion all the time to its offenders: pro-abort politicans, pro-homosexual sexual lobbyists and participants, and the like.
You are correct that St. Paul pulled no punches about receiving communion in a state of sin. But people do all the time and many leaders in the Church say, “fine with me”. Just take a look at what Abp. Cupich says about that.
You are also correct in saying that we all need to reach out to bishops and object. But, it will do little good (but do it anyway).
Any meeting of homosexuals on Church property must include information that homosexual acts are a Mortal Sin.
Bishop Paprocki hit the nail on the head:
“Same-sex ‘marriage’ comes from the devil.” http://www.tinyurl.com/SatanicHomos
This comports with the view that sodomites and Muslims are the two riders of the Pale Horse of the Apocalypse: Death and Hades (Rev. 6:7-8).
Bishop Paprocki hit the nail on the head:
“Same-sex ‘marriage’ comes from the devil.”
http://www.tinyurl.com/SatanicHomos
This comports with the sound view that sodomites and Muslims are the two riders of the Pale Horse of the Apocalypse: Death and Hades (Rev. 6:7-8).
” LETTER to the BISHOPS of the CATHOLIC CHURCH
on the PASTORAL CARE of HOMOSEXUAL PERSONS”
https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19861001_homosexual-persons_en.html
” 15. We encourage the Bishops, then, to provide pastoral care in full accord with the teaching of the Church for homosexual persons of their dioceses.
No authentic pastoral programme will include organizations in which homosexual persons associate with each other without clearly stating that homosexual activity is immoral.
A truly pastoral approach will appreciate the need for homosexual persons to avoid the near occasions of sin. “
kristin, i think that this website’s coverage of the revolting darkness is a service and a bulletin board for those who need to know where to target their activism against what you admit is perversion. in the context of a parish, even worse, sacrilege. mary magdalene knew to repent and throw herself at the Lord’s feet, not attend his teachings in proud,defiant,mocking costumes, laughing at him from the pagan side . it’s important to know where the potholes in the road are to get them removed.