‘The NFL lied’

Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:57 AM By charlio
In “Hollywood vs. America” (1992), faithful, believing Jew Michael Medved showed that profitability is not the issue. The filth that spews out of American media, that causes other countries to so resoundingly hate us, is ultimately unprofitable. Parents with their heads screwed on straight will just vote with their feet. But the people who control such displays won’t be dissuaded by the financial loss. Like the Arab proverb of the camel which eats thorns because it loves the taste of its own blood, the people responsible for such things love the evil for itself. Pray for them.

Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 2:21 AM By Paul
They forgot to mention the M&M in this brief. I was particularly scandalized by the Red M&M.

Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:18 AM By VulgarBowlViewerN
What an intriguing proverb. O! Charlio; we have much to pray and fast for.

Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:23 AM By JLS
Money. Notice on youtube scrolling that most traditional American music and video has numbers of hits reaching into the low one or two millions, but the pop stuff that is international such as the singers and like in the superbowl entertainment goes into the hundreds of millions. That is where the money is for the marketers. This is one more example that shows that America has transitioned from real time into the history files.

Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:28 AM By JLS
charlio, I wouldn’t put too much stock in what you call the “Jew Michael Medved’s” 1992 “observation. Eg, how do you stack up the purchasing power of 100 million American families against 3 billion non-American families? Yes, in the sentimental journey which is the only America that exists today, that observation might be accurate, but in the real world it is nothing but a dream.

Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:28 AM By Sandra
Praise the Lord that I left the room, enjoyed my family, and returned after the “ritual” was over.

Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:35 AM By Juergensen
Yesterday, America celebrated God, family, and work. Today, America celebrates abortionists, sodomites, lesbians, illegal aliens, and all form and manner of sexual deviancy. Oh, how many fiddled while America burned?

Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 7:21 AM By Life Lady
“first time shame on you, second time, shame on me”. The perfect way to avoid these kinds of things, being scandalized (agree about the M&M spot, really disgusting!) by the crud put out on such a day as Super Bowl Sunday, is to mute the set, leave the room, and go about doing something else until the spectacle is over. Also, mute the set and tune it out during the other spots, it isn’t worth the aggrivation. I turned my head every time the commercials were on, what else was there to do? But the M&M spot really caught my attention. I thought “oh, it’s M&M, what can happen?” and boy! was I surprised. They surpassed all the other smutty stuff, not only because of what it portrayed (a red M&M took off his red covering because a female chocolate covered one was standing there, and it presumed it was a wardrobe-optional party), but what it would do to the unsuspecting minds of kids. As much as I like that candy, I refuse to buy any more. Now, we all know what we can do about these kinds of things: stop buying the products displayed. Money talks. If enough of us speak out, where it counts, at the bank, maybe they will get the message. If not, it’s okay, nothing we do goes for naught. It may be that we are supposed to learn to do without. Sacrifice is our method of getting closer to Jesus in the first place. I would rather do that, get closer to Jesus, than miss Him altogether and lose myself in a bag of M&M’s.

Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 7:37 AM By Brad
Special events that are paraded before us in the mass media are always illuminati rituals. Purely demonic and luciferian. It would take more than a comment box to describe what the viewer is being exposed to overtly and subliminally. Christ help us.

Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:13 AM By Bud 
Every evening at family suppertime, “FAMILY GUY” is broadcasted on the FOX Tv Channel. This animated “comedy” is one of the filthiest and derogatory to any and all religions the guise of “outrageous” comedy. Seth MacFarlane the creator of this totally immature and nothing but offensive program is aimed at just the right time. Then comes the Two and a Half Men with the sex addict sons as well as the mother. Another excellent scandal on children to digest at suppertime. This has been around awhile so why the outrage at a TV Commercial!!!!! Money runs the porn and entertainment industries!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:43 AM By tony
Knowing this Feast of Super Bowl Sunday would be a total immoral experience, I decided to skip the whole thing.

Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:05 PM By Clinton
Being shocked that the NFL lied is like being surprised Obama lied. It’s just their nature.

Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:15 PM By JMJ
Sunday is a day of worship and for us Catholics, to be in Church for Mass as both the Blessed John Paul & now Pope Benedict has told us. How many were in Church Sunday morning & how much money went into the baskets? Now, how many Catholics were worshipping the false idols, either on T.V. or in the false church (the stadium) and HOW MUCH money did they donate to these false idols? You watched & listened to all of that garbage, lost money, got angry because your idols lost or you were so happy, that just like Randy Travis, got drunk? Where does Jesus come into the picture? No wonder that God has sent Obama to destroy us & our country. We deserve even more punishment. +JMJ+

Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:16 PM By Jane
The NFL is as evil an organization as big unions are today. When some New Orlean Saints players decided to wear red and green for Christmas instead of the Feminazi abortion pink, they were threatened with fines. Why were decent folks even watching halftime? I would think they would know better and be better stewards of their eyes. Especially if their homes are enthroned to the Sacred Heart.

Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 2:07 PM By Sheila
We didn’t watch half time, as who is interested in Madonna? We all know what kind of “entertainment” she would present. I was totally disappointed by the commercials during the Super Bowl. I look forward to them every year. This year, they were the bottom of the barrel – not very funny or creative. This whole fiasco is going down hill yearly. What a shame.

Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 2:30 PM By JLS
The answer: Throw the TV in the recycle bin.

Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 2:54 PM By k
JMJ, on another article, Traditional Angelo pointed out that it was Septuagesima Sunday where the Collect is: O Lord, we beseech Thee favorably to hear the prayers of Thy people, that we who are justly punished for our offenses, may be mercifully delivered by Thy Goodness, for the glory of Thy Name, through Jesus Christ our Savior, who liveth and reigneth with Thee and the Holy Ghost ever, one God, world without end. Amen.

Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 3:52 PM By Lisa
It was so peaceful and quiet in the neighborhood when we took our beloved Labrador “George” for a walk Superbowl afternoon. How sad that the silence on the streets was due to neighbors being glued to their t.v. sets worshipping false gods rather than keeping the sabbath holy to worship the one true God.

Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 4:44 PM By jp
The brains of this artist are indeed “MIA.”

Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 5:25 PM By Delilah
My husband and I used to have Super Bowl parties back in the 80s. All that stopped in the 90s d/t no place big enough for all the children to run around. Interest really began to wane around 2005. My husband said the NFL fixed the games and the ads began to offend me. Half time was even worse. This year we flipped back and forth from a movie to the game, did not watch half time or much of the second half. Turned the last two minutes of the game on. The only commercial I remember was the dogs driving a Subaru. I far and away preferred the movie (Courageous) to the Super Bowl. If I throw the TV into the recycle bin, how can I watch EWTN? Pax

Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:41 PM By JLS
They buy and sell the players in such ways as to stack the deck … big sham in my view. Can’t EWTN be watched on the internet?

Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:03 PM By JonJ
Oh please, the people who think the game is fixed by the nfl are nuts. Can’t you see the difference btw this game and last weeks pro bowl? That was a game where players didn’t really play. There is way too much individual fame and fortune on the line for it to be easily fixed. If the nfl tried to move that much money, they couldn’t cover it up easily; especially given all the contradictory self interests inolved in the nfl office.

Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:47 PM By Abeca Christian
fame is for them, but heaven is for those who protest them. Once you give your life to God and His church, all this trash will burn you and disturb you when you watch it. It’s better that we still have a sensitive eye to these things, then to be de-sensitized as many are and watch without feeling any discomfort.

Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 9:44 AM By Greg
Kill your TV Take back your family. Best move I ever made as a parent.

Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 10:08 AM By mj
People filled the pews at the Carmelite Monastery for the Devotions to The Holy Face & Benediction on Sunday at 3:30 pm as we prayed an ACT OF REPARATION For Blasphemy and Violation of Sunday, among other prayers, with Jesus, exposed on the altar.

Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 10:50 AM By kim
I love sports and have have ever since I was a kid. Now as a father, it is disappointing that I cannot sit and watch an exciting competitive Super Bowl without wondering what stunt advertisers or halftime performers will pull. Many folks who grew up with TV still don’t understand how images effect us — especially our children. I don’t need my 7 year old daughter gaping at David Beckham’s groin area or my 8 year old son seeing the hipness of insulting hand gestures made to a global audience. NFL is becoming “adults only” entertainment. As for me and my family, we’ll have to opt out from now on.

Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 10:52 AM By kim
I love sports and have have ever since I was a kid. Now as a father, it is disappointing that I cannot sit and watch an exciting competitive Super Bowl without wondering what stunt advertisers or halftime performers will pull. Many folks who grew up with TV still don’t understand how images effect us — especially our children. I don’t need my 7 year old daughter gaping at David Beckham’s groin area or my 8 year old son seeing the hipness of insulting hand gestures made to a global audience. NFL is becoming “adults only” entertainment. As for me and my family, we’ll have to opt out from now on.

Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 10:54 AM By kim
I love sports and have have ever since I was a kid. Now as a father, it is disappointing that I cannot sit and watch an exciting competitive Super Bowl without wondering what stunt advertisers or halftime performers will pull. Many folks who grew up with TV still don’t understand how images effect us — especially our children. I don’t need my 7 year old daughter gaping at David Beckham’s groin area or my 8 year old son seeing the hipness of insulting hand gestures made to a global audience. NFL is becoming “adults only” entertainment. As for me and my family, we’ll have to opt out from now on.

Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 10:57 AM By John F. Maguire
A judicious and reasonable use of television is the norm, not TV Luddism (“Throw the TV in the recycle bin”).

Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 11:33 AM By kim
I love sports and have have ever since I was a kid. Now as a father, it is disappointing that I cannot sit and watch an exciting competitive Super Bowl without wondering what stunt advertisers or halftime performers will pull. Many folks who grew up with TV still don’t understand how images effect us — especially our children. I don’t need my 7 year old daughter gaping at David Beckham’s groin area or my 8 year old son seeing the hipness of insulting hand gestures made to a global audience. NFL is becoming “adults only” entertainment. As for me and my family, we’ll have to opt out from now on.

Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 11:46 AM By John F. Maguire
To its credit, Parents Television Council is never missing-in-action, but sometimes PTC overstates its case. On this occasion, PTC declared that “NBC fumbled and the NFL lied because a performer known as M.I.A. felt it necessary to flip off millions of families.” Question: What is the received and the proper definition of lying? Thomas Slater writes: “Lying, as defined by St. Thomas Aquinas, is a statement at variance with the mind.” See T. Slater, “Lying,” _The Catholic Encyclopedia_, vol. 9 (New York: Robert Appleton Company, 1910). (1) The National Broadcasting Company’s monitoring system tried to blur the objectionable gesture, but was too late by a fraction of a second, as is manifest from the video. (2) The National Football League, for its part, had no more to do with this incident than it would have, say, had a player on the field gestured in like manner. ~ The charge that the National Football League lied in this matter is false.

Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 2:57 PM By Aleks Klidzejs
It was a good football game between the Giants-and-Patriots. It was also a good golf tournament to watch on the golf channel during the commercials and the half-time pervert show.

Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 4:57 PM By Abeca Christian
kim I agree.

Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 5:55 PM By JLS
During the Superbowl, it was great to be actively doing something other than worrying about aggro-commercials and whether the sofa was soft enough or whatever. Anybody watch the game kneeling on a hard surface? Just curious.

Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 5:56 PM By JLS
Maguire, in case you don’t know, Luddism beats Lewdism any day of the week.

Posted Friday, February 10, 2012 7:26 AM By Joe
Hate to promote the NFL especially given this but….for the first year they streamed it live on the Internet. We watched it and for some reason NO LIVE COMMERCIALS (they played the same four ‘canned’ commercials at each break……and NO half-time show…instead two reporters analyzing the game….this was on the NFL official site….pretty strange to think the family-friendly programming is now on the net and not the tv!

Posted Friday, February 10, 2012 9:11 AM By John F. Maguire
On the other hand, the National Football League could do better; could proceed with greater prudence (I don’t mean prudence in its narrow, calculating sense but prudence in its perennial sense of PRUDENTIA: practical wisdom in depth. On January 28, 2011, the Archdiocese of New Orleans received a letter from the NFL demanding that all colors, marks, symbols, signs that have any reference to “saints” or the colors associated with New Orleans’ _Saints_ football team be removed from Catholic property. On the list for removal: the color gold, the fleur-de-lis, the color black, the color white, plus any hymns and prayers that use the words ‘Saints,’ ‘New’ or ‘Orleans.’ Speaking on behalf of the Archdiocese, Sarah Jane Caliano replied: “The Archbishop and diocese are stunned by this demand. Does not the NFL know that these symbols are sacred and older than any football franchise? Does the NFL not know that the team was named thus because of the Catholic culture of the city? Gold, gold never tarnishes and keeps its lustre and beauty for centuries and therefore represents God’s divinity and never changing nature. Black represents those who mourn now here on earth for their sins and the sins of the world… The fleur-de-lis is not just a symbol of the New Orleans Saints but also an ancient image of the Lilly. The same image and flower that symbolizes the Trinity: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The fleur-de-lis also represents the purity of Mary and St. Joseph. The color white, the color associated with so many occasions in the Catholic Church: baptism, confirmation, matrimony. White is the color of purity and rebirth.” ~ My understanding is that the NFL repented its wrong-headed intervention.

Posted Friday, February 10, 2012 1:04 PM By Anne T.
I have not gone to a professional ball game since I was embarrassed in front of my grandsons by the extremely skimpy costumes of some cheerleaders. It has only declined since with some of the players on illegal drugs and undeserving of the awards they get, or beating up their wives or girlfriends or coming down with AIDS from some groupy. My apology to those players who are truly trying their best, but the others have ruined it for me.

Posted Friday, February 10, 2012 2:59 PM By Gil
Can John F. Maguire provide a reference for his posting regarding the New Orleans Saints’ purported demand that the Archdiocese there drop references to saints &c? A Google search doesn’t reveal any such demand, nor does a search of the Times-Picayune Website, It sounds like a fairly funny joke, and if it is, congratulations to the joker.

Posted Friday, February 10, 2012 4:01 PM By JLS
Gil, asking Maguire for references … whew … get ready for the avalanche.

Posted Friday, February 10, 2012 4:01 PM By JLS
Anne T., your grandsons probably did not notice your embarrassment.

Posted Friday, February 10, 2012 4:05 PM By JLS
There is precedent: A while back the US Navy named its latest Trident multi-nuke warheaded missle submarine the USS Corpus Cristi. The bishops managed to persuade the Navy to rename her the USS City of Corpus Cristi. How to persuade the NFL though may be a tougher job.

Posted Friday, February 10, 2012 5:02 PM By k
Mr. Maguire and Gil, that was a joke on a blog called Alive and Young. At the bottom it says “Sadly, this isn’t too far from the truth” and links to a story about the right to use the phrase “Who Dat?”

Posted Friday, February 10, 2012 5:50 PM By John F. Maguire
An avalanche of references won’t sustain the story if the story is a hoax in the first place, which after the fact of my posting it, it dawned on me that it is or presumably is. I’ve found internal evidence that it is a hoax, and at least one person with the Archdiocese of New Orleans expressed strong doubts, underscoring the internal evidence. So in the interest of the good name of the NFL (which I’ve already defended in a prior post) I request the removal of the fleur-de-lis post.

Posted Friday, February 10, 2012 6:45 PM By JLS
False, Maguire! An avalanche of references does indeed sustain a story that is a hoax … namely the hoax that Doug Kmiec continues to sustain that the Obama regime will reduce abortion and cure the world of its ills.

Posted Friday, February 10, 2012 7:29 PM By John F. Maguire
JLS: I dont’ see how casting Douglas Kmiec as a convenient stand-in for the 54% of Catholic vote that favored Senator Obama in 2008, helps your case in favor of state-prerogativism, according to which state legislatures possess the prerogative to vote thumbs-up/thumbs down on whether preborn infants have a right to life, without due regard to the American common law tradition of protection of preborn infants and without due regard to the 14th Amendment to the United States Consitution (“nor shall any state deprive any person of life…without due processs of law”). Douglas Kmiec’s invitation to the Supreme Court to revisit _Roe v. Wade_ in light of the Organic Law of the United States (the Declaration of Independence; the Constitution), in principle, runs contrary to your Neo-Republican notion that state legislatures possess a prerogative to vote, if they so chose, against the right to life of preborn infants. In a prior post, I showed that on the presidential level, President richard Nixon was the first President to endorse state-prerogativism, thereby signalling to the Supreme Court that the Executive Branch of government regarded the preborn infant as a non-person within the meaning of the 14th Amendment.

Posted Friday, February 10, 2012 8:08 PM By JLS
“Catholic vote that favored Obama”: Maguire, that is a euphemism for “Catholic vote that pushed abortion”.

Posted Friday, February 10, 2012 10:16 PM By JLS
BTW, Maguire, it is not I who cast Kmiec as the scoundrel who led more than half the Catholic voters to install even more abortion in the world than before, but Kmiec himself. When are you going to take your Marxist blinders off?

Posted Saturday, February 11, 2012 11:54 AM By Anne T.
Actually, JLS, girls have been calling my grandsons since they were only ten and eleven years old. My daughter has had to beat them away. At that time they were, of course, older and had pretty girlfriends, who were not at the game, and their minds were on the game more than anything else. I guess I was the only one embarrassed by all of it. Oh, the trials and tributlations of having teenagers, whether children or grandchildren!

Posted Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:47 PM By JLS
Understatement, Anne T. !!!

Posted Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:52 PM By John F. Maguire
Oh I wouldn’t say so, JLS — as a normative matter, we don’t hold any such attitude of disdain as is conveyed by that undifferentiated equation you so often invoke (Obama voters = abortion pushers). President Obama is an abortocrat, on the one hand, and all the while the right-to-life will always have primacy-of-place in the minds of truly conscientious voters, on the other hand. At the same time, JLS, we have no warrant to deploy this undifferentiated equation of yours against our fellow parishioners, parishioners who — to state the salient fact neutrally — voted for Senator Obama in 2008. What I would caution against then is the temptation to enter into the present voting cycle hobbled by a lack of attention to the actual demographics and actual political psychology of Catholics as voters. I am not a Marxist but no cognizant student of politics doubts that, in fine, there is, in all actuality, both an ethnic and a class dimension (a) to any sound empirical study of voting demographics, and (b) to any sound empirical study of the political psychology of voters.

Posted Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:51 PM By JLS
False again, Maguire: Obama pushes abortion and his supporters support what he pushes, whether they are honest about it or not.

Posted Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:06 PM By MIKE
Maguire, voters who did not know how to find Obama’s long time existing record in support of abortion or partial birth abortion, do have some culpibility since in the USA they should have checked his public record. They should go to confession and ask the Lord’s forgiveness, and that they will not commit the same sin again. With some (especially those with computer access) it may be a Mortal Sin, while with others it may be a venial sin. CCC: “1791 This ignorance can often be imputed to personal responsibility. This is the case when a man takes little trouble to find out what is true and good, or when conscience is by degrees almost blinded through the habit of committing sin. In such cases, the person is culpable for the evil he commits.”

Posted Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:40 PM By John F. Maguire
In reply to Mike: (1) I do not see how the evident truth of CCC 1791 supports JLS’s undifferentiated equation, which is what is at issue here. (2) Since integral pro-lifers do not believe that the right to life should turn on a majority vote of state legislatures, your strictures also apply to the other wing of the abortocratic duopoly, namely: the Neo-Republican wing, which agrees with the _Roe_ holding that preborn infants are non-persons. This covert agreement clears the way for state legislatures to arrogate to themselves the prerogative to vote for or AGAINST the right to life in definace of the 14th Amendment (“nor shall any state deprive any person the right to life… without due process of law”).

Posted Saturday, February 11, 2012 9:36 PM By JLS
What Maguire seeks always to do is necrotize the individual personality into some category of ideas. That is what he is doing here with little abstract and symbolic dance step: he goes from JLS to undifferentiated equation, then to the concept of integrism (subtle) applying it to pro-lifers, and joins the concept with the phrase “do not believe”. This, folks, is political marketing, the type that hypnotizes an audience after bamboozling it. Finally he negates the whole concept of prolife by pitting prolife against right to life. Read his post until you see his wicked device for yourself. What he relies on is a readership which is more used to spoken language than written language, where emotional tone and expression force the argument; so, to understand his deception you have to understand grammar well enough to realize that he is a master of it and uses it in ways intended to confuse a reader. His logic is not full of mistakes, but full of deception. Those readers who can diagram sentences should do so. Parse them out until you have articulated every little nuance in his pitch. You’ll see. His trap is to capture the mind in a box canyon of ideas, divorced from persons.

Posted Sunday, February 12, 2012 12:07 AM By Abeca Christian
John F. Maguire stop just stop promoting Obama. On behave of all aborted unborn babies, I ask you to stop! I’m sick of people backing up Obama, the blood of the unborn are in their hands too!

Posted Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:01 PM By John F. Maguire
Abeca C.: I am promoting NO candidate for public office, let alone an abortocratic candidate. ~ Am I not opposed to the abortocatic duopoly in both wings of that duopoly, namely, its Neo-Republican wing and its Neo-Democratic wing? Have I not underscored the essential difference between integral pro-lifers (such as Notre Dame Law School’s professor emeritus Charles E. Rice), on the one hand, and state-prerogativists, on the other hand? Have I not pointed out that state-prerogativists accept the _Roe_ Court’s holding that preborn infants are non-persons? Have I not (without endorsing him) underscored the fact that Senator Rick Santorum is, like Charles Rice, an integral pro-lifer? Have I not opposed the state-prerogativist notion that under the 14th Amendment preborn infants are non-persons, therefore can be exposed to the votes of state legislatures, thumbs-up / thumbs-down? Have I not shown that President Richard Nixon, back in 1971, was the first president to endorse state-prerogativism? Have I not shown that in so doing, President Nixon sent a signal both to the Supreme Court and to the Democratic Party that the Executive Branch, for its part, did NOT regard preborn infants as persons under the 14th Amendment? Have I not opposed bloggers on this website who (whether they know it not) share Richard Nixon’s mistaken thesis that the word person in the 14th Amendment does not include the right of preborn infants to live out their lives? Have I not opposed Neo-Republican and Neo-Democrats alike in their disregard of the Organic Law of the United States (the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence) AND in their disregard of social justice understood as species-equality, viz., that all living human beings EQUALLY have a right to life?

Posted Sunday, February 12, 2012 4:08 PM By JLS
Maguire, I always “hate” correcting you, but you keep using “organic” to refer to law or some semblance of it; whereas, the word “organic” refers to A. food, B. chemicals with carbon content, C. gardening.

Posted Sunday, February 12, 2012 4:38 PM By Abeca Christian
Maguire why are you confusing me? As I recall you are the one who defended those who voted for Obama and I believe you even voted for Obama? Am I right? or am I right?

Posted Sunday, February 12, 2012 4:51 PM By John F. Maguire
“Gardening,” JLS? Try Black’s Law Dictionary. Quote: ORGANIC LAW: 1. The body of laws (as in a constitution) that define and establish a government; FUNDAMENTAL LAW. […]. See Bryan A. Garner, _Black’s Law Dictionary_, eighth edition (St. Paul, MN: Thomson/West, 2004), p. 1133.

Posted Sunday, February 12, 2012 6:12 PM By JLS
Our current govt definitely consists of vegetables, Maguire, so I agree with what you’ve brought up.

Posted Sunday, February 12, 2012 6:57 PM By John F. Maguire
“Vegetables,” JLS? Let’s agree that it is a good thing not to “necrotize individual personality” by confounding persons with “ideas” even as it is a good thing not to derogate the very existence of human persons by confounding persons with vegetables, even metaphorically.

Posted Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:18 PM By John F. Maguire
Abeca C.: Experienced bloggers know it. Secular educators know it. Parish priests know it. Catholic bishops know it. Et alia. In discussing basic aspects of voting ethics in the public sphere, to disclose how one voted or how one intends to vote is to risk losing a part of one’s audience, in particular those who, in consequence, lose interest in the topic of voting ethics, objectively considered.

Posted Monday, February 13, 2012 10:53 PM By JLS
Maguire, I’m not derogating anyone by pointing out their moral vegetative state, but rather showing that what little human nature they retain is redeemable.

Posted Monday, February 13, 2012 11:30 PM By Abeca Christian
John F. Maguire dancing around the comments are we? What’s that you wrote last, a new rap song or an organic reservoir? (which doesn’t exist because it is an artificial lake)