On March 16, 2018, the Archdiocese of Los Angeles, during its annual Religious Education Congress, offered a workshop entitled “Transgender in Our Schools: One Bread, One Body.” The moderator was Arthur Fitzmaurice, and the presenters included Shen Heckel, a female-to-male transsexual; Peggy Ehling, a Catholic mother whose daughter was born a biological female but identifies as male; and Father Bryan Massingale, a professor of theology at Fordham University.
Fitzmaurice is openly gay and currently (since 2010) serves as resource director for the dissident Catholic Association of Lesbian and Gay Ministries (CALGM). Concerning the Catechism and the statement that homosexual acts are “intrinsically disordered,” Fitzmaurice wrote: “The language certainly still needs to change. It is gravely evil language.” In 2012, board members of CALGM, including Fitzmaurice, refused to sign an “oath of personal integrity” to Catholic teaching. In 2016, Fitzmaurice signed an online petition created by “Call To Action” that asks for changes in the Catechism regarding teachings on homosexuality.
Ehling teaches first-year Confirmation students at St. Francis Church in Burbank. Her daughter, who now goes by Skate, attended Catholic schools for thirteen years.
In 2017, Massingale spoke at New Ways Ministry’s Eight National Symposium. In 1999, the co-founders of New Ways Ministry were officially silenced by the Vatican.
This workshop is the third in a series of transgender workshops offered at the L.A. Religious Education Congress. The first, in 2016, covered transgenderism in the Church, and the second, from last year, discussed transgenderism in the family.
During his introduction, Fitzmaurice said: “We are not here to argue Church teaching; we’re here to journey together. Sometimes the journey is rocky. It certainly was for Jesus.”
He also stated that Bryan Massingale will “present some Church teachings.”
Ehling stated: “I came to the first of these workshops two years ago, four months after my son told me he was in fact my son.”
Concerning LGBT acronyms, Heckel said: “Young people kind of judge how you pronounce acronyms. They know that if you are able to say LGBTQ without hesitation, that you are accepting.”
Heckel added: “We all know pretty much what lesbian, gay, and bisexual stand for. We get kind of fuzzy when we have to deal with the T. This little gingerbread man is going to help us explain better what trans can mean.”
An image of the “Genderbread” person appears on the overhead screen.
Heckel continued:
“Gender identity … that’s where it gets complicated for people because [they] … for the most part … have never questioned what this means, and this is how you perceive yourself in everyday experiences, so everyday experiences for the greater population would be if you were born female, you identify as female, you have no problem being in female spaces, sharing female experiences and anything that goes along with being a woman. For transgender people, this does not align with their physical sex, does not align with what the doctor cried out when they were born. So, for me, my gender identity is male even though maybe not quite what the doctor thought.”
When asked about Church teachings, Massingale offered a lengthy explanation:
Unlike L and G, when it comes to T, the Catholic Church gives us a whole lot of room to move because they don’t say a whole lot. However, something has happened, and what has happened has been called the culture wars and cultural anxieties.
How does it get played out in the Catholic Church? There is a phrase that is being used in very recent Catholic discussions, and it’s a phrase called “gender ideology.” What does gender ideology mean? Write this down. We don’t know! Gender ideology is a secular term that came to light in Europe[.] … What they were trying to find ways to expressing their opposition to same-sex marriage, opposition to forms of birth control, oppositions to anything that was seen as progressive in terms of sexuality, but doing it in a way that didn’t signal any hostility towards anyone else. And so, they coined this phrase, “gender ideology,” which has no coherent meaning except that it seems to have three kinds of references. One, we have to defend our children from it. The defense of children is a constant phrase we hear in gender ideology and a constant you’ll hear in transgender discussions as well. We need to defend our children. The second thing they mean by gender ideology is that your gender is something you cannot choose, and the way they do it is by simplifying the gingerbread person we had up there, by using phrases such as “let girls be girls and boys be boys.” Now, it sounds very simple, except what exactly does it mean to be a boy? And what does it mean to be a girl? It’s a very catchy catchphrase, but it doesn’t tell you very much.
Now why is gender ideology important? Because to date you go to the USCCB website, there is only one document dealing with trans issues on the whole site. And it invokes this phrase gender ideology and the way they begin that document is by talking about same-sex marriage. Note how they conflate same-sex relationships and trans relationships even though they are not the same thing. They begin with that and then they talk about how we need to defend our children against false ideas of gender and specifically say that children are harmed when you teach them that they can choose their gender. That’s essentially the document in a nutshell. [Document is “Created Male and Female: An Open Letter from Religious Leaders.” ]
Now, a couple of things to know about this. Let’s not make more of this than it is. One, it’s an ecumenical document that’s only signed by twenty faith leaders, only four of which are Catholic bishops. The Catholic bishops as a whole haven’t said a great deal about transgender issues. The second thing to note is that it’s not an official statement of the United States Catholic Bishops.
Now, why have I told you this? Because when you go back to your schools, I guarantee you someone will show you some blog site that has this document on it. It’s important for you to know what the document is and what it isn’t.
The second thing to be aware of is that the document is fundamentally flawed. Because trans people are not talking about choosing their gender. They are talking about a process of discovery. And it’s very different than “I woke up one day and I am going to be a woman.” No, it’s not that simple.
What it does say, though, is that the Catholic Church is like most of us. We’re afraid. What are we afraid of? We’re afraid that if we make room for that which we do not understand, that we could be falling into moral chaos somewhere. We’re afraid because, well, if Shen can stand before us and be a man, but was biologically a woman, what does that make us? And we’re afraid. Because frankly, we don’t understand, and it’s human to be afraid of what we don’t understand. And unfortunately, when humans are afraid of what they don’t understand, we can be really cruel. Does that make sense to people?
So what do we do when we don’t understand? It means the Catholic Church is all over the board on this. It means if you go to Holy Rosary College, and you transition as a student, they will welcome you with open arms, and the campus ministry will accept you and they will provide housing and accommodations. Or you go to Saint Kundykunda’s, try not to pick anybody…and you transition, you can be expelled. Because that’s the kind of place we are at right now, because the Catholic Church is in a period of discernment as we are trying to understand what we don’t understand.
The document referred to by Massingale is titled “Created Male and Female: An Open Letter from Religious Leaders.” The document states:
“We come together to join our voices on a more fundamental precept of our shared existence, namely, that human beings are male or female and that the socio-cultural reality of gender cannot be separated from one’s sex as male or female.”
Concerning the gender “transition” of children, the document warns:
“Children especially are harmed when they are told that they can “change” their sex or, further, given hormones that will affect their development and possibly render them infertile as adults. Parents deserve better guidance on these important decisions, and we urge our medical institutions to honor the basic medical principle of “first, do no harm.” Gender ideology harms individuals and societies by sowing confusion and self-doubt.”
Signers of the document included Archbishop Charles Chaput of Philadelphia and Archbishop Joseph Kurtz, chairman of the USCCB Committee for Religious Liberty.
Heckel was asked by Fitzmaurice to describe experiences with the “most affirming” group he ever encountered. Heckel credited “the Catholic Center at UCLA[.] … [W]hen I went to UCLA, I was socially transitioning, which means I hadn’t taken testosterone yet.” Heckel added: “The faith journey and my gender journey is one in the same.”
When asked if a teacher should use the gender pronoun of a child’s choosing, Ehling responded: “One hundred times, yes.” She added: “There were teachers at my son’s high school that were using ‘he’ comfortably, naturally, automatically before I was.”
During the audience participation section, Fitzmaurice posed this question for discussion: what does it mean when I say I am male or female?
Massingale responded with: “For me, being a male means there’s a lot of baggage that I need to overcome … that keeps me from being fully human.”
Heckel said, “I believe my journey in discovering my identity, I had both privileges of being male and female in different aspects of my life.”
Ehling focused on clothing and gender identity. She mentioned Catholic schools that require students to wear gender-specific uniforms, including the problem of dresses at First Holy Communion for those who are transgender.
Then Fitzmaurice asked the panel the following question: “Is it dangerous to allow very young children to transition?”
Ehling said:
There is absolutely nothing wrong or harmful with letting a child tell you who they are. You need to believe them. I think we do more harm, even with very little children, maybe even especially with very little children, when we send them the message that we can’t love them for who they are[.] … [N]ow, it’s easier to do that with a girl who doesn’t want to wear dresses than with a boy who does want to wear dresses. But you can still do it. You can let a child tell you who they are.
Following the L.A. Religious Education Congress, according to Heckel:
Also, as a result of the workshop I spoke at, half a dozen parishes want me to come and speak at their church, teach their staff, meet their youth[.] … “Stone by stone, a mountain can be moved.”
Full story at LifeSiteNews; originally from Joseph Sciambra.
Archbishop Gomez and Fr. Chris Bazryouros, Director of the Office of Religious Education, are fully culpable for this anti-Catholic workshop at the Congress, as well as every other aspect of Congress that is anti-Catholic.
Do they not have consciences? Do they not have knowledge? Do they not have courage? How can Gomez tell confirmandi to be courageous Christian witnesses in the world if he doesn’t have the courage to clean up Congress?
The people who spoke at this workshop do not have Catholic faith. It is impossible to have Catholic faith and support LGBT ideology, which contradicts Revelation.
These speakers think they’re so clever. “We’re not here to argue Church teachings. We’ll present some Church teachings.”
See, they cherry pick and omit to give a false impression and mislead. They deliberately understate what Church teaching is in order to deceive.
They know full well that what they are saying and presenting is against Church teaching. They hope they can convince enough people to revolt against Church teaching. Despicable!
They shouldn’t have been allowed to give a workshop in the first place. What’s wrong with the bishop?
Is California Catholic Daily endorsing this?
We are faithful to Church teachings on the matter.
When I click on this story the url says the catholic church is all over the board on this
You did not answer my question exactly.
I had the same doubt. If you are against it you have to say it, other way it looks like you are promoting it, and helping them spread their message.
Please do an open letter to the ArchBishop & Bishop!!
I really haven’t found any Church teaching except:
Christianity declares that God has created humanity, male and female, and has
blessed them so as to form one flesh and transmit life (cf. Gn. 1:27-28; 2:24). Their
difference, equal in personal dignity, is the seal of God’s good creation. According to
the Christian principle, soul and body, biological sex as well and the social-cultural
role of the sex (gender), can be distinguished, but not separated.
From the relatio finalis 2015
I don’t find anything that specifically addresses transgenderism.
There is no Church teaching on transgenderism. Just like there is no church teaching on schizophrenia or cancer. There is not going to be.
There is no Church teaching on what is and isn’t appropriate treatment of the condition.
As far as I know there is no Church policy on people who have this condition, other than like all people they are to be treated with compassion, sensitivity and respect
There are beginning to be teachings on gender theory, opposing the ones that propose that a person can choose their gender or that delineate more than two genders, male and female..
There is Church teaching that it is gravely sinful to mutilate your body. Attempting to change your sex is bodily mutilation and is gravely evil.
Could you give me a source for that? I cannot find it online.
Thank you for your post Anonymous. That might be why gender reassignment surgery is sinful but most transgender people don’t get the surgery.
I found this story really confusing and I started to go down the rabbit hole so I really appreciate your post.
If I am understanding what I’m reading from Pope Francis and Pope Benedict and the Vatican, the sin might be in not conforming yourself to the will of God with regard to your sex. But I am still confused so I would appreciated anybody that can enlighten me further.
transsexual behavior “reveals in a public way an attitude opposite to the moral imperative of solving the problem of sexual identity according to the truth of one’s own sexuality.”
This is from a Vatican statement on why transgender people cannot be godparents.
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/vatican-says-no-to-transsexual-godparents-amid-spain-controversy-54280
I may have been wrong when I said there is not Church teaching on transgenderism. I searched and did not find any but today I have encountered some different things.
Pope Francis after saying the trans people should be accompanied also said:
“I want to be clear, this is a problem of morals. It’s a problem.
After years of study, the Vatican’s doctrinal congregation has sent church leaders a confidential document concluding that “sex-change” procedures do not change a person’s gender in the eyes of the church.
Consequently, the document instructs bishops never to alter the sex listed in parish baptismal records and says Catholics who have undergone “sex-change” procedures are not eligible to marry, be ordained to the priesthood or enter religious life, according to a source familiar with the text.
This was from a Catholic News Services story still available here:
https://www.ncronline.org/news/vatican-says-sex-change-operation-does-not-change-persons-gender
Just on this matter?
To Fr. Massingale, who says that people who disagree with transgender propaganda are afraid of what they don’t understand:
No, I’m not afraid “because I don’t understand it.” I reject it entirely because I understand it. I understand they are mentally ill and are trying the impossible by trying to change the sex they have had since conception.
Encouraging children to choose a different sex than they are is child abuse.
The people who gave this workshop are guilty of gravely misinforming Catholics.
Does the Archbishop know this went on? Does he know what was said?
I think they are trying to incorporate gender theory but getting it wrong, (or just including the things that they accept) but they shouldn’t be teaching it at a Church event anyway.
It sickens me to no end to know that the archbishop approves of this being taught. And the woman with the daughter who she now treats as a son? She teaches confirmation classes in a parish? That’s allowed by the pastor and the parents and nobody has said anything to the archdiocese? What is going on in Los Angeles? Is everyone crazy there? These people should be nowhere near children and should not be teaching them anything about the faith!!!!
Most Catholics will not accept these fringe group folks as role models. Slapping a Catholic label on dissenters or hetetics does not make them Catholics. They need prayers, not followers.
Dare to read St Paul’s Epistle to the Romans. Chapter 1 verses 24 to 31, in the most accurate English translation of the Holy Roman Catholic Bible, the Douay – Rheims Holy Bible!
This seems like a satire piece. Are you sure this is real? I can’t believe this would actually happen at a Catholic conference.
Similar classes for catechists took place in the San Francisco Diocese in the 1970’s. I accidentally chose one such class and was appalled by the speaker’s “anything goes” attitude toward sexuality. Afterward, I received mail from Dignity, a dissident group. I threw it in the trash. Had it not been for the orthodox Catholic pastor in my parish and the ones in a city next to me, I would have left the Church.
This period in the Church is reminding me of the 70s and 80s.
What fixed the problem was the release of the Catechism. Some of these problems have surfaced since the release of the Catechism.
Back in the 80s, I asked a priest if using birth control was a sin. He answered “It depends.”
The Catholic Church teaches that birth control is gravely evil, I found out later.
I was also misinformed by some Catholic doctors and priests. I was blessed to have other Catholic doctors and priests correct what they said, told me why and put me on the right track. Had they not, I would have been dead (literally) a long time ago. As it is, I have had to suffer some of the consequences of misinformation as most do at times. Some priests were misinformed themselves by unqualified physicians.
During his introduction, Fitzmaurice said: “We are not here to argue Church teaching; we’re here to journey together. Sometimes the journey is rocky. It certainly was for Jesus.”
They weren’t there to “argue” Church teaching. They were there to completely disregard it.
What is the point of journeying together apart from the Church? That’s what they are doing and asking others to join them in doing. That journey leads to hell, and it sure is rocky.
Love how they compared themselves to Jesus, as if the mere fact that people oppose you makes you right. Sorry, Fitzmaurice, that’s not how it works.
This is the guy who posted on his Facebook page that Jesus was a heretic.
I really don’t know how that could even be but I can tell he is responding to a Church Militant video.
When people are productive and bring something positive to the world, most people don’t care if you’re gay, or trans or obese or have a uni-brow. There are sad stories, there are traumatic rejections. You can always find someone who has it worse than you do. Loneliness is a blessing if you know what to do with it. So is rejection. Those who reject you aren’t supposed to be in your life. Keep walking. It is not you, it’s them. Most people won’t reject you. But you won’t notice that if you get fixated on trying to force relationships that were never meant to be. Most of the people who say they are Christians aren’t very good at it. You be good at it. If you are in a no-love situation, you bring the love.
WHO IS SURPRISED???
Their idea of the person is the same as their idea of the Catholic Faith – it can be whatever you WANT it to be!
City of the Angels; but different angels here.
Let’s cut through the nonsense:
There are two and only two sexes: male and female. You are either one or the other. Which one you are was determined at conception. You cannot change your sex after that. Although you can mutilate yourself and pretend that you are the opposite sex that you are, it will always be nothing more than a lie that you tell yourself because no matter how convincingly you superficially alter your appearance you will always be the same sex that you had at conception; every cell in your body will have the DNA of your sex at conception. Anyone who helps you lie to yourself is not your friend and does not love you.
There, no need for the workshop.
Anon, I’m not sure that you are correct in your comment that we are all one sex or the other from conception. I have read that there is a significant minority (I know that sounds like jumbo shrimp) that are born with enough of two sexes that they have to be surgically corrected quickly. This isn’t something that is talked about much.
Anonymous is correct that there are only two sexes. Everyone agrees on that. Bob one is correct that there are genital and chromosomal abnormalities where rarely a person is born with ambiguous genitalia and sometimes other conditions. Any thing that can go wrong does go wrong. But rarely.
Transgenderism is a condition where there is no genital or chromosomal abnormality and the person believes themselves to be of the opposite sex and desires to change to that sex. There is no explanation for this yet. People are conceived as both sexes. At about 8 weeks, the cells of one sex regress and the other grow depending on hormones. It is possible that there is some kind of hormonal influence in utero that causes transgenderism but no one…
These people will NEVER bring this alarming idiocy into my church. Over my dead body.
Has anyone ever gotten a defense or explanation from the archdiocese for these heretical presentations or do other people’s letters simply get ignored like mine are? I’ve written about a half dozen times to Archbishop Gomez and Fr. Chris over the past several years, but I have never gotten a response. I’m tired of writing and feeling like I’m wasting my time. So I’m done trying.
I think you might be wasting your time, but you should still try. Several years ago, they at least made an attempt to have more traditional, less controversial speakers. This year it was just the controversial hit parade. I thought the reason they improved was because Kenneth M. Fisher and Concerned Roman Catholics of America used to stand outside and hand out flyers which named the speakers that were a concern. I think he had a stroke a few years ago and I don’t what happened to that effort.
I think they are immune to “hate” mail. I think organizations like Church Militant have made it more difficult to get your concerns taken seriously. But you should still try. If the “hate” mail stops, it will get worse.
So does identifying as a different race work too? Why is all this newfangled stuff limited to sex? Shouldn’t race be added to the gingerbread man’s characteristics and be as changeable and feelings-based as the other qualities? What if a white man feels he is an Asian woman? Does the fluidity work with race too? Or can a white man only feel like a white woman, not an Asian or black woman? I mean, if everything is how you feel, then why can’t you feel or identify as a race different than the race you were “assigned” at birth? Why isn’t the stupidity of all this stuff apparent to more people? And at a Catholic conference?
simpering idiocy
Maybe these males are jealous of our menstruation and cramps. I heard they can menstruate following the surgery… Or is the correct term “Person-struate?” ???
The Catholic Church agrees with the Bible that God created male and female, not metrosexual.
Metrosexual is heterosexual male. They are known for being exceptionally well groomed
Even though archdiocesan personnel have tried to keep it secret, it’s fairly well-known that an associate director of the archdiocesan religious education office is in a same-sex civil marriage. That’s where a lot of this comes from. Believe me, the archbishop and chancery priests are scared to death of what would happen in the media and to them if they took disciplinary action against her or fired her or opposed her. So she gets away with everything in planning the Rel. Ed. Congress. That’s where this comes from. Things won’t get better until she’s out.
Perhaps it is time for (Peaceful) ‘Outing’ & Protest against the Faithful paying top $$ for such Evil Influence
SEE The Counterfeit Christian
https://townhall.com/columnists/mikeadams/2015/08/21/the-counterfeit-christian-n2041939
Yale University – divinity school…atheists often sought their divinity degrees at Yale – made sense. If you really hated Christianity, it would only be wise to try to destroy it from within
destroying Christianity from within – seen it before – campus gay activist sponsored an event meant to deceive people into thinking that the Bible supported homosexuality. He wore a gigantic silver cross on the outside of his shirt in order to make people believe he was a Christian while he was intentionally…
L-G-B-T-Q, translates to, S-A-T-A-N in 2018!!! Can’t wait for their next rallying cry, “INCEST BEGINS AT HOME”.
Maybe those of you from the LA archdiocese should let you archbishop know that Arthur Fitzmaurice has a Facebook that says “Jesus was a heretic.”
More excorcisms are necessary to save souls that have been commandiered by the devil. Unfortunately there are not enough exorcists to drive them all back behind and into the gates of hell.
Yes, independent Masses exist. They are often held at hotel conference rooms. Some have church buildings. But they don’t have all the sacraments Their Masses are illicit. You have free will and you can use it to join schismatic churches. But you will go to hell.
A Catholic can not fulfill their obligation to attend Mass on Sunday at one of these Masses.
Here is a list of valid and licit traditional Masses:
https://www.ecclesiadei.org/masses.cfm
In a conversation with Pope Benedict, who is in good health and very perceptive, he said to me: “Holiness, this is the age of sin against God the Creator”. He is very perceptive. God created man and woman; God created the world in a certain way… and we are doing the exact opposite. God gave us things in a “raw” state, so that we could shape a culture; and then with this culture, we are shaping things that bring us back to the “raw” state! Pope Benedict’s observation should make us think. “This is the age of sin against God the Creator”. That will help us.
Pope Francis
The best advice anyone can give to any person whether they are gay, trans, straight, questioning etc…
TAKE YOUR EYES OFF YOURSELF!
God will take care of everything. Stop worrying about what you are and who you are. If you are baptized, you are a member of Jesus’ Body. You no longer belong to yourself. You don’t need to be accepted. You don’t need people to love you. You need to get out there and show the love of Jesus to others. All others.
I would like to know what the science says. We are learning new things every day. The science many of learned back in high school years ago is hardly mentioned any more. The science can tell us most of the answers to the questions asked in the above comments. I don’t think the church needs to change its teachings to meet the desires of today’s people and culture, but what if science says we need to change our approach?
Bob One, misusing our body parts will never be acceptable. We will always have to pay the price for their misuse. When many people cannot even get basic medicine, pumping opposite sex hormones into someone’s body and using up much needed pharmaceuticals for the wrong thing, not only harms the person misusing them but those who could really use them for the right thing. It is a crime — lawful maybe but a crime.
This article has confused me a lot. I wish there was a video or transcript because this isn’t making sense. What is Ginger bread man supposed to be? So much is lumped in that it is just confusing. A person can dress androgynously and not have any issues with their sexuality. Intersex is a birth defect. I was born with birth defects that affected my whole life. Occasionally I was really abused and humiliated by someone who thought I should be able to do better than I could. But I wouldn’t want people to say that I was normal. I’m not. I have a deficiency.
“everyday experiences for the greater population would be if you were born female, you identify as female, you have no problem being in female spaces, sharing female experiences and anything that goes along with being a woman.”
Not true. At. All.
Fitzmaurice posed this question for discussion: what does it mean when I say I am male or female?
Massingale responded with: “For me, being a male means there’s a lot of baggage that I need to overcome … that keeps me from being fully human.”
What??????
The only time I say whether I am male or female is on doctor’s forms. It means they will assess and order tests differently.
When I say I am male I mean I have XY sex chromosomes in my DNA and have the male reproductive anatomy. That is the true definition and was accepted as true by almost everyone until about fifteen years ago.
I regret reading this article.
If I was a catechism teacher then I would need to know the diocesan policy or school policy on how to handle things that might come up (pronouns, bathroom, lining kids up boys and girls, uniforms). I would be the servant of the school so I would do what I was told.
Maybe that was addressed at the REC and just not mentioned in this article?
No, this workshop was full-on promoting transgender propaganda and lies. The panel was stacked with LGBT ideological whackos.
Anomynous,
Were the good Germans working in the French Underground during World War 2 wrong? or traitors? According to your definition perhaps they were illicit to Hitler and his Nazi Party? To the Nazi Party and Hitler they were doing wrong; but from the eyes of God were they doing wrong?
Think about it. The Nazis Party took over the German people. Little did they know in the 1930s where they were being led into.
The 1917 Code of Canon Law Canon defines schism in canon 1325 paragraph 2:
If finally he refuses to be under the Supreme Pontiff of refuses communion with the members of the Church subject to him, he is a schismatic.
What is the penalty for schism? That can be answered with canon 2314, paragraph 1:
All apostates from the Christian faith and each and every heretic or schismatic:
Incur by that fact excommunication;
Safe Environment Coordinators | FAQs
https://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/child-and-youth-protection/safe-environment.cfm
*A training program for children that includes age appropriate materials pertaining to personal safety that conforms to Catholic teachings
Churches, schools, and youth organizations must ensure that children and youth who worship, study, or participate in activities sponsored by a parish can do so in the safest and most secure setting possible.
Parents and caretakers have the right to ask these institutions if they meet the requirements of the Charter before they allow their children to become involved with them.
An effective safe environment program will have the following components:
A code of conduct for…
Keep thinking Anomynous, sooner or later you will connect the dots and recall Our Lord’s own words: ‘You will know them by their fruits’. Then maybe, just maybe you will stop pretending.
Wolves in sheep’s clothing: You will know them by their fruits.
According to the Catechism of Trent, they are no longer a part of the Catholic Church.
According to the 1917 Canon Law they are excommunicated.
Leaving the Catholic Church and starting your own church is a really bad fruit.
Hearing confessions when you have no faculties to absolve people from their sins is a really bad fruit.
sounds like a complete wRECk
Being transgender is very difficult. They can’t just accept their birth sex and live that way. That is why they are transgender. That is what it means-people who can’t be their birth sex and feel like they are the opposite sex. If they could just accept their birth sex and live that way, they would not be transgender.
Anomynous, As well meaning of a person as your are, you seem to follow in modern times and conditions the same ways as the Pharisees in the New Testament. They took pride in obeying and portraying their religious laws (by their own interpretations), but did not know the true meaning of those laws in the sight of God.
Bruce, with all the love in my heart, I pray for God to show you the errors of your ways. It can’t get plainer. You do not obey the Catholic Church from before Vatican II on a grave matter. You are in mortal sin. You can’t get out of it on your own. No one can. That is the teaching of the Church.
Catholics can commit mortal sin and still be part of the Church. Except for heretics and apostates and schismatics. That is the teaching of the Church before Vatican II.
You leave the Church and claim to be of the true faith-but you don’t obey it. You have to attend a Church that is united with the Pope. Or you are not Catholic. Pope Pius V said so.
Another disobedience. the Catholic Church before V2 insisted that the Pope appoints bishops. But sedevacantist bishops have not been appointed by the Pope.. Excommunicated (as if they are not already)
Just being is difficult for a transgender person. Then there are all the extra stresses of dealing with other people. When they try to conform to their birth sex, they become so miserable that they can kill themselves. Even if they transition, life is not easy for them. It is a really hard state of being that no one chooses.
Staurophobia – The term staurophobia comes from Greek roots and refers to a fear of the Cross (stauros = cross + phobia = fear). Within the Church this error emerges from reticence by Catholics to frankly discuss the demands of discipleship. It reveals a strong hesitation to insist that even hard things are often the best the proper thing to do.
National Catholic Register, 8 Modern Errors Every Catholic Should Know About