While California’s Democratic politicians try to legislate three-parent families (SB 1476), prevent same-sex attracted youth from receiving desired psychological counseling (SB 1172), undercut marriage (SB 1140), and permit non-doctors to perform abortions (SB 623), new figures show that the state’s sexual revolution continues to devour its own children.
The California Department of Public Health recently released its latest statistics for sexually transmitted diseases in the state.
The release of the statewide statistics comes at the same time that the Department of Public Health of the city and county of San Francisco released its statistics on sexually transmitted diseases for the first half of 2012. In San Francisco, the numbers for gonorrhea, male rectal gonorrhea, chlamydia, male rectal chlamydia, and syphilis are all up over the year 2011.
The numbers from the state of California are more detailed. They show that the number of early and latent syphilis cases have increased statewide every year since 2007. They also show that in the city and county of San Francisco cases of early and latent syphilis have increased for the sixth consecutive year. San Francisco is the only county in the state which shows six consecutive years of increase.
The California Department of Public Health also gives a breakdown on cases of syphilis by sex. For San Francisco in 2011 there were 278 cases of syphilis among men as opposed to 11 among women. Either those 11 women sleep around a lot, or the overwhelming numbers among men are caused by same-sex activity. In fact, in an August 23 article covering the new figures, the usually well-informed Matthew Bjako of the homosexualist Bay Area Reporter writes: “Men who have sex with men account for 80 percent of the infectious, or primary, syphilis cases statewide.” This number should be put in perspective. The “October 2008 Census Snapshot” of California’s Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual Population produced by the Williams Institute at UCLA indicates that 3.2% of the population of California falls in those categories. But since 42% of that 3.2% are lesbian, that means that 1.85% of the population of California is responsible for 80% of its new syphilis cases.
Younger people may not realize that syphilis was once considered nearly eradicated in developed countries. Wikipedia reports: “After decreasing dramatically since the widespread availability of penicillin in the 1940s, rates of infection have increased since the turn of the millennium in many countries, often in combination with human immunodeficiency virus (HIV). This has been attributed partly to unsafe sexual practices among men who have sex with men, increased promiscuity, prostitution, and decreasing use of barrier protection.” A Web MD article from November 2012 is more succinct: “Syphilis is down among women but skyrocketing among men who have sex with men.”
Granted this is about SSA disorderly acting out, but it ultimately originates in the supposedly heterosexual heart of the sexual revolution, which had among its aims venereal disease prevention and pregnancy prevention & population control. Yet whereas in the 60s there were only 2 STDs, there are now on the order of 40, the method failure rate for The Pill is 9%, and the White Anglo Saxon Protestant WASPs have largely contracepted themselves to extinction to leave a demographic vacuum which abhorrent nature will inexorably fill with the floodtide of Latino immigration. But sexual deviance is The New Normal and traditional morality is the black & white TV with rabbit ears. Sheesh!
and its all bush’s fault
President Obama denigrates the black and white television era, but I can think of many good thing about it — divorces were rare; STDs were rare; no students killing each other on campuses though almost everyone I knew owed at least a BB gun or a rifle; mothers could actually stay home with their children at times without working two jobs; jobs were plentiful, even for teens,;many African Americans actually owed their own businesses (one of my dentists in the late fifties was African American and his hygienist a Creole) even though things were not perfect for them,;gas was cheap, television and the movies were decent and most were worth watching when one had company; the majority of families of all races had a father at home. and on and on.
It’s that “father at home” dynamic that drives much of the rest of the peace of those times. But nobody dares mention that married parents are the single greatest predictor of child success – that would be a judgement. So many kids in so much trouble…..
I agree! Because we saw things in B&W, good was good, and evil was evil…now we live in an age that promotes ‘Shades of Gray” that filthy piece of hard porn that passes for what they call literature these days.
Many levels of understanding here and as usual, it’s all ignored.
Charlio, what an EXCELLENT response! I would only add that the medical community, for the last several years (since perhaps 2000), has become extremely concerned about antibiotic resistant syphilis. Very soon we will be back to the pre-1940s, before antibiotics were discovered. Isn’t that scary? I wonder if morals will change drastically when there is NO cure for syphilis and it becomes the deadly disease it once was, or whether everyone will continue on their merry way.
You can’t fool mother nature and nature’s Creator!!!!!!!!
No real surprise here, except that this doesn’t mention the fact that those of us that try to live as God tells us, are the ones that have to foot the medical bills by having higher premiums on our health insurance, but, of course, Obama and his obamacare will “pay” for these treatments in order that those that are involved with sexual sins won’t have to give up their death-styles. GOD WILL NOT BE MOCKED and His answer to our blindness is eternal damnation and the destruction of our country. +JMJ+
Sin is Sin whether homosexual or straight does it!
Abolish medical insurance.
Nah. If you just wipe out all of them-there preverts, everything will be back to its illusory best of the 1950s.
Hey Jimbo, We don’t want to wipe you out… we actually care about you. We just want you to repent and sin no more (oh, and by the way, so does Jesus).
Back to its iIllusory best of the 1950s”???? Were YOU there? How old are you? I WAS there, and it was NOT illusory. There are misfits in every era, but percentage-wise, they were WAY fewer and farther between than now, when every perversion is celebrated. Look at the statistics for the evil that now abounds in our society compared to the statistics from the 1950s and tell me you honestly believe the morals and happiness that existed in the 1950s was “illusory.” Again, I ask: How old are you? Let’s here your bona fides.
Oops. I AM tired. “Hear your bona fides,” not “here your bona fides.” My apologies.
The sexual immorality in the fifties was far more constrained because of laws and social disapproval. This changed beginning in the sixties.
I was actually the one who wrote about the fifties. There was a change in my computer, and it must have come through as Anonymous, which I did not intend. I actually wrote twice, which probably confused the editor as I did not think the first went through. No, Jim Mc Crea we will not have to get rid of those “perverts” as you put it because some are doing a very good job of getting rid of themselves.
In other words, Jim Mc Crea one cannot use one’s body for deviant or promiscuous behavior and not suffer the consequences eventually, whether homosexual or heterosexual.
The two Anonymous post above at 4:24 and 4:31 pm consecutively on Sept. 5 are mine, Anne T. My computer now sends out anonymously if I forget to put in a name. It did not before this.
Sin is sin, but sodomy is called an, “abomination,” in the Old Testament.
Funny thing is that the Sodomites of today are just the same as those at the time of the destruction of Sodom and Gemorrah. When Lot warned them of the wrath soon to come upon them for their transgressions, they indignantly replied, “Who is this man that has come here to be our judge?”
Nature punishes crimes committed against her as these diseases demonstrate. Just like the heterosexuals who contracept and then end up infertile.
How does the Ca. Dept of Public Health know when it is counting males vs females in San Francisco’s LGBT community? That community claims that there are something like 5 genders and that a person may register as whatever gender they feel like being that day.
The Catholic Church does not discriminate. All sexual activity outside of marriage (-between one man and one woman) is a Mortal Sin.
Adultary is a mortal sin.
CCC: ” 2396 Among the sins gravely contrary to chastity are masturbation, fornication, pornography, and homosexual practices.”
When will the State of CA release information on the cost to all taxpayers of:
sexually transmitted deseases including most AIDS cases,
abortion and side affects,
contraception and side affects,
voluntary sterilization,
viagra and like products including side effects, etc. ? ? ? ? ? ?
Obama needs to do the same on a National Level.
We must make the Democrats address their policies, and since they are not interested in morality – we should make them address $$$$$$$$$$$ to the taxpayer.
Good points Mike, but the Democrats do not answer to anyone especially taxpayers, the party is basically a criminal organization
Having been an Officer in that Party, a Conservative one, I can readily attest to the accuracy of your above statement.
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
There are different degrees of mortal sin. For example, someone who intentionally does not attend Mass one sunday has committed a lesser sin than someone who forcibly rapes, murders and eats three children and then worships an idol and celebrates a demonic anti-Mass: If you believe these mortal sins to be equal, then you’re not Catholic but possibly a Baptist.
JLS, ALL MORTAL SINS will send you to Hell if there is no repentance with a firm purpose of amendment not to commit the sin again.
Observe the sabbath day, and keep it holy – God’s Commandment.
But their are degrees of punishment in hell, just as their are degrees of reward in heaven.
my goodness, you folks talk about hell as if you have been there and back, after doing extensive research.
i just try to be a good catholic, avoid sin, and embrace the gospel.
i’ve never investigate the degrees of hell, which sounds a bit like trying to an upgrade (or in this case, a downgrade) on your flight to somewhere…
Some are more difficult to repent from, Ted. A sodomite with a firm purpose of turning away from that sin has a way rougher road than someone who skipped Mass for a few years, or someone who worshiped the class vamp as a goddess.
Not so fast, MIKE. There is more to it than one sentence from the CCC. Do a bit more reading of Church doctrine on the topic and you’ll see.
It is not secret that homosexual activity is extremely dangerous. The one thing not pointed out in this article is in the 20% of siphilus not accounted for in the 80% statistic is the number of men who engage in bi-sexual activity with women, i.e. men who contracted the disease from men and transmitted it to women who in turn transmitted themselves to their partners. I don’t understand why anyone would ever participate in something so dangerous.
Well, duh! There were some good things about the black and white era that President Obama denigrates — STDs were rare, divorces were rare, most children had a father at home, no campus mass murders, commercials and T.V. sitcoms were worth watching (not soft porn) even in front of company, many majorities and minorities owed their own businesses and on and on. The times were not perfect, but they were decent. for most people here. If bringing back the “black and white” era means returning to decency, let’s go for it. Of course somethings we can never go back to but returning to decency we can. And by decency, I do not mean putting our heads in the sand, going into denial, and not saying when something is really wrong.
Yes! Decency! That is a concept almost lost today!
A day may come when the only moral thing to do is for the Catholic Church to remove all its Institutions from San Francisco: Churches, Schools, Hospitals,) Charities, Chancery offices ( where poor catholicism BEGINS anyway) and let the catholics who really care follow suit.
Michael, that would be denying “social justice.”
Do you notice that “entertainment” shows, (i.e. “the culture”) while glorifying and encouraging both aberrant and normal sexual behavior, NEVER mention disease. God forbid anyone should ever be discouraged from doing “what comes natural” because of the possibility of disease. I wonder what the disease rate is among idolized celebrities.
Sodom by the Sea
Yes! And the folks in modern day Gomorrah (NYC) aren’t far behind on the perversity scale.
Well, sure sounds like the Biblical admonition, “THE WAGES OF SIN ARE DEATH” is being spookily played out in Sodom by the bay. And for some, the fact that they are living a decidedly DEPRAVED lifestyle that invites the Biblical phrase to be fulfilled means nothing.The vast number of homosexuals marinating in their loathsome sexual practices are in such a delusionary state that they seem to INVITE the consequences that are always attendant upon such a, once again, lifestyle. Certainly there’s the element of the demonic in the way they ferociously INSIST that they’re right, and normal heteros are wrong. Male rectal chlamydia and gonorrhea, and what repulsive images these awful diseases conjure up,even though,sure,there’s an awful lot of heterosexuals who are very promiscuous today, at least these two self-inflicted afflictions won’t be their usual lot. And then there’s gay bowel syndrome; now THERE’S a disease for the twentieth and twenty-first centuries, God help us all and GOD BLESS ALL,MARKRITE .
Hello, Markrite…God bless you too. I went to a doctor’s website about the various health hazards of homosexual behavior and it took me awhile to get over that. Do you think many of them realize the dangers until it’s too late? Do they care so little for their own lives or those of their partners? For an American president to give his wholehearted approval to something so degrading and unhealthy (not to mention totally against God’s law) is very wrong. It shows such a callous and heartless understanding. Ironically, it is especially sad for these unfortunate people that society is caving in to their demands,for rather than staying strong and offering a standard of decent behavior and moral integrity that would offer them a plumb line to show their deviancy , we’re giving in to their own self-destruction.
Why do you refer to the “homosexualist” “Bay Area Reporter”? Homosexualist is not a word in the dictionary. It is just a demeaning slang term. I don’t think it is good journalism to use insulting slang terms directed at groups of people that some people look down on. I note that when I type the term “homosexualist” it is underlined in red as a misspelling.
THE EDITOR REPLIES: Ironically, Mark, the term ‘homosexualist’ was reportedly coined by, of all people, Gore Vidal. It is by no means pejorative. And it can be found in several unabridged dictionaries. It means someone or some thing that promotes homosexuality as a political cause.
PA, I know of no respectful terms for homosexual practicioners.
Mark from PA: How does “sodomite” sound to you?
Juergensen, I know that is what some people here view me as and I have learned to accept it.
Mark from PA, I don’t know what you are talking about.
Mark from PA: You are so hung up on the worldly view of acceptance of homosexuality that you are so quick to disregard authentic Catholic Doctrine and the reality that homosexuality is both dangerous and evil. How is it you continue to vehemently post comments that oppose the exposition of lies promoted by the gay community? It is as if you would rather make someone feel good about their homosexuality and their immoral actions so not to offend their feelings while completely not thinking about the eternal repercussions of their actions. Mark, many people have spent several years trying to teach you authentic doctrine on this topic, yet you pretend to acknowledge the truth and come back spouting how people are born that way and how anyone opposed to homosexuality is mean and hurtful. Mark, it is you who is mean and hurtful for not defending the truth and the hurtfulness that you are committing is in not caring for the souls of people who can easily be led to sin. It is your job as a Christian to lead people away from sin Mark, not providing people with reasons to justify sinful behavior. God Love You.
MD, homosexuality is an orientation and you label it dangerous and evil. In doing so you label gay people as dangerous and evil. Sorry but this is mean and hurtful, especially to young gay people. Many here view the homosexual orientation as a sin so there is little that I can say. Young gay people know that they are hated by some people. They just need to be careful and avoid people that think they are evil and disordered.
Mark from PA: Mark, read the Catechism of the Catholic Church. We have discussed this many times on this site. Homosexuality is an activity, SSA is the orientation. The CCC specifically states in 2357 “Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex.” Mark, not relations…this means sexual activity. Mark, you continually to twist terms. Stop telling people that you agree with Catholic doctrine and accept the CCC and turning around and spouting remarks like this that are contrary to Catholic teaching. The whole point you continually refuse to accept is that SSA is an inclination to sin, not a sin, but a proclivity towards a particular sin. You continually distort the distinction between desire and activity and by doing so provide justification to sin. Mark, this is wrong and you seem to be intentionally distorting the truth. Why do you do this Mark? Why are you not being faithful to the teachings of the Catechism?
MD, I have relations with gay men. This does not mean that I engage in sexual activity with them. Homosexuality refers to people who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. I don’t disagree with this. You refer to SSA which is just another term for homosexuality. The term SSA is not really used in the area where I live. I have never heard this term used where I live. I am not providing justification to sin, I am just say that the homosexual orientation is not sinful, just as a heterosexual orientation is not in and of itself sinful.
Mark from PA: I provided you with a direct quote from the catechism Mark. The word relations in the Catechism is referring to coitus, not friendship. You are playing a game of semantics with the Catechism. The CCC is clear Mark, yet you keep muddying the waters by playing word games that in turn serve to justify immorality. The difference between SSA, i.e. the inclination towards homosexuality and the inclination towards heterosexuality is that the inclination towards homosexuality is disordered, a notion you have tried to dispute although the CCC specifically states that this inclination is disordered in 2358 where it states “This inclination, which is objectively disordered.” Mark, it is an inclination towards a sinful behavior and that is why it is disordered. Just as any sick person goes to see a doctor for a malady they possess, so a person with SSA should seek the doctor of souls, Jesus Christ for healing, strength and guidance. God Love You.
PA, why do you not believe that Jesus heals, cures and delivers souls from the power of sin? What do you see as the purpose of Jesus Christ?
PA you are perfect example of the diaster that has hit the Church, you are always so worried about someone having their feelings hurt, you mirror the effemiized clergy that has overrun an office that should be held authentic masculine men…When I see your posts I am convinced more that every that gays should be barred from the clergy and all gays in the clergy should be purged from it… I am sure you will respond in your typical touchy feely way… man you would not have survived 2 minutes in my world…God help the Church.. Oh Lord Please rescue your Church from this blight of gay-effeminate Clergy and send us men like your Son Jesus Christ who was and is the perfect man..Amen
Editors, before I came to your site I never saw the word homosexualist. In fact I can truthfully say that I have never ever heard anyone say this word. I consider the word to be pejorative and insulting. I see the word as a word used by people who dislike gay people to refer to gay people and people that like and sympathize with gay people.
Look, Mark from PA, just because you have never heard of a word does not mean that it does not legitimately exist in the English language. It may simply reflect your ignorance. As to it being “pejorative and insulting” that may be your opinion, but an opinion is just an opinion, and in this case it is patently wrong.
Stop whining about imaginary insults and grow up!
Mark from PA: The Editor gave you more than a sufficient reply on the meaning of the word homosexualist. It is a real word Mark with a real meaning as demonstrated by the editor. Man up and accept that there is a homosexual agenda that is in complete contradiction with Catholic Moral Teaching. Why do you continually accept action in your so-called acceptance of people? I have a couple friends who have same sex attraction who are men because they can acknowledge their attraction as disordered as they strive to live a life of sanctity. That is truly manly Mark, not hiding under the false notion of “this is how God made me.” Be a man, not a child always ready to provide excuses, but a man who admits weakness and seeks strength from the Lord. God Love You.
Mark from PA, As I remember you once said that you had never heard of the word “concupiscence.” Remarkable given the fact that you claim to be a faithful and educated Catholic who teaches catechism to children (which is troubling in itself given you are a homosexualist).
Gravey, I went to 12 years of Catholic school and never heard the words concupiscence or homosexualist. What I did learn is that God is love and that as Catholics we were brothers and sisters in Christ. I also learned “Whatsoever you do to the least of these my brothers, that you do unto me.” My elementary years were heavy on the Baltimore Catechism. We had to memorize a lot of questions but we also had Bible history books that we would read from. It seems that my background is different from many of the posters here. I still have never heard anyone say the word homosexualist. So you call me this Gravey but nobody has ever used this word around me. I continue to have this word underlined in red as a misspelling.
Mark from PA, It’s not that your background is different, it’s your self-centeredness. Your “act’ is shameful.
God is Love, indeed PA, but your school never bothered to teach you what love consists of. For example, God is Love and destroyed two homosexual cities, and prescribed the death penalty for sodomy. Jesus carries this into the Gospel era by saying anyone who harms one of His little ones is better off being executed to death. And by proclaiming that homosexuality is good, you condemn yourself.
Mark from PA: If you did in fact grow up reading the Baltimore Catechism, then concupiscence is a word you should be familiar with. Read Question 264 that asks about the inclination toward evil with the answer that says the inclination towards evil is called concupiscence. Mark, you can’t make an excuse that if you have not heard of a word, it is not a real word or does not have meaning to use in the Church. Your feel good, sinners can do nothing wrong mentality is incorrect Mark. We can sin, we are tempted to sin and satan is trying to trick us into sin and this is a reality that all of us have to face. God Love You.
Rectal gonorrhea? Wow. Syphilis rampant, but they do not disclose the number of AIDS infections together with the other sexually transmitted diseases. Aids
seems to be politically protected, causing many infections. And the band played on. Arghh.
Politically protected – of course! Many years ago – at a time when it was still accepted that medical authorities had a duty to inform about infectious and communicable diseases in order to protect the next of kin, and for the good of society in general – it was decided that doctors were not allowed to inform about aids, not even the wife of a man so infected. How charitable is that? How socially responsible?
Needless to say, things have only got worse since then.
It should have been treated as any other STDs and reported to the spouse and anyone who had had sex with the AIDS carrier. Instead it was treated in a “special” way and many people were harmed by that.
In certain case, though, such as the bathhouses some were so promiscuous that they probably did not even remember how many or with whom they had had sexual relations.
The gay community is trying to hold the world for a ransom, by saying to God that either He gives them what they want or they will destroy everyone. Hmn, yeah, that is what is described in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. The Sodomites wanted something from God that He would not give them. So they did what they had to in order to destroy everyone … They attempted to gang rape two angels of God. “God shall not be mocked”.
JLS, the New York Daily News recently had an article about sexual assaults in the armed forces. “Of the estimated 19,000 reported sexual assaults and rapes in the armed forces last year, the majority were actually committed against men.” (Men were assaulted at a lower rate however.) Dr Curt Gill stated, “This is the supersilent epidemic.” “It is not accepted in our culture that this happens to men, so they are far more ashamed and embarrassed and far less likely to talk about their experiences.” “The majority of attacks are committed by straight men against other straight men as an act of power or violence, but gay men have also suffered.” I bring this up because people need to realize that sexual assaults, including rape, are not about attraction but about power and dominance. In the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, the men of Sodom wanted to exert power against and humiliate the angels.
Utter nonsense PA you are once again trying to shape the issue to your own ends.. by saying look straight men do it too? Well I can assure you that as veteran who served in a hyper masculine force NONE of the straight guys (yes there was 1 or 2 gays) ever sexually assaulted another man. I dont care what this report says, it was probably done by some pointed headed professor looking to skew results who never served in the military
Were their violent assaults (ie fights) yes, but this is what happens when men a confined together for long periods of time, we dont want to have sex with each other. I guess as a gay man you have no idea of authentic masculinty, sure most of us had pent up sexual energy which is why when we were on leave we made use of the local cat houses, it was either that or kill each other,,,,
Please, stop trying to ALWAYS make gays look like a victim and straight men like victimizers or hypocrites, its really getting old
“Made use of the local cat house!” I never knew where they were, Canisius. I was never interested in that garbage. To me getting in fights, sexually assaulting people and making use of cat houses have nothing to do with authentic masculinity. I’ll just take the way God made me, thank you.
Well, MD, do you agree with Canisius about “authentic masculinity”? Since you never disagree with him I am assuming that you agree with his sentiments as expressed in his post of September 6. And yes, Canisius, I have learned much from clergy, who have a much different view of life and of the Church than many of the views expressed here. You would probably view most of the priests that I know with disdain.
Mark from PA: I have shared with you my view of authentic masculinity several times on this site. I 100% agree with the Church on masculinity and believe that Christ is the truest example of masculinity for He is the Perfect Man. Ephesians 5 shows a man how to be masculine as it calls man to lay his life down for his bride as Christ did for the Church. What you don’t see is that we live in a feminized society where men are called to be self-loving, impulse driven egomaniacs that care nothing for anything other than satisfying their temporal desires. Authentic manhood means defending what is right, i.e. the teachings of Christ in the moral law (or natural law) and sacrificing oneself to bring about the better good. You are clearly a product of the 60s for you spout a feminized mentality that came about during the feminist movement that aims at “equality of the genders” which in actuality does not create sameness, but has sought and successfully destroyed the gender roles and gender differences between man and woman. Your viewpoints are different from what you see on this site because you have bought into the feminized culture and listened to the few remaining feminized priests who don’t teach the Masculinity of Christ, but a perverted notion of equality that has blurred the lines of femininity and masculinity. Please read my 7:59 AM response to you on Sept. 6. God Love You.
Hear Ye Hear Ye,
On this 10th day of September in the year 2012 @ 8:30 am, the little kingdom of California Catholic Daily was given a wonderfully inspired gift. : )
Let all men and women of good will pay close attention to the incredibly beautiful masculine words of MD. It has been reported that angelic harps could be heard at the time of this rare and treasured post. Let all men and women wisely listen to these powerfully truthful words or stubbornly ignore them at their own peril. I have also been notified by the town crier that MD is to receive the honor of the hour for such an excellent Catholic post befitting for the King. May God continue to bless MD for his mighty fine example of charity and masculinity in our little kingdom of CCD.
“Authentic manhood means defending what is right”, i.e. the teachings of Christ in the moral law (or natural law) and sacrificing oneself to bring about the better good.”
So all this Chuck Norris/Clint Eastwood/Sylvester Stallone/Bruce Willis stuff is because of feminization? Feminists created couch potatoes and romote control nazis? What about motorcross? Paintball? GTL? Strip clubs? We better stop the feminizaton now. Let’s make them clean the toilets.
Catherine: Thank you for the kind words. My words come from the example of many good and holy men I have had the honor of knowing in my life, not on my own works, but because of the Grace of God. God Love You.
K: Did you read my post? The actors you mentioned play fictional characters that sometimes reflect masculinity because they depict men of character, steadfast to preserve the truth and are willing to die defending the truth. The perversion of the flesh has indeed grown because of the so-called equality and equalization of the sexes. Our culture is trying to promote a genderless mentality and denies that men and women were created different and possess gifts that complement one another. Being masculine means being a man of principle and defending justice, family, etc…doing what is right at any cost. As I shared with PA, a man with same sex attraction can be a truly masculine man when he identifies his attraction, acknowledges that it is disordered and looks to grow as a man of God in holiness and virtue. I know men who are in this situation and I truly admire their masculinity because they exemplify manhood in striving to be virtuous, striving to please the Lord before themselves and are willing to make the sacrifices necessary to be holy. As I stated earlier, manliness is striving to be like the True Man, Jesus Christ. God Love You.
MD, I think you nailed it when you said that men were self-loving impulse-driven egomaniacs that care for nothing but satisfying their own temporal desires. I thought it was interesting that you attributed it to feminization. It was that part of your post that I was responding to. Catherine exalted the other part of the post which was the part you brought out that real men stand up for the right. Men are very looked down on in our society. If you have ever shopped for Father’s Day cards vs. Mother’s Day cards you will know what I mean.
K: Thank you. The feminization of men is rooted in the destruction of gender identity taking place in our society today. Secular feminism is in complete opposition from Catholic feminism because secular feminism focuses on sameness where Catholic feminism highlights the differences and shows how these differences help women make men better men and how femininity is needed in society. What has happened is women have tried worked to take on the role of men in our society and men have submitted and become weak and self-loving. If men were men, they would take care of the children they fathered, but in some circumstances they can’t. An example of this is a man cannot choose to save the life of his unborn child if the mother wants an abortion because the law won’t let him. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Our society has emasculated men. Just look at the TV and see men wearing makeup, getting waxed and doing these so-called metro-sexual trend. I apologize for ranting. I hope you get the gist of what I am saying. God love you.
The funny thing here is I wrote all of this for Mark from PA who has yet to reply.
k writes, “I think you nailed it when you said that men were self-loving impulse driven egomaniacs that care for nothing but satisfying their own temporal desires.” No k, it is actually YOU that is nailing yourself by sounding extremely bitter and angry at men.
The reason that you and the poster max spoke disrespectfully to Father Karl is that you resented Father Karl’s true statement about how the priests used to be able to count on the help of good faithful sisters. That truth really bothered you too. Now you are using that same anger to twist the intended meaning of MD’s words about men in general. For the record k, you sometimes do sound like an individual who wants to be faithful to the teachings of the Catholic Church but in certain specific areas some yeast is still missing and it always keeps you from rising to the fullness of truth.
You just chastised Ken Fisher for his truthful statement about a statue. You said that all statues of Mary are to be spoken of respectfully even though you may not like the artist. Now k, while it is true that we do not know if someone is a Catholic priest by their posting the name Father, you were publicly disrespectful to someone who posts as Father Karl. Even though you may not like what he said, readers will think that you are not consistent when you directly talk that way to an alter-Christus. You wanted Ken Fisher to speak in different terms about *a statue* of Mary but you or max could not bring yourself to treat a poster who posts as a priest with the dignity that the sacred priesthood deserves. The poster named Father Karl said nothing wrong and your anger got the best of you and you attacked him. k, Be honest! You would still be angry with a priest for saying what Father Karl said, even if he was standing right in front of you wearing his collar. k, There are some very bad men and their are some very bad women. No matter who has deeply hurt you in the past, it does not mean that all men are bad or that all women are bad. MD and Father Karl both posted with honesty and wisdom yet your anger is placing veils over your own eyes and your own heart.
Catherine, it was a social commentary (and humor), not an angry bitter statement and it was MD who said it. The thing in Father Karl’s post that made him sound like he wasn’t a priest was what he said that the Pope said that the Pope didn’t actually say and calling the sisters the “grey panthers.” Priests don’t tell people to leave the church. So if Father Karl is a priest, he did not act like an alter Christus at that time and that would be why I would question his identity as a priest. I was not angry at him. Lots of people on CCD post that way. If a priest was standing in front of me and said that the Pope said people should leave, I would say respectfully, “Father, the Pope did not say that.” and if he called the sisters grey panthers I would say “I haven’t heard that term for a long time.” I have no anger toward men, women, priests, MD, Father Karl or you. As for being without yeast in certain areas, you are mixing up what Christ said. But, yes I am always still searching for the fullness of faith. Hope and love, too. God love you, Catherine. At least you tried to stand up for what you think is right.
MD, your development of explaining the truth to such confused souls as PA is remarkable. Exceedingly excellent efforts!!!
MD, OK I see we have two different concepts going here-feminization and feminism. I live in the South. We don’t have many metrosexuals around here and the traditional gender roles still hold. Women who work outside the home still are responsible for home and child care and their incomes go to the family so everyone benefits. Lower classes of women work because they have to or the family can’t have a home. Feminism is probably more, like you said, a secular issue so in an area where 97% of the population is Christian it only is viewed negatively. Feminization of men? Ummm…no. Haven’t seen it here. Maybe on TV, but people don’t watch those kind of shows.
PA, the military today has become a money game. It has become the playground of perverse politicians, who have stacked the ranks with sodomites. Same thing they did to the seminaries. PA, the military is a fighting organization; those without any fight should not be there. 19,000 men assaulted sexually! Those types should not be there in the first place, and those who sexually assaulted them should not be there either. The fools who sign them up are now complaining that it is a problem … PA, no army like that could win a battle against a formiddable foe … what we are seeing today in no way has to do with a militarily formiddable foe. Most of the politically appointed generals are pantywaists, which anyone can see. But like the Catholic clergy, there are indeed solid senior officers. At the beginning of the Civil War, eg, the pantywaitst Union generals had their panties wasted really fast by the Confederacy. Same dynamics in many wars. The pretty boys running the show are knocked out fast and replaced by the down and no holds barred warrior types.
All behavior has everything to do with all our lives and history, Men and woman are to have NO sex until married, and only with the ones they marry, and thats for life. I believe thats the way God intended it. It’s really as simple as that and when we as humans go against God’s law, all humanity suffers.
…until the death of one of the spouses. Yes, of course, this is what God intends. Look how much suffering is caused by breaking 10 simple commandments.
When they do, then Jesus enters the picture and presents restoration, redemption and salvation.
Young Gay men will catch AIDS, syphilis and rectal gonorrhea. Now I learn Gay men wanted to have sex with angels. Wow.
Gratias, those men probably weren’t gay. See my post of 9/5, 9:37 PM. Again sexual assault has nothing to do with attraction, it is about power.
Why were they probably not gay PA, is it in your mind that gays can never do wrong, and can only be victims
Those men were homosexuals and conspired against God. The current myth that PA carries on is nothing but garbage. All these fake adults are about is to destroy, just like the Sodomites tried to destroy God’s angels.
You might try reading the Bible, Gratias. Reading Scripture, even all of it, makes for a big boost in understanding what CCC and other Church documents are about.
Mark from PA: I am awaiting a few replies…
You do realize that if homosexuals were actually allowed to have the tools to form a healthy relationship they would not be having so many partners don’t you?
It’s awfully unchristian to put people in a lose-lose situation and then berate them for it. They do grow up after all hearing that they’ve destroyed their humanity by not being heterosexual.