The following comes from a June 26 Catholic News Agency article:
In a wide-reaching decision, the U.S. Supreme Court has declared that same-sex “marriage” is a constitutional right and that states must recognize same-sex unions.
By a vote of 5-4, the court ruled June 26 that states must recognize same-sex “marriages” under the 14th Amendment, and recognize such unions contracted in other states.
Justice Anthony Kennedy, writing the majority opinion, said the court now holds that same-sex couples may “exercise the fundamental right to marry.” He characterized this as a liberty that had been denied to them.
Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Antonin Scalia, Clarence Thomas and Samuel A. Alito dissented and, in an unusual step, each wrote separate opinions.
“The majority’s decision is an act of will, not legal judgment,” Roberts said. “The right it announces has no basis in the Constitution or this court’s precedent.”
“Five lawyers have closed the debate and enacted their own vision of marriage as a matter of constitutional law,” he said.
Justice Antonin Scalia characterized the decision as a “threat to American democracy,” “hubris” and a “judicial putsch.”
Justice Thomas said the decision means that conflict between the recognition of same-sex marriage and religious liberty appears “all but inevitable” as individuals and churches face demands to participate and endorse in these marriages. The use of the judicial process “short circuits” the political process that could consider religious freedom implications, “with potentially ruinous consequences for religious liberty.”
Similarly, Justice Alito said the decision “will be used to vilify Americans who are unwilling to assent to the new orthodoxy.” He objected to the majority’s comparison of traditional marriage laws to laws that denied equal treatment for African-Americans and women, saying this analogy’s implications “will be fully exploited by those who are determined to stamp out every vestige of dissent.”
Justice Kennedy’s decision claimed that it “demeans gays and lesbians for the State to lock them out of a central institution of the Nation’s society.”
“Same-sex couples, too, may aspire to the transcendent purpose of marriage and seek fulfillment in its highest meaning.”
Chief Justice Roberts said that a fundamental right to marry “does not include a right to make a state change its definition of marriage” and a decision to maintain marriage as a union of a man and a woman “can hardly be called irrational.”
Justice Thomas objected to the majority decision’s use of the legal principle of substantive due process, saying the court was “wiping out with a stroke of the keyboard the results of the political process in over 30 states.” The decision was an “inversion of the original meaning of liberty.”
Satan reigns triumphantly over this land, for now. But no matter how powerful he looks, he too will in the end fall.
The moral, social, and economic ruin of this country has been painful to observe. I now know how 5th century Roman Christians like St. Augustine saw the world.
The lax bishops and priests, who don’t have to live with the fallout of this decision, will say and do little in response to this. Good luck to you laity whose businesses and professions now have little to no legal protection against this perversion.
After Sunday Mass, I told the priest that he missed the opportunity to speak about the Church’s teaching on marriage. He said “there’s a time and a place for that”. Given that the Supreme Court’s outrageous decision was handed down just 2 days earlier, clearly this “man of God” has no interest in speaking His truths, ever.
Pray that we laity have the strength to go out as martyrs, for the persecutions are just getting started.
Kristin who is this priest? What parish? I want to personally call him and encourage him to act. I hope its ok to ask because we need to put the pressure on them more than ever.
It was after the 10 am Mass in Santa Fe, NM at the Cathedral Basilica of St. Francis of Assisi. The priest was a Nigerian man, I believe his name was Fr. Stephen.
My husband also spoke to the priest, telling him, “I agree with my wife, there is a time to speak out”. Sadly, the priest did not respond. As out of town vacationers, the full church was lovely to see. Too bad the people of New Mexico did not hear word one on the court decision that will lead to such awful consequences.
We are the Church Militant and we must speak up, even if to deaf ears.
Thanks kristin for the info. God bless you. Jesus bless you today with His powerful voice and strength. I pray JESUS BLOOD over you and all who fight the good fight, for His protection and to empower us. Amen.
Jail Time 4 Thought Crime is the Gaystapo Way of ‘tolerance’ – Told Ya So:
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Mexican bishop and his clergy: We will go to jail rather than bless gay ‘marriages’
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/mexican-bishop-and-his-clergy-we-will-go-to-jail-rather-than-bless-gay-marr? June 25, 2015
Following a declaration by the Mexican Supreme Court nullifying state laws prohibiting “marriage” to people of the same sex, Nuevo Laredo Bishop Gustavo Rodríguez Vega has issued his own declaration along with the clergy of his diocese, assuring the faithful that he will suffer imprisonment rather than cooperate with such unions.
“They can’t require an institution like this Church to go against its principles,” the archdiocesan clergy are quoted…
Gosh, McDermott,
A Bishop saying that they could go to prison for refusing to marry gay couples doesn’t mean that is the law. While I am hardly competent in Mexican jurisprudence, pure logic tells you that.
Maybe if you had paid attention during Evidence, you would have remembered the basis for the hearsay rule.
Now we have 2 major Supreme Court decisions where the dissenting opinions are not over interpretations of the law but are accusing the majority of disregarding the law. This is serious, no matter what you think of the decisions.
And Kennedy and Roberts, the writers of the majority opinions in those cases, are both Roman Catholic.
incorrect with respect to the chief justice. he issued a vigorous dissent in the same-sex marriage case.
With Roberts, I was referring to King v. Burwell, in which he wrote the majority opinion. I assumed that was one of the two court cases “anonymous” was referring to.
yes
Great job by the AmChurch bishops who have failed to teach the faith for the past 50 years. And, great job too by the USCCB, which has repeatedly issued documents (e.g., “Faithful Citizenship”) that have given a green light to Catholics to vote for the party of abortion and sodomy. “By their fruits you shall know them.” Matt. 7:16.
Where is our Pope when we need(ed) him ?
We needed a short concise Encyclical on MORALS –
– homosexual acts, and homosexual marriage;
– fornication;
– adultery (sexual acts with the valid spouse of another);
– Pornography; – Contraception.
We did not need an Encyclical on climate change, or the Pope making a recommendation for a one world authority with power for: law making, policing and enforcing, and taxing unlimited funding.
What is wrong with this picture ?
Because silence implies consent. He said nothing on the Irish disaster either.
Silence does not imply consent at all.
There are sins of OMISSION as well as Commission.
Will money speak louder than Faith? Will our Church listen to God or the dollar?
All Catholic organizations including but not limited to – Universities,
and USCCB Charities (CRS, Catholic Charities, and CCHD who receive Federal Funding GRANTS – will have to conform to the RULES of the government Grants.
Only freedom of ‘speech about religion’ appears to protected in the SCOTUS ruling, nothing else is.
When Diocese Bishops do NOT teach, correct, and if necessary excommunicate Catholics who cause public Scandal – then this decision is to be expected.
Anything goes; there is no mortal right or wrong = it is all relativism.
Of the 9 Justices, 6 advertise themselves to be Catholic, 3 purport to be Jewish.
Well, at least the 4 dissenters on this one were Catholic.
God will bless Chief Justice Scalia and Justices Thomas, Roberts and Alito for standing firm on what is right.
But NOW will the Ordinary of the dioceses that Justice Kennedy attends Sunday Mass DENY HIM TO RECEIVE HOLY COMMUNION? If there ever was a flagrant example of cooperation with sin it is him ON A HUGE SCALE!
If the bishops do NOT reprimand him for his own soul and for a national scandal, no one should listen to their words.
Why is it in a Civil Court that a Jury must be unanimous in its decision,
and the Supreme Court on a vote of 5 to 4 can make a decision that is binding on all people in the United States?
Is this not border line Dictatorship by the 5 ?
The 13 States must refuse to accept this judgement by 5.
The Roman Cathoilic Church and other Christian Denominations, that oppose this decision, must now call it Matrimony in place of Marriage, as it is only Marriage that has been granted to those with non-conformist sexual attitudes.
Well Brian, a jury in a civil action does NOT have to be unanimous.
You’re thinking of a criminal jury. It must be unanimous because of the “beyond a reasonable doubt” standard in criminal law.
Not Marriage or Matrimony, but Sodarriage or Sodimony.
No, it’s marriage.
peter for godless people like yourself its marraige. Fear the Lord and turn away from sin. I understand that sin blinds souls and makes slaves of people. May our holy Jesus Christ return and destroy the lies of the enemy. So you and all sinners alike can see the truth. Pax Christi
In the area of civil marriage, it is a marriage-but what does that mean? What is marriage?
I have not read the courts decision. Did they open up marriage for anybody of any age of any relation? Is it limited to two people? Do the same sex people have to be gay or lesbian or can they be just two people who love each other? Do they have to love each other? Is consummation necessary? What constitutes consummation?
Has anybody read it? What exactly did they say? States can’t decide who does and doesn’t marry?
Not marriage never has been and never will be.
Anonymous if a person crumbled a gooey chocolate chip cookie into a ball and threw it in the toilet, then proceeded to tell people that its poop. Is it poop? Does it smell like poop? No its not poop. Its a ball of chocolate chip cookie. If these judges are delutional, we need to turn them over to a mental facility. In this case, they better hope for that to happen then to end up in hell for eternity for imposing acts against the natural law.
We must be stronger in our faith than ever before. The days are darkening. We have entered the age of madness, if not outright demonic rule. May God have mercy upon us and grant us His Strength. May the Blessed Virgin pray for us. May St. Joseph pray for us. May St. Michael the Archangel and the Heavenly angels pray for us. +JMJ+
Give them enough rope and they’ll hang themselves.
Within a few years if not less, I fully expect gays demanding the Church bless their marriages or remove their tax exempt status or some other threat. I further expect violent mobs to start destroying Parishes in the name of tolerance of course. Its going to happen, its now time choose sides do you hear me C&H, YFC JonJ and the rest of the homo-apologists… Its Christ and His Church or the corrupt culture that you people have helped bring about… choose now….May God Have Mercy on this country but may His Wrath purify it….
So, it begins. The editorial board of PennLive/The Patriot-News in Harrisburg, Pa. is taking a hardcore stance against those who disagree with the Supreme Court ruling to legalize gay marriage.
“As a result of Friday’s ruling, PennLive/The Patriot-News will no longer accept, nor will it print, op-Eds and letters to the editor in opposition to same-sex marriage,” they declared.
This is the beginning of the war against free speech in our once-great nation. Those who once demanded “tolerance” are now applying the hard screws of censorship to those who do not agree that so-called “gay marriage” is a good thing and in fact is is destructive to the institution of true marriage and to the very fabric of our country. How far has our…
How far has our nation decended, what was once regarded as a disgusting perversion has now been vested with the dignity of a “right.”It is very similar to the “right” of a mother to murder her unborn child, manufactured by the Supremes under the “penumbra” of privacy and which has resulted in the killing of over 50 million human beings since 1973. The door has been kicked open to the full range of evils that we flawed humans are heir to. If you whine loud enough, all your desires will be granted under the filthy banner of “Equality.”
Be warned, if the majority of decent Americans have not been infected by the rot of LIBERALISM AND POLITICAL CORRECTNESS, and are pushed too far, there will be a day of reckoning that will make…
I doubt it comes to that.
Where we will see the problems is in the Church’s hiring practices in things like Catholic Hospitals, Catholic Charities, Catholic schools.
We wil see, and already are seeing, homosexuals attempting to compel goods and services from christian businesses. In most cases, Christians should not refuse commerce with homosexuals. For example, Catholic car mechanics should have little to no qualms about fixing a gay person’s car. just like any other sinner. In fact, a catholic emergency room physician or EMT should not refuse to treat an LBGT individual, That would be immoral.
The problems have been when homosexuals want to compel Catholic service providers to participate (at least tangentially) in gay…
Christian small business owners must NOT be FORCED to remotely – participate in the celebration of any known Mortal Sins including but not limited to:
Sodomy & Sodomy Marriage, Fornication, Adultery (sexual relationship with the valid spouse of another), etc.
Nor should ALL taxpayers be FORCED to $ support intrinsic evils which violate their Faith through their taxes or purchase goods whose companies support intrinsic evils – abortion, contraception, sodomy marriage benefits, soon euthanasia, etc
Hosemonkey,
You do realize that a privately owned business has the right to make editorial decisions?
It’s not a free speech problem until a private business, or private individual, is banned by law from expressing a negative opinion about gay marriage.
Being socially unpopular, and being socially stigmatized by a private party isn’t a constitutional violation. In fact, it falls within their free speech and free association rights.
The problem comes with homosexuals declared to be a protected class. The civil rights laws do violate a number of constitutional freedoms, but are allowed based on the premise they exist to repair even worse constitutional abuses suffered by the protected class.
I generally don’t like these…
Don’t worry Canisius…If a mob attacks my parish…for any reason ….and the police, sheriff’s dept. highway patrol or National Guard, can’t handle it, I’ll be there to drive them off with my Sears 20 gauge over and under.
C&H,
When the mobs come in California, the police won’t do anything to protect your church.
C&H you don’t get it, the authorities will be on side of the mobs, you gays now control the handles of power… I fully expect in my lifetime a red martyrdom at the hands of secular liberals and their gay allies.
Well Steve, I guess it’ll just be me, a couple of guys who hunt and the elderly lady from the Altar Society who’s in to archery.
We control the handles of power now? Great! Next time a cop stops me, can I just say “It’s all right officer, I’m a lesbian” and not get a ticket?
Canusis ..Many, many years from now, when you are about to peacefully die of natural causes with your loved ones around you, I hope you don’t think “Darn! I didn’t get to be a martyr!”
Really … people on this forum ought to have a little more sense of humor.
Why C&H to die for Christ is the greatest honor a Catholic could earn. I doubt I have many years in front of me, and very few loved ones, martyrdom is something I really, really hope for. If I could spit the face of this corrupt society and the gay thugs that run it, before they kill me, nothing would satisfy me more. BTW seeing the society being ripped to be pieces is not a matter of humor….
It’s funny because it makes your head explode, Canisius. ;)
peter your one to talk. Your hatred towards the natural law makes your own head spin. If only you would love Jesus more. This pagan society gave their answer to : who do you love more? Jesus or your homosexuality? They voted against loving Jesus. Just like you are here. Shame on you. Leave Canisius alone.
….folks don’t comprehend the spiritual aspects of martyrdom, Canisius. The why is often because they really don’t understand the Faith. It’s not being taught as it should be. And often, it’s not taught at all. Or worse, the Deposit of the Faith is substituted for compromise doctrine so that everyone can supposedly get along in a state of manufactured ignorance.
God bless!
When will each bishop and priest begin to teach the basics of the Catechism? If the faithful had been instructed in the basic tenets of the faith for all these decades, people in the pews would not have tolerated people to be friendly to the idea of sodomy marriage. There are few parochial schools and few nuns to teach in them. Seeing this serious need for instruction, the dioceses should have provided not just CCD Sunday schools for children, but also classes for adults. We all need to be reminded of what is required of us, but inspired. Where are the lay teachers for adult schools? Also, chipping away at marriage is the acceptability of divorce and the widespread use of contraception. Is it any wonder that many Catholics choose to…
Our country is doomed – just like Denmark, which legalized same-sex marriage way back in 2012!
Since that year, Denmark has sunk so low that we read the following about the dire conditions in that country:
“Denmark ranked first in the list issued by world Happiness Report because it has zero crime rates, murder, no corruption, and stability in economic growth, quality life, etc. All these things made it as one of the best, happiest and safest countries to live in the world. Nearly 18 weeks of paid leave is given to mothers and 79 percent of women are working which is comparatively higher than other countries. People in this country are more concerned about their environment and they follow excellent health care system.”
Obviously, gay…
Anonymous, according to the New York Times (a very liberal news source), both Denmark and Sweden have a very high rate of suicide. If they are so “happy”, why are they killing themselves? Could it be “The Judas Syndrome” catching up with a whole lot of them?
You are obviously blind. Denmark: Huge illigitimacy rate, dismally low birth rate, less than 70% marriage rate, huge influx of moslem immigrants, strong push for sharia law, extinction of Swedes in 50 years, huge tax burden. Bright future, eh? Fools.
The statement by Archbishop Kurtz:
https://usccb.org/news/2015/15-103.cfm
Another Dred Scott decision, and like Dred Scott it too will fall sooner or later. Hopefully before Divine Judgment falls on the nation.
Oh, I forgot we are already suffering Divine Judgment in the form of multiple types of STD’s and AIDS and many related cancers.. Now some “doctors” (quacks in reality) want to cater to the “transdisabled” (those who are mentally ill and think their healthy body parts should be removed). Can the insanity get any worse? We will see. but in the end we know the conclusion of the story. The God of the Bible wins. The Christ who said to the rich young man, “Keep the Commandments (including the ones on sexuality),” wins.
Yes I agree Satan won in the short run, but not in the long run. Sadly many souls will suffer great spiritual, emotional, and bodily carnage over this defiance of God’s Laws. How long will it be before the US suffers His mighty wrath? Not long the way the middle east is going to hell, and they’ll take the rest of the world with it with their terror and nuclear weapons. To think, at least one of these incompetent judges defying God’s Law was a novus ordo member. All five, especially the novus ordo will have a load of great sin to account for on their shoulders on their judgment day. I shudder to think without confession, sorrow, and amendment of their lives, the fires of hell are for eternity. This will open the doors for further…
I find this decision very depressing. The Satanic Forces have taken control of America. One day Obamacare takes our liberty, the next day the destruction of marriage. Tomorrow they will start on the tax exemption of Catholic Parishes untill they perform sodomitic marriages. Then the Evil ones will think of something else, probably transvestism and beyond.
Amazingly, while this is going on Pope Francisco just passed an Encyclical on Global Warming and One-World Government, and the next day moved the conversation straight to blessing of same sex-marriages – which is the main issue of the Synod (not divorce and remarried heterosexuals). This comes after decades of Homoheresy in which gay priests corrupted the Seminaries inflicting the…
Today I saw the cover of The Economist, a mayor liberal publication. You know what the Progressive next aim will be? The Right to Die… by Euthanasia. I kid you not.
Rejoicing over evil………
New Ways Ministry and U.S. Catholics Rejoice at Supreme Court Marriage Equality Decision
https://newwaysministryblog.wordpress.com/2015/06/26/new-ways-ministry-and-u-s-catholics-rejoice-at-supreme-court-marriage-equality-decision/
Prayer taught by an angel to the children at Fatima
“Most Holy Trinity, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, I offer You the most precious Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ, present in all the tabernacles of the world, in reparation for the outrages, sacrileges and indifference with which He Himself is offended. And, through the infinite merits of His most Sacred Heart, and the Immaculate Heart of Mary, I beg of You the conversion of poor sinners.”
I think that it is time for the institutions of the Catholic Church to stop taking money from the government. Not one thin dime. Starting tomorrow.
Last night you could see how much the devil is entrenched in our government.
Obama lit up the exterior of the Whitehouse with all the gay colors to mock those of Faith who believe in Sacred Scripture.
It will be follow God, or follow the money (and the power).
Obama said he would transform the USA if elected, and he has kept his promise.
One Wonders – will all those ‘church of nice types claiming to be catholics’ who put POTUS Barry ‘on the down low’ Soetoro in Office – Come to Visit the rest of us in Prison, once the ‘tolerance’ pogrom they have empowered really flexes its Power – and Jail Time 4 Thought Crime becomes The Pander or Perish Law of Caesar and the Gaystapo?
Really Folks – Expect Prison as the Price of Conscience – where they will at least may allow you to ‘marry’ your cellmate.
Be not afraid! Shout the truth from the rooftops. Be more afraid of what God can do to you than what man can do to you.
Stephen Stills……”Love The One Your With”
During the Fatima apparitions in 1917, the three children witnessed our Blessed Mother holding back the angel of destruction from destroying the earth. It is hard to imagine the world being more sinful then than now. Pray the Blessed Mother continue to protect us through her Son from the angel of destruction.
This is a huge tragedy in our country. Its illegal and abuse of our constitution. We need to put on trial these criminal judges for this abuse of authority to redefine marraige and misinterpret our constitution. Shame on them. This is a very disturbing time in which we find ourselves. Lets pray and fast. Asking our Lord to void this. The big devil money was what it took for these great evils to be imposed on the people of this country.
Take a look at the Jonah case. The Jonah case lost because of lack of funds. Those opposing the Jonah case has more money to fight. Its an injustice when money decides who wins. When Obama won the Presidential vote, that was a tragedy and most saddest time for this country, now look how far he has gone. He managed to destroy what made this country great and Christian. Now its been handed over to the immoral and to the pagans. You can also thank those evil lawyers.
Abeca, JONAH lost because they are frauds; reparative therapy is bogus. Hopefully this case will set things in motion for this abusive practice to be banned nationally. (Actually, I think that was on the LBGT Agenda update I got on the 27th. Wink, wink.)
No peter. Not so. You winked? I have you know that between your winks more souls chose hell.
Well, Catholic Readers, it is time to start over, perhaps somewhere else, but a holy fire is needed to cleanse our land, and then reconstruction can start. Perhaps Democracy is ultimately at fault; if possible, a monarchy based on the divine order is preferable.
Why? Things are “set” in a theocratic model, rather than changeable, as in a Democracy. If Man is sinful by nature, and needing of God to live a holy life and achieve salvation, then leaving it to Man to “make up the rules” can only be doomed to failure. Our legal system is based on Judeo-Christian principles, but was there any argument in the majority opinion about seeking conformity with God and his Church’s teachings? Read history, People, and see if America’s…
(Continued) “early leaders did not give repeated thanks to God for their new country.
Much talk now is given to the incompatibility of “radical Islam” (an oxymoron, as the issue is Islam, but that is for another time) to a pluralistic America. Yet, is this incompatibility anywhere near as dangerous as that of “Satanic Rule” over the hearts and minds of many Americans. We are fighting the Prince of Lies over sodomy rights, not some level of discrimination. Failure to recognize this will lead to failure. Much thanks to Rev. Franklin Graham for saying that the Supreme Court decision is about freeing “sin”.
St. Christopher, you shame your namesake.
Not only are you a bigot with respect to homosexuals, you are a religious bigot as well.
Yes, the problem is radical Islam. I know many moderate muslims who are fine, upstanding people who are not the least bit violent. One of my parent’s neighbors is from Iran, and one of my father’s colleagues in the Kansas City medical community is a Muslim-American physician. I can also cite Muslim-American baseball writer (and dermatologist) Rany Jazayerli.
The hatred you spew is not from God. I will leave as an exercise for the student what the likely source might be.
Look out St C the homo apologist JonJ is upset.. you have violated his speech and thought codes, and have triggered a micro-aggression causing the homo-apologist to get upset and the need to find a safe place.. JonJ nothing you spew comes from God… we are entering a new dark age, but may it start the civil conflict I have been hoping for and purges the Church and Society of liberal filth
Canisius, you are much better when you stick to logic for your point of view. What you have been spewing on this issue borders on, well I’m not sure. But people who speak like you have are usually thought to be dangerous, perhaps silly, or on the verge of a break down. How about resting for a couple of weeks. Don’t even look at this site for two weeks. It just makes you crazy with anger. We are supposed to be a people that brings the love of God to everyone, even those we don’t like, or with whom we disagree on moral terms. Come back refreshed with great ideas rather than attributions of hate.
Bob One, what do you know of anything. You haven’t got the courage to defend God’s Church. All you do think nice thought and sing all will be well, while the enemies of the Church close in around her. Thankfully your generation is dying off, so there will be few of left. The CCD thought police did not publish my last post on how anger and hate protected me against my abuser. I can assure it was magnificent incident and from the moment on she feared me and still does…
No, “JonJ”, you may have won a legal victory, but your vile perversion remains, and will always remain, a mortal sin, a one-way ticket away from God and salvation.
As to “Islam” that is a discussion for another time and place. Sure there are good Muslims, and what choice to they really have in the USA. But take a look at Michigan and OK and other areas even here where there has been extreme violence and crazed demands for Sharia Law.
No hatred here, only love for Jesus Christ, His Church, and His Holy Mother. It was Mary, after all, that is credited with the miracle of Lepanto, where the Mohammedans were defeated from expanding into Europe.
No, “JonJ”, you may have won a legal victory, but your vile perversion remains, and will always remain, a mortal sin, a one-way ticket away from God and salvation.”
Thank you and may God bless you St. Christopher for consistently demonstrating true charity.
Your continued insistence that I am gay when I have repeatedly said that I am heterosexual, shows your fundamental dishonesty, St. Christopher.
GIven the anonymity of the internet, you know you do not have any evidence other than my word. Thus, you are very well aware you are bearing false witness without any factual basis.
Since I have not participated in any litigation related to a homosexual rights case, I have in no way “won” a legal victory. Yet, I am well aware you are attempting to smear me (to your mind) with both accusations to provide false gravitas to your response.
Pathetic.
Btw, I have not “won” a legal victory.
I think Kennedy’s opinion is awful. He basically said that 14th Amendment substansive due process allows the Supreme Court to enforce whatever right’s they really like (as Scalia says).
I largely agree with Thomas’ dissent when it comes to the law. I just don’t agree with how he applies it. He says states have not prevented homosexuals from creating marriage like rights though various powers of attorney, trusts, and other legal constructions. However, he forgets that those constructs can be prohibitively expensive for many people.
Thus, under Thomas’ legal regime gay individuals freedoms have been burdened by the state. Then the question becomes why should the state be allowed to do…
Every American won a legal victory on Friday. As the main witness in favor of Prop 8’s prohibition of same sex marriage testified at that trial, “we would be more American on the day we permitted same-sex marriage than we were on the day before”
YFC,
The more a society gets away from the path that God gave man to walk-and it isn’t just gay marriage that is far from that path (read Laudato Si and the CCC)- the more lost it is. So if by being American you mean being sinful and lost and displeasing to God, then we are more American. “As for me and my household, we will serve the Lord.” Joshua 24:15 Whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s” Romans 14:8
It seems that just as the activities of the bedroom are being celebrated and paraded in the open public square; religion is being told that it must be content with remaining behind the locked doors of one’s home.
Father Michael Cummins, The Alternate Path blog
YFC the only thing you thugs won was an open door to come after the Church, a fight I welcome…. whose side will you be on??? On Friday we became a nation that turned its back on Christ and you praise it…
Jimmy Kimmel had a great monologue Monday night about how the gay marriage ruling is going to take all the fun out of being gay. It is on Youtube.
On Friday, the nation turned toward the recognition of love. That is hardly “against the path that God gave us to walk”. Sorry, #lovewins
God is love. 1 John 4:8
Love did not win. Individualism won. Sin won.
It is the symptom of an even bigger problem that people think love won.
No YFC. Love by your definition is not from God.
True story: a cohabitating couple had a child and broke up when the child was young. They shared custody equally. When the mother had him, he did his homework, brushed his teeth and behaved well. On the days the father kept him, he was allowed to stay up as late as he wanted, to watch whatever he wanted to on TV, to not do his homework and to not brush his teeth. The child preferred to stay with his dad but he loved his mom, too. Both parents loved the child but they had different ways of showing it.
ONe began with the end in mind.
JonJ Christopher is NOT A BIGOT. His convictions against gay agendas are right in line with what our beloved Jesus Christ would expect from all who fear the Lord and seek to honor Him in His natural law. I expect this name calling from your like against those of us who honor God and His natural law. Your judgement is secular not righteousness coming from what our almighty God has already judged.
Actually, he is Abeca.
In the past, St. Christopher has decried the Lawrence v. Texas decision, which involved a statute that criminalized sodomy ONLY FOR HOMOSEXUALS.
Sodomy is also a serious sexual sin under catholic theology when practiced by heterosexuals, since it can in no way lead to procreation. Thus, ST. C’s support for Lawrence without decrying the lack of punishment for heterosexual sodomy, shows his hatred for homosexuals is not based on Catholic doctrine.
Add this to his repeated attempts to smear me with what he knows are unsubstantiated “accusations” reveal his character.
Actually, he is Abeca.
In the past, St. Christopher has decried the Lawrence v. Texas decision, which involved a statute that criminalized sodomy ONLY FOR HOMOSEXUALS.
Sodomy is also a serious sexual sin under catholic theology when practiced by heterosexuals, since it can in no way lead to procreation. Thus, ST. C’s support for Lawrence without decrying the lack of punishment for heterosexual sodomy, shows his hatred for homosexuals is not based on Catholic doctrine.
Add this to his repeated attempts to smear me with what he knows are unfounded “accusations” reveal his character. The CCC requires Catholics to treat homosexuals with “respect and dignity”. Hurling false accusation at someone he believes is a homosexual violates…
JonJ even before Catholicism, in the beginning of time God gave mankind the natural law. So even if a human being is not a Christian., he or she are obligated to honor the natural law. So your excuses to smear Christopher hold no water. Christopher is only echoing the teachings of God’s natural law. You calling Christopher a bigot does not apply. But it doesnt matter what you think. What matters is that the truth be told. I was called a bigot too by Linda Maria and YFC. So i know its not true and i know Christopher knows he is not one either.
Jon J. legislators cannot outlaw everything that is immoral or wrong as the police have more serious crimes to investigate. States chose to outlaw sodomy between men because it was far more dangerous to the body. Contrary to what some want people to believe, sodomy was far less common among heterosexuals as anal cancer and many other STDs are less frequent among heterosexuals. At least that used to be the case, but now that Planned Parenthood and some in Hollywood has taught our children that anything goes, there has been a rise in STD’s among both types of people, heterosexuals and homosexuals. Nevertheless, some STD’s are still more prevalent among practicing homosexuals and rarer among heterosexuals. Common sense should tell one that.
Correction: I should have written that sodomy was far more frequent among homosexuals than heterosexuals, thus the danger to the bodies more serious.
How to spot intolerance: (1) Find a self-appointed champion of tolerance; (2) Disagree with them; (3) Watch them violate their chief virtue
Ahhh, yes, “JonJ”, whatever you are, you enable homosexual sex, a sin that cries to Heaven for vengence. Your distinction regarding Lawrence is laughable; the case is about a State’s ability to sanction homosexual sex (usually with men, usually with anal sex — sodomy).
Whether normal people sometimes engage in sodomy is not the point, and never was. States have every right — except to our corrupt Supreme Court — to limit destructive sexual behavior. Homosexual sex is, by its own terms, anti-nature, and anti-God. We are on the road to perdition, now.
JonJ we do not show lack of respect to homosexuals when we protest their agendas against the Natural law. We do not display a lack of charity towards them just because we speak the truth that they reject and do not want spoken. We do not neglect their dignity when we honor God on acts against chastity and purity, the truth is, it is because we value all human life no matter what sins they embrace, that we must speak the truth. You are forgetting that homosexual acts are sinful and they do not get special treatment just because they come from homosexuals choosing to sin. Just like heterosexual sins, we must speak the truth. To all human beings. Its you who wants special treatment to that type of sexual sins.
Abeca, how am I seeking “special” treatment for homosexual sin BY INSISTING THAT HETEROSEXUAL SODOMY BE TREATED THE SAME?
I have no problem with Catholics living according to their faith. What I have a problem with is people like St. C, who do everything they can to provide reasons to particularly hate homosexuals, (since they disgust him). Homosexual sinner should be treated like all other sinners.
But, historically, and even here, many believe homosexuality should be a reason to fire them from jobs, while no one would dream of firing someone for being a fat glutton—or a fornicator, or a masturbator, ect.
SC …If we switch to a monarchy who decides who gets to be King
Christ is King, C&H.
One thing I know for sure, C&H, my king is not your king.. You follow a false god.
Anne ..In our imperfect ways both you and I follow the one God in three persons.
C&H what does it mean to YOU, to follow the One true God? As imperfect as we all are, we are all sinners but not all sinners deliberately choose to disobey God.
Abeca …. Every time we sin don’t we deliberately choose to disobey God? Isn’t that what free will is all about? What sins are without deliberation, even if formed in an instant?
C&H, there is a Spanish saying, “To sin is human, but to brag about it is of the devil.” No, you do not worship the same God nor the same Christ I do because my God, my Christ, my Holy Trinity forbids sex between two men or two women. Your idol encourages it. End of discussion.
Bravo Anne T. Well said!
“[F] ailure to always fulfill our Christian obligations is not the same as the decision to reject specific obligations, teachings, commandments and requirements set by the Lord. It is inevitable – though no less deserving of our repentance –that we will sin. But our moral failings must not cloud our belief in the truth of Christ’s teachings. And believing in that truth, we must not fail to proclaim it”
Cardinal Donald Weurl, Being Catholic Today: Catholic Identity in an Age of Challenge June 2015
A “happy problem” if such a circumstance arose.
The Gaystapo Thought Police are already busy Enforcing the Pander or Perish Mandate (by 1 vote) from above them, if not the rest of us:
SEE
Harrisburg, PA Newspaper Will ‘Strictly Limit’ Op-eds, Letters for Traditional Marriage
https://newsbusters.org/blogs/curtis-houck/2015/06/26/harrisburg-pa-newspaper-will-strictly-limit-op-eds-letters-traditional
“Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, and then it seeks to silence good.” Arch-Bishop Charles J. Chaput
Check out the letter written by the Archbishop of Washington, D.C. about the Court’s ruling. It states the faith surely, and comments on who is welcome in our churches. The Cardinal did a good job, I think.
Orthodox Christians Must Now Learn To Live as Exiles in Our Own Country | TIME
by Rod Dreher
“It is time for what I call the Benedict Option. In his 1982 book After Virtue,the eminent philosopher Alasdair MacIntyre likened the current age to the fall of ancient Rome. He pointed to Benedict of Nursia, a pious young Christian who left the chaos of Rome to go to the woods to pray, as an example for us. We who want to live by the traditional virtues, MacIntyre said, have to pioneer new ways of doing so in community. We await, he said “a new — and doubtless very different — St. Benedict.”
https://time.com/3938050/orthodox-christians-must-now-learn-to-live-as-exiles-in-our-own-country/
From the article Catherine cites…Last fall, I spoke with the prior of the Benedictine monastery in Nursia, and told him about the Benedict Option. So many Christians, he told me, have no clue how far things have decayed in our aggressively secularizing world. The future for Christians will be within the Benedict Option, the monk said, or it won’t be at all.
Yes. This is what Laudato Si is about, not global warming. Care for the environment is part of the Benedictine spirituality. The degradation of the physical environment is a symptom of the disorder of our souls and a return to the traditional spirituality similar to the early Benedictines is what Pope Francis is talking about.
Yes. Finally, someone gets it.
Get off the internet and join a political group. Speak out to strangers. The emperor has no clothes, remember that. In MD, two “married” women can claim to be an infertile married couple, and as such demand sperm from a donor in a clinic. That’s no more infertile than me alone not having a kid. My point? There are enough cases of insanity to point out. But watch out, the left gets violent.
Live an exemplary life. Expect to be mistreated. Love them anyway.
Gay Marriage Particular Judgment
https://www.facebook.com/CatholicMemebase/posts/487503794732701:0
An astute analysis of Scalia’s Dissent
Overthrow the judicial dictatorship
https://www.renewamerica.com/columns/kincaid/150629
Scalia understands the power and meaning of words, and he chose the word “putsch” for a specific purpose… public ignorance about what is really taking place. It is our system of checks and balances and self-rule that has been undermined, he says.
…warning us that we need to understand the real significance of this decision, and go beyond all the commentators talking about “marriage equality” and “equal rights” for homosexuals. In effect, he is saying that the decision is really not about gay rights, but about the future of our constitutional republic, and the ability of the people to govern…
To those of you involved in homosexual activity or defending it – go to confession! Hopefully you are not so far from truth that you can still hear the small voice inside telling you to repent. This is about your immortal soul.
Amen to that kristin. ☺