Name of Church St. Timothy Church
Address 10425 W. Pico Blvd., Los Angeles, CA 90064
Phone number 310-474-1216
Website www.sttimothyla.org
Mass times Monday-Saturday 8 a.m. Saturday vigil, 5:30 p.m. Sunday, 7:30, 9 & 10:30 a.m. and noon. Holy days: vigil, 6:30 p.m.; 8 a.m. and 12:10 p.m.
Confessions Saturdays, 4 – 5 p.m.; First Fridays, 20 minutes before 7:30 a.m. Mass; and by appointment.
Names of priests Fr. Paul Vigil, pastor. Fr. Vigil is a Los Angeles native who attended the local seminary. He was appointed St. Timothy’s pastor in 2009.
Special parish groups Knights of Columbus, Legion of Mary, Women’s Club.
Devotions Exposition of the Blessed Sacrament and Benediction, Monday – Saturday, 6:30 a.m. through the 8 a.m. Mass, followed by exposition of the Blessed Sacrament and Benediction until 9 a.m.; Novena for Our Lady of the Miraculous Medal on Mondays at 8 a.m.
Music Depends on the Mass; cantor & organ, piano. The St. Timothy Adult Choir sings traditional music at the 10:30 a.m. Mass; listen to them here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QsghPCbCc.
School Yes, grades K-8.
Parking Park at the school or on the street if the lot fills up on Sundays.
Cry room Yes, in the front near the altar area.
Additional observations This is one of Los Angeles’ most beautiful churches from a bygone era. It was completed in 1949 in the Spanish Renaissance style. Its interior includes a gold leaf altarpiece, believed to have been made in Spain in the 1600s. Two of its statues, one of the Virgin Mary and the other of St. Joseph, were acquired from Twentieth Century Fox Studios, having appeared in the 1946 motion picture, “The Jolson Story,” in a scene set at St. Mary’s Home for Boys. The parish was home to many artisans from MGM and Fox movie studios, and these parishioners created many of the church’s decorative features, including the ornate gold-plated tabernacle. Carpenters from Twentieth Century Fox build the pews located in the nave of the church. It has 67 stained glass windows and many old oil paintings. For additional information about the interior art, see the parish website. Its pastors have included Bishop John J. Ward, who served 1963-96.
The stained glass windows are beautiful, and if you are lucky, Deacon Thomas Sabol will deliver the homily at Mass.
Another church that was built for the “TRADITIONAL LATIN MASS” and yet it is not offered there, how sad is that and the saints weep at what they see and hear at a “man made” “Novus Ordo” service.
Romulus, please identify which saints appeared to you and told you they “weep at what they see and hear at a ‘man made’ Novus Ordo service”?? The answer is: NONE. You attribute to the saints an opinion which, doubtlessly, none of them would hold because the authoritative teaching magisterium of the Church has definitively held the Novus Ordo to be a valid Mass. No saint would deny that, because it would be heresy.
If you reject the Church’s teaching, go join the other nutty rad-trads who post here and have already left the Church for the anti-Semitic SSPX.
RA: Denigrating the Ordinary Form of the Mass will NOT DO! The “saints weep at a man-made” service? Really? The OF is just as much the sacrament of Our Lord as the EF. The OF was prepared by the Conciliar Father, who have every right and jurisdiction over the sacraments of the Church. If you think that the Mass of John XXIII, or any Mass prior to his, didn’t have the fingerprints of mortal men–the Magisterium–to whom Our Lord entrusted the Sacraments, then you are deceiving yourself.
On the passing of the brutal dictator of Cuba Fidel Castro, Pope Francis sent a letter to Castro’s brother Raul telling him he is grieving and praying at the passing of the evil dictator, this is beyond any comprehension that a Pope of the Roman Catholic Church grieves at the passing of a man who utterly destroyed the Church and killed and persecuted Roman Catholic priests. Not one person on this blog can defend this pope any longer, no more “misunderstanding” quotes by the press, this is truly sick on the part of Francis, Viva Cuba Libre!
We pray for every soul. None are beyond redemption. The Pope is right and setting a good example.
“None are beyond redemption” to the point of death and judgment.
Catholics have ALWAYS been told to pray for God’s mercy on the departed, even if he/she appeared to have been unrepentant til death. Pope Francis is doing no more, and is consoling one brother on his loss. Nowhere does the Holy Father excuse or downplay Fidel’s terrible sins. He is engaging in what St. Augustine (I think) called “cor ad cor loquitur”—one heart empathetically speaks to another. This is un-Christian??? You must have learned your theology at Sears Roebuck.
Roberto Vicente, perhaps one of the poster’s relatives, friends or people they knew had been seriously harmed by Castro. Their hatred would be understandable if that is the case. You might want to read what I replied to Romulus Augustus as to why Pope Francis might be praying for the deceased Castro. We all need to remember that hell is forever according to Catholic teaching, and that Fidel Castro might have repented at the end and is serving a whole lot of time in purgatory.
Doesn’t one grieve and pray for the passing of any human being? Do you know that he did not confess before death? Do you judge better than God? All sins can be forgiven!
Romulus Augustus, I have never cared for Castro, but there is a story that he saved the live of a Jesuit priest one time. Perhaps that is being taken into consideration in all this, and maybe he did some other decent things. I do not know. It might be similar to how Roger Williams, the founder of the Baptist Church in the United States, once saved the life of a Catholic priest whom the Puritans were going to harm. That is one reason there has been cordial relationships between most Catholics and Baptists in this country. Of course Williams never had anyone tortured or murdered as far as we know, as Castro did.
Roberto you sound just like I thought the LIBERAL LEFT WING would sound like, name calling, sheer meaness and of course a complete and utter hatred of the TLM. As for being anti-semitic shame on you for even calling me that and the S.S.P.X. for that matter, Our Lord, Our Lady and The Twelve Apostles were and are Jews so please refrain from the anti-semtic attacks that does not work.
Romulus, you’re making unfounded assumptions again: as a matter of fact my politics are very conservative. “Utter hatred for the TLM”? Dare you to cite one instance where I said (or even hinted) at that. I DO hold, in accord with the Church’s Magisterium, that the NO is valid. You deny it. As to the SSPX and its anti-Semitism, wasn’t one of its bishops a Holocaust-denier?
Your problem is ignorance, and you’ve amply demonstrated it in your posts. Stay in the SSPX.
So Hitler, Goebels, Himmler ALL Roman Catholics should have our prayers?? Most of the Nazi leadership starting with Hitler were Roman Catholics should we pray for all of them, mass murderers????
Short answer, YES. You don’t know what the Catholic faith teaches, that’s clear.
But then again, Romulus, you are NOT Catholic. You are an SSPXer.
Yes, of course we should pray for these men. Praying for them doesn’t mean we are agreeing with their actions in life. It’s not an endorsement of their worst moments, or even a celebration of their best moments (if they had any). To pray is to answer our highest calling in life.
Romulus, the discussion on this site has become much nastier since your recent arrival. The Catholic faith is not one of hate. A nasty fight between people who attend the NO and the EO form of the Mass is like listening to an argument between Shia and Sunni.
Right, Bob O: ad hominem attack against Romulus; contact Zuckerberg and ban him from Facebook.
As for “not condoning their deeds” (Roberto V.), it is a little late in coming: publicly “praying for Castro” as RV has announced is essentially a ready willingness to overlook the objective facts, namely that this man never evidenced the least bit of repentance or remorse, in fact the opposite, of his numberless and heinous crimes against humanity.
But this is really about an absurdist view of God, who cannot be known, and a functional agnosticism that all are saved by the Progressive Catholic Brethren.
This is what I have been saying all along. I never condoned their evil deeds.
Praying for Castro, whose life-long history of murders, tortures, and numberless atrocities, is an exercise in absurdity epitomizing the thinking of those who advocate it.
This kind of exercise illustrates decisively the incapacity of some Catholics—like jon, Roberto vicente-caritas, and an Erstwhile Fellow Catholic— to think straight, to objectively judge matters of fact and of good-evil: nothing (to them) can ever be objectively known. Everything is absurdity. And a God in that world must be a god of contradiction and absurdity. It is not God, the Father of Jesus Christ.
Steve’s back. Misreading others’ posts with boring regularity. The Catholic Church teaches that we should commend the souls of those who have died to the mercy of God, who has the sole right to be their ultimate Judge. This certainly does not equate in any way to condoning the objective evil they have done. You may think that praying for God’s mercy on their souls is absurd. But the Church teaches otherwise. Then again, you are not a Catholic but an SSPXer; I shouldn’t expect you to understand the Catholic faith correctly. And you never disappoint. But why state your idiosyncratic ideas with such “valor of ignorance”?
Yes, thank goodness that Steve’s back. There’s nothing boring about Steve Phoenix’s God given gift of leadership ability when exposing the “new springtime” kind of infiltrators that John Podesta spoke about in Wikileaks. Look how these infiltrators are trying to change Church structure/doctrine by pretending they are concerned with mercy. Nothing could be further than the truth. While feigning merciful concern for a deceased, brutal dictator, they lose all credibility when they childishly hurl the most brutal and merciless comments to someone who is LIVING. Steve Phoenix is always able to truthfully expose who the real Saul Alinskyite “useful idiots” are. These hostages need prayers.
I was always talking about a Catholic IN PRIVATE PRAYER being charitable enough to beg God to bestow whatever mercy is possible on a clearly very sinful man. Why you term a merciful God—and the Gospels are full of examples of His mercy—as being an “absurdist God” is beyond me. I just cannot comprehend your absolute coldness of heart. Whoever suggested Romulus be banned from FB, it wasn’t me. You make accusations up to win debating points. Shame on you.
*Catherine* = Akita Go buy an Akita.
“*Catherine* = Akita Go buy an Akita. = spirit of anti-Christ”
Mocking the Mother of God reveals the condition of a very darkened heart. The reason for this disrespect and fear is clear. In the Church approved messages of Akita, Japan, Our Lady, mercifully prepares, as well as warns her children that due to compromises, Cardinals will be against Cardinals and Bishops will be against Bishops. Our Lady of Akita said that priests who held a special devotion to her would be mocked by confreres. When you can mock God’s mother, then you can more than comfortably try to alter the teachings of her son.
And Romulus, you are right, the old smear of sliming the SSPX as anti-Semitic is an effort to poisonously, and (they hope?) fatally stigmatize them. It is a shamelessly diabolical device.
Oh, WOW! “shamelessly diabolical device”?? Then explain and defend Bishop Williamson’s scandalous denial of the Holocaust. Hyperbole, thy name is Steve.
For rational readers (exclude the jon-Roberto Vicente-caritas-YFC axis), Bp Williamson was expelled from the SSPX years ago, in fact specifically because of many of his statements. As usual Roberto Vicente (is he of Brown University these days?) is woefully uninformed.
As for the SSPX, anyone who shows the Progressive Catholic Brethren how uninformed they are, is named an “SSPX’er”. I guess the Devil recognizes his enemies. Says something good every time about the SSPX.
Bishop Williamson was rebuked and kicked out of the S.S.P.X. as he should have been, he was indeed an anti-Semite no question about it.
There is absolutely no doctrinal imperative that “Catholics have ALWAYS been told to pray for God’s mercy on the departed.” (Roberto Vicente-caritas) We are to pray for those who died in communion with Jesus Christ and his Church, “the Faithful Departed”.
Steve— Can you defend your first sentence by examples or citations. [I know that Saint Ambrose taught the opposite.]
And your last sentence is either misleadingly incomplete if not dead wrong: to limit our prayers for the souls of those who are the “faithful departed” would entitle us to be the ultimate judge of their souls. That’s heresy. The Church reaches that this ultimate judgment is reserved to God alone.
In an attempt to impress us (I guess), you lard your posts with phrases written in Greek and Latin, and with citations, etc. Yet you show, over and over, that you know less about fundamental Church teaching than a grammar school kid familiar with the Baltimore Catechism.
You may be dead wrong–nonetheless you are…
always CERTAIN.
You give new truth to the old adage “you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear”. Or out of a horse’s patootie, either.
Since our Progressive Catholic Brethren (PCB’s), in their moving concern for Castro’s soul, have decided to obscure true Catholic doctrine on whom should be prayed for at death, namely “the FAITHFUL departed” cf. Fr. P.J. Toner, STD, “Prayers for the Dead”, Cath. Encyclopedia (CE, 1904):
1. Liturgy of St. James (ca. 370 AD) “We commemorate all the faithful dead who have died in the true faith
2. In at least one recorded case, a certain priest who violated serious canons was forbidden to
have prayers after death for his soul: “No offering might be made for his repose, or any prayer offered in the Church in his name” (Ep. LXVI, Patrem Latinum, IV, p.399).
3. Pope Formosus (d. 896 AD), who was excommunicated, had his name stricken…
…stricken from the obituary prayers by successor popes and was forbidden to have prayers said for his soul.
4. “To those who die in willful, unrepented mortal sin, which implies a deliberate turning away from God as the last end and ultimate good of man, Catholic teaching holds out no hope of eventual salvation by a course of probation after death.” (Toner, CE)
Regarding “Praying for Castro”, Fr. Toner (Cath Ency) states persons may privately pray for the dead, some of whom may in fact be damned.
However, S Thomas Aquinas considered it “rash and unfounded” (In Sent. IV, xlv, q. ii, a. 2): So, we may reasonably conclude praying for an utter reprobate like Castro (or Stalin; or Hitler; or Robespierre), the lives of whom a rational and informed assessment by a reasonable person, tells us never ever sought any reconciliation with the Church of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, is scandalous and absurd.
“There is no restriction by Divine or ecclesiastical law as to those of the dead for whom private prayer may be offered — except that they may not be offered formally either for the blessed in heaven or for the damned.” So, would we pray for Judas Iscariot? He is damned (oh: how scaaary: I said that word): check Our Lord’s own testimony (John 17:12).
In fact: Why not pray for the hundreds of thousands, nay, millions, murdered by these beasts in fetid cells, in frozen gulags, in unspeakable death camps? Why the absurd preoccupation by the PCB’s with Papa Joe, or El Comandante?
One can trace it to their functional agnosticism: theirs is a God who is vague, contradictory, and in that god’s world, nothing objective,…
good or evil, can be known. Sounds more like Allah to most of us.
Thank you, Steve Phoenix, for having the patience to respond so credibly to the progressively indoctrinated masses.
Who are you to say that Ia’m not a Roman Catholic? Indeed you are more than welcome to have your hand holding, kiss of peace, altar girls, dancing girls in leotards, lay people running around the altar pretending to be priests, drums, guitars, banjos, folk, mariachi, rock, protestant hymns, communion in the hand while standing, dinner table for an altar, felt banners, need I say more?
Romulus— Please don’t.
I on the other hand have the TLM,. Latin, Gregorian chant, Mozart, Palestrina, organ, high altar, communion rail, kneeling while receiving, proper attire, silence before Our Lord, altar boys only, Gothic and Roman vestments, incense, all of this by the way is in a “Institute of Christ the King” parish, sorry to call you out but an S.S.P.X.er as you call me is not the case.
RA, the personal attacks are necessary because o’erweening arrogance and ignorance always goes hand in hand. You dare to question their latest farce, “Praying for Castro,” on its evident self-absurdity. You must be silenced: it is “their way.” But you know that.
The traditional Catholic Faith believes in certain evidrnt revealed truths and in reasoned conclusions. No Catholic is ever obligated to pray for a manifestly evil man.
Let them cover themselves with glory (they think) by praying for Castro, or Hitler, or Stalin. That epitomizes perfectly their bizarre Pantheon.
How about praying for the victims of Castro instead????
Why do you assume that I don’t? And what makes praying for Castro AND his victims mutually exclusive? More illogic.
Exactly, Romulus: you are the “illogical” one.
Roberto V claims to pray for both the butcher, Castro, who never ever in his life evidenced the slightest remorse or sorrow for his numberless atrocities,as equally and indifferently as he claims to pray for Castro’s tens of thousands of innocent victims: moral equivalence, moral absurdity, moral irrationality.
A god in Roberto V’s functional agnosticism doesn’t operate in a system of good and evil or objectively knowable morality. Everything is equally “moral”, in fact the next step he will likely assert many of Castro’s victims he may be in hell and Castro may be in heaven. (Seriously, I’ve heard this before.) You can’t reasonably know the truth of matters, you…
..know. One must accept “indifference.”
Roberto you sound like the MSN and Democrat party trying to paint Steve Bannon of Brietbart as an anti-Semite, that has failed as well, with Trump in the White House the usual name calling such as anti-Semite, bigot, Islamaphobe, homophobe, anti-woman just does not work anymore, Williamson is out of the S.S.P.X. try something new and refreshing for a change, lest you have ran out of name calling?
Romulus, if you want to see SERIOUS examples of name-calling, re-read Steve’s posts addressed to me.
He calls me a “functional agnostic”; one who “believes in a God who is vague and contradictory”, like Allah; and I have shown “a ready willingness to overlook or accept [Castro’s] numberless murders, . . .”. All because I suggest that to offer private prayers to God, the ultimate Judge, to have mercy (if possible) on Castro’s soul is a laudable and Christian thing to do.
You’d think, reading Steve, that I suggested Castro be given a funeral in the Havana Cathedral with a solemn Pontifical Mass offered by the Cardinal Archbishop. Is there any accuracy and balance in Steve’s screeds?
The main premise here is that there is no doctrinal imperative to pray for evil people (Roberto Vicente-caritas-etc: “Catholics have ALWAYS been told to pray for God’s mercy..’ 11/26/16, his//her caps), for which Romulus was attacked in pointing out how irrational, absurd and scandalous such “devotion” would be. It isn’t really possible to separate such “praying for Castro” from a ready willingness to overlook or accept his numberless murders, rapes, kidnappings of children, and tortures.
If one wants to make that their “private devotion”, well, in the end it says so much about them; And their silence about the hundreds of thousands horribly murdered by this monster displays instead a self-preening, self-congratulatory…
WOW!!! Romulus and Steve Phoenix— Talk about verbal diarrhea!
Steve explicitly concedes my original point: it is permissible (I say laudable) to pray for God’s mercy on the souls of those departed who, in life, did great evil. God is still the ultimate Judge of their souls. As usual, Steve works himself into a frenzy, citing examples from the 800s AD, etc. which utterly fail to disprove this point.
As far as Romulus is concerned, the less said the better.
Do you notice the uniformly strident, judgmental and exclusionary tone of their posts? And their implicit premise that, no matter what, the disloyal and renegade SSPX cult can NEVER be wrong. The SSPX brainwashing has worked well, Steve and Romulus. Have some more Kool-Aid.
Oh spare us the lamentations of a wounded ego. It is entirely unbecoming from one who is the most efficient insult-merchant against Ann Malley, Linda Maria, so many others. And is the exact unfactual self-focused response one could expect.
Weep instead for the God you could know better, and have instead declined His invitation.
Hitler and Castro were both baptized Roman Catholics one is responsible for the mass murder of MILLIONS including Jews, protestants, gypsies, the handicapped please real about Bishop Graf von Galen of Munster, and yes thousands of priests from Poland and you ask me to pray for Castro? Shame on anyone here that prays for the soul of either of these EVIL men.
Really, this “Praying for Castro” meme is so much hypocrisy by the Progressive Catholic Brethren”(Roberto V. et al) , the “PCB’s”.
The PCB’s assert that we must never judge the dead, even when reasonable assessment of the life of a Castro tells us it is scandalous and absurd to pray for his soul (Aquinas calls it “rash and unfounded.” ) What an insult, to claim to impose such an outrageous “moral obligation” on Catholics.
Yet by the same measure, the same enlightened Brethren venomously judge others all the time—anti-Semites, “SSPX’ers””, “Shia and Sunni’s”, heretics, “not Roman Catholic”.
Utter hypocrisy. We only pray for the FAITHFUL departed, or at least, if privately, for those whose lives are not an…
…lives are not an insult to reason and faith. This is all a fan-dance about claiming to a superior moral consciousness.
It is also a statement about a functional agnosticism: nothing is certain. God and revealed truth cannot really be known. The famous lie, “We don’t know if anyone is in hell” is a classic.
The Life of Christ: “nothing is certain”. The Birth of Christ: “nothing is certain”. The Sacraments? “Nothing is certain”. “Certainly”, the Mass instituted by Christ? “Nothing is certain” (maybe it was composed in the 4th C. Or the 5th C. or the 6th C.?) Jesus’ resurrection? ‘Nothing is certain.” The apostles and apostolic succession and priesthood? Ibid. Heaven, hell, death and judgment? Nothing…
..is certain. No wonder people are leaving in droves.
Have you ever read such coldness of heart? And endless accusations against a poster for things he NEVER proposed? If it is people like this that “are leaving in droves”, we Catholics will be better off without them. Would you want Steve, Tin Pan Malley or *Catherine Akita* in your parish doing nothing but stirring up trouble? Let them stay in the disobedient and renegade SSPX.
It is incomprehensible to me that some people on this thread cannot ascertain the differences between praying for the FAITHFUL departed, praying for the prayers of Mary and the known Saints, and praying for those whose faith is known to God alone. And what a sad thing that people make such a big deal about a charitable act towards one who, we all, every single one of us, agrees, was a despicable man. I can only imagine that such as these have never had to rely upon the true mercy of Christ.
And Fellow Catholic, you get it now, and you have clarified that praying should only be for the “FAITHFUL departed”.
Also, in fact there is a long history—as has been shown (cf. Catholic Encyclopedia)—of prohibiting public orations for evil individuals, but also even private prayer for an obdurate sinner, or say, a life-long horrific murderer like Castro, Aquinas says at the very least is “rash and unfounded”.
S Alphonsus Liguori is even more harsh: he says the obstinate sinner simply cannot repent, and even should he attempt to do so at the time of death, it is imperfect contrition, being only “of necessity”, and insufficient for satisfaction of Our Lord’s judgment.
This discussion is a long way from the article about St. Timothy!
I agree. It seems to be that the MO of some folks with articles like “Churches worth driving to” is to “notice” how the parish is not offering the EF. Then they make a note of that, while at the same time denigrating the OF. I am only speculating, but it’s very negative and unChristian, plus heretical to denigrate any of the sacraments of the Church.
Perspective: Bob One, Roberto V., and the Self-Identified Fellow Catholic all decided to pile on Romulus A. over RA’s perfectly valid assertion that “praying for Castro” is ridiculous, absurd, (Aquinas says) “rash and unfounded,” and no, not Catholic doctrine, to obligate one to pray for an evil man.
That is what occasioned this dust-up. It’s a little disingenuous of some to clutch their pearls and cluck about “negativity” and nonsense when they are willing to tolerate such prevarications.
Let’s put even more perspective please. The “dust-up” on praying for Castro is one thing (which I chose not to participate in, which is my prerogative, not at all my “toleration of a prevarication”). But denigrating the sacrament is another, to which I had commented prior to this “dust-up.”
Steve Phoenix—
You quote Aquinas freely. Recall that in his writings Aquinas denied the later infallibly defined doctrine of the Immaculate Conception; and wrote that a human being was not formed at conception but only some days later—and the number of days was longer for female embryos than for male ones.
Perfect Contrition:
“Contrition” (def, Lat): “a breaking of something hardened.”
Another issue that this utter absurdist narrative “Praying for Castro” illicits is the issue of perfect contrition. Nowhere have the Progressive Catholic Brethren mentioned it, because likely they don’t believe in it.
Perfect Contrition: Reconciliation to God when in extremis and the sacrament of penance is unavailable would require a perfect act of contrition—a tall order for a committed life-long murderer, who also had no evident desire to repair or restitute his ill-got gains.
For a full explanation of “perfect contrition”, please see Catholic Encyclopedia “Contrition” (CE). But, two points that ARE Catholic doctrine:
(1) “perfect contrition, rises from the love of God Who has been grievously offended.” It cannot be sourced from “merely natural motives, such as loss of honour, fortune” —or obviously, one’s life (CE).
(2) Perfect contrition without the sacrament, however Trent taught “cannot be apart from the desire for the…
…for the sacrament.” (CE)
S. Alphonsus Liguori quotes S. Bernard: “”The heart that has been obstinate in sin during life will use its utmost endeavors to escape damnation, but will not succeed, and overwhelmed by its own malice, will end life in the same state.” (“Considerations on the Eternal Maxims”, VI.)
Sound like Castro to you? It does to a reasoning, sane person.
Steve Phoenix— The word is “elicits” not “illicits”. Evidently your spelling is no better than your logic.
= Autocorrect. All your education, all your degrees, and that is all your wounded ego can muster as a response.
There are none so blind as those “praying for Castro”.
Roberto please have a sip from the chalice and take Holy Commuion from the unlcean hands of “lay people” not from the consecrated hands of our Holy priests, and by the way drinking from the chalice is a “protestant” custom and NOT Roman Catholic at all. You have some sort of obsession with the S.S.P.X. I don’t but you sure do, by the way the seminaries of the S.S.P.X F.S.S.P. and Institute of Christ the King are packed with YOUNG men with waiting lists for years! One cannot say that about the Novus Ordo seminaries most have CLOSED since Vatican II.
I think this looks like a beautiful church and would love to check out the stained glass windows as one suggested if only I lived closer. It is so sad to me that, from time to time as I check in here there are the same ungrateful people griping about the fact that any parish says the Novus Ordo. How sad Our Lord must be at their attitude toward the Church He suffered and died for.