On April 24, the homosexualist Bay Area Reporter announced the list of grand marshals for San Francisco’s 2013 “Gay Pride Parade.” Among those named was California Attorney General Kamala Harris. She was joined by imprisoned U.S. Army private Bradley Manning. Manning has already pled guilty to a number of charges related to releasing classified information. He has not yet entered a plea to the charge of “aiding the enemy.” That charge carries the death penalty, although prosecutors have said they will decline to pursue it. Manning will be liable to life imprisonment.
Manning’s activities were made known to the FBI by a “hacker” named Adrian Lamo. In a December 19, 2010 article in the Sunday Times, writer Ed Caesar quoted Lamo “I knew that, unless stopped, he was going to continue to leak, and continue to endanger lives.”
During his brief military career Manning also punched a female intelligence officer in the face and was considered sufficiently unstable for his Master Sergeant to remove the bolt from his rifle.
None of this was considered disqualifying by the Pride parade. But the choice quickly provoked outrage amongst members of the armed services. Within 24 hours of the announcement, the Pride committee was walking back the honor. On April 25, Lisa Williams, president of the SF Pride Board issued a somewhat contradictory press release, which began by blaming one person for the fiasco: “Bradley Manning will not be a grand marshal in this year’s San Francisco Pride celebration. His nomination was a mistake and should never have been allowed to happen. A staff person at SF Pride, acting under his own initiative, prematurely contacted Bradley Manning based on internal conversations within the SF Pride organization. That was an error and that person has been disciplined. He does not now, nor did he at that time, speak for SF Pride.”
But the final paragraph of the release enlarged the web of blame in a significant way:
“Specifically, what these events have revealed is a system whereby a less-than-handful of people may decide who represents the LGBT community’s highest aspirations as grand marshals for SF Pride. This is a systemic failure that now has become apparent and will be rectified. In point of fact, less than 15 people actually cast votes for Bradley Manning. These 15 people are part of what is called the SF Pride Electoral College, comprised of former SF Pride Grand Marshals. However, as an organization with a responsibility to serve the broader community, SF Pride repudiates this vote.”
The choice of someone as defective as Manning as a “Pride” Grand Marshal is not unprecedented. In 2003, the parade named Larry Brinkin, “San Francisco Gay Rights Icon” and a staff member of San Francisco’s Human’s Rights Commission, as a Grand Marshal. In January of 2012, Brinkin was arrested on charges of child pornography. The SF Bay Citizen reported at the time: “One photo shows a child about 2 to 3 years old being sexually abused, according to the search warrant. Another shows an adult male attempting to receive oral sex from a small child….Brinkin’s account was linked to several Yahoo discussion groups on the sexual exploitation of children, according to the search warrant. Emails from Brinkin’s account to other users contained stories police suspect were fictional accounts written by Brinkin. The stories describe the rape and torture of African American children, according to the search warrant. One of the emails contained the words ‘White Power! White Supremacy!’”
In 1999 the parade’s grand marshal was Harry Hay, who had defended NAMBLA, the National Man Boy Love Association. In a 1983 New York University forum, Hay had said “”[I]f the parents and friends of gays are truly friends of gays, they would know from their gay kids that the relationship with an older man is precisely what thirteen-, fourteen-, and fifteen-year-old kids need more than anything else in the world.”
Why is anyone surprised by this? Sodomites are loyal to their degenerate actions things like family and country do not matter to these so called people
Traitor? Manning has not been even been accused of treason.
It isn’t as if the military that has kept him in solitary confinement for over a year as any interest in minimizing his crimes. It determined that treason isn’t one of them. Cal Catholic should stick with factual headlines, and might also consider refraining from cheerleading for a military that has already muzzled Christians and chaplains.
Presuming why the army let him go, Brian S.? The more likely scenario is that they let Manning off the hook because so as to minimalize further release of more classified documents. In other words, Manning succeeded in extorting his way out of a legal jam. But, not to worry, no doubt he’d appreciate a love letter from you.
Off the hook? From what alternative universe do you get your news, Skai? Bradley Manning is in the brig and will almost certainly remain there for most, if not all, of his life.
This young man is a traitor to that uniform…fitting that he would be the “grand marshal”, of a sodomite parade…hope they wear their diaper’s…cleaning that filth off the streets is smelly and dirty!
WRONG. He was booted by Pride.
Not surprised at the Manning selection. The Gay Pride parade is a countercultural group and adding a traitor to their midst is a natural selection. Ditto for the child molester, and the man boy love leader. Fringe groups will always have publicity problems.
We must love homosexuals even if we disagree with so much of what they stand for. The Gay Pride folks learned the hard way that if they want to be fully integrated into society that means dealing with nasty situations like GRadn Marshals that are criminal child molesters and traitors that harm our country. Maybe Jane Fonda could take Manning’s place.
Goodcause, you mean well, but since when are we asked to love homosexuality? You say we must love them but these people have chosen to embrace their sin…in other words , love me love my sin. I feel real compassion and respect for those burdened with same-sex attraction but who fight the sin and embrace God’s all-encompassing love and mercy. They not only need our support but our constant prayers. Surely you can see the distinction. I feel pity for those who reject God’s mercy and take pride in their sin, but love? Have you prayed lately for our brothers and sisters suffering in prisons in China or who are enduring persecution and death in Africa from muslim hatred? What is this obsession so many here have about loving these spoiled, willful and arrogant little hottentots? Where’s the love for those who are suffering for the faith? Where’s the love for those who are being persecuted from the frivilous lawsuits from these people because they insist on forcing small and struggling Christian bakeries and B&B ‘s t0 accept their insolent behavior and are forcing these people out of business? Where’s your concern for the families living in San Francisco who are forced to endure this overt exhibitionism of sadism and abhorrent sexual practices? Right now, here in Ohio Bishop of Columbus Diocese Campbell is suffering persecution because he fired a lesbian teacher for marrying her lover. ‘She’ is suing the diocese. Nice folks. Love them? It’s like loving the prince of darkness himself as far as I’m concerned
Good thoughts, well said, Dana.
She didn’t “marry” her. She just added “(Julie)” after her name in her mom’s obituary. Seems like a HUGE overreaction by the prinicpal or bishop.
When one of the shepherds finally defend the Faith and Church teaching, you C&H considered it an over reaction. ???? I say good for the Bishop, may God gives legions more like him…
“We must love homosexuals even if we disagree” ain’t gonna happen with me
Concur, as Jesus tells us to love our neighbor, and then tells us that it is ridiculous to ask who our neighbor is. Sodomites are no neighbors of mine, and thus I do not have to love them. Jesus pointed out that there are in fact neighbors, and the obvious implication is that there are those who are not neighbors. These “everyone is our neighbor” puppets have it all backwards.
Man, did you misunderstand that parable! Do you know how to practice Lectio Divina? Mental prayer or meditation?
The “obvious implication is that there are those who are not neighbors” is only “obvious” to the person who slept through Catechism 2196, 2822. This traditional understanding comes from the Parable of the Good Samaritan: Everyone is my neighbor, even who doesn’t appear to be. Samaritans, marathon bombers, saints, Prostitutes, Romans, terrorists, Republicans, homosexuals, murders. All of them.
Francis, someone should elect you Pope!
Francis do you honestly believe the Muslims stopped by Charles Martel at Tours were are neighbors???? Do you believe the Muslim Brotherhood which regular burns Coptic Churches to the ground are our neighbors if you do you confuse pacifism with Catholicism….I know they are not mine……But then again your liberal which in itself is blocks reason
Yes, Canisius: Abdul Rahman is Charles Martel’s neighbor. I have no memory of heaven, but I suspect they might be even closer neighbors now. I would not say the “Muslim Brotherhood” is the Coptic Church’s neighbor, however — The Muslim Brothers in Egypt (as people) are neighbors to the Copts (also as people, not as an organization). My patron saint’s example in regard to relations with Muslims is very worthy of emulation, and I don’t think the pope would have taken his name unless he believes that as well.
I don’t know how you understand pacifism, but I suspect you think it means “never fight, never resist, be a coward.” The on-line definition if pacifist, however, is “someone opposed to violence as a means of settling disputes.” I oppose using violence as a means of settling disputes. I also oppose claiming Christian love as a reason not to defend the weak against aggression. That’s neither pacifism nor Christianity, but cowardice.
YFC how dare you consider yourself higher than the holy Ghost to suggest such a thing. He is not even a Cardinal! Not even close….
Catechisms come and go and are revised, Francis. I prefer the solid ground of Jesus found through the sacraments, and not through bureaucratic quibbling, which is like shifting sands. But, alas, you have your choice. Pay a few dollars, spend some time reading and spouting the CCC and you’re in like Flynn, right? Or simply suffer and walk with Jesus, which is both cheaper and more expensive, and can be done without reading anything at all. But CCC thumpers would not quite understand that. But do not lose heart: For example, I once ran into a young Jesuit priest who was running a parish in a poor section of a major city; he walked with us a’carolling in the Christmas Eve, through those snowy biting cold streets wearing only a thin button down plaid shirt, no hat, no muffler. Lesson here being that extreme education and Franciscan simplicity can be done by one individual with the faith to do it.
I am not surprised you chose St. Francis, mine of course is St. Michael….I have been violent my entire and expect to be until I die…Violence has always worked, might does make right, I have seen the weak stepped on and abused, I have seen abusers get away with it, until they met street justice… that is reality of life…..
Canisius:
Just to be clear: I didn’t chose St. Francis for my baptismal patron saint; my parents did.
I, too, have seen the weak stepped on and abused. But don’t think suffering abuse proves someone is weak. My father was one such. He was a POW and his captors tortured him to extract information. Then, they starved him and his comrades. Yet he was the only member of his unit strong enough in body and spirit to escape the POW camp and survive. As long as he lived, he supported the people he had betrayed under torture. Subsequently, he lived almost to his 91st birthday.
God’s justice isn’t always street justice, but it can take a long time. That is the reality of life and death.
Your father was an extremely brave man, I do not believe if you are being tortured you are betraying anyone, your father was a better man than me……No of course not, does being abused make one weak, if anything it can build resolve as it did with me…though my resolve shoots off in wrong directions, I am trying to get some counseling but I put little faith in constant blather
And this, dear Canisius, is a mortal sin.
And mortal sin ensnares you too, Dear Skai.
YFC, wrong again…….funny you accuse me of mortal sin, but you considered acts crying out to heaven for vengeance “marriage” or an act of love… that “my dear” YFC is real mortal sin….the sooner your kind is removed from the Church the better….
Thank you for your loving acceptance. I’ll see you at Mass on Sunday. Peace be with you!
I don’t accept people who are attacking the Church from within, attacking Truth and demand acceptance and tolerance, since we basically don’t belong to the same Church, (you are AmChurch) no you will never see me at one of your rainbow flag, gay masses… an abomination in the Presence of Christ Almighty….
YFC just remember that if you commit sodomy you can not receive communion. It is a mortal sin. Please respect our Lord…and if you are chaste, then God bless you but chaste also means that you must be chaste in your words…they can not mislead anyone into embracing or accepting acts against the Natural law….
So called Good Cause.
The only way true Catholics can love them is to work for their and their supporters salvation which means abstinence from sexual activity, this includes their supporters amongst our errant clergy, including “ishops”!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
At least they’re not hypocrites. They’ve chosen someone who symbolizes all they stand for in society and in relation to God. I think either this person or retired Bishop of Detroit, Gumble would be suitable. This is an anti-God celebration, so why not do it in style, keeping true to what they hold dear? I think a float filled with hollywood left–winged socialist movie ‘star’ types would be in keeping with the ‘spirit’ of the day, as well. There may be a problem with these millionaire communists (haha…how’s that for the perfect oxy-MORON?) wanting to be seen in public without hefty remuneration, however. I hope this year may be when home de-pot will get the publicity they so desperately seek…with their little orange aprons stretched across wobbling naked behinds making headlines in small town America. Now this is reeeeeeeeeeeeal class. Yes-er-ee Bob.
Lisa Williams did the right thing. The majority of the LGBT comunity comments about this say Manning put American lives in danger and shouldn’t be honored just because he’s gay.
Sugar, what difference does it make what the lgbtxyz community says about anything?
Well, since it’s our parade, I hope we’d have something to say about not having an awful person as grand marshal :-).
A “traitor” betraying traitors? Treason presumes there is something or someone to commit treason against. Manning cannot betray a government that long ago betrayed the American people by placing the Constitution and the interests of the American people at the service of corrupt banksters and a Middle Eastern foreign state. Wake up, America! Washington betrayed us long before Manning ever thought of doing it.
Rule of law, Lujan, rule of law, or don’t you believe in the US Constitutional system of law? Even though I would agree that there are federal officials and politicians who should be arrested and/or impeached for treason, the fact is that none of them has been, let alone convicted. Thus, Manning has not legally betrayed traitors. But why he was not convicted remains suspicious.
Manning violated an oath he took, to uphold the constitution and defend this country, the day he was sworn in to serve this nation as a member of it’s armed forces…what he did constitutes treason!…he violated and broke his oath…and now is grand marshal of a sodomite parade…ain’t life grand!
You’re entitled to your opinion, of course, Mr. Rhodesian. The fact remains however, that the sworn officers of the armed forces charged with the responsibility of making the judgement you have assumed for yourself do not agree with you. Do you really think those officers would have hesitated to charge Manning with treason if it could have been plausibly supported?
Most of the hierarchy in the military today are paper tigers. Only big wars cull them out, when survival and victory depend on guts and fighting skill and not on bathhouse diplomacy.
Proud Rhodesian: You are factually wrong. Manning is not/will not be a Pride Grand Marshall.
I hadn’t previously thought of those of our fellow Catholics who are afflicted with homosexual feelings as being traitors, or even admirers of traitors, especially those who are still struggling privately with those feelings and not identifying themselves loudly and proudly as those who have disordered sexual orientations. I am shocked that they would go so far as to select such a reprehensible person as a role model, even though following (not prior to) strong public outcry, they did take another look at it. That is not redeeming of that group in my eyes, as this should never have happened.
It raises the question of whether homosexuals are mentally disordered in addition to being sexually disordered. Certainly most of us are uncomfortable with a great many of the individuals who identify themselves as homosexuals, due to a lot of very odd behaviors, statements, personal mannerisms, their odd obsessions with the superficial, etc., etc. But are they so mentally disturbed as to be traitors to their own nation – indeed, by extension, to their own persons?
I am still shocked and dismayed but don’t yet have an answer to this question, but it does deserve our attention. It may mean it is not safe to entrust ourselves to homosexual military men and women, despite the fact that many have already served and are serving without being traitors. But just reading comments on this site by many, though not all, avowed homosexuals feels like they are traitors to the faith while still identifying themselves as Catholic, seem overcome with hateful rage and burning venom those of us who are confused or repelled by their behavior and disordered values, and they certainly betray their own personal health and safety when they engage in their preferred sexual behaviors.
A very disturbing question arises concerning these people’s thinking when they are capable of honoring and raising up for symbol leadership a hating, and shockingly dangerous, blithely unconcerned traitor. This man is a social terrorist, putting us all in danger, and working to bring down the government of the United States of America and its allies.
The question demands addressing: Are homosexuals so intrinsically demented as to be admirers of, and perhaps even a half-step or less away from being, our traitors? It is not politically correct at the moment to ask the question, of course, but nevertheless, does it not demand to be asked in the light of this shocking display of defiance of the values of every decent-minded American citizen?
A very insightful question, Maryanne. Do you think that that ‘whole personna’ is what Paul was addressing in Romans 1? I think of how Oscar Wilde, for example, was humiliated and betrayed by his young lover, and how he deeply hated his same-sex attraction. You’re excellent post probes that murky territory that we’re no longer allowed to even speculate about. I suppose it is age, Maryanne, but I still am completely flummoxed at the tsunami changes that are being force upon us as though it is all acceptable and normal. We’ll soon be the ‘flaky and hateful’ minority as the history books and social norms become twisted and rewritten by sociopaths and political hacks to further obfuscate Church teaching and natural law. Our grandchildren face a terribly dark future, perhaps. But I keep hoping that as so many times in the past, some deus ex machina …well, you know I am truly speaking of our mighty and loving God, but for the sake of dramatic license (for which I have no operator’s permit) I use the illusion…must cast down some huge thunderbolts and lightning strikes to knock out a few villains and knock some sense into the rabblerousing riffraff from Sparta. I live in hope, Maryanne. ;o)
Tossing the word traitor around so loosely is not helpful. Beyond being
simply untrue – Manning is not even charged with treason – it leads
directly to the overheated rhetoric and unhelpful speculations you exhibit here.
Where can the notion that being a traitor “to their own nation” becomes “by extension, to their own persons” come from? That highly elevated notion of the State is not the least in keeping with the philosophy of the Founding Fathers, let alone the Apostles of Christ.
As for the question you claim demands asking – “Are homosexuals so intrinsically demented as to be admirers of (or being) traitors?” – be assured that publicly asking it would get you quickly removed from the armed forces you admire so much.
Good God Maryanne! Manning, in my opinion, is not deserving of honor. But you not only say that having a different opinion not only makes a person mentally disordered, but their entire CLASS of people mentally disordered? Does it also make all men mentally disordered? Does it make all Americans mentally disordered? Does it make all women mentally disordered?
Really? Just because you disagree with someone they and all of their class have to be mentally disordered?
YFC unfortunately I have witnessed some of your fellow sodomites “gay pride” parades and there can be no doubt the participants are mentally disorded
Really Canisisus, you go to Gay Pride Parades? and your dentures didn’t fall out?
Spoken like a true witchy witch, Not Our Fellow Catholic. Sink to the level of putting people down personally, and not even for their views, but for silly superficialities, and your imaginary star sinks right along with your own perceived value to thinking people everywhere.
No YFC, they invade my neighborhood like the black death, and I usually have to delouse once the march of the perverts is over…..
Maryanne Leonard God bless you….there is justice and your comments to YFC was just because it is about time we stood up. YFC you preach that you don’t use put down comments of hate and look at you against Canisisus…if you are gonna preach that, as you usually do, then live by it!
Gays act like they are mentally disturbed…yes, THEY ARE!…they wear flamboyant costumes, that caricature depraved persons…indulging in all kinds of perversion’s…yes, they are mentally disturbed!…in fact, “sodomy” is a perversion, homosexuality is a variety of sexual paraphilia!
Proving once again, dear Proudful Rhodesian, that prejudice isn’t pretty.
No YFC perversion is what is not pretty
The “Pride” parade is an abomination. Need to pray for all of those disordered souls. When I’m exposed to it on the news, I am sicken to see the poor children who are exposed to such depravity. Poor children
Prejudice is sometimes necessary for survival, YFC. If only you were to become prejudiced against gays, then you might have a change against the fate of hell.
Maryanne is a faithful Catholic, and when YFC tries to cut her out from the flock by saying, “If only you” … well, Maryanne is not “only you”, not only one individual apart from God. She is a person in union with God and thus speaks as one in union with God, and not as some isolated Cartesianized human unit with nothing more to her being … YFC, and all homosexuals project their own isolation from God onto those faithful Catholics who bother to “admonish the sinner” which is what Christ Jesus God Man has commissioned the Church (all members) to do. Thus, once again YFC attacks the work of God and thus God, and is once again dooming himself to hell for eternity.
I understand the parade organizors wanted Jane Fonda to ride in the Benedict Arnold memorial car with Manning…
Lieing is a mortal sin, didn’t you know?
YFC, you once again demonstrate the fact that sodomy is so disordered as to render its proponents incapable of discerning a lie from other forms of speech.
Bob Seger wrote the song, “Strut”…based on Jane Fonda’s “wiggle”, which he witnessed while flying on a commercial airline back in the 70’s…
Although Jane Fonda’s “Barbarella” was perhaps the greatest movie ever … ok, ok, “not” … her wiggling on that enemy cannon made her a traitor, at least in the realm of symbols, a realm that could not be prosecuted. Fonda would see anyone’s throat cut on a whim. Her father, Henry Fonda, was always portraying some sort of evil empire also … but much more subtlely. I wonder what their father/daughter relationship really consisted of.
Folks, Bradley Manning remains securely in the hands of the military authorities. He will be convicted of multiple crimes for which he will almost certainly be sentenced to life imprisonment. He will not be able to participate in the parade in San Francisco.
As for treason, it is very likely that one or more individuals is in the possession of confidential communications revealing how the Obama administration abandoned our Ambassador to Libya and the three others who were killed by the mob in Benghazi. If one of them came forward with those cables now, would you classify that as treason? Perhaps you would even be willing to hold a parade in his honor.
Can anyone explain what Bradley Manning and the Pride parade have to do with being Catholic? Pride isn’t a Church function, Manning doesn’t represent Catholics (is he himself Catholic?). Nobody has represented Pride as a Catholic event. Just what is the point of putting this story on a “Catholic” web site?
It seems to me this website has way too many stories about gay this and SSA that.
Francis, the answer lies in the psychology of obsession. Unhealthy obsession.
YFC, Catholicism is not psychology. Psychology was born of the Enlightenment and is a limited science. Exalting psychology over Catholicism is a mortal sin; you are doomed if you do not reject your idolatry.
Francis, why don’t you explain why you fancy yourself a Catholic?
Skai:
First, you answer my 100% on-topic question, and then I’ll answer your off-topic ad hominem attack. What do Bradley Manning and the Pride event have to do with anything Catholic? Got anything to say on-topic?
Instead of attacking me for asking a question, Not My Fellow Catholic, defend the actions of Your Fellow Homosexuals. I am offering the notion that this question needs to be asked. Attack me personally, and you are seen by all as an intellectual failure. Attack the question and pick a side and let’s explore it with our minds, not our swords raised against one another. Truth needs to be served here; are we dealing with a group so demented as to be dangerous to us all? If so, my compassion for those afflicted, and my admiration for those who manage to rise above the temptations of the flesh (which of course all begin in the mind) is perhaps best re-examined. I am calling for an examination of a questions it is not fashionable to raise, hoping to find a few people courageous enough to explore the question without instead settling for a knifing of the one courageous enough to ask the question, knowing that armies of idiots will reach for their swords rather than taking a few moments to look around at their fellow homosexuals before responding to those they would like to imagine to be their fellow Catholics.
To be my fellow Catholic, you must first be Catholic, sir. I have to struggle to be civil to you knowing you are actually anti-Catholic and anti-heterosexual and anti-feminist and anti-woman and everything else I am, while pretending to share my faith. If you ever stop lying to yourself and look at the profound error of yours ways of sin and abandon active homosexuality, and follow that magic trick by giving up attacking others as a substitute for intellectual discourse, I will gain respect for your approach to life and acknowledge you as my fellow Catholic. In the meantime, now that I’ve pointed out the error of your style of living and thinking, please let’s discuss the merits of a positive or negative answer to my question, not the merits of my own lifestyle and thinking.
I’ve seen lots of your writing that I could call treasonous to the Catholic faith, MFC. It would interest me to know if you also despise our government as much as you despite those who do not admire you or your lifestyle? Do you despise those who commit treason against all of us, or do you forgive or even admire it when it is committed by your fellow homosexual? Not that your own personal slant on life is representative of the entire homosexual community, but it would be interesting to read the words of a hater on this subject.
Anyone with any sense of proportion or passion for truth knows that when a person treats faceless groups of people with vile and disdain, as you do on here, Maryanne to gay people, that it is that person who has convicted herself. And then you go on to accuse me of being anti-heterosexual and anti- woman….where oh where have I ever said anything anti heterosexual or anti woman? If there is a single instance, please let me know, I would want to retract it. Or is this just another baseless accusation?
YFC’s support of civil gay marriage and gay adoption, which is contrary to the Church’s stand (he has said that he does not support forcing churches to marry gays) and his semblance of sin in having a gay partner (he has implied that he lives the Church’s teaching on chastity), are not treasonous to the faith, certainly not anti-heterosexual or anti-woman. It is hard to discuss these issues with him because other posters always come on to threaten him or insult him.
Anonymous, no matter how hard you try and justify being duped by the gay agenda apologists, it cannot be justified. They are perveyors of evil.
You can’t fight fire with fire.
Anony is that how you see it…fighting fire with fire? Wow….it’s a pity, I’m afraid you just added more fire with your bullet comment.
Thank you anonymous. I would welcome an honest discussion of the issues, and I usually try to ignore the insults and unfounded accusations. I’m not as good at that as I would like.
It is my unalterable perception based on everything I’ve read of yours for way too long. I tire of your diatribe and personal attacks. I do have probably too much compassion for anyone cursed with a mental disorder, including obsessions, which I note you have about homosexuality. I am bored with the subject, bored with you, and see that you have no ability to discuss the question I raised, but you do make excellent attempts to make me feel humiliated. Fortunately, I do not, as you are not even close to the truth in your personal attacks on me, which are also boring. I hereby dismiss you as a conversant but will pray for your conversion to Catholicism and your turning away from sin and turning toward the light. I truly do wish you well in your journey to sane living and thinking but cannot allow myself to be drawn into your disgusting web of sin any longer, even in exchanging thoughts with you. Your thoughts are not worthy of consideration by anyone trying to stay focused on that which is good and holy.
Do yourself and your eternal soul the most important favor possible and sincerely do try to discern how to turn your life-crushing obsession into a life-affirming true dedication to this wonderful faith, a gift to us all from God Himself. We are blessed to have been offered the opportunity to know, love and serve Jesus Christ, Our Lord. Don’t miss your chance.
Hogwash, YFC. Your rants are direct attacks on the great works on the person by Bl John Paul II. Your diatribes on how glorious the sodomites and their noble cause are refutations against the Holy Spirit. Your long awaited Anti-Christ, False Prophet, Whore of Babylon, Beast heros will meet you at the gates of hell if you do not turn away from your folly and enslavement.
Dear Skai – as you and other CCD readers know well. I’ve offered no diatribes or glorious invocations as you purport. I’ve merely asked a few pertinent questions about how to treat folks who do not follow your stereotypical portrayal of LGBT people.
YFC, “a sense of proportion … for the truth”? Did you learn this type of rhetoric by reading “Animal Farm” by George Orwell?
I have responded directly to your question, Maryanne. Does it not matter to you that asking your question would have you drummed out of the military you appear hell-bent to defend? Must one “despise our government” to object to that?
I hadn’t heard that Freedom of Speech, for which many have fought and not a few died, has been outlawed by our military. I don’t believe for a minute that wondering just what mental problems people have who hate our country enough to betray it would get anyone drummed out of the military. How is it that you purport to “know” such a thing? The FBI and all of our major universities with Departments of Psychology have a lot of faith in personal profiling and utilize it to find criminals. I have a lot of faith in it too, but I realize there is still more to learn about who has a mind sufficiently warped to commit traitorous acts against our country. Obviously those who do not fit in are the usual suspects, and those who are aggressive against their so-called “fellows,” whether Catholic or not, are also interesting characters who deserve to be better understood, both for their own benefit and for the protection of the rest of us. Gay “fellow”, Bradley Manning: case in point.
I’ve been in the military, and even if your exposure is limited to John Wayne movies, you should recognize that it is a command-down organization in which “Freedom of Speech” can be, and often is, severely restricted.
Orders are orders, and the orders are that homosexuals are good soldiers and are to be welcomed in. Any officer who would repeat your question on duty, or in a public setting would get – at minimum – a career-blocking fitness report and retired at the next opportunity. As an enlisted man, you would get blocked at E-6, when interviews are required.
You could look up the case of Captain Honors or General Boykin, but there are many recent cases you could look at, including the threats against Chaplains that have been reported in this newspaper.
This story can only be here to allow folks to bash gays and wave the flag anyway. Certainly the military, the largest provider of institutionalized daycare in the world which puts mothers in combat is hardly a defender of Catholic value even before its latest homosexual policies.
As for Bradley Manning, he has been straightforward about his motivations – he hoped to stop the Iraq War. In that attempt he joined the company of Blessed John Paul II, who similarly tried, and failed, to stop a deadly war that has done great harm to Christendom.
**As for Bradley Manning, he has been straightforward about his motivations – he hoped to stop the Iraq War. In that attempt he joined the company of Blessed John Paul II, who similarly tried, and failed, to stop a deadly war that has done great harm to Christendom.** Total crock o’ dung … in fact, this statement competes with the bigger dunghills of history. No sodomite or effeminate has anything straightforward about him or her at all; they are deceivers, whether they intend it or not … because they are morally disordered. A moral disorder affects every aspect of a soul, and is not some compartment that can be opened or closed. Sodomy is total disorder of human nature. Manning has nothing in common with Bl John Paul II; furthermore, Bl JP2 brought the Soviet empire to a grinding halt … ending far more warfare than what is presently happening in the world, and which opened up many third world regions to the goods of the industrialized world. Manning is a mite on a flea; John Paul II is “the Great”. Confusing these two is perhaps the best definition of insanity one could ever compose.
When you’re not fighting, they make a big deal over what you say. When you’re fighting for your lives, they don’t care what you say. Today’s military is not even close to fighting for its life, and thus is more concerned about how well it can namby pamby itself. They call these types “candy ^$$” armies”. Sure, there are a few good men out on the battle front, but the struggle for life or death is for them only and not for the tutu wearing generals and admirals and politicians who arrange the battle fronts.
Maryanne, I don’t think Your Fellow Catholic is attacking you personally but reread your comment of 5/2, 1:50 PM. You really come on strong and you lift the veil off of your hatred of homosexual persons. Change the word “homosexual” to that of another group and maybe you will understand how harsh and offensive the words in that post are. Maybe then you can understand how Your Fellow Catholic feels. You are labeling a whole group of people as mentally disordered.
And speaking of TRAITORS, or possible traitors, on the NEWSMAX website this morning is printed the story of how OUR State Dept. HIRED an AL QAEDA military outfit to DEFEND Amb. Chris Smith and the other 4 people MURDERED by AL QAEDA sympathizers or even an AL QAEDA military outfit itself in Benghazi on September 11, 2013! OBAMA IS THE COMMANDER-IN CHIEF of the U.S. military. How and Why did he LET THIS HAPPEN? Once again, this country needs to be delivered from this demonic maniac Obama (think I’m harsh? see “THE VORTEX” run by Michael Voris, a very outspoken CATHOLIC TRADITIONALIST on the Internet in his very recent post). And the remedy, once again, for cretins like Obama, and IN the Constitution, is IMPEACHMENT! This man NEEDS TO GO! IMPEACH OBAMA NOW, before it’s TOO LATE! Write your congresspeople and DEMAND IT. GOD BLESS ALL, MARKRITE
How and why, markrite??? Are you not aware of the long long list of deceased people in the Clinton train?
Someone sent me an email about the amazing ‘coincidences’ of fatalities among the Clintons’ followers…something like 51 all told. Most of the them were unsolved or really strange events. Would sure make a thriller movie or book, or maybe not…too preposterous!
We must be pure. I do not speak merely of the purity of the senses. We must observe great purity in our will, in our intentions, in all our actions.’
–St. Peter Julian Eymard
and
“Only the chaste man and the chaste woman are capable of true love.”
–Pope John Paul II
and
“To be pure, to remain pure, can only come at a price, the price of knowing God and loving him enough to do his will. He will always give us the strength we need to keep purity as something as beautiful for him.”
–Blessed Mother Teresa
Praise Be JESUS Christ for HIS natural law..
Treasonous Palestinian movement picks traitor ‘Jesus Christ’ as leader.
In an insult to both the Roman empire and the Sanhedrin, Jewish radicals have selected a self confessed traitor, law denier and sabbath breaker, Jesus Christ, as their leader.
Jesus refused military service in the Empire, even advising his followers to love the enemies of the state.
‘His nomination was a mistake, and should never have happened,’ said Pontius Pilate.
Jesus was not sought by the Roman Empire for military service. Jesus held up a Roman Centurian as an example of faith. He or John the Baptist said soldiering is ok. Dora, you’re making warriors the enemies of the state and hating them; do you think Jesus would approve?
for those that accuse us of hate and mean words, they are not our own sentiments, they are actually done in charity as have always been taught by mother church:
‘What shall we then do, my brethren? Do you not see that God is angered? He can no longer bear with us. The Lord is angry. Do you not behold the scourges of God increasing every day? Our sins increase, says St. John Chrysostom, and our scourges increase likewise. God, my brethren, is wrathful: but with all his anger he has commanded me to say, what he formerly commanded to be said by the prophet Zachary: And thou shall say to them, Thus says the Lord of Hosts: Turn to Me says the Lord of Hosts, and I will turn to you says the Lord of Hosts. Sinners, says the Lord, you have turned your backs upon me, and therefore have constrained me to deprive you of my grace. Do not oblige me to drive you forever from my face, and punish you in hell without hope of pardon. Have done with it: abandon sin, be converted to me, and I promise to pardon you all your offences, and once more to embrace you as my children.’~~~St. Alphonsus Maria de Liguori
Reading all this hatred makes me want to crawl right back into my San Francisco bubble, where people are Mad at the San Francisco Pride Parade comittee for going back on their plan to make Bradley Manning grand Marshal, not for making it in the first place. Oh, and those people include Catholic Priests. You know, the ones who actualy base their lives an the teachings of a guy named Jesus.
Shame on you for disrespecting the Holy name of God and His teachings.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church
PART THREE
LIFE IN CHRIST
SECTION TWO
THE TEN COMMANDMENTS
CHAPTER ONE
“YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND”
ARTICLE 2
THE SECOND COMMANDMENT
You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.72
You have heard that it was said to the men of old, “You shall not swear falsely. . But I say to you, Do not swear at all.73
* I. THE NAME OF THE LORD IS HOLY
2142 The second commandment prescribes respect for the Lord’s name. Like the first commandment, it belongs to the virtue of religion and more particularly it governs our use of speech in sacred matters.
2143 Among all the words of Revelation, there is one which is unique: the revealed name of God. God confides his name to those who believe in him; he reveals himself to them in his personal mystery. The gift of a name belongs to the order of trust and intimacy. “The Lord’s name is holy.” For this reason man must not abuse it. He must keep it in mind in silent, loving adoration. He will not introduce it into his own speech except to bless, praise, and glorify it.74
2144 Respect for his name is an expression of the respect owed to the mystery of God himself and to the whole sacred reality it evokes. The sense of the sacred is part of the virtue of religion:
The irony of a Catholic organization criticizing SF Pride for tolerating NAMBLA, given the Catholic Church’s own voluminous history of tolerating priests who had sexual relations with altar boys and such, is rather staggering.
More to the point, Catholics who support the military-government establishment over a brave young man who acted as a whistleblower and exposed war crimes are shamefully behaving as traitors to their faith.
What would Jesus do? I certainly don’t think he would support keeping Bradley Manning in jail for over 1,000 days without trial, at times under conditions that Amnesty International and other human rights groups have said amounted to torture!