The following comes from a December 17 Christian Newswire release.
The Ratio Christi chapter at San Jose State University received a letter from the university stating that the club has been “de-recognized.” In the letter, school officials explained their actions to be in compliance with a new California State University executive order regarding how an organization selects its officers.
Ratio Christi, like many other campus Christian organizations, requires that chapter officers adhere to the Christian faith and biblical beliefs. This means that non-Christians, or Christians who do not feel it is necessary to follow New Testament principles as a guide for their daily lives, are not eligible for officer positions in the group. The state of California now deems this as “discriminatory” and punishable by de-recognition.
“Colleges and universities should be encouraging student leadership, not stifling it,” said Ratio Christi president Rick Schenker. “All college students, including religious students, should have the right to form groups around shared beliefs and choose leaders who reflect those beliefs without being shut down and kicked off campus. Imagine the College Democrats being required to have a Republican student leader, or the local chapter of PETA being required to have a meat-eating leader. The results of the Cal State policy are simply ridiculous.”
In their letter to the SJSU Ratio Christi chapter, school officials explained the consequences of being “de-recognized,” a list that ranged from not being eligible for student funding and financial services to not being allowed to participate in student organization fairs, ceremonies, or training.
Ratio Christi welcomes and invites all students to attend campus meetings. Atheists have attended the meetings. However, as a Christian student-led group, there are certain criteria for obtaining and maintaining leadership positions within the chapters, namely a faith in Jesus Christ and a lifestyle that is consistent with biblical principles. In order to be reinstated, Ratio Christi would have to give up their freedom to choose their own student leaders in accordance with these beliefs.
To read the original release, click here
I bet if it were a Muslim or LGBT club……..NO PROBLEM!!!
As a California tax payer this and that Planned Parenthood received a 40% increase in ‘funding’ from our legislature up in Sacramento really makes me feel ashamed of this once beautiful state where my family has lived for generations!
The state has been hijacked!!!
First off, I don’t think San Jose State ever said, as the headline claimed, “Drop Dead”. It is not lawful to lie, so says the catechism. They simply issued a policy that you disagree with. I do also disagree with the policy, but I don’t take it that they tell me to drop dead.
Secondly and slightly beside the point, but I have no where else to post this: As much as I hate The Vortex, and as much as I disagree with most all of Michael Vortex’s conclusions and almost all of his methodologies, I do appreciate this video, posted today, in which he explains his motivations. It IS motivational, and I would ask all of those who find my posts encouraging as well as those who disagree with me frequently, to go to this (albeit long….wait till the end!!) video of a presentation he did in November: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_R0UkkdmZQ
The Catechism also says that homosexual acts are mortal sins.
Think about this YCF (Your Fellow Catholic).
Until you repent of your public promotion of homosexual acts and homosexual marriage, you may not receive Holy Communion.
Repentance requires reparation – and this includes for your public scandal.
Ava, why are you completely changing the subject?? Are you infected with the obsession that causes so many on CCC to divert every conversation to one about the gay thing? If so, know that there is professional help for obsessive disorders.
YFC (Your Fellow Catholic), until you stop advocating/promoting known MORTAL SINs (homosexual acts which include homosexual marriage)
the rest of your personal opinions must remain Suspect since your JUDGMENT and your GOALS are jaded in MORTAL SIN – per your own posts.
You certainly are NOT a Faithful Catholic, and it is important for all readers to know this at all times, lest you lead them astray.
Other posters should continue to point this out so new readers will understand where you are coming from. It is certainly not in adhering to Sacred Scripture or the CCC.
Even your chosen moniker is meant to deceive.
If you are a Catholic at all, you are a ‘heretic’ based upon Church definition CCC 2089.
And Catholics should never assume a heretic is correct in matters of Faith and Morals.
Apparently, you just don’t like the fact that I make a few good points now and then that you happen to disagree with, and you have no argument with what I say on it’s merits, so you have to make up a reason to try to discredit me. Merry Christmas to you, AVA and everyone.
YFC its no surprise you hate the Vortex and Voris, he is exposing the counterfeiters like you and the rest of the progressives… its all coming to an end
Ratio Christi needs to get a lawyer. They also need to make this kind of childish outrage public. The people at SJSU (never exactly Harvard-in-the-Valley anyway) must think that every Christian in CA is stupid. (Actually, Jews, Muslims, and others of religious belief should be equally outraged.)
What is intended by this “rule” is the elimination of the ability to join, to assemble, to learn from others of like faith. Of course they knew what they were doing (just like the Catholic bishops know what they are doing by virtually “outlawing” Tradition and the TLM — its power will overwhelm the feminized “faith” now foisted upon Catholics). They do not want organized groups to get State money to actually stand up for moral principles. Much better to give money to the entirely awful people at Planned Parenthood, and various other anti-life and pro-sex without standards organizations.
No to public money for fornication, for homosexual sex, for murder of the pre-born. Yes to the exercise of the First Amendment. Yes to Jesus Christ and His true Church, the Roman Catholic Church.
Oh yes, the incompetent, and morally bankrupt administration of SJSU should be immediately terminated. Some effort should also be made to create a more demanding “university” anyway, where young adults are actually taught something (other than lies about Columbus and to cover up the utter savagery of the Aztecs and other aboriginal “First Americans”).
“[T]he consequences of being “de-recognized,” a list that ranged from not being eligible for student funding and financial services….” When is it ever going to sink in that if you take your funding from the government, you’re going to have to play by their rules?
Also, this happened quite awhile back, a fact that was left out of the article:
Also, this seems like a group promoting fundamentalist Christian apologetics:
I don’t want my tax dollars supporting what probably amounts to an anti-Catholic group operating with state funds on state property. An orthodox Catholic could never lead this organization because they wouldn’t be able to sign off on the group’s definition of scripture.
So just curious, if it is an anti-Catholic group, you don’t want it to be recognized or receive university funds. If it is a pro-catholic group, you would feel otherwise? Why?
As I said earlier, I disagree with the policy of the university. I do so, assuming that they COULD administer those funds fairly among all religious and non-religious groups evenhandedly. As long as they do so even-handedly, there is no establishment of religion, and no first amendment claims pertain. But if they refuse money to anti-Catholic groups but give money to Catholic groups, if for no other distinction than these, then this state chartered university would be using state funds to establish a pro-catholic religious state. And this would be unconstitutional.
How do you respond Dave N.?
All I’m saying is that all groups which do receive state funding should abide by the same rules. If your religious group is inherently “anti-” some other religion (which is the aim of most groups that are overtly apologetical) they don’t deserve state funding in a situation where people of many religions or no religion are contributing.
Perhaps state funding of student groups could be eliminated. They can raise their own money.
Also note that Ratio Christi is endorsed by CARM, one of the most repugnant anti-Catholic groups on the Internet:
https://ratiochristi.org/partners And personnel work closely with CARM:
Ratio Christi describes CARM’s work here, where Catholics are lumped together with groups such as Islam, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and Wicca.
The headline was clearly meant as a piece of hyperbole. It echoed the famous New York Daily News headline during the Gerald Ford presidency, when the federal government rejected economically distressed New York City’s plea for a financial bailout. “Ford to New York: Drop Dead,” read the headline.Anyone who thought Ford actually said that…well, what can one say?
Probably a good thing that SJSU has done. Thanks for the references
This is just another STUPID law adopted by the Democratic State Legislature and Moonbeam Governor Brown. And is probably unconstitutional.
A new California State “Executive Order” ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Someone needs to be fired and/or removed from office.
Republicans as officers in the Democratic Caucus Club;
Beef, chicken and turkey food promoters as officers in PETA;
KKK students as officers of African American Club and Black Student Union;
Only those of Italian decent as officers of the Chinese Club;
Rappers as officers of the Ballroom Dancing club;
Golfers as officers of Basketball sports, etc.