My afternoon talk was on the ministry to LGBTQ+ persons, and given by Anna Carter, a member of that community and a faithful and articulate, Catholic, herself. Speaking about this topic in our diocesan communication and media channels in a way that is pastoral and recognizes God’s unconditional love for all his children, but also witnesses our Church’s belief in God’s life-giving creation of man and woman can be challenging. So I am always open to learning and dialoguing more about it. There was no magic prescription, of course, but Anna encouraged us to look at in the sacramental framework of the Congress: Taken – Blessed – Broken – Given.
Later in the afternoon, feeling the need for the Eucharist, myself, I walked across town to Holy Rosary Church for a Latin Mass celebrated by Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone of San Francisco. The church was packed and there were perhaps 500 more people watching via technology under a tent across the street. Wow. There is unmistakenly a hunger and devotion for this more traditional manifestation of the liturgy. It was a reverent and moving experience, and I was struck by the contrast between this traditional set-up and the high production, contemporary feel of the opening Revival Session last night. In his homily, Archbishop Cordileone proposed “10 ingredients to make a good recipe for a Eucharistic Revival.” They included recovering a sense of silence before and after Mass, observing at least a one-hour fast before Mass, wearing your Sunday best, practicing a good prayer life throughout the week, and making a regular Confession so you are fully prepared to receive the Eucharist. This made me think of our diocesan Synodal theme “back to basics.”
By San Bernardino diocese vice-chancellor John Andrews in Inland Catholic Byte
Yeah. Sad and pitiful, isn’t it, that there are people with nefarious intentions bent on using this beautiful Mass in order to put down the Second Vatican Council as well as the Ordinary Form of the Mass–which can be offered just as reverently and devoutly as the Extraordinary Form.
Cordileone offers the Ordinary Form in a reverent and solemn way. That, folks, should be your focus.
Focus on the the Sacrifice of Our Lord in whatever form it’s offered, but with a stronger heart to the Ordinary Form because it is the “lex orandi” of the Catholic Church. That is Pope Francis’ point in his “Traditionis Custodes.” God bless the Pope!
You totally misunderstand. Archbishop Cordileone did not say anything about Vatican II at all. He gave some excellent suggestions to improve your spiritual life. Wht don’t you try them, and see for yourself? Being neurotic about a church council is not spirituality, and does not make you a better Catholic or a better person.
The issue is never about Cordileone. I never indicated that he was.
The issue is the divisive people who are using this beautiful form of the Mass in order to divide the Church.
The man in this article really got something great out of the Eucharistic Congress, which he shared. That is most wonderful,
When your boss pays for you to take a trip, what do you expect the employee to say about it?
“The issue is the divisive people who are using this beautiful form of the Mass in order to divide the Church.” Why do you impute base motives to those attending the TLM? It seems to me that they attend for the reason stated: “There is unmistakenly a hunger and devotion for this more traditional manifestation of the liturgy. ” To suppose their intent is to divide the church is a simple calumny. Shame on you, jon.
Well said.
The “base motives” of division and dissent present in some, if not many, of those attending the EF are referred to by the Pope in the motu propio “Traditionis custodes.”
Their base motives are also pointed to by many bishops who responded to the survey from the Vatican concerning the implementation of “Summorum pontifical,” a survey that formed a basis for “Traditions custodes.”
It is incumbent upon those who are devoted to the EF yet who may not have any divisive intentions, “base motives” to speak up and condemn the divisiveness and dissent they see among their co-devotees.
Yet the non-dissenting devotees of the EF are largely silent on the divisiveness they see. Silent. Their silence is deafening; silence implies consent.
Jon is too divisive and full of criticism, “hate speech” and “cancel culture,” today. He wants to “cancel” this article, all about a guy who shared some great things he liked about the Euchsristic Congress. Jon didn’t like that. So, you had better do as jon says, and don’t print such articles– or he will certainly “go nuts,” and tell you that you are “divisive,” since you do not “agree” with “Emperor jon.” Very manipulative.
🤣 Ha Ha Ha, Recent events in the outside world have destroyed the argument that jon is making here. I am sure that other commentators can speak about such things better than I can. jon’s standard argument is outdated. He needs to find new material.
jon, do you have a problem with those who kneel to receive Holy Communion (at an Ordinary Form Mass)?
These people didn’t pay for themselves to attend. Your offertory contributions and your annual appeal contributions paid for their pilgrimage vacations in full.
Now the question is, what return for that expenditure will the diocese and parishes experience?
I expect nothing. Nothing will be different. Nothing will improve. This event is being heralded as a new Pentecost, but let’s see what improves on the ground. It’s like a Taylor Swift concert: maybe fun to be there, but when it’s over you quickly move on and it made no difference in real life.
So here’s what happened: the bishops put on an event that was financed through the USCCB budget, which receives contributions from diocese, which are taken from the assessments/taxes of parish offertory collections. Hotel and travel and food and registration expenses were paid for by dioceses and parishes to send people to this event out of parish and diocesan budgets, again out of offertory collections.
The insiders put this on for other insiders, and they didn’t pay for it: you did, and you got nothing for it.
Talk about taxation without representation. The Church has become a self-serving bureaucracy almost as bad and corrupt as the federal government.
What is “Who” talking about? What planet are you on?
Spending money to deepen Catholics’ reverence and respect for the Blessed Sacrament is worth the money spent on it.
Spending money on adoring God is worth it.
You sound like Judas, “Who” said, “Such money is better spent on the poor.”
I guarantee you that Catholics who attend a Traditional Latin Mass, or who are traditional Catholics in general, are very well aware of the Real Presence and wouldn’t need their parishes to spend a penny to convince them that the entire Christ is present, God and man, body and blood, soul and divinity.
It’s only in the past six decades that the belief in the Real Presence has declined to a crisis point. Ask yourself about the cause, then look around and observe the people who walk out of Mass as though they’ve just attended a protestant revival, and the other Catholics who, after leaving a sacred and traditional Mass, have become once again sanctified and transformed by receiving the Real Presence.
Ok. Here we go again with this put down of the Ordinary Form. Who are you, “Real,” to judge the people who walk out of the Ordinary Form “as though they’ve just attended a protestant revival”? Who are you to judge the invisible work of the Holy Spirit within those who go to the Ordinary Form? You judge by externals. Pitiful.
Yours is a comment that is divisive, that derides the majority of Catholics who find spiritual nourishment in the Ordinary Form, and who are sanctified by it.
I don’t know who gave you the thumbs down, but you speak the truth.
You wrote, “These people didn’t pay for themselves to attend. Your offertory contributions and your annual appeal contributions paid for their pilgrimage vacations in full.” That is not true. I know people who attended (and they paid for it themselves). The Congress had mission partners, sponsors and exhibitors who helped with the expense. Anyone can get details on that at eucharisticcongress.org
Why lie about the Eucharistic Congress?
It seems there’s something else bothering you. Since you griped publicly, would you like to share what’s really bothering you?
The article’s author is a diocesan vice chancellor. People like him didn’t pay for himself to attend. It was considered a work expense.
The good Archbishop offered a wonderful Mass and gave an inspiring sermon! It was well-attended, by hundreds of devout Catholics, overflowing the church by nore than 500 worshippers, who benefitted greatly from it. That is exactly what a Eucharistic Revival is for. Thank you, Archbishop Cordileone! I am going to implement all of your excellent suggestions and pass this on to others.
Thank you for sharing this. I was edified seeing that this man was blessed by both the Mass celebrated by Archbishop Cordileone and the talk by Anna Carter of Eden Invitation. If you know someone struggling with same-sex attraction or gender discordance, invite them into conversation with the brothers and sisters at Eden Invitation at:
https://www.edeninvitation.com/
Speaking of Indianapolis– there is a current, top housing market in Ft. Wayne, IN, where you can buy a beautiful, well-built, large, traditional, two-story home, with typically 3 bedroons, and a fireplace, on a big property, with large, expansive green lawns, and trees, flowers, shrubs, foliage, etc.– in front and back, and lovely, clean sidewalks on charming, tree-lined streets, in beautiful, clean, very green, picturesque Midwestern neighborhoods– in price ranges of around $200,000! Some family homes are a little newer, single-story, typically 3-bedrooms. All are much, much nicer, and cost far less, than anything in CA– no comparison! The only thing missing– is year-round, good CA weather. Ft. Wayne is 123 miles from Indianapolis, and 90 miles from Univ. of Notre Dame, in South Bend, IN. The Catholic Diocese of Ft. Wayne-South Bend covers the areas of these two cities. I am dreaming of the turn-of-the-century style, large, beautiful, well-built two-story, classic Midwestern big, family-size, two-story homes– built on large, grassy lots, with lots of trees, flowers, foliage, etc., and a place to park or store your car, converted from a horse-and-carriage stall, in the back. Perfect to celebrate Christmas in– with snow! Just like the large, beautiful, picturesque homes in the classic film, “Meet Me in St. Louis!” As a child, I did not like the pretty, picturesque SF Victorian homes so much, because the homes had smaller rooms (but pretty, hardwood floors were nice, and each home had its own character), and the homes were all on smaller properties– no nice, big yards to run around and play in. No friendly, easy neighborhoods, where you know everyone, with large, expansive lawns right next to each other, making it easy for kids to be very comfortable, playing, running all over the place. Riding bikes, playing games, anything. No worries. Very quiet, very safe, few cars. Anyone want to make some plans to move out of CA to the Midwest? Only thing missing, to me– is good CA weather.
How many Democrats live there?
47, as long as more California refugees don’t move there and mess it up.
Pence was the governor: I guess there is something wrong with the air in California. It must be climate change related.
Yes, California is very famous for having the best weather in all 50 states! Ft. Wayne, Indiana, is noted for having a much nicer, much higher quality, Midwestern way of life, compared to the sick, liberal, Left-Coast, “Californiacated ” California.
Ft. Wayne, Indiana, has much lower crime rates, very low multi-culturalism and its problems (yes, they are all mostly White, with some Blacks, but few other races), lower taxes, lower than the average cost of living, most average types of jobs will provide a good and decent life, and plenty to raise a family on — with also very affordable, well-below-average prices for good housing (most people own their own homes), and it is mostly suburban, with green, lovely neighborhooods (not like highly urbanized, “Californiacated” Calif. housing), nice and quiet, with friendly people, and low traffic, and very low job commutes. However, in Indiana, the winters are quite cold and snowy, with very warm and humid summers. Only big problem I can think of, now, is—- what’s going on with the horrible LGBT groups, out there? Did they already ruin the schools, and the libraries? Do they have “Pride” parades? YUK! Well– still want to move, and be a Hoosier, anyway– along with former Gov. Mike Pence?
Bishop Cozzens, who headed up the Eucharistic Congress, was interviewed before by Fr. Dave Pivonka TOR and Dr. Scott Hahn in the interview linked below, if you’re interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnqJFDPgReE
You’ll learn about Eucharistic Congresses, processions and Adoration over the years, as they discuss the Eucharist and the Mass. You’ll see a context for what happened and is still happening. I encourage you to listen to this shepherd bishop.
There’s a mean-spirited poster down-voting excellent comments.
The Eucharistic Congress was like the Academy Awards for American Catholicism. That’s not a compliment.
What do you mean by that?
Jesus was clearly more present at the Eucharistic Congress than at the Academy Awards.