Posted Friday, June 15, 2012 11:27 AM By Kenneth M. Fisher
All Missons should be offering a Tridentine Mass, the Mass of their Founders! God bless, yours in Their Hearts, Kenneth M. Fisher |
Posted Friday, June 15, 2012 5:42 PM By max
kenneth, perhaps you could offer a course on latin, and a course on how to properly celebrate the TLM, for all these churches and missions? i have been told the TLM is very different from the mass most of us attend, so priests would need extensive training on how to do the TLM reverently, with aknowledge of latin, and of course the numerous rubrics which are very diffetrent. this would keep you busy, but then, “idle hands are the devil’s tools,” you know… |
Posted Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:06 AM By JLS
max, there is a de facto suppression against priests learning the TLM; however, there are people willing to teach them. |
Posted Saturday, June 16, 2012 7:26 PM By Kenneth M. Fisher
Several Religious Institutes (they are not Orders in the strict sense of the word) offer complete Video courses on how to celebrate the Mass of St. Pius V. I know that the Institute of Christ the King, the Fraternity of St. Peter, and Society of St. Pius X offer these coursed for free to qualified priests. God bless, yours in Their Hearts, Kenneth M. Fisher |
Posted Saturday, June 16, 2012 11:58 PM By Gratias
Our host Kenneth M. Fisher has it exactly right. All Missions should offer the Traditional Latin Mass for which they were specifically built. Mission San Juan Capistrano offers one every-Sunday early in the morning. Mission San Juan Buenaventura offers Missa Cantata every-Sunday at 1:30 pm. It is well worth the drive from Los Angeles. The missions were returned to the Church by Abraham Lincoln fo worship. In California bishops could agree having a TLM every Sunday in all missions this would go a long way to achieving their unfulfilled duties with respect to Summorum Pontificum. In Los Angeles proper, Mission San Gabriel is just a museum offering no mass at all; it should house a personal parish for the FSSP. |
Posted Sunday, June 17, 2012 12:15 AM By Gratias
San Antonio de Pala is beautiful in its architectural simplicity. Thank you for posting. Max, priests interested in learning the traditional mass need only contact Una Voce. That is what they do. Google “Una Voce Ventura” for example. They have trained at least two Diocesan priests I know of, and gained a vocation for the FSSP from their Latin Mass community. Their website has a nice gallery of how Latin Mass in a California mission looks like. Gratias |
Posted Sunday, June 17, 2012 4:15 PM By DC
They should have Franciscans saying the TLM. CFRs, EWTN Friars, Friars of the Immaculate Heart are orders that come to mind. |
Posted Sunday, June 17, 2012 7:01 PM By MacDonald
“Posted Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:06 AM By JLS max, there is a de facto suppression against priests learning the TLM; however, there are people willing to teach them.” JLS, your words to max (about suppression) are not true here in the Archdiocese of San Francisco, where the Archbishop himself has ASKED priests to step up and learn how to say the TLM for the sake of the faithful. My pastor even showed me the letter he received from the Archbishop, who obviously wants to make this Mass MORE available, not less. (I have no idea how many priests responded to Archbishop Niederauer’s plea, but he did make it.) |
Posted Monday, June 18, 2012 7:23 AM By max
“By Gratias —Our host Kenneth M. Fisher has it exactly right.” gratias, what do you mean by OUR HOST? does kenneth run this websitee? i never knew. |
Posted Monday, June 18, 2012 10:57 AM By Tracy
By Gratias June 16, 11:58 PM “Mission San Gabriel is just a museum offering no mass at all; it should house a personal parish for FSSP.” By Gratias, from what cloud did you pull this information? I would advise you to go to CCD’s “Churches Worth Driving To” section and scroll down to “San Gabriel Mission Archangel”. There you will clearly see that numerous Masses are offered there including English in the Old Mission and English, Spanish and Vietnamese in the “Chapel”. The Claritians are in service of it. Granted the information was posted March 5, 2010, but to my knowledge the parish has not since closed. |
Posted Monday, June 18, 2012 1:42 PM By Kenneth M. Fisher
Tracy, 10:57 AM, Thank you for stating what you did, I have attended many masses, including ordinations in the original Mission San Gabriel. God bless, yours in Their Hearts, Kenneth M. Fisher |
Posted Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:36 PM By Janek
Tracy, that would be a great idea there are so many un-used and closed churches, but most bishops will not let the F.S.S.P. or Institute of Christ the King have access to these. Can you imagine how many souls can be saved if these Traditional orders were allowed to take over these? |
Name of Church San Antonio de Pala
Additional observations The Pala Mission is a sub-mission of Mission San Luis Rey. It is located 23 miles inland from Oceanside and is part of the diocese of San Diego. The Pala Casino is a prominent feature nearby (but it has no connection to the church!) The mission was founded by Father Antonio Peyri in 1816. At its height of prosperity it served 1,300 Indian converts; its grounds had plentiful crops and livestock. It was seized by the Mexican government in the 1830s, and later sold to private parties. The property was finally returned to the Church and restoration of the aging buildings began. Its exterior features include a bell tower, courtyard, beautiful gardens and a cemetery. The interior features rustic Indian art, including statues, a crucifix, and painted images on the walls. Take a self-guided tour of the grounds for $2, enjoy the gardens and museum rooms with artifacts.
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