Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:18 AM By Bakersfield Crusader
Looks like that mole that once dressed up as Hitler has popped back up, this time without the mustache and wearing sheep’s clothing. WHACK! Take that, you snake in the grass. By the way, how about Santorum sweeping the Colorado and Minnesota caucuses as well as the Missouri primary? Of course, no delegates were awarded as these were “beauty contests,” but we’ll take the wins anyway as a boost for him to be the anti-Romney and anti-Obama. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:43 AM By anonymous
I have a lifelong condition that might make some question my validity, whether I have a “life unworthy of life”. But when the Lord calls me to Himself on the last day and confers on me my secret name which He alone knows, I will soar above the pain and humiliation of my temporary, earthly condition. My mortal life is passing like the grass which sprouts today and is gone tomorrow. Who I will really become, He alone knows. The Lord will acquit me according to how faithful I have been fulfilling the conditions He laid down on me, according to His inscrutable will. Praised be His Holy Name. Thanks be to Him, for creating me just as He did. He refrains from preventing no evil but that He will bring unimaginably greater good out of it, if only we trust Him. Perhaps just that is the point of it all. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 3:50 AM By Nancy LaVeque
What a horrible point of view!! What Isabella feels is love and life. She is not a “throw away” child, she is a gift from God. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 4:55 AM By Ally
Thank goodness there is no prenatal test for autism and other mental and emotional diseases. Mental problems are far more “painful” for the victim than physical problems. Will we soon be reading about all the politicians who are selfishly raising autistic children? What would the recommended solution be? |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 5:50 AM By janet
Dear IVAN STRENSKI, hitler (like you) was also a Catholic in name …. there is such a thing as a soul, even in a crippled body. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 5:55 AM By respectlife
Definitely a progressive point of view and definitely not Catholic or true christian beliefs based on the gospel. This is your typical short sighted thinking. God has a plan for everyone and trying to alter this plan only brings evil. May God have mercy on all of us. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:00 AM By Annasher
This woman has no understanding of God, life’s purpose, love … Or Catholicism. She expresses the selfish of the modernist world divorced from the spiritual life. I’m amazed at Rick Santorum’s journey to the presidency. I like him … I never thought this country would let him make it this far. I am hopeful. I’m also trepidatious. What battles does the devil have planned lying ahead? The Santorum’s will need our prayers and sacrifices. Those of us who do know Catholicism know the victory of suffering and abandonment to God’s will. Shame on this author who pretends to care while saying Isabelka never should have been born. I find this woman ignorant and insensitive. Perhaps an argument could be made that she should not have been born to suffer inside her own selfish ignorance. Poor thing … Whose her mother? |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:09 AM By Talitha Kum
I wish people would not identify themselves as a catholic when they share their observations with us about topics that they deem in need of the ‘finger quotations’ to demonstrate a kind of I am Catholic BUT I am not ( ). What aren’t you that Catholics are? Gullible? Blindly compliant? Incapable of having your own thought process? Are you self Identifying as Catholic to please familial opinion while simultaneously distancing yourself to please the “smart people”You can smudge the line in the sand all you want to, but the line of truth is indelible. It takes a lot more courage to dress and profess a fully Catholic life than it does to suit yourself. I think spiritual egoism is saying ‘yeah,but…’ to God! Either you believe that the Catholic faith is inspired by Holy Spirit and instituted by Jesus himself and passed along by apostolic secession or You Do Not! Choose the fullness of the Faith or leave it alone, please! Do not speak as a CINO in the public media about the my Church. The meaning of sacrifice and of suffering are mysterious and inexhaustible; but these and the sanctity of life, are clearly addressed for us in the rich deposit of our Catholic faith. Check it out the CCC. And please, forgive my intemperance. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:11 AM By Vanessa
I couldn’t believe what I was reading! Spiritual egoism? Hmm.. not at all. Rick is embracing life and celebrating the gift of life received from Heaven above. How dare we question the quality of life given to us! Life does not need qualifying! Life never becomes an oxymoron. What faults we notice in others, i.e. the supposed spiritual egoism of Rick, is often a reflection of the writer’s own ego noticing the flaw of his brother as a threat to his own spiritual egoism. Saint Paul says to always focus on the good, the true, and the right in others. The writer indeed lauds Rick as being a faithful Catholic to the teachings of our Beloved Catholic Church in a back handed sort of way… enough said. I pray for Rick as our possible future President of the USA! |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:24 AM By Ted
Please don’t confuse this liberal hack with anything truly “Progressive.” The author, like most liberals, is smug and considers a man like Santorum (a conservative) to be a bigot with a lower IQ. The self-satisfied tone, the superiority of a true snob reveals this person to be the true egoist. Why was this ever allowed to be published ? It’s bird cage liner. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:27 AM By Sandra
Evil writer totally possessed by “smoke and mirror” retoric! She didn’t even sign “her” name–and a coward. Rick Santorum is the true choice for the next President of the United States. Is the contrast to Obama any clearer? |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:39 AM By JLS
It’s a cold hearted and calculated political pitch, one more form of buying and selling souls, this time of an afflicted toddler. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:55 AM By k
In the link, the writer states that Pope Benedict XVI approved the use of condoms for people with AIDS and I do not think that is correct. If it is, would someone post a source. I know much of the media misinterpreted his quote in Light of the World by Seewald to mean that. Also, the writer’s point as horrifying as it is to us, should be addressed seriously. The question is “Is is selfish to bring a child into the world who will suffer.” Every child brought into the world will suffer. When Christ assumed human nature, He knew He would suffer. The writer is showing a false compassion for the little girl. She lacks the insight of seeing the value of life itself. So much evil is justified by the excuse of “preventing suffering.” |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:56 AM By vpmary
Why won’t the people at Progressive View take a survey of the millions of aborted preborn babies asking how they feel about being torn from their mother’s wombs? This is the alternative solution the folks at Progressive View believe is the more unselfish option? What a sickening sanctimonious point of view. My thought is these beautiful babies who are most certainly enjoying the beatific vision would champion the God given gift of life as the precious gift it truly is. May God continue to bless the Santorum family who are true examples of a “lived out faith” + |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 7:03 AM By irene
“Why would one choose, in effect, to take the risk of bringing a doomed child into the world”…doomed child? I wonder if children born with Trisomy 18, down’s syndrome, birth defects, or physical disabilities consider themselves ‘doomed’. I am sure their parents don’t see them that way, and God doesn’t, for sure. Each life is created for a special purpose here. Why some suffer in this life more than others, is a great mystery. However, in faith, we can trust that God has a greater purpose to it all. Unfortunately, there are many, such as this writer, who think they know more than God does. Isabella is one very special child, blessed with a loving family who truly live their faith – an example to us all. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 7:08 AM By Life Lady
Ahh, another snake revealed, the writer of this piece of yellow journalism thinks that her point has some validity? Well, only to strengthen my resolve to help Rick Santorum all I can to get elected. While Isabella may not be the “ideal child” to the writer, she is the gift that keeps on giving, the child who is loved, and continues to be loved, and now we ALL get to love her as well. Such children may not be aware (how do we know that?) but God is aware, and has given us all an opportunity to love her, and to take the Santorum example to our hearts. I am grateful to that family, and any other family out there, by their faith and understanding that life is a precious gift, no matter what it looks like. Jesus taught me that, that sometimes He comes in a not so convenient, pretty, or perfect Way. It is for me to accept His gifts and to love Him more and more. The path to holiness is very narrow. Blessed be God, and His Holy Name! |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 7:21 AM By Tom Byrne
I had two sisters who died in infancy from ALS, and did not make it as long as Isabella, but they were certainly more human than this writer. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 7:28 AM By Juergensen
“But as a fellow Catholic” – This is the problem. Minions of Satan identifying themselves as “Catholic,” deploying such language as to deceive Catholics into voting for the Prince of Abortion, then receiving and profanating the Holy Eucharist, while bishops fiddle. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:04 AM By Vincent
Why is CCD publishing this trash? I’m almost inclined to delete my bookmark to this website. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:08 AM By Brenda
To Juergensen ~ Could it be that CCD is giving us a heads-up regarding what Satan is up to? |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:21 AM By Catherine
Vincent, Please don’t delete your bookmark. Christ needs your voice to educate lost souls. Why are you upset with CCD for showing faithful Catholics how much work is cut out for them, especially in evangelizing fellow Catholics? This story allows us to reflect on how we would personally respond to this writer if God allowed us the opportunity to personally speak with them or someone like them. This article also shows us how torn apart is the Body of Christ. Does this writer attend Mass? Several years ago I read an upsetting story in the local newspaper. The woman also identified herself as a Catholic. She gathered food, clothing and blankets for the poor and drove it to Mexico. She said that she also brought birth control pills so that the poor women would not have to suffer with more babies. I prayed and asked God if it was his will to allow me the opportunity to meet with her. Prayer works! Two weeks later I was driving behind a Costco and there was a woman gathering bread on pallets. All of the sudden I remembered the story and I thought, No way! I stopped the car and asked her if by any chance, if the newspaper had done a story about her? I almost could not believe it myself. It was the woman in the article. We had such a beautiful conversation. God gave me the opportunity to try to reach out to her. I praised her for her generous works but I told her that God would not be pleased with her giving the women the birth control pills. She wanted to know why it was wrong and I explained and she listened. I found out that she rarely attended Mass and she told me she was afraid of going to confession. She said she would think about everything. I gave her a hug and thanked her for listening to a stranger. I told her how special she was to God because I had asked God for the opportunity to meet her and God arranged a divine appointment. This all happened because of a printed newspaper story where someone thought that the could call their behavior Catholic. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:22 AM By Gordon Campbell
Isaiah 5.You’ll EAT those words.Much kinder to murder her in the womb than allow her to die with her family.What is it that is so unholy about the left that they use children to attack their loving conservative parents?I’m thinking of going into the millstone grinding and pond digging business.Business should be booming. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:26 AM By Pat
I could not believe what I was reading. Thank you for all the comments above. You have said it so well. A “Catholic” promoting abortion…when your mother becomes a burden and is suffering, are you going to take her life too? You are in my prayers, always |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:31 AM By Larry
I wonder if all this liberal smugness might have finally caused the opposition to reach critical mass? Could that be the reason behind Santorum’s stunning “hat trick” in the primaries last night? |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:32 AM By Ray
To 6:24 AM By Ted; Maybe your last sentence should read: It’s USED bird cage liner. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:49 AM By mrpkguy
Let’s see if I’ve got this right. Is the “catholic” author suggesting that the Santorums should have aborted (murdered) Isabella? Seems to me this is the drift of the article or am I wrong? |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:56 AM By Stan N.
Vincent, CCD is publishing “this trash” so we can see how demonic the “progressives,” i.e. liberals, really are. Do you think you would have come across this piece anywhere else (doubtful you would not have done your own research) if CCD had not printed it for our benefit? |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:01 AM By Paul
You all got it right this time: Better to die in your mother’s arms than in her womb. Thanks to CalCatholic for shaking us awake. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:05 AM By MIKE
The author of the article does not give only a ‘progressive point of view’ but a HERETICAL and SCHISMATIC point of view. He should never be allowed to call himself Catholic, and should be excommunicated. The author is in violation of the teachings in the “Catechism of the Catholic Church” not only regarding abortion/life issues and the value of every life, but also in his use of the media. Its about time we start publically calling these people HERETICS and SCHISMATICS so that others know the truth of what true Catholics believe and what our Church teaches, and to stop the SCANDALS. CCC: ” 2089 INCREDULITY is the neglect of revealed truth or the willful refusal to assent to it. HERESY is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same. APOSTACY is the total repudiation of the Christian faith. SCHISM is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him.” If we call this author, Polosi, Biden and others “Heretics” in the media often enough – the secular media will final get the message that they are not good Catholics and we can prove it. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:13 AM By Abeca Christian
Catherine Vincent is right, sometimes these stories may be used to educate but it can also backfire on us. I would rather read about his whole family and his story, I admire Rick Santorium and I hope he doesn’t give up, lets keep supporting him. Sometimes we keep crossing that line line. Psychology has always shown that most of the time by what we read often, in repetition nature, we begin to accept things as truth. If you have young and mature minds reading these sort of view points often, it may give the impression that false compassion is good, that showing mercy is ending the life of someone born that way etc. Catherine you and I have strong convictions mostly due to the gifts of graces we’ve been blessed with but others may not. So without any pun intended I could see what Vincent is feeling. We already are bombarded with the liberal point of view. Remember the story is meant to be neutral, what you consider exposure may also be a cheer leading squad for another. My stomach cringed when I read false compassion, to think that someone would take the place of our Lord and decide what life is worth living and what is not, is heart breaking. God bless Rick! He is a wonderful witness of faith and morals thus far! VOTE RICK! |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:21 AM By FrMichael
Did a google search of the author: a sociologist of religion at UC Riverside. Despite his degrees, books, and field of study, he has missed the Heart of the Catholic Faith, the Sacred Heart. He needs our prayers more than the Santorums do. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:24 AM By BobM
Anyone know where my CaliforniaCatholicDaily went? Seems like I just wandered onto the site of CalifornicaPersonified instead. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:44 AM By Anne T.
I laughted when some pundit on television said about the Santorum sweep, “I guess the voters do not listen to the major media.” I thought to myself, “We sure as hell don’t.” |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:18 AM By Mike
Ivan, you’re a quack. Get a life! |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:27 AM By Juergensen
Brenda ~ I am convinced Satan has been crawling this forum for some time, using the forked tongue to beguile Catholics into voting for Obama, to assure the continuation of the slaughter of the innocents. As Fr. George Rutler wrote just a few days ago: “Satan never looks like Satan. He drapes himself in celebrity and humor and humanitarianism, using celebrity to mislead, humor to mock, and humanitarianism to de-humanize. One hatred in him always exposes him for what he is. Because our Lord said that we must become like little children to inherit the Kingdom of heaven, Satan hates babies.” As do Obama and his minions. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:49 AM By RWhite
This is the business of the Santorum family and no one else . At one time the minor children of politicians were off limits as far as most media were concerned. The attacks on the Palin and now the Santorum family is telling . The odious comments from alan colmes , and eugene robinson on how that family mourned the death of a baby was a new low in how far the liberal/ progressive commentators and media will go. The “apologies ” offered by both begs the question on what moral, emotional dysfunction, and sickness of the soul compelled them to laugh , ridicule , and misstate facts on the mourning process of a family in the death of a child , comments done for the sole purpose of cheap political posturing .To have to endure as a parent and as a family such ghoulish sadism of your loss in the news media is beyond disgusting.I also notice that this is in the absence of critical analysis of how he would govern if elected or his stated positions. He is, and this is an observation not a judgement , not the front runner so why the speculation on how a Santorum administration would govern ? could it be be just another excuse to demonize a conservative, a Christian and a Catholic ?. Have the progressive / liberal commentators speculated on liberal / progressive politicians mourning practices ,family dynamics and children’s health and behavior in such a like manner ?. How they would hold up to such public and gratuitous ridicule of their family and children ?. I doubt that negative speculation of other faith practices and traditions would be subject for precious air time or the level and tone of negativity that conservatives and Christians are subjected too . No matter the out come in the primaries the Santorum family is in my thoughts and prayers |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:50 AM By RWhite
This is the business of the Santorum family and no one else . At one time the minor children of politicians were off limits as far as most media were concerned. The attacks on the Palin and now the Santorum family is telling . The odious comments from alan colmes , and eugene robinson on how that family mourned the death of a baby was a new low in how far the liberal/ progressive commentators and media will go. The “apologies ” offered by both begs the question on what moral, emotional dysfunction, and sickness of the soul compelled them to laugh , ridicule , and misstate facts on the mourning process of a family in the death of a child , comments done for the sole purpose of cheap political posturing .To have to endure as a parent and as a family such ghoulish sadism of your loss in the news media is beyond disgusting.I also notice that this is in the absence of critical analysis of how he would govern if elected or his stated positions. He is, and this is an observation not a judgement , not the front runner so why the speculation on how a Santorum administration would govern ? could it be be just another excuse to demonize a conservative, a Christian and a Catholic ?. Have the progressive / liberal commentators speculated on liberal / progressive politicians mourning practices ,family dynamics and children’s health and behavior in such a like manner ?. How they would hold up to such public and gratuitous ridicule of their family and children ?. I doubt that negative speculation of other faith practices and traditions would be subject for precious air time or the level and tone of negativity that conservatives and Christians are subjected too . No matter the out come in the primaries the Santorum family is in my thoughts and prayers |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:08 PM By Dick
I consider myself Liberal, Progressive, Moderate, and Conservative. All of the above and none of the above. The point of view expressed in this article is an abomination and should not be labeled “The Progressive View.” Jesus was a great progressive in his teaching. Many of us who are liberal, progressive, or moderate in our economic philosophies are conservative in reproductive and/or sexual philosophies. I can imagine in rereading this article that I could believe that it was in fact written by someone who is anti-progressive. The intent being to discredit all progressive ideas within the Catholic faith. I am a Catholic with an autistic son who is totally precious to me. The terms liberal, progressive, moderate, or conservative are used by many as pejorative labels. That includes many who have posted here. Shame on you and let’s pray for those who hold to the point of view expressed in this article. God Bless us all. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:15 PM By Traditional Angelo
Santorum sent his kids to a school run by Opus Dei, he said he especially liked what his children were taught about sex, “Abstinence only”. This Country is not ready for Santorum, but he just may be our King of Ninevah. I sure hope so. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:20 PM By Steve Phoenix
My brother who I happen to care for is an autistic adult. Of course there is no known way, and no likely way ever to know pre-natally, an autistic infant child will be born, since their genetic structure is exactly ‘perfect’ like the DNA of the writer of this article, Ivan Strenski. Of course, Mr Strenski couldnt see this irony and probably doesnt even care about it. However, my brother, despite his annoying autistic habits is remarkably intellectually brilliant especially with regard to matters mechanical, musical, and memorizeable. So, if we are going to choose and accept or discard some people, why shouldnt we choose to keep the autistic and discard the Strenski? I find autistic Uncle Joe has way more “character” than Einsatzgruppen Hauptmann Strenski. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:21 PM By Clinton
So Santorum is being selfish for “bringing a doomed child into the world”? I have heard of a child brought into the world by a young mother, and soon after this child was born, it was predicted that his suffering would pierce his mother’s heart. And while this child was yet just an infant, a King demanded his death. And later, when this child had grown into adulthood, he was scorned for teaching the ways of God. He was insulted, spat upon and scourged. And ultimately he was put to death. Gee, what was wrong with Mary for bringing a “doomed child” into the world? And what’s wrong with that selfish Rick Santorum for loving and taking care of his daughter? After all, Catholics are just simpletons who have the silly notion that life is precious. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:26 PM By Martin
Why in the world is California Catholic Daily publishing this essay? It espouses a point of view so contrary to what I thought CCD stood for, implicitly calling – at the very least – for contraception. Maybe even abortion – and with a smugness bordering on sanctimony. PLEASE do a better vetting of your articles. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:26 PM By Martin
Why in the world is California Catholic Daily publishing this essay? It espouses a point of view so contrary to what I thought CCD stood for, implicitly calling – at the very least – for contraception. Maybe even abortion – and with a smugness bordering on sanctimony. PLEASE do a better vetting of your articles. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 2:21 PM By JLS
Martin, you’re advocating ostrichism for the Church? Isn’t that how the pedophile scandal manifested, because everyone buried their heads in the sand? |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 2:24 PM By JLS
Dick, definition of “progressivism” is “left wing” aka govt tyranny. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 2:25 PM By JLS
RWhite, you need to stand up and put a stop to it. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 4:50 PM By Maryanne Leonard
Inhuman. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 4:53 PM By cjo
The author’s name is not mentioned. Is the first name Adolf by any chance ?? And he’s a progressive ??? Remember Hitler’s party was the [progressive] National Socialist Party !!! |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 5:43 PM By k
Ivan Strenski is the author’s name. I thought the author was a woman when I posted before. I am not sure now that I understand that this is a sociologist with a specialty in religious studies what to think. Certainly not value-free. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:36 PM By JLS
I’m kind of now hoping Santorum gets on the ticket especially the top half … Is there anything anti-Catholic that he demonstrates? Big family, no scandalous kids. The bishops cabal is going to have a hard time holding their smiles up if they let him down. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 7:02 PM By Harry
The writer’s point is not about abortion. It’s about the odds of a woman in her late forties being at extremely high risk of having a health-impaired child. Sarah Palin’s son Trig was also a child conceived late in its mother’s life. Of course God will bless every child and its mother, but it’s just plain risky to conceive a child when a woman is deep beyond her normal fertility range. It is reckless conduct, pure and simple. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 7:15 PM By Ann Cinquina
How dare anyone criticize this brave family for obeying God’s law of the preservation of life and creatures he made in the image of Himself. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:00 PM By Nightingale
Progressives seem to hold to the utilitarian model of the value of a human life: that human life has value, not because it is made in the image of God, but based on what it gives back to society. If a person costs society more than he gives, he has negative value. This is a grievous error and misses the mark. I contend that WE, not the disabled, are the ones being tested, to see how we treat the weak in our society. Progressives utterly fail the test. |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:32 PM By Linda Maria
The cruel, shallow, evil person who wrote the above horrible, abusive story about the poor, sick daughter of Rick Santoruam, has concepts of life similar to Adolph Hitler! All life is SACRED!! These horrible people need a lawsuit and a HUGE fine– and no more Hitler-style evil from them!! The day I was born, the doctor told my Italian-American mother I was going blind. She replied– “Oh, I am so overjoyed with my new baby! I LOVE HER SO MUCH!! And her Guardian Angels are right there beside her, to protect her always, no matter what happens! I am so thrilled, and so overjoyed and thankful, that God has blessed me with a baby!!! You see, I had also two siblings who were born deaf, and my husband had an aunt who was Mongoloid! I love ALL babies, and don’t care what problems they have, God bless them!! We tried for six years to have a baby, and I am JUST THRILLED, AND SO THANKFUL TO GO!! My best friend couldn’t have any children, so they finally adopted!” That is exactly what my Mom said!! |
Posted Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:15 PM By Doc Mugwump
And California Catholic Daily has re-published this article why? Really disappointing guys… |
Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 12:28 AM By Kenneth M. Fisher
I wish the Santorum, in a weaker moment, hadn’t endorsed Arlen Specter. Had he not done that, he would have an even better chance at the Presidency. God bless, yours in Their Hearts, Kenneth M. Fisher |
Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 8:33 AM By gravey
Harry, You express a pedestrian point of view, failing to grasp the how the logic of the writer may be applied or expanded to include issues such as abortion. It is anything but pure and certainly not simple. |
Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 8:57 AM By John D
“…bringing a doomed child into the world?” What unmitigated arrogance. All are “doomed” without the saving power of Jesus Christ. And not just in this life. |
Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 11:32 AM By Catherine
I am disappointed that anyone would be critical of CCD for printing this story. I thought that all readers wanted to become saints. CCD is truly exposing the sunken level of ugliness of many who call themselves Catholic. This is a progressive Catholic’s view and as faithful Catholics this shows us that the Church militant has its work cut out for them. As the mother of a daughter with disabilities I truly value CCD for exposing the immense cruelty that families with handicapped children often face. I think we need to toughen up. There are many within our Church who call themselves progressive and their evil agendas are as ugly as this writer’s words. |
Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 12:07 PM By Catherine
Harry, God formed you in your mother’s womb. He knew from all eternity that on February 08, 2012, at 7:02 PM that you would write those very cold, unfeeling and reckless words. Yet Harry, God still allowed YOU to be given the gift of life. Are you actually saying that you think you are are more precious to God than sweet, innocent little Isabella Santorum? In her four short years on this earth she has already surpassed many. Isabella Santorum will never offend anyone by writing something so cold and foolish for the entire world to see. |
Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 2:31 PM By Talitha Kum
@Steven Phoenix, thank you for taking care of your brother. He is my brother in Christ. |
Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 2:37 PM By Harry
Catherine, What on earth are you talking about? I said not a word about sweet, innocent little Isabella. May God bless her and her mother. I just stated that women should be aware that babies born of elderly mothers are more susceptible to being born with birth defects.God decreed that there should be a time and a place for everything. It’s called a healthy fertility period that wanes with age, per God’s intelligent design. What’s so cruel and reckless about pointing out irrefutable statistics? |
Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 2:57 PM By T
“Satan never looks like Satan…” Fr George Rutler reminds us of this and that Satan uses celebrity and humanitarianism and mocks with humor. Thank you Juergensen for sharing the penning of this truly brilliant man. Thank goodness he (Fr G. Rutler ) is on our side. Spot on. I would have missed these edifying words if you had’t shared them here. Thanks! Where do I find more of FrGeorge )dragon slayer(Rutler’s writing? |
Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 4:41 PM By Robert Di Veroli
The writer of this hit piece needs to go on a retreat |
Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 4:43 PM By JLS
Harry, according to a University of Calif professor about 30 or 40 years ago, it is not the eggs of the aging woman but the deteriorating seed from the male due to less frequent cycling (try to read between the lines here) that is the cause of more frequent genetic problems. Do I know if this is fact? No. But the biological fact does not outweigh the will of God to not prohibit the creation of a life during sex. |
Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 4:55 PM By Abeca Christian
Catherine don’t get disappointed and try understanding the why? Other than that, I love your comments from Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 12:07 PM By Catherine. God bless you my friend and sister in Christ. : ) |
Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 6:00 PM By Juergensen
@ T: You can find Fr. George Rutler’s writings here: www[dot]oursaviournyc[dot]org/pastors-corner |
Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 6:07 PM By JLS
I have it on good authority that even severely handicapped/afflicted kids achieve great joy in groups taught and managed by adults who care for and love these kids. I once visited a dance put on for such kids, and the adults ran it so well it was amazing, simply beyond amazing. It was so joyfully amazing as to be beyond the reach of my sense of humor. It was one of those events where God opens up the Pearly Gates and gives us a momentary glimpse. I do not know how those women manage those severe cases of souls but they do wonders. Maybe the critics of mentally, physically and emotionally challenged people and their parents should try to honestly complain to the workers who bring great joy into those difficult lives and open the doors of those souls so God shines His Light out of them and into the darkness of our troubled world. In this case even the utilitarian view would have to cry “uncle” in that the joy of these messed up kids transitioned into the greater society. God, thus, proves once again that He can overcome any objection to His mercy and love. |
Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 7:48 PM By Catherine
Abeca, Thank you! :) |
Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 9:57 PM By Catherine
Harry, I have some questions for you regarding your Feb. 09, 2012 2:37 PM post. 1. Are you Catholic? 2. Do you attend Sunday Mass regularly? 3. If you are a practicing Catholic could you please let us know what Diocese you belong to because someone has surely not helped you to learn your Catholic faith. It also might just be *you* alone who thinks in cold and sterile terms of statistics instead of the Catholic term called trust. Harry, you must not realize this but you are really inferring that children with birth defects would be much better off if they were never born. You are telling God the author of life, “Look God, Mrs. Santorum is ignoring her old age and statistics. How selfish Mrs.Santorum is to allow You (GOD) to authorize another little soul who might statistically have a birth defect.” Harry, You say that God decreed that there is a time and a season for everything. Have you never been taught that God, WHO IS the author of all life, is also in charge of all of those due seasons and *purposes* to those seasons? God does not view things from statistics. Since God did authorize little Isabella’s life, it WAS the due season in the eyes of the Author of Life. This is why I want to know if you are even Catholic. Children born with birth defects are born with the same immortal soul that you have. Many women choose to abort their babies rather than give them life or give them up for adoption. Many women also say that they don’t want the baby to suffer in this world or go to a stranger because it is not the due season to have the responsibility of a baby. It was absolutely the due season for those unborn babies to be given the chance to live because God had already authorized each and every single one of their very brief lives, even if their mothers, fathers, society, doctors or your statistics choose to say differently. It is always better to have been given the glorious opportunity of a share in Eternal Life than to have never been given that chance at all. |
Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 10:33 PM By Abeca Christian
Harry I don’t entirely agree with your point of view. I have a friend who had her daughter at age 44 and she was born fine, I have a friend who gave birth to her child at 29 and was born with downs. When I was buying my daughter’s 15 year old party dress, a few years ago, the owner of the shop had a sister who was almost 15 years old, her mum was 50 when she had her, she said that she practices what the church teaches and did not use any form of birth control and when her menstrual cycle was leaving, she thought she was reaching menopause but ended up getting pregnant but didn’t know until the symptoms came, her daughter was born healthy except that the mum looks like her grandma because she had her so late of age, she said that she did not believe in abortion so she prayed that since God willed it for her to conceive at such a late age, she prayed for her baby’s health, and yes she was healthy. I understand there are higher risks as we age but if it happens, even if one practices NFP and still happen to get pregnant, then we must honor God’s will. |
Posted Thursday, February 09, 2012 11:00 PM By Catherine
JLS, That was an extremely sweet post at 6:07 PM.. Full of depth and Christ’s compassion. Steve Phoenix, God bless you for caring for your brother!. Perhaps Ivan Strenski should reflect on these words from 1 Corinthians 1:26-29 “So take care of your vocation brothers. For not many are wise according to the flesh, not many are powerful, not many are noble. But God has chosen the foolish of the world, so that he may confound the wise. And God has chosen the weak of the world so that he may confound the strong. And God has chosen the ignoble and contemptible of the world, those who are nothing, so that he may reduce to nothing those who are something, So then, nothing that is in the flesh shall glory in his sight” |
Posted Friday, February 10, 2012 7:05 AM By Anne T.
Dick, the United States Representative from New Jersey, Rep. Chris Smith, Republican, has done a great deal to help those children and people with autism. You might keep him in mind when you make political contributions. He is also a pro-life Catholic. |
Posted Friday, February 10, 2012 7:34 AM By Anne T.
Harry and Abeca, I was raised during the first fourteen years of my life by my grandparents. Although I missed out on some things, such as learning to ride a bicycle during my childrenhood, it was compensated by many other benefits. They were able to provide me with private music lessons, great books and an encyclopedia among other things. I did well in school because I had a lot of consistency in my life and was taught strong moral values because most people are more conservative as they get older on such things. Wisdom does, most often come with age. My grandparents saw their mistakes in raising their previous five children too, so although I was questioned at times by others as to why my parents were much older — they made me call them Mom and Dad — there were many advantages too. I remember fondly my grandfather dressing up as Santa Claus for Christmas and the fish he carved for me out of wood and put on a pole, so I could pretend to fish. Out of all my many toys, I think the fishing pole was my favorite. He was also a strong protector, too. My grandmother taught me to appreciate really good cooking and sewing and the value and importance of an education. Although, they had only gone to elementary school, they could read a newspaper and other magazines, and were in many ways self taught. By the way, my grandmother had my mother when she was in her mid or late forties. My mother was born quote, “normal”. My mother was married at fifteen and had me at sixteen, so having children too early can have its problems also. |
Posted Friday, February 10, 2012 6:49 PM By JLS
Catherine, sometimes the Lord nails one to the Cross and lets him or her see how He handles the situation of the effects of the Fall. I think some of those adults were volunteers … why would anyone volunteer for such a thing? The agape level of love? I don’t even know if any of them were Catholic. |
Posted Friday, February 10, 2012 10:58 PM By Abeca Christian
Anne T praise God you had such a lovely upbringing from loving grandparents. I wish that today there were more conservative grandparents. You’d be surprised how many elders, are the ones, encouraging and helping the liberal view point out of false compassion. |
Posted Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:04 PM By Abeca Christian
Vote for Santorum for President! He is the real definition of true change is! We need real change, VOTE FOR Santorum!!!!! God bless him and his lovely family! Don’t give up, lets pray and have hope, faith and vote for Santorum! |
Posted Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:01 PM By Zack B
The author writes, “I simply cannot fathom why it would be so important for a woman of Karen Santorum’s age—48 years old—to have risked conception, and ignored all the risk factors attendant in conception,” What he failed to point our is that Mrs. Santorum is a nurse who worked in neonatal intensive care. |
Posted Tuesday, February 14, 2012 8:33 PM By Abeca Christian
Way to go Zack! |
The recent news photos of Rick Santorum tenderly cradling his stricken daughter, Isabella, touched my heart. A victim of Trisomy 18 or Edwards syndrome, Isabella suffers from a far graver condition than the better-known Down syndrome, who often live into their teens and beyond—Trisomy 18 children rarely survive the first week. 
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