Interviews on April 10, 2024, with Roman, who is studying history, and Isaac, who is studying English composition, on the Library Lawn at California State University San Bernardino.

ROMAN
Do you consider yourself religious?
Roman: No. I believe in God. I would say it’s a complicated relationship. I hear about people always praying to Him, they say they hear Him, but I’ve never heard Him my entire time of going to Catholic school, doing this, learning that. I could tell you stuff about scripture that says He’s there, but I’ve never felt Him, I’ve never had that connection. I would say He’s real, but I’ve never had the connection where I can say He’s done something for me. People can say, “He did that for you in your life,” but it was my parents or someone who helped me, not Him.

Why do you believe in God?
Roman: I believe in God because there are things called Eucharistic miracles and they’re actually quite interesting. These miracles come out of nowhere. It’s insane. They have the Eucharist, the bread and the chalice, and no one will be there in the church and the bread will just start bleeding for no reason. They did a lot of DNA tests. The blood comes back as from a man from the Middle East and aged 30s when they do the blood tests.

Do you still consider yourself Catholic?
Roman: Kind of, but I haven’t been to church in – like I’ve done Masses at my school, but I haven’t actually gone to church in a while, like a year.

ISAAC
Do you consider yourself religious?
Isaac: Definitely, yes. I grew up in a very conservative Christian household. Obviously, I’ve had my own doubts and beliefs, but I’m on that path of trying to find a footing in that because I stray away from it a lot. But I consider myself a Christian. I go to church every Sunday.

Do you believe the Bible is true?
Isaac: Not everything. God gave us free will to think for ourselves and the Bible is written by man so I don’t think everything is true but I do think there is a lot that is true. I think the Ten Commandments are real and true and I try to follow them.

If someone asked you why you believe in God and if you think there’s evidence for the existence of God, what would you say?
Isaac: Definitely no evidence. I get frustrated about that a lot because you have to live off of blind faith. But based off of my own personal experiences, I would share those with people to say why I believe in God. I think everything in life is based off of experience.

Do you face anti-Christian bias at school here?
Isaac: It’s definitely difficult, because even in classes they’re very progressive, very liberal. Even times when I’ve spoken out in class about it, I’m the villain instantly. I had a class once, it was an English course, it was very philosophical and I love that type of conversation and discourse. They were talking about the Big Bang theory for some reason and the consensus was that it’s real and it’s true and if anybody doesn’t believe in it, they’re very ignorant. Basically, they were going down that path of the creation of existence and where it stemmed from. And I had the urge to speak out and say, “You know, that’s not proven. No matter how much science says that’s proven, it’s not. There’s no physical evidence of that.” I just said that people can have beliefs and not believe this as the truth. I said something along those lines. It sparked a debate in class, but the vibe I got, just scoffing, people thinking I’m stupid for having a belief. I think that’s pretty crazy how much the beliefs in the university system have just ingrained our minds to believe a certain way. So God gave us free will to think but then the universities are like, “No, you don’t have free will, you have to believe what we teach you.” So, yeah, it’s frustrating.

What do you think about abortion?
Isaac: That’s a struggle, too. That’s why I said I don’t believe everything in the Bible is true because I know there are things that are sensitive, like abortion. I think it’s unethical but I still think it should be legal. God gave us free will to do what we want. So I think people can choose to do whatever they want, but that doesn’t make it an ethical choice. When people debate about whether it’s evil or wrong, I don’t think it’s evil, but I do think it’s unethical. But that doesn’t take away from the fact that people should have that choice. Because if we don’t have that choice, then I feel like that’s also against God, because God gave us the choice to do what we want.

Are trans women actually women?
Isaac: That one’s difficult. Hmm. It’s difficult for me because there’s a binary obviously between male and female, but then I think gender is subjective. This is the most difficult one for me. It confuses me. I think because they were born not as a woman, biologically they’re not. But of course I’m going to respect that when they do transition, of course I’m going to call them that. But no, I don’t think they’re actually women.

Watch Roman explain why he believes in God.