The following comes from a July 18 Angelus article:
Two groups of pilgrims set out on long journeys on foot in the early morning hours on Sunday.
Their destination was the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels in downtown Los Angeles to join in a special Mass in Recognition of All Immigrants. The pilgrims, from different nationalities and backgrounds, challenged themselves to walk these long distances to raise awareness of the dire need of comprehensive immigration reform. They were attending the call to be merciful and compassionate in this Year of Mercy.
The pilgrims joined thousands of faithful at the cathedral, including those from the Archdiocese of Los Angeles and the Dioceses of San Bernardino and Orange who gathered for the special Mass presided by Archbishop José H. Gomez at the cathedral.
“We gather to pray for all of the immigrants and their families- past, present and future. We pray for immigration reform in our country, for our elected officials and for people all over the world that they open their hearts to the immigrants who come to their countries,” Archbishop Gomez said.
On Friday, July 15, a group from Lake Forest began a three-day, 50-mile walking pilgrimage to the Mass to unite the faithful in prayer and reflection for all those impacted by what they experience as a broken immigration system.
The pilgrimage, called “Siempre Adelante” (Always Forward), was dedicated to St. Junípero Serra –whose first feast day was July 1– as it follows part of the same route he traveled with fellow missionaries to found the first nine missions in California.
Before Mass, immigrants of diverse backgrounds shared testimonies including Emiliano Leonides, one of the leaders of the “Siempre Adelante” pilgrimage for a second consecutive year and catechist at Santiago de Compostela Church in Lake Forest.
“I’m here to ask God and all the people attending the Mass in Recognition of All Immigrants to not forget how much we suffer when pursuing our dreams and crossing the border,” said Leonides. “We are sending the message to those in power that there’s a need to change the laws for a comprehensive immigration reform and stop the separation of families,” he added.
“I am walking with them to raise awareness about the need for comprehensive immigration reform and to let people know what the Constitution states: that we are one under God. God loves all his children,” said Lily Nguyen-Ellis, also a parishioner of Santiago de Compostela Church, who joined the pilgrimage for the first time this year.
I sure hope Trump becomes President. He’ll fix the “broken immigration system” for sure: close the borders to all illegal entry and send those who entered illegally back to their countries of citizenship.
You don’t have a sovereign nation without secure borders, a common language nor a common culture. The Left is assaulting all three, and Church prelates are assisting in the destruction of the country with political stunts such as this deplorable Mass.
This Mass is an example of how the NO Mass can be misused. Shameful.
I want to hear all these demonstrators wail when we have a President Trump.
How much are you willing to spend personally to round up, adjudicate, and send back the 11 million? And what will you do with their families who are here legally? Leave their citizen children as legal orphans?
Come on Jon, don’t be obtuse. You know what Sawyer means.
Those who break the law do so with the understanding of the consequences. Break into someone’s house or steal someone’s property, go to jail. Break into someone’s country, face the risk of deportation, full stop. Anywhere else in the world, enter the country illegally, go to jail, probably for a long time, if you aren’t shot first. The toxic Obama administration created this problem and they have ignored the result, they extract millions of your dollars to support the results of their folly and Hillary vows to continue the destruction. Good luck, Liberals.
Rounding up is easy. No adjudication is necessary, Illegal=out. If their families are here legally, they can stay. If they are here illegally, they can take their kids with them, the idea of mere location should not grant automatic citizenship , the law should be changed, too many abuses are occurring. You are being assessed billions of dollars in supporting these illegals in this country, a few more dollars to solve the problem shouldn’t matter to you. Bleeding hearts and Socialist government allowed this to happen, suck it up.
“Rounding up is easy. No adjudication is necessary.” Of course adjudication is necessary, unless you don’t believe in the Constitution and its call for due process under law. It would cost tens of thousands of dollars in legal maneuvering and transportation to remove EACHof the millions who came here illegally. And again, they have had children. Maybe a million children who are citizens of the United States who would then be orphaned. What are you going to do with a million orphans? The orphan problem alone would cost a trillion dollars over time. Are you willing to see your taxes go up to take care of them?
Enact policies that will result in self-deportation, including making it illegal and impossible for people here illegally to work, to get housing, to drive, and so forth. They will go back to their countries of origin.
Minor children of illegal aliens can accompany their parents to their parents’ country of origin. They are their parents’ responsibility, not the country’s.
Excuse me, but children born in the United States are citizens regardless of the country of origin of their parents. You cannot deport a citizen.
While you want to “enact policies that will result in self-deportation”, you are asking that their jobs go unfilled. So the prices of the things they provide for you and your family will go up. Who is going to pick your tomatoes? Are you willing to pay $10 per pound for tomatoes?
YFC…
Suppose the government, in order to make everything fair and to show ” compassion” to the victims of it’s generous immigration non-policy, confiscated your house and bank account to provide for it’s guests while in our country? Sound fair? Social liberals shouldn’t mind, eh?
YFC, the so-called Anchor Baby Law was put in after the Civil War, probably mostly by Republicans, to protect African Americans and their children from being shipped back to Africa. It was not meant for every person who decides to come over illegally to misuse.
I’m with you. I sympathize with the plight of peoples across the world but enough is enough. The day every Ameeican Citizen has decent housing, a full stomach, and a secure life, is the day we should be looking to allow more immigration. We can’t even help our own people.
What is shameful Sawyer is your denigration of the sacrament of the Church by calling a Mass “deplorable.” You may disagree with the occasion in which the sacrament is offered, but for a Catholic to call this particular celebration, or any liturgical celebration, “deplorable” is shameful. Moreover, the fact that the Church does not necessarily prescribe to a derivative of Michael Savage’s slogan (as you just did) is an indication that the Church does NOT take her cues from talk show hosts like Savage but from God, and mercy.
Sorry, Jon. The NO Mass is DEPLORABLE. It honors man, not Jesus.
This is a lie. The Holy Mass is the Sacrifice of Jesus on Calvary re-presented. Jesus makes atonement for our sins and pleads for mankind with the Father. We become united with Him when we worthily receive Holy Communion. The Mass gives glory to the Lord and gives Him thanks. What is deplorable is the ignorance of Catholics concerning the Source and Summit of the Faith.
Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament is truly present and defamed in a Black Mass, jon. Would you say that we should endorse a Black Mass because Christ is there?
One is to treat sacred things in a sacred manner, jon. That is why using mass as a political tool is reprehensible. Much like using a sacred chalice to swill down beer is sacrilegious. Much like using the office of Bishop to commit sacrilege – that is profaning the sacred by using it for political agendas – is disordered and completely out of line.
jon, a Mass can be shameful and deplorable when it is misused, as this one was. Pope Francis’ stunt at the border was also deplorable and shameful.
The Catechism states that immigrants must respect the laws of the countries to which they immigrate. Did Archbishop Gomez preach about that? No. Has any leftist prelate ever said to illegal aliens, “You must respect America’s immigration laws.” No.
Leftist prelates are misusing the Church’s influence, institutions, sacraments and moral authority (or what remains of that) to promote leftist cultural nonsense, and that is an abuse of Holy Orders.
D’accord!
According to the Lateran Council, denigrating the sacraments of the Church is a heresy, Sawyer and Barbara Morris. Repent.
Repent yourself—you who called the TLM “ossified”, a dead fossil—Hypocrisy knowing no bounds. Hail, Novus Ordo.
Poor Justin K. THe fact remains that the rubrics in the TLM are indeed unchangeable, have ceased developing, and indeed ossified, which is why I am drawn to it as are many. There is more than one meaning to the word, O Justin K. I’ll pray for you. Now, the issue at hand here is the word “deplorable” which has just been used to denigrate the Mass. That is condemned. Repent.
The overwhelming English usage of the word (“ossified”) is pejorative—would calling your thinking “ossified” recommend it? It is an insult, jon knows it, and when caught, jon the sanctimonious’ efforts at glib deception know no bounds. He just “redefines” words, insults everyone’s intelligence.
And by the way, US major seminarian vocations ARE down, 4% from 2015 academic year-end to 2016(CARA Georgetown study, see info below by Campion). Another dissimulation, another glib deception.
Who is jon trying to fool, and why? Save your prayers, you need them for yourself.
Lololol!
Poor O Justin K. Why would I insult the form of the Mass that I go to on a regular basis, eh? The TLM is indeed ossified in its rubrics, and thank goodness for that! I used that word in a different article in order to say that the future of the Church is in the Ordinary Form, that the way the Ordinary Form can be salvaged is if it acquires the reverence inherent in the TLM (which has been preserved because of the ossification of its rubrics).
The denigration of the sacraments of the Church by calling it deplorable must be called out. It is condemned by the Lateran Council. People, you can complain about the occasion for its celebration, but not the Mass itself. For instance, write “deplorable use of the sacraments of the Church. BUT NOT, “deplorable Mass.” Otherwise you show yourselves to be anathema and uncharitable.
Sawyer, read the Don’s book. The wall, the closed border, kicking millions of people out of the country was only an opening gambit for a negotiator. The Don doesn’t believe that he can build a wall and is relinquishing that idea. He knows he can’t round up millions of people land split up millions of families, so he is walking that back too. Almost all of his ideas so far have been opening attention getting ploys to keep the media full of free advertising. Now, he may in fact have some good ideas, but he hasn’t made them public yet. So, we really don’t know what he stands for yet.
And Hillary Clinton stated for the record that, “Churches must be MADE to change their position on abortion.”
Quite the attention getting ploy, eh, Bob One.
I don’t like Hilary but it is a matter of your soul, because bearing false witness is a mortal sin.
She did not say that.
Breaking the law incurs proportionate punishment. Non-enforcement of our immigration laws and the promise of jobs has enticed many Mexicans and others to break our immigration laws. No, they should not be rewarded. Yes, they should be punished. However, given the fact of enticement, deportation (except for the felons) is a disproportionate punishment. Neither is it Christian to punish the children for the sins of their parents. I do, by the way, oppose amnesty. Rather, I would “regularize” them (not legalize them) and, from that day forward, enforce our immigration and employment laws strictly without exception. Paragraph 2241 of the Catechism enjoins immigrants to obey the laws of their host country. Illegal immigration is a sin.
Once again, with the help of Catholics, votes will go to Hillary — the most pro-abortion, anti-religious, pro Planned Parenthood and Margaret Sanger loving, candidate. I’m praying for you, Abp. Gomez, that you will someday repent in your promotion of the breaking of laws.
True words, Peggy. We Catholics have a poor record in picking leaders. First Obama, TWICE! and now Hillary Clinton, who you can always tell is lying when her mouth is moving. Are we just unusually stupid, or just slow learners?
I believe Catholics who vote for evil will have a lot to answer for. Hillary has never heard of an unborn baby she would not be willing to see aborted.
This issue is bigger than immigration and bishops are not doing their flocks any favor by ranking direct killing of the innocent below border control.
Border control is also a more complex issue. For while the Bishops seem to advocate for the wholesale influx of poor into the US. (For the purposes of filling coffers and building a solid DNC voting base) where is the concern over Mexico? Where is the vitriol against Mexico’s horrific border policies for those who seek to enter their country from Central and South America?
Where are the Bishops voices then? They want to take the population to keep “their” places while leaving Mexico to rot. Not to mention the dismissal of a young black population here in the States that is unemployed to upward of 50%.
SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!
“Someone in the crowd said to Him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.” But Jesus replied, “Man, who appointed Me judge or divider over you?” Lk 12:13-14
Wouldn’t it be wonderful if the illegal aliens would stay in their own country and work and fight to make their own country “great again?” That they won’t and don’t says a lot about their character.
Yes! Compassion or mercy does not allow someone to break into my house, steal my food and goods, sleep in my bed and plead poverty as the reason for committing these crimes. Nor does it permit my government to abdicate it’s responsibility to protect it’s borders and to guard it’s citizen’s safety. CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME, Liberals!
I have come to the conclusion that the American electorate does not care about character, witness Bill Clinton (An unabashed adulterer) and Barack Obama (A spineless liar with very dubious credentials) We simply do not care if our leaders are liars, crooks or adulterers, we only care about “whats’ in it for me.” Shame on us. Especially we Catholics.
AGREED!
Excellent posts, hosemonkey! Due to the overwhelming acceptance of mortal sin, it is now vogue to simply say, ” Oh, just choose the lesser of the two evils.” Where is the loyalty to God? Shame on Catholics, for placing a man in the White House who voted to not allow, the survivors of abortion, any medical assistance. That is barbaric, like a beheading. God IS merciful for sure but this cleverly plotted over-exaggeration of God’s Mercy is a modern day presumption against God’s justice. “My people perish for lack of knowledge.” The scourge of radical Islamic terrorism is for certain a chastisement for our sins. The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is being politically used by modern day money changers.
Barbara, yes it would be nice if all immigrants were legal. That is as it should be. But, we also need to ask ourselves why people keep coming to our country. Is it because they are lazy, or of poor character? I doubt it very much. They come here to escape poverty, ruthless dictators, corrupt governments, poor education systems, and general corruption., They walk mile and mile, and pay everything they have to get here. Then they take the most menial jobs to start to make a living for their families. They don’t take “our” jobs. They take those we don’t want until they can work themselves up in society. We have the money to provide a good life for our people. Our officials spend it for other things.
Totally disagree. People enter this country illegally because they CAN! How many illegals does Switzerland have to deal with every year? Not many, trust me. Why? Because they control their borders. Us? We used to do pretty well. We had operating work programs to allow aliens to work and then go home. But now Obama’s “catch and release” program has gifted us with 11 million new dependent so.
Switzerland doesn’t have borders with countries where the average wage is 1/4 or less what theirs is. If we want to stop illegal immigration from Mexico, we should do everything we can to build up the economy of Mexico, to encourage a vibrant middle class through living wages and upward mobility, What folks who support border walls and who decry the building of factories in Mexico forget is that by building those factories, we reduce the likelihood that its employees will seek employment across the border.
Mexico can go ahead and build factories. But not take our factories and jobs, YFC. They can build up their on industries…. with help from abroad.
So you think Mexico “Takes” YOUR factories? What, you woke up one morning and your factory in your back yard disappeared? Some Mexicans came and lifted it off your property and carted it off to Tijuana? Really?
Ann Malley, put yourself in the shoes of someone from Japan, or Germany. How would you feel if your auto companies – BMW, Toyota, etc. – built factories in the U.S. instead of in your own country? The reason Buick has a factory in China is because that is where the market is. Toyota has factories in the U.S. to serve the market. Our wages are higher yet they build here because that is where the market is. When Mexico builds up their industries with U.S. company money, they are getting help from abroad
I, I repeat I and many others used to work in the canneries over here, on the belt and in the lab, then worked our way up, or went on to something else at another job. One of our daughters worked on an assembly line in another factory, which is long gone, during the summer while she went to college. Those factories our now gone, gone, gone. People worked instead of living off well fare.
Wrong, YFC. I worked in those canneries on the belt and in the lab. My aunt worked in the office of one. My mother worked on a cannery belt and in meat packing factories — all gone. My uncle, who was part Caucasian and part Native American Indian retired from one of those canneries. One boss was a Native American Indian, and we got along just fine. Our oldest daughter while going to college worked during the summer in another toy factory that is long gone.
Bob One, that is because we used to have tariffs on imports, and now we do not. Also, some of our cars had too many defects during the seventies because some American workers were going into work stoned on drugs. An automobile factory worker — not an employer — told me when they had such problems. They cleaned up the work force, but the damage had been done.
YFC, when one Del Monte Cannery closed down here in California, and went to Mexico, it was reported in the local newspaper how the people were sadden because they were just like family since they had worked there so many years. They were Americans of many different ethnic groups, including Mexico. Yes, we need to help our neighbor Mexico, but we cannot help everyone, and if they do not believe in our laws and want Sharia, they should not be here. Period.
The uncle I mentioned in the post July 21 at 12:42 a.m. was by marriage.
Bob One, you make my heart bleed. Being poor doesn’t mean illegals could not fight to restore their own country.
An “immigration Mass”: Using the Mass as a political rally.
” Fr. Richard G. Cipolla, 7/14/16: “The heart of the ideology driving the post-Conciliar reform of the liturgical books is the destruction of the Traditional understanding of the Mass as a sacrifice, namely, the re-presentation of the Sacrifice of Calvary, the offering of the Son to the Father. Without the Roman Canon, which the reformers tried to get rid of entirely, that the Mass is a sacrifice, is not evident in the three new Eucharistic prayers. What is at stake in the insistence on versus populum is the very nature of the Mass. What most Catholics believe today is that the Mass is a community meal and the priest’s job is to say the words that change the bread…
…and wine to the Body and Blood of Christ for the purpose of Holy Communion. The Mass is for them. The priest facing the people engenders this understanding quite readily and enforces a heavily horizontal experience of the Mass. The almost universal practice of Communion in the hand standing in a line as if waiting for ham in a deli is the result of a deliberate repression of Communion on the tongue kneeling and telling the people that standing in the hand is the only way to receive Holy Communion after Vatican II. All nonsense. All ideology.” –“The Bitter and Noxious Fruits of Ideology”
Now, would this use of transitory, political ideology as the main message of a “Mass” encourage a man to join the New Church priesthood?
Probably why US vocations (yes, jon, the prelate, was dead wrong again–no surprise there) are down, according to a new May 2016 CARA Georgetown U. study:
With regard to major seminarians (theology students) in US dioceses, there was a 4% drop in ’15-16 academic year compared to the prior year: 3520 total, compared to ’14-15 (3650 students).
https://cara.georgetown.edu/Overview201516.pdf
Actual US diocesan priestly ordination totals for the last year given, 2015, were 515; compare that to 1965, when the number ordained was nearly 1000, and the US CC was about 48.5 million (in 2015,…
US Catholic population was about 81.5 million, a number that includes probably children. Shouldn’t this be called “the Francis Effect”? No one knows what to stand for anymore—but politics, immigration rallys as liturgy, that’s all good.
There is no vocation “boom” in the N.O. There is no ordination “boom” in the N.O. Only a long retreating groan, and panicked screams by those who try to cover up the continuing hemmorage of the US Catholic Church. Same leadership, same cheerleaders, same outcome.
Well, the story is more complicated than that. It is true that the numbers of nuns and religious brothers is devastating. Priest numbers are down, but deacon numbers are way up, and the total number of ordained men is essentially flat over the decades since Vatican II. The numbers of lay ministers has grown exponentially. Net-net, if you exclude nuns and brothers engaged in teaching or hospital work, the number of parish ministers is probably higher than ever. Trouble comes in when you look at mass attendance and baptisms, which weren’t affected so much by the NO as they were by the priest sex abuse scandal. https://cara.georgetown.edu/frequently-requested-church-statistics/
1) “Priest numbers are down, but deacon numbers are way up..” Yes, deacons are the “priest-replacement program” for the New Church.
2) ” the total number of ordained men is essentially flat over the decades since Vatican II..” Well, if having actually less ordained for 81 million Catholics in 2015 than the USCC had in 1965 for about 48.5 million, about 60% of the present population.
3) “The numbers of lay ministers has grown exponentially.” = “priest-replacement program B”.
A New Church, a better Church, a shrinking Church. It’s been heard before.
it has been reported that mexico is , in most areas , in a state of chaos. when haiti became chaotic, UN troops were imposed on it to bring it under control and, i believe, it is still under UN military policing . mexico would probably qualify for this solution, in border and drug-trafficking areas, were it not so prohibitively expensive. to quell haitian illegal immigration, the US set up camp Chrome to placed captured illegals and to allow their long detention process to act as a deterrent to others back home. all immigrants from suffering countries need our prayers.
Mexico is a nation Rich in Natural Resources with a largely industrious population who tend to have strong family values.
However – the endemic pervasive Corruption (‘La Mordida’ – The Bite, aka Suborno) has enriched a few, who use migration as a safety valve to send money to families impoverished by this corrupt system.
The treatment of other ‘Hispanics’ (Central America…) and ‘Indians’ (not the sub-contingent type Columbus mistook) is far worse than in America, and Foreigners are not allowed to own land in Mexico – whereas foreigners can buy as much of the USA as they want.
The Immigration issue cannot be separated from the Corruption it serves to prop up, and the USA is as complicit as anyone in the mess.
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