The following comes from an October 15 story on LifeSiteNews.com.
Four prominent pro-abortion groups appear to be anticipating their next public relations embarrassment, as officials with the groups told The Huffington Post they believe the pro-life organization Live Action has concluded another undercover investigation into potentially illegal activities.
Officials say a Live Action employee, posing as a potential donor, met with teams at the Planned Parenthood Action Fund, NARAL Pro-Choice America, EMILY’s List, and Priorities USA.
The woman – who posed as “Wendy Reed,” an abortion clinic owner from Malibu – asked how closely they coordinate their political efforts with the Obama campaign, a possible violation of campaign laws. She also asked a number of questions about whether President Obama would repeal the Hyde Amendment or support partial birth abortion.
At a subsequent meeting Planned Parenthood instructed their security guard to demand ID and captured a low-grade version of an image of the alleged Live Action investigator on a security camera.
The ID revealed that Reed was actually a woman who had posted a comment under her own name on the Healthcare.gov Facebook page opposing the Obama administration’s HHS birth control mandate.
Priorities USA has been accused of illegally cooperating with the Obama re-election campaign as recently as August. The organization produced an ad telling the story of Joe Soptic, who claimed falsely that Mitt Romney’s business practices resulted in his wife ultimately dying of cancer. Although Obama for America (OfA) spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter denied knowledge of the story, she hosted a conference call with Soptic in May….
In a statement e-mailed to [pro-life nurse Jill ] Stanek, Lila Rose, the head of Live Action, said, “If these pro-abortion groups were as ‘on to us’ as they claim, they should have filmed the encounters themselves. And if Planned Parenthood and their pro-abortion allies stand by everything they said, they should proudly release the tapes and educate the public.”
Planned Parenthood has attempted to punish the alleged Live Action investigator by asking California Attorney General Kamala Harris to investigate a fake website that was listed on the woman’s fake business card. “If this medical website is a hoax and is falsely holding out services to women in need, it should be immediately taken down and the persons responsible for the site should be held accountable,” the October 11 letter stated.
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Interesting news bits, but no coherency to the story: Should probably be three times as long to explain well, or three separate stories maybe.
JLS, I agree that the editing could have been better. I clicked the link and read the entire story on LifeSiteNews.
Evil like that of OBAMA and his appointed Administration will say or do anything to retain power.
Satan is the father of lies.
If Planned Parenthood employees all operated within the law, they should welcome all investigations. – Food for thought.
This brings up one of the great theological questions which I wonder what people think of, “Is it not evil to lie (a violation of the 8th Commandment) so that some good may come from it?” Or is lying always wrong? It’s the old, ‘If the Nazis came to your door looking for someone, is it right or wrong to lie and say that the person is not there?’
The Commandment does not say “lie”, it says bear false witness against one’s neighbor.
jp this is what scares me about certain illogical views that some Catholics embrace…what you just posted makes me angry because you are so incorrect! Nothing personal but I just hate that reasoning…….Folks abortion is the greatest evil on all innocent unborn human life and if it wasn’t for this modern day creativity to expose it for what it is, we would hardly have a case against it’s great evils. I’m disgusted that some rigid Catholics would make such comments and use holy scripture against this.
I applaud Lila Rose for all the risks she takes just so she can expose what the enemy is doing to our most innocent children and especially to the most women it has deceived into committing murder on it’s children!
Live Action is doing wonderful and courageous work; Lila Rose is truly living the gospel with her devotion to saving lives and uncovering evil. One hopes that the USCCB would somehow honor Lila and others for their bravery and success. Instead, Live Action is attacked, and will be attacked, by all available legal means (and likely some not so legal), to make them stop telling the truth. Satan is alive in NARAL, Emily’s List, and other abortion groups — good bishops, make them stop! Obama is not a nice man (and Romney is so foolish to treat him like someone that just likes his coffee differently). Whether he is actively complicit in evil, or merely captive to it, is known only by God. But make no mistake, Obama and his Administration are enablers of an unimaginable human disaster. Perhaps America does not deserve its many blessings and gifts, if its people cannot rise up and throw off this sin. It will not be easy to win, or to administer even after winning. Like people in the Catholic Church, American people know little of the moral basis of their own country, of its struggles and of the role that God has played here. The treatment of Live Action is only a taste of what is in store for believers that actually live their faith.
God bless Lila Rose! I admire her in Christ and I pray that many young ladies will look up to her. Lila Rose you sure honor well your parents good name.
I’m sure we’ll hear about his all over the MSM . . .
JLS is entirely correct (for once). Bearing false witness is a very specific type of lie, thus the commandment does not include all lies. Obviously, lying to the Nazi’s to protect against unjust torture of jews would be perfectly moral.
good point JonJ!
Jon J good point, I like your example of the Nazi’s!
A good intention (for example, that of helping one’s neighbor) does not make behavior that is instrinsically disordered, such as lying and calumny, good or just. The end does not justify the means….The circumstances,, including the consequences, are secondary elements of a moral act. They contribute to increasing or diminishing the moral goodness or evil of human acts. They can also diminish or increase the agent’s responsibility (such as acting out of a fear of death). Circumstances of themselves cannot change the moral quality of acts themselves; they can make neither good not right an anction that is in itself evil. CCC 1753-1754 It is therefore an error to judge the morality of human acts by considering only the intention that inspires them or the circumstances (environment, social pressure, duress or emergency, etc) which supply their context. There are acts which, in and of themselves, independently of circumstances and intentions, are always gravely illicit by reason of their object; such as blasphemy and perjury, murder and adultery. One may not do evil so that good may result from it. CCC 1756
The eighth commandment forbids misrepresenting the truth in our relations with others…Offenses against the truth express by word or deed a refusal to commit oneself to moral uprightness; they are fundamental infidelities to God and, in this sense, they undermine the foundations of the covenent. 2684
k, I don’t care how many CCC quotes you make, anyone who thinks lying to nazi’s about whether you have any jews in the household is somehow “intrinsically disordered” has a completely wacky sense of morality. Though I do think there are acts that are intrinsically immoral, such as torturing another human being in order to elicit confession to a suspected crime, I do not believe lying to nazi’s who had a clear intent to torment and kill a particular group without cause is in any way disordered. In fact, I would go so far as to say that telling the truth to nazi’s in order to facilitate their evil may very well have been a sin.
“Douay-Rheims Bible” and “CCC2ndEd” and “Entire Magisterium”: There now, I’ve quoted the fullness of Catholic doctrine. So, k, what do you have to say to that?
IN the book of Judith, Apocrypha, second canon, not in the protestant bible, so we Catholics should know better. tells of Judith:
Judith was a beautiful widow who fasted all the time (except on the sabbath) and wore haircloth on her loins.
And she wore haircloth upon her loins, and fasted all the days of her life, except the sabbaths, and new moons, and the feasts of the house of Israel. And she was exceedingly beautiful. Judith 8:6-7
She asked God to help her kill her enemies the way he helped Simeon slaughter the newly circumcised Hivites in the Dinah/Shechem love story massacre. She lied to the enemy and seduced the enemy and cut his head while he was drunken sleep. And she was praised for doing so, God enabled her to do it. He made her more beautiful and appealing as an example.
Catholics contain the beautiful gift of the wholeness of the truth but when Catholics get sooo rigid and do not learn their faith as a whole, which there are many teachings that may be endless or many mysteries but it is up the Holy Ghost to reveal to us personally…we must stop this indifference! Catholics go back to studying your bibles, learn of the rich history in our faith, not to excuse lying, but this lying you accuse Lila Rose of is not in line within reason! It is not in the malice content in which many self righteous Catholics or even Christians have become so rigid about. Such hypocrisy angers me!
My post was a followup to JonJ’s. It was not about Lila Rose or PP.
Abeca Christian, I don’t think God helped Simeon slaughter the newly circumcised Hivites in the Dinah/Shechem love story massacre. Perhaps those murdered Hivites can be compared to the children who are destroyed in abortions. They surely had a right to life also.
Mark no comparison, this is irreverent to what you posted on as example to the unborn, if I had time to teach you some “bible 101” on here I would but I have been super busy and takes a lot of my time, plus knowing your record on here of people trying to enlighten you, there have been repetitive attempts on several topics, how will this be different.
Not to be uncharitable with you bud but you neglect to understand God’s hands on here…..and I don’t know if trying to explain it to you will even help…we all know ( the regulars who have had that privilege to blog here with you in the past) how you misinterpret Sodom and Gomorrah.
We all know that in those times, people actually protected the virginity of their women. Men had honor and when dishonor was committed, they consider that a very high crime. Unlike today, back then there were consequences to the bad action of any man raping their woman.
We need to keep the death penalty in place, when someone rapes or sodomizes a child, there needs to be huge consequences to this, especially in today’s times, with child pornography running ramped and more people are being victimized, murdered and raped…we need to protect society from those who, as study’s show, are a great danger to society especially innocent women and children! The difference here is that Planned Parenthood is protected by laws, they have desensitized and made it acceptable to kill the unborn in the womb by selling the lie that it is not human yet or whatever lie they have cooked up, they sold the lie and have gained so much power. It is an organized with no integrity at all, no respect to life what so ever. They have fooled many into believing that a woman has the choice, it’s her body but neglect the life already conceived.
The abortion of the unborn can not be compared to the death penalty of a hard cord criminal, a child is innocent and helpless, but the hard core predator is completely opposite of that innocence!
You, think it is irreverent, Abeca Christian? I think it is irreverent to think that God would help Jacob’s sons murder men who had decided to join the Jewish covenant to God. Jacob was angered by what his sons had done. I don’t misinterpret Sodom and Gomorrah, I have read Genesis and also went to Bible study and what I heard is different from the theology of some posters here on that story. Abeca Christian, you say that we need to keep the death penalty in place, so are you saying that you are not totally pro-life but pro-life with reservations? Many bishops, priests and nuns have spoken out against the death penalty. Are you saying that you disagree with our Church leaders who speak out against the death penalty?
PA, when God orders the death of someone, it is not murder as you claim. Also, the explanation why you do not understand that God destroyed Sodom because all its inhabitants were practicing homosexual perverts is pointed out by St Paul in Romans, which is that sodomy “sears the conscience” … sodomy includes those who advocate it or imagine it. So even if you do not practice physical sodomy, you advocate it and since you claim that you were born with it, then you imagine yourself sodomizing: This sears the conscience and is why homosexuals cannot see their guilt or their sin … because they have lost part, and an important part, of their conscience.
PA, Church leaders who buy and sell political issues are not to be respected, because they are not holy, but have divorced themselves from holiness. The death penalty is ok by Catholic doctrine, as has been quoted and pointed out to you many many times.
WOW I’m not falling for this trap again Mark from PA, we have discussed the death penalty before on here in very detailed form, even quoted church docs that approve it, I recall you even being part of those threads by adding your input so please go back and read them and perhaps you will find my answer there….whew…
The right to life, PA, is not determined by man but by God, and God has indeed ordained the deaths of many of His enemies. You claim to teach children the Catholic faith, but you do not even know it yourself. All you ever say is that nobody should protect themselves or keep from sin; you even redefine what the Church teaches as sin in such a way as to revise dogma, doctrine, Scripture and the works of the Saints.
JLS is correct, our Precious God is an awesome God, He is just, I recall reading in holy scripture His order of war.
JLS, you don’t know me and you don’t know what I imagine. Your post of 6:55 PM is presumptuous and rude. I am surprised that the moderators let it through.
Hey, hold on here, PA. Aren’t you always telling everyone that you know what most Catholics believe and practice? So, are you now claiming that you have a monopoly on knowing other people? You can sure dish it out but you can’t take it.
I just heard a bishop’s letter part of which likened all death to homicide … guess these modernist effeminist bishops cannot stand it that God has opinions different from theirs. They are more like Cain than like Abel.
PA don’t please the victim card here, JLS only stated what he remembers from your past comments, your very own words painted that picture of you. Yes non of us here know you but we can discern some things by what you post. Sorry but that is the truth.
take the please off and add play, I meant to say don’t play the victim card.
Abeca, that Bible account is one of the more poignant ones, and even provides what is sometimes called an archtype for Blessed Mary Ever Virgin, Queen of Heaven. She shall smite the head of the serpent, and Judith smote (off) the head of one of the followers of the serpent.
Yes you are correct JLS : )
What these marxist bishops are aiming for is fantasy incarnate … not exactly the most holy of enterprises. The only rational explanation for their nonsense about eliminating murder, death penalty and war is to disarm people and convince them that the bad guys are the victims. In one breath they claim that murder and the death penalty are the same thing, that the death penalty is homicide … They have taken leave of their senses … God has a track record of dealing death blows to people … as we find in the Magisterium, and yet these bishops call it murder and homicide!!! One of the things Bl John Paul II said about the death penalty is that it should only be done when necessary to protect the public. The bishops spin this into lala land. The death penalty executions remind all men that each of us cannot say for sure when he will die, and that all of us need to be ready at any time … Jesus tells us that the Judgment could come in the blink of an eye. The death penalty reminds us that sin has its price. Do these rose colored glasses battalions of bishops actually believe that God will not send many souls to Hell, even though the Church always has taught that more shall go to Hell than to Heaven? But the sad thing is that unholy bishops lead countless souls into their extreme errors.
JLS your comments are right on and I especially like this and I quote from JLS “The death penalty reminds us that sin has its price”. I agree. .
Again JLS, your argument has committed the logical fallacy called “straw-man.” It is also riddled with inconsistencies.
A) You say that bishops call criminals “vicitms” and that the death penalty is homicide. WRONG! Nowhere have the bishops said this. I challenge you therefore to quote your source.
B) JP2 never said that the death penalty should only be used when necessary to protect the public. On the contrary, the Blessed JP2 called the death penalty “cruel and unnecessary.” He called for its abolition. Stop misquoting the late Holy Father !
C) Your internal inconsistency is saying that the death penalty reminds us that we do not know when we die. Excuse me, but do you see your inconsistency there? If you don´t, no one can help you.
Again, the teaching of the Blessed John Paul II, of Pope Benedict, and all the bishops of the Universal Church is that the death penalty for our time must be eliminated. Listen to the living Magisterium. Respect life!
JLS don’t bother replying to jon….its a waste of time. I enjoy your input…So lets move on to other topics or continue with this wonderful lila rose one!
Planned Parenthood is slaughtering innocent children daily, killing them (perhaps another General Holofernes as in the book of Judith). Planned Parenthood is presented in worldly wisdom and with great political correctness, as a great defender of woman causes, great health care for woman especially ones that need government assistance paid with tax payers money, many have forgotten that Planned Parenthood’s founder was racist. Obama forgets his color and was deceived to stand by Planned Parenthood, so many blacks fell for the lie as well.
God almighty is GREAT! How little faith many have In HIS Righteousness!
The reality is that many Catholics know facts about abortion, they know the truth about Planned Parenthood because they have heard something about them from someone faithful, they do, but still feel that they can not tell another woman what to do with her body. So that in turn tells us (by their actions) that they don’t care for the innocent life. Just this past weekend, we were at a BBQ, one female was discussing and pushing recycling and scolded the children for not placing cans in the recycling bin, I also said ” I wish that the same efforts we put into recycling, that we would put into telling others what actually happens to the unborn when they are being murdered.” There was silence in the room and I heard a voice said ” I can’t fret over what I can’t control.”
If we unite we can stop this killing of the unborn with better resources and teachings on a chaste lifestyle etc etc…..I guess some have given up because the world is against those those few who do stand up…while there are more who disagree with abortion but for them having to deal with confrontations is not worth it for them.