The following comes from a Nov. 26 story on Catholic News Agency.
Legal expert Alan Sears said that the push for marriage redefinition in the U.S. has provided a platform for the issue at large and that Pope Francis’ visit in 2015 could mark a shift in the contentious debate.
“This could be a turning point in the struggle for marriage,” he told CNA Nov. 26. “The Holy Father has the opportunity to speak in the USA, to step into the middle of this with the message of love, with a message of hope to clarify and help people to understand the beauty of God’s design.”
Sears serves as president of the international legal group Alliance Defending Freedom, which specializes in the protection of religious liberty worldwide. He was recently in Rome for the Nov. 17-19 colloquium on the complementarity of man and woman in marriage that was attended by Pope Francis.
Also referred to as the “Humanum” conference, the gathering was sponsored by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, in collaboration with the Pontifical Council for the Family, the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue, and the Pontifical Council for the Promotion of Christian Unity.
The meeting came amid the ongoing push for the legalization of same-sex “marriage” in the U.S. – a contentious issue that’s has left many Catholics divided. Sears believes many people today are deeply confused about the true nature of marriage and unaware of the security it provides to both individual families and society at large.
Pope Francis’ to Philadelphia for next year’s World Meeting of Families could likely be just as impactful as that of St. John Paul II on the pro-life movement when he came to Denver, Colo. in 1993 for World Youth Day, he said.
“One of the most incredible speeches was that which (John Paul) gave on the culture of life,” Sears recalled. It “was a turning-point moment” for the many in the pro-life movement whose work had largely been “pushed to the way-side” by secular press and those advocating abortion. Through his speech St. John Paul II sparked a new dimension of pro-life work that was founded on God’s plan for humanity and the joy that life brings, he reflected.
And what we are seeing now is an “incredible turn of public opinion,” so much so that “the pro-life movement is not too far away from a tipping point for victory.”
In this context, the visit of Pope Francis – at a time when the debate on marriage is so fierce – could be the opportunity those fighting for traditional marriage have been waiting for, Sears observed….
To read the original story, click here.
I am rereading the book by Pope John Paul II: “Crossing the Threshold of Hope”. It is difficult to compare anyone with JP2, a true Saint and man who changed the world.
AWE Saint JP2…..the pope of my youth. We miss him and miss Emeritus Pope Benedict as well…
I miss Pope Benedict, too, Abeca. How can we have two popes? I just read this today and am including it for those who believe it was the moving of the Holy Spirit last year.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/11248263/English-cardinal-Cormac-Murphy-OConnor-lobbied-for-Pope.html
I have a friend who has been a faithful Catholic all her life. She said she will remain faithful, but she asked me the other day, (with tears in her eyes)…” How can we have two popes?” “This simply isn’t right”
PS A coup comes to mind…whatever happened to the Cardinals’ papers on Vatican leaks, etc. that were given to Pope Francis when he took over? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/21/pope-retired-amid-gay-bishop-blackmail-inquiry
I think the Synod business is a smokescreen. It’s not like all this skullduggery isn’t possible, given the entrenched nature of so many Vatican insiders who don’t seem to have any sort of accountability or scruples.
Dana, I think Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI was just tired and felt it was time to go. After all, when St. John Paul II was in the final stages of his life, I am sure it was Cardinal Radzinger who directed and kept the ship afloat for the most part. I can sympathize, as after twenty-seven and one-half years at my job, I felt it was time to go and took early retirement. I no longer had the patience to do what I was doing and felt those I was there to help deserved better and my own family needed me..
And it was done after much prayer.
What I don’t understand is why Pope Benedict could not have had a faithful cardinal in a role like he played for St. Pope John Paul II? Cd Burke or Cd. Muller for instance. His mind is still sharp. He could have had a restful papacy perhaps as a figurehead, but still at the helm.
Dana pray the rosary daily and reflect on Christ’s promises in holy scriptures from the new testament. Prayer and fasting have and continue to be my consolation because its my time alone with Jesus. Men may disappointment us but Christ and His faithful church, His truths never do.
Do you work out? Or at least jog or exercise? Notice when you workout, you have goals of some sort of discipline. Well the more prayerful we are, fasting etc the more we build spiritual muscle. Yes often we are weak because we are sinners. But spiritual muscle building helps us through adversity, times where and when our faith is tested. Today we are faced with valid concerns, but I am grateful for my faith, its what keeps us going, enduring. God bless you. PAX CHRISTI
You are so right, Abeca, faith is what we are. It’s lovely to have you back and in such good form. Thank you so much for your prayers! I think I’m probably dealing with the stages of anger, and I’m passing from shock and disbelief from the changes in the papacy to anger and frustration. This too shall pass…the grief and resignation will pass as well. We are called to focus on eternal things “for everything in this world passeth away”. I ‘m sorry for lashing out here and I ask you my brothers and sisters to bear with me. Remember that I came from the crumbling foundations of the Presb. Church, coupled with the inroads on our fragile social system, our Constitution and goodness in general, I feel neglectful to my duty if I don’t speak out. ( yeah, I know, it really helps. Ha). I read something last night that helped me to work on the negative aspects of anger…
“The man of impure speech is a person whose lips are but an opening and a supply pipe which hell uses to vomit its impurities upon the earth.”
— Saint John Vianney
Dana, everything the Pope is doing is of the Lord.
People who do not understand the Lord and the Church do not understand.
I am sure that Pope Emeritus Benedict is pleased with him.
His devotion to the Blessed Mother is great. His knowledge of the Church is great.
The Lord separated the light from the darkness, the waters above the heavens from the waters below the heavens, the waters from the dry land, He brings a sword. His word is a double edged sword. He separates the sheep from the goats.
Please pray on these things and don’t read anything except the Bible, the catechism, saints writings, papal writings and the news from the Vatican until you are in a better place. Steep yourself in faithfulness only. Stay away from bloggers and vloggers.
https://www.news.va/en
This Pope is doing nothing that the last 2 haven’t done. He just gets different press. Trust God.
Dana dear, you are not alone. My husband who is a convert, has his moments too but he never vents them, he offers them up and bites his tongue. I ask him why doesn’t he just vent, we are only human. He said I don’t want to cause scandal just because of my insecurities. He thinks before he speaks. He is right, I noticed that he doesn’t keep up with media gossip because they only feed more anger into anyone who holds to morals and most of the time, its not always the truth that they represent. Just think, the Pope is on the other side of the world. How are we to know, especially with language barriers. What keeps us humble is praying for our Pope often. We take it to God, the Pope is His son, and since our Lord is loving and just, He will correct His own. Just because its not happening when we want it, doesn’t mean its not happening. I think that sometimes we have people in our lives who are less what we expect out of a Church example, sometimes it is to humble the most prideful who are very self righteous and don’t realize it. But that is only my two cents, just my thoughts, I suggest you just pray for God’s answers. He knows best. Read the CCC, scriptures and what the saints say. That should help us discern better and to remain faithful with the knowledge that people are human and they will let us down. Just like they let down Jesus when He was with us in the flesh.
Thank you Dana. You are a good soul. I don’t plan to visit as often like I use to. Thank you for your true charity. Be a saint and endure these times. Saints are human too. They were not perfect but they had the zeal to want to please God. Just like you do. Its reasonable of you to grief when you feel God is offended. You are not alone. Pray the rosary, read holy scriptures and read the CCC. Do you have movies of the saints? There are some wonderful ones that are very uplifting because they are well made. God bless you more!
Dana, “His mind is still sharp. He could have had a restful papacy perhaps as a figurehead, but still at the helm.” REGARDLESS of whether you like Benedict or not, he has resigned. The idea of a pope living after resignation is new to the modern church, but I desperately plead with you, that going forward, our Church cannot stand if there are people who still believe the prior pope speaks to them in obedience. Please study the history of the dueling papacies, and see that nothing good comes of it, even if we have, as we do now, a clear linear line of succession. Papal resignations will become more common as people live longer but if that results in divided papal rule, trust me, our Church will suffer. Ratzinger is no longer pope, has no teaching authority in the Church beyond that of any local theologian, and he is and should live as a cloistered monk separated forever from the world.
Thanks YFC…believe me I’m trying. Thanks for your prayers.
Dana, Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI and Pope Francis did collaborate on Pope Francis’s first encyclical. Also Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI does still give lectures on theology and so forth, but it seems at his own pace in between a lot of time for prayer and meditation. Perhaps he is writing too. He has an excellent understanding of the history of the liturgy.
Pope Francis is more the extrovert and does well among crowds, and Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI is more the scholar and musician, and most likely more introverted, Pope Francis was a master chemist and taught chemistry from what I have read, I am sure they learn from each other. There is only one pope now, though, as should be.
Anne T thank you for your humility and charitable posts. They are very refreshing to read and praise God for good Catholics like you.
We DON’T have two popes!!!!!
I didn’t mean to upset you Anon.but it’s been perhaps my misconception that becoming pope is not unlike becoming a monarch in that one dies with one’s boots on, so to speak, and to leave one’s duty early involves an abdication of some sort. Apparently the common parlance is that a pope’s role is more that of being a CEO of a large corporation and he may retire to the ranks as though he were never Christ’s successor to Peter. I really struggle to grasp this, especially with the recent example of St.john Paul II. I was pondering this last night and the story of the woman at the well came to mind where’s the woman said to him, “Sir, give me this water so that I won’t get thirsty and have to keep coming here to draw water.” He told her, “Go, call your husband and come back.”
I have no husband,” she replied. Jesus said to her, “You are right when you say you have no husband. The fact is, you have had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband. What you have just said is quite true.” Anonymous tells me there are not two popes. I really am trying to make sense of all this but aren’t there vows involved? Isn’t there a tradition of continuity? How does one retire from such a calling? You mean the Protestants have it right when they say the pope is just like other men and doesn’t have the God given authority we Catholcs claim?
Surely you can see that there is a middle ground between having two popes and having no pope. Just as individual BIshops can resign and retire, as for example several Archbishops of San Francisco now live in retirement, so too the Bishop of Rome can retire. Archbishop John Quinn was Bishop when I arrived in Sf, but has lived peacefully in retirement for, what, 20 years. Archbishop Cordileone surely does not look over his shoulder to see what Quinn has to say. So too the Bishop of Rome.
Dana, I think you are comparing the Pope to secular things and thus not comprehending.
He is not a King. Jesus is the King.
He is not in any way a CEO. That is a gross secularization of the Papacy.
It is rare and it was disconcerting to have a Pope resign. Pope Benedict XVI is now the Pope Emeritus (former Pope). He is no longer Pope nor does he try to be. He is still a priest.
Pope Francis is the Pope. All that Pope Benedict said and wrote as Pope is still valid. I think if you look at Pope Francis, he is very strong in his condemnation of sin and of hypocrisy.
The secular media has distorted some of the things that Pope Francis has said to try to use him for their own agenda. (Think about one of the most controversial posters here who said it does not matter if what you say is true. If you say it with conviction and authority, people will believe you and you will influence people. This is exactly what the press is doing with Pope Francis.) It is our job as Catholics to not fall for this. You are not going to get the truth from the secular media. Pope Francis is popular with faithful Catholics. There are some fringe Catholics who are very unhappy because they want the Pope to do their will.
Typically the Pope does ‘die with his boots on’, Dana. That is an excellent metaphor. Also, there is nothing wrong with your questioning. Our Lord would have never said, “By their fruits you shall know them,” if we were to merely shut our eyes and go forth blindly. He also wouldn’t have given us the instruction to read the signs of the times or warn us of ‘blind’ guides. (The Church is, after all, the Bride of Christ and will tread the same way of the passion as He did. With those closest to Her attempting to crucify Her for love of position and power, opting for a secular kingdom instead of that which requires sacrifice.)
Anonymous writes that Pope Francis is popular with faithful Catholics. This is misleading as many faithful Catholics are not enamored of the Pope’s style and understand very well that being faithful has nothing to do with liking and or disliking a papal style. Not everything a Pope does, even Pope Francis, is ‘of the Lord’ as Anonymous proclaims. (That is NOT solid Catholic teaching.)
The Papacy, while critical and one of the marks of the Church, is not immune to corruption. We, the Church, have experienced bad Popes in the past and the Church, thanks to the Holy Ghost, has survived. It is a Protestant misunderstanding that Catholics believe the Pope is somewhat like God’s living oracle. He is not.
An elected Pope is a Pope for life – UNLESS he resigns of his own free will.
In the history of the Church, 4 Popes previous to Benedict XVI have resigned.
The 1983 Code of Canon Law mentions papal resignation in Canon 332, where it states:
” If it happens that the Roman Pontiff resigns his office, it is required for validity that the resignation is made freely and properly manifested but not that it is accepted by anyone. ”
This corresponds to Canon 221 of the Canon Law of 1917,
” If it happens that the Roman Pontiff resigns his office, it is not required for validity that the resignation is accepted by the Cardinals or by anyone else. ”
There is always only ONE POPE at a time. An election is held after a resignation or death.
Anon. I’m not in a ” bad state”as you imply…I was feeling sorry that there is no nice or kind way to express my dismay at being scandalized practically everyday by a person who shall remain nameless but who just this week congratulated obama for his amnesty of millions of illegal aliens, and compared Christian fundamentalists to
Muslim terrorists and has scandalized many Christians by telling atheists they can live moral lives by following their conscience and attain Heaven…to name but a few concerns. I’m really uncomfortable with all these personal aspersions and coward that I am will just say that Ann is the genuine article with a great sense of humor. You’re a loving person Abeca and wish you could see her as I do. If we genuinely love one another, as Jesus commands us to do, then we must strive to listen. I’ll be taking my concerns to Adoration tonight . Also, I’ve been saying the Rosary almost every day for years. I thought everyone did. Why just 100 days? Anyway, I would very much appreciate prayers that I can speak the truth with LOVE and stop being so critical. I will be praying for you all .
By the way, MIchael Vortex is really coming apart at the seams these days over the issue of money. His videos increasingly claim that nuns and priests are stealing from the Church, while he himself promotes real estate “deals” and his “retreats at sea”. Check out this recent video in which he does a particularly vicious number on nuns who, he seems to think, ALL do nothing for the Church except rake in the dough. This is just after he pitches you to buy your seat on the sunny decks of his cruise : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDl8uPE0P0g
Thanks for praying the daily rosary, Dana. I wasn’t quite getting this 100 day invitational at all. (I was, but I’ll withhold biting commentary as per your example.) And the nonsense about continually ignoring a father’s misdeeds when we really need a FATHER is noisome. Considering the ongoing confusion there should be such a hue and cry to clear such ineptitude up – beginning with bad translations etc. Bad translations? Really? Come on.
Where are donations going if those who have advanced theology/psych/etc degrees in the Church cannot get it together to put out a simple and clear press release? Are they taking air guitar and LGBT sensitivity training that’s being pushed in the secular realms? If so, WHY?! Where is the $$$ going? What is being taught to those in seminary and at the Greg?
Children who are suffering should let their cries be heard. They should plead openly and publicly so that their Father will hear them and DO that which is necessary to tend their souls with the fullness of Faith. Not compromise, not PR campaigns, not fiddling with the immoral just to make a mess and have a – smile, smile – conversation while at the same time putting out warnings about the Evil One. (That in itself is confusing and makes a body wonder.)
God help us, but we need a strong and fatherly FATHER. And if the faithful show their Faith in God by doing as much then He will hear their cries.
You are also advised, Dana:
“….My husband who is a convert, has his moments too but he never vents them, he offers them up and bites his tongue. I ask him why doesn’t he just vent, we are only human. He said I don’t want to cause scandal just because of my insecurities. He thinks before he speaks. He is right, I noticed that he doesn’t keep up with media gossip because they only feed more anger into anyone who holds to morals and most of the time, its not always the truth that they represent. Just think, the Pope is on the other side of the world. How are we to know, especially with language barriers. ”
This shaming of implicating that those who speak up are not ‘thinking’ before they speak is reprehensible in that it gives way to silencing the lawful discussion of concerned Catholics. Giving the benefit of the doubt with regard to language barriers etc can only go so far when statements from the Vatican are routinely being misused.
We live in a modern age, as you know, and those at the Vatican are NOT unaware. These are highly educated men. Not simple priests like the Cure of Ars. So while the notion of standing fast and praying your Rosary are stellar jewels, and they are, speak up. Question. Ask. Learn. Do not let the chirpings of ‘faithful Catholics’ don’t ask questions or see disconnects undermine your intellect.
And as for: “…Think about one of the most controversial posters here who said it does not matter if what you say is true. If you say it with conviction and authority, people will believe you and you will influence people. This is exactly what the press is doing with Pope Francis.”
The controversial poster is me, Dana. For I stated that a freelance writer friend of mine indicated that I should go into freelance. When I stated that I didn’t feel I had the credentials, she insisted that I should just choose those topics with which I was familiar and then go forward writing articles with authority and, in time, I would be looked to as an authority. (Homeschooling being chief among them)
That too is common sense and precisely how the literary world works. Mous has clung to this seeming admission for nearly a year now as if that means I have manufactured the bad fruits in the Church. But what mous fails to acknowledge is the spin doctoring of stating that ‘Everything the Pope does is of the Lord” and “that Pope Francis is popular with ‘faithful’ Catholics” is nothing but spin. Not truth.
The Papacy is not a popularity contest, nor is it a showcase of let’s be humble while singularly dismissing time honored tradition, protocol, safety measures, and causing, in reality, MORE EXPENSE, and bother for the sake of appearing humble.
Ann Malley, I realize that this is a game you play.
(And let’s be honest- homeschooling mother’s don’t have time to do the amount of internet trolling that you do.)
Your judgments on the Pope, the Church, the faithful and the Faith are erring and harsh.
You will have to answer for every idle word.
Homeschooling moms do not always maintain the same amount of students, mous. There is such a thing as graduation, that comes as a product of learning lessons. You may want to attempt learning something about Catholicism other than attempting to silence those with eyes to see and ears to hear.
God bless.
Ann Malley, while no faithful Catholic can condone your errors or your attitude, we must respect your free will. However, prudence is an important virtue and remaining silent when one disagrees with the Church or the Pope has much merit.
Thank you so much Anne. You’re a faithful support and I appreciate your lucid and fair insight that you bring to CCD. I agree…you should be a free lance writer…your common sense and love for the Church is much needed in this hard old world.
Ann Malley,
Something is quite fishy! You will know them by their fruits of flip flopping.
Silence implies consent, mous. And I cannot sit idly by and consent to willful mistranslations that make those in the Vatican out to be incompetents – which they ARE NOT.
God bless you Dana and Catherine for your consistent support of and pursuit of the fullness of the Faith! Your witness is refreshing and much needed – and your questioning.
I’m sure you mean me, Catherine, and I don’t blame you…I’m really trying to be less vituperative. I am just not able to discuss things in a reasonable manner so I am sure I sound like a flip-flopper. I can’t win for losing, as they say. I’m trying to find a middle ground so bear with me while I find my feet. Right now I’m Savonarola-meets-the-little Flower. :) You can’t please everyone, and frankly we shouldn’t try, but I really hate offending our Lord with unkind words. sigh
Dana becareful with whom you become friends with on here. They mock and twist my posts. Since you are a convert it would be beneficial for you to receive true support and virtue with faithful Catholic support else where. Now I know why ive been prompted to return. If i quit ill make the devil and these ladies happy.
Dana my comments to you were for you, it may not apply to all but its not how Anne has painted them. I advice you to please be careful.
Everyone should watch this. Pertinent to the discussion.
https://www.churchmilitant.tv/platform/?today=2014-12-05
Abeca, you paint yourself as holy and of intense humility and yet your posts disconnect from that perception. So look to your own posts and what they imply – about you and your blind spots. Your ‘faithfulness’ in attempting to be charitable to one who promotes sodomy because he is honest flies directly in the face with your lack of charity toward others who are similarly honest about their love of Tradition and seeking God’s will. (You paint those as bad and dangerous and that is dangerous)
Take your hubby’s example and think before you post. And think about what you write as the vacuous fluctuation will lead many to believe that is what the Church actually teaches. She does not.
Honest questioning and seeking while having faith in the Holy Ghost to support the Church despite bad leadership is not bad. It is healthy as it lends itself to fighting the good fight, not the blind fight.
I don’t think Catherine was implying that you are flip flopping in any way, Dana. There is no fip flopping in honestly questioning and seeking that which is holy and consistent. But there is flip flopping when one castigates YFC for promoting ‘Sodomy marriage’ and then in the same day paints him as the poor victim who is being picked on because he dares to be honest. (Then making mention of the devil being pleased by a person’s absence on CCD. Sorry, but that is giving too much credence to oneself…. again. And not the principle or issue being discussed.)
If anything those who promote the TLM are daring to be honest and are being castigated for examining real fruits. So again, I ask, where is the consistency? If YFC is to be treated with kid gloves for his making himself vulnerable then why the scurrilous and inaccurate condemnation of ‘being against the Church’ with regards to those who seek to uphold what the Church actually teaches.
It makes no sense. And it falls completely in line with BXVI promoting tradition only to be followed by one seemingly open to all manner of misinterpretation and setting a ‘new’ policy if not on paper then absolutely by appointments.
That’s the flip flop. And that is the basis for wondering what the heck is going on. All the personal – my poor maligned person – hooey that surrounds it is just that – hooey.
Abeca, you please me greatly by posting on CCD because your flip flopping sentimentality provides ongoing proof of what is wrong in the state of Denmark. (That is within the Church)
So please, don’t hide out again for fear of despoilment. Let’s talk about it! And perhaps get real about the pride factor that brought you back to post on CCD. Your hiatus wasn’t about health as you stated so maybe we could discuss that, too.
Dana, perhaps you are in a bad state because of allowing yourself to view things like CMTV.
As a long time spiritual warrior against error in the Church, I will tell you that Michael Voris is not really teaching spiritual warfare the way that our Lady and our Lord have asked us to do it. And that his programs are filled with errors (not spiritual, but factual.)
ChurchMilitant TV is a profit-making entity.
I assure you that if what you desire is to purify the Church, the more you stay away from things like that the better off you will be and the more you will help our Lady and other souls.
Pray the Rosary daily. Pray the Chaplet of Mercy. Cloistered nuns, who do more than any to fight the spiritual battles with the forces of darkness, do not watch CMTV.
(And, think about it, is your parish like this? I have belonged to numerous parishes and none of them could be called “the Church of Nice.”)
There are many errors that need correcting. They are not in the Church. They are the mistakes of individuals. Some are more easily tamped down than others. Some people spread error. The situation is very fluid. Perhaps the Lord brings us that which we need for our training. There are very good sources on spiritual warfare but the Internet is not the place to find them. I strongly advise you to stick with approved Church practices and not lean on entities which have been disapproved by the Church.
Anonymous says, “There are very good sources on spiritual warfare but the Internet is not the place to find them. I strongly advise you to stick with approved Church practices and not lean on entities which have been disapproved by the Church.” = The anonymous wolves in sheep’s clothing within the Church also disapproved of the people crying out when their children were being molested. It was the Internet and other media sources that helped to expose the rot that is still being allowed to fester. It is not surprising when you try to silence those who see that our faithful priests are being silenced our churches and altars are being sacked and changed into Protestant looking ‘worship spaces’.
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Example: Father Guarnizo was sticking to the long tradition of Church approved practices when he guarded the Blessed Sacrament and refrained from giving Holy Communion to the two activist lesbian women who were openly bragging about their lifestyle in front of the priest. Anonymous posters use the Internet to silence faithful priests. Inconsistencies point to deception and it is a fact that priests who simply do their duty are undermined on the internet by “anonymous” trolls. Please do not talk about money making industries when the people who worked to egotistically purchase the big glass elephant are realizing what a money pit it is and they admittedly nagged at a donor for over a year to donate $20 million dollars more in an attempt to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear. The Diocese of Orange is now copying the Protestant idea of building a MegaChurch but they are fooling no one in their corporate thinking quest for more “Megabucks” Moneychangers in the Temple. Take a look at the Tabernacle that has been purchased for Christ Cathedral. It is one of the ugliest choices and there are plenty of ugly choices out there being used to show the King of Kings that it is really MONEY that is the King.
See Michael Rose’s book ‘Ugly as Sin’.
Ann Malley, what you fail to recognize, or at least acknowledge publicly, is that I acknowledge that I am a sinner, for if we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. Your position is that you uphold the true faith and Tradition (Tradition with a capital T means not just the cultural development of the expressions of faith that have developed over time, the traditions of the Church, but rather the true divine revelation that is equal with Scripture as authentic representations of what was handed down by Christ himself). Yet Mother Church herself has said that the positions you hold are NOT part of Sacred Tradition. One of us knows when he is standing in opposition to the current Magisterium’s beliefs about certain small parts of the moral implications of the deposit faith, and calls the Church to a more integrated synthesis about ALL that she teaches about morality. The other claims that to be faithful to Tradition, and tells the world that one must act entirely outside of, and oppose the Magisterium, in very broad swaths relating to doctrine and disciplne, in worship and in sacraments, in some misguided effort to “secure” the deposit of faith. As though one could secure the deposit of faith while being opposed to the Bishop of Rome. As though one needed to protect the Sacraments and the Faith from the successor of Peter himself.
Well hold on there anonymous, I would have to disagree with you in your opinion of ChurchMilitant TV. I watch them a few of their video’s and they are good. Their work does apply to the problems we face in the church. People have real concerns and we should not neglect them. But as your suggestion to pray…that is an excellent one for our beloved Jesus has asked us to pray. PAX Christi
Love Jesus with all your heart, with all your being etc.
Abeca Christian, I do not believe that our Lord and our Lady want an uprising in the Church as Mr. Voris is calling for. Did you watch the video? Prayer is the only method, the only weapon that we have been given to use in this warfare.
Catherine, you seem to have a lot pf personal issues with the Church that are unresolved. I am not trying to silence anyone. If you wish to holler, go ahead. It is very ineffective as your frustrated-sounding post indicates. Prayer changes things.
Dana, your link was not relevant to this discussion at all. It was an ad for a stupid for profit cruise. OK. they have masses. Trust me, you can pay 30% less, get exactly the same cruise, and go to mass yourself. You’ll still see the vortexes spinning in the bar seats.
YFC, the position I hold basically breaks down into obedience in all but sin. There are documents aplenty to discuss the particulars of how precisely that works out. I am not looking to you to clarify my position, nor am I looking to compromised modernity to do the deed either. In times of crisis, in which we are, the basic warning to cleave to Tradition is sound. I will not scandalize my children or myself or my husband with delving into the catch-as-catch-can of ‘hoping’ the parish is orthodox. Label that sin if you will.
You, however, while claiming fidelity to the Faith openly promote sodomy, sodomidical lifestyles, the aping of marriage etc. And that is precisely the infiltration of interpretation in many diocesan parishes that needs to be avoided. It is confusing, wrong, and flies in the face of Tradition – capital T or lower case T. Doesn’t matter, YFC. I will not put my charges, to include my own soul, into a position in which the teachings of the Church are made unclear or are implicated to be too harsh and mean sounding.
The Church’s primary duty is to save souls by way of imparting the Faith, not hiding the Faith and giving out the Blessed Sacrament like some miracle drug that will ‘cure’ the masses while folks are too afraid, even the leadership, to identify the illness.
So that’s the difference in our positions.
And YFC, might we take your admission of being a ‘sinner’ to mean then that:
1) You do agree that homosexual sexual relations are disordered and mortally sinful?
2) You willfully live in an ongoing occasion of mortal sin without the mitigating factors of having to maintain a sense of family for minor children?
3) That promoting sodomy to others, that is encouraging that which is mortally sinfully, is thereby contributing to the mortal sins of others?
If so, YFC, then you are admittedly in ongoing grave error. How then can you in good conscience maintain your position of being an Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion? Honestly? You’ve stated before that you believe that sodomy is only sometimes mortally sinful, that is for ‘some’ people. Please, by way of orthodox argumentation, that is the unchanged teachings of Holy Mother Church, extrapolate on said position and explain how that renders one faithful?
The particular disgust most have with Judas, friend, is that he pretended to be Christ’s friend while at the same time working against Christ in an underhanded manner. So your ‘fidelity’ would seem quite similar considering what/how you post here on CCD. For while you advocate your slavish appreciation for the Holy Pontiff, others, quite rightly, lean more toward a keeping of the Faith. In so doing, they actually aid the Pope in understanding where duty resides in addition to assuring those interested in joining the Catholic Church that She is more than 1 pope.
…and yet CMTV calls out Church hierarchy, Abeca, so where is the consistency? Either you are for identifying and getting rid of the rot in the Church or you are not. That said, people and appointments are policy. So while CMTV may have claimed the position of not pointing to the Pope for criticism, we should still LOOK to the Pope to act in a fatherly fashion – that is protecting the flock from the schmuck that is allowed to continue under his watch.
Intimating that one has a Holy Father, but by way of demonstration, behaving as if said Father can do nothing about the situation emasculates the papacy and renders those who would otherwise ‘trust authority’ to distrust.
So pray, absolutely. Trust in the Holy Ghost. Heck YES! But ignore or dismiss the father’s role in a family by perpetually excusing absenteeism and/or negligence and/or confusing heterodox leadership – NO. Because the buck stops somewhere, friend. So while CMTV is setting up the Bishops for their bad behavior anyone with critical thinking skills will understand that they are not acting alone.
Integrity is a beautiful thing. Calling out crud when one sees it, especially in one’s own house earns the love and respect of the people… that and TRUST. That is why we need to trust in the FAITH and start demanding that our leadership – all of it – does the same as well.
God bless you more.
Prayer is NOT the only weapon, mous. God gave us intellects and wills and the wherewithal to speak and defend the Faith. At confirmation one gains the grace to be a soldier for Christ. This calls on all faithful Catholics to speak the Truth in Charity.
Speaking the truth about failed leadership can often give those same leaders the push they NEED to be faithful. Being faithful can be difficult and what you proscribe seems to negate giving our leadership all of the help they need in these times.
Pointing out error gives the one in question the opportunity to review their position. So whereas, mous, you seem intent on pointing out the errors of others so that they may repent, you seem completely unwilling to exercise the same charity toward a Church leadership which, in many cases, is openly scandalizing not only the faithful, but potential Catholics. That is not okay.
Also, your response to Dana about the CMTV link was inflammatory and nothing but dissembling from reality. Answer the charges with integrity, mous. Don’t scurry away with your name and tail duly tucked for that is a false advertisement of what the Catholic Church is all about. Disgusting.
Ann Malley, the Blessed Mother wishes your family and you to attend a Catholic Church. She wishes for you to confess and lead them back to the True Faith. Stop inventing things. Learn how to be pleasing to God.
Yes, indeed, mous, Our Lady does want my family and I to attend a Catholic Church wherein we will have the fullness of Faith. That is why we are where we are. That is also why YOU should be fighting for the fullness of the Faith within the diocesan offerings.
Stop ignoring the Faith and what your baptism and confirmation – provided you have received those Sacraments – prepare and demand that you do. For those who know no better will be treated far easier than those who saw and heard and yet ignored the dismantling of what Our Lady suffered at the foot of the Cross to give us.
But again, you digress and dismiss and think to mislead with pious talk that lacks true piety. God help you.
No one is flip flopping as these ladies try to mislead others into thinking. But the faith is one that one keeps growing with daily. We are always learning. We never stop learning the ways of the Lord. Prayer is THE MAIN weapon we have and in which our Lord has asked us to do. Mercy and actions then come natural. Prayer is a personal relationship with our Lord, when done in LOVE. Without LOVE and PRAYER, no matter what actions we do, it will be hollow.
Read your own posts, Abeca, regarding flip flopping and cut out focusing on the ‘ladies’ who are trying vehemently to promote love of God, Faith (all of it), and growth (in the Truth.)
So yes, mercy and action then come. But where is your mercy when you blindly cast others as biased against you for unfairly intimating that they are schismatic or against the Church when you yourself endorse CMTV that exposes grave problems? That is all others have ever done. Nobody is advocating leaving the Church despite your attempt to tag them with that narrative of fear mongering.
That is why prayer and fasting and chatting will all be hollow without the TRUTH. That is unless we are honest with others and ourselves. That includes you, friend, and your harping about others who are, despite your blindness, on the same side when it comes to promoting the Faith and defending the Church.
Who knows what Pope Francis will say? Of course he will support the Sacrament of Marriage, but will he also encourage the likes of Donald Wuerl and Blasé Cupich in giving Holy Communion to the divorced and remarried when they chose to continue committing adultery – living in sexual Mortal Sin with the valid spouse of another ?
See 1 Cor 11:26-30.
Cardinal George got it right –
Regarding POPE FRANCIS –
” The pope, said Cardinal George, expresses sympathy “in a way that leaves people wondering if he still holds the doctrine.”
” The question is raised, why doesn’t he himself clarify these things?
Why is it necessary that apologists have to bear that burden of trying to put the best possible face on it?
Does he not realize the consequences of some of his statements, or even some of his actions?
Does he not realize the repercussions? Perhaps he doesn’t. I don’t know whether he’s conscious of all the consequences of some of the things he’s said and done that raise these doubts in people’s minds. ”
” Cardinal George revealed that American bishops had already gone to Rome to express concerns over the Holy Father’s statements. The retiring Cardinal said that the “big question” he had for the pope if he could speak with him was to ask who is advising the pope. Or as it was relayed in the initial launch of John Allen’s interview teaser: “Obviously he’s getting input from somewhere,” George said. “Much of it he collects himself, but I’d love to know who’s truly shaping his thinking.”
” I don’t know Pope Francis well enough. I certainly respect him as pope, but there isn’t yet an understanding of, ‘What are you doing here? ’”
https://www.lifesitenews.com/static/cardinal-george-on-pope-francis-why-doesnt-he-clarify.html
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It would be very helpful if Pope Francis would start reviewing the entire content of the CCC prior to his trip to the USA, to insure no more blunders that give credence to the beliefs being pushed by heretics.
The world needs clarity and truth, not the confusion of the devil.
We do not need another politician who pushes his own personal views.
Such a condescending post. Do you really believe it is your role in the Church to ask the Pope to read a Catechism?
Yes, Anonymous. ALL Cardinals, Bishops, Priests, and even the Pope should be reminded to read THE “Catechism of the Catholic Church” – which contains the OFFICIAL Doctrine of the Faith.
All errors must be corrected. Errors are not TRUTH.
It is not Charitable to let errors stand.
(All human beings are capable of error, even the Pope.)
See Code of Canon Law:
” OBLIGATIONS and RIGHTS of ALL the CHRISTIAN FAITHFUL ”
” 212 §3. According to the knowledge, competence, and prestige which they possess, they have the right and even at times the duty to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters which pertain to the good of the Church
and to make their opinion known to the rest of the Christian faithful,
without prejudice to the integrity of faith and morals, with reverence toward their pastors, and attentive to common advantage and the dignity of persons. “
For quotes from Popes Saint John Paul II, Benedict XVI, and Francis about the “Catechism of the Catholic Church” (proving its OFFICIAL status – see:
“What Catholics REALLY Believe SOURCE”
https://whatcatholicsreallybelieve.com/
Here is the CCC on the Vatican web site:
https://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/ccc_toc.htm
For those who may not know, the CCC has a dark green cover in the USA, and contains these words on the outside Cover –
“revised in accordance with the official Latin text promulgated by Pope John Paul II”.
No, unless he states that marriage is ONLY between a man and a woman.
You mean unless he states clearly that sacramental marriage is ONLY between a man and a woman.
The English version of the Synod Report left out “marriage is between a man and a woman.” Homosexuals could agree with putting “sacramental” before “marriage.”
Joel – Thank you for the important point. Many of us do.
Marriage is only between one man and one woman.
State sanctioned sodomy is something else.
Betty – If by “sodomy” you mean private consensual acts between individuals, the Supreme Court ruled on this over 10 years ago. If you mean agreeing that the fundamental right to civil, but not sacramental, marriage (recognized in over a dozen prior supreme court decisions) also applies to same sex couples, well, we are waiting as to whether they will weigh in on that issue. In the meantime, a number of states have weighed in opposed to the idea, and another smaller groups of states have weighed in opposed.
Sodomy is anal sex between two males. No matter what is ruled legal, homosexual acts are acts of grave depravity and are intrinsically disordered.
Joel, no one defines sodomy that way. There are a number of definitions for sodomy, but yours is not one of them. Sodomy can be defined as anal sex between two individuals. If that is your definition, then most people who engage in sodomy are straight men and women.
Recent court decisions about marriage have nothing to do with sodomy, by nearly any definition of the word. Two women engaging in sodomy? Well, by some obscure definitions, they might. But whatever they do in their private lives, and whatever two men do in theirs, does not require marriage or any kind of state sanctioning in the US. State “sanctioned” marriage is not a license to have sex, as no license is required.
YFC, the Supreme Court of the USA can not make any judgments on Sodomites going to HELL. God does.
You have to decide if your earthly carnal desires are more important than your eternity.
The Church teaches that Sodomy is a Mortal Sin – no matter who voluntarily participates in this evil practice.
CCC: ” 105 God is the author of Sacred Scripture. “The divinely revealed realities, which are contained and presented in the text of Sacred Scripture, have been written down under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.”
“For Holy Mother Church, relying on the faith of the apostolic age, accepts as sacred and canonical the books of the Old and the New Testaments, whole and entire, with all their parts, on the grounds that, written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, they have God as their author,
and have been handed on as such to the Church herself.”
Regarding homosexual acts:
Gen 19:1-29; Rom 1:24-27; 1 Cor 6:10; 1 Tim 1:10; Jude 1:7
1 Cor 11:27-30 about condemnation for receiving Holy Communion unworthily.
YFC, what you or other consenting adults do in the privacy of your own home, is your own business.
You can choose heaven, or you can choose hell for eternity.
However, leave the rest of society out of your sins.
Marriage is only between one Man and one Woman. I don’t care what the Courts state – when they promote laws that defy God, and assist in sending Souls to Hell.
TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE ‘A COMPELLING GOVERNMENT INTEREST’
Appeals brief explains children, society both benefit from man-woman institution
by BOB UNRUH WND
The institution of traditional marriage, which predates virtually all governments, is a compelling state interest, because it benefits children, asserts a brief in support of Florida’s law defining marriage as the union of one man and one woman.
“The preeminent social purpose of marriage – and the overriding reason why government recognizes marriage – is to connect children to both of their biological parents, argues a brief submitted by the Alliance Defending Freedom to the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on behalf of supporters of a Florida law defining marriage as the union of one man and one woman.
In August, a judge in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Florida issued an order striking down the law. The order was stayed pending appeal.
“By joining a man and a woman in a committed relationship, society forges a link between sex, procreation, and childrearing,” the brief explains. “And by socially connecting these three closely related activities, marriage encourages a man and a woman in a sexual relationship to remain together and jointly care for the children they produce.”
The brief says “the man-woman-marriage laws challenged here satisfy constitutional review because they substantially further the state’s compelling interest in connecting children to both of their biological parents.”
but then by extension, the state has a compelling interest in connecting children to their parents in general (i.e. a compelling interest in supporting parenting). Therefore, the state has a compelling interest in allowing same sex couples who have either adopted children or are jointly parenting one’s biological children to marry, thereby granting them access to the institution (i.e. civil marriage) that best serves the interests of the children.
If same sex people have biological children of their own, they must support them legally, and if they are the parental custodian they have all those obligations as well.
However (I don’t care what the government says), homosexuals should not be permitted to adopt the children of heterosexuals.
Children learn from example. Sodomy is a sin that if un-repented sends Souls to Hell.
MAX children do not “learn” to be gay, so whatever example they are given in that regard isn’t a lesson they can learn. It would be like saying that children learn to be left handed if they have a left handed parent. It just doesn’t work that way.
YFC, never promote Mortal Sin.
At a young age Children learn to tolerate or love mortal sin through the example of their parents.
Never put children in a position where they have to split their loyalty by choosing between God or their parents. They will not necessarily become homosexual themselves (which in some cases but not all is a learned experience). But due to loyalty to parents homosexual parents put these children in a position where they will have to defend mortal sin.
“It just doesn’t work that way” = 2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear lest, as the serpent seduced Eve by his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted and fall from the simplicity that is in Christ. – Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no wonder: for Satan himself transformeth himself into an angel of light. – Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible
Be Gone Satan
https://www.ewtn.com/library/NEWAGE/BEGONESA.HTM
Children are led by example to experiment with that which they should not, YFC, by the modeling of parents and society. So endorsing same sex sexual relationships under the auspices of ‘marriage’ will open the floodgates of children to give sodomy a try. Something which you understand fully, but continue to negate because it does not advance your agenda.
So to paraphrase your latest useful idiot, “Sodomy marriage is marriage between two men. Got it. Now stop promoting it.” Of course, that individual has been tripped up thanks to your continued subtlety, but her original message is worth repeating despite her sudden scruples about appearing mean.
That’s right MAX. Children have young impressionable minds. They can be emotionally scared for life as well. It is because same sex partners defy the natural law. When children get confused by the examples that are thrown at them, sooner or later it has an effect on them. On anyone. God created the natural law for a reason. When mankind defies it, it causes much confusion, chaos etc. And we all know that the devil is the master of confusion.
So you are correct to hold on to your convictions that by the grace of God, are made available to all.
“…Children have young impressionable minds. They can be emotionally scared for life as well. When children get confused by the examples that are thrown at them, sooner or later it has an effect on them. On anyone”
That is why it is also important for parents to guard their children against heterodoxy that is sadly encountered at many parishes across the United States. If one hasn’t been forced to endure the trial of moving their family from state to state, one may not understand the absolute necessity of religious continuity.
So while we are focusing on the reality of children’s impressionable minds, let us advance that very logical observation to encompass all those damaging aspects that can and do have long term effects if those with the care for said children do not take heed of nature and expose their charges to that which scandalizes. ‘Hoping’ there won’t be damage to an impressionable mind when one has knowledge of the effects is nothing short of foolishness.
So excellent point, Abeca Christian!
Children are best served by one mother (femaie) and one father (male).
MAX AMEN to that!
Well, Micheal, even you should be able to see the counter-arguments.
When dealing with a fundamental right like free association that allows people to choose the identity of their spouse, you not only need a compelling state interest, you also must employ the least restrictive means of achieving that purpose with respect to encumbering the fundamental right.
If your “compelling state interest” is to connect children to their biological parents, then the least restrictive means is to ban adoptions, and to prevent people who do not plan on raising a child together from using artificial conception methods.
This construction, however, leaves orphans unable to participate in family life. I suppose you can say this is an exception, and that only hetero couples should raise adoptive children due to the best interest of the child—supported by research that shows children do better with hetero parents (though this finding is disputed).
Since children aren’t really the primary concern, and banning gay marriage is what you wish to do, you might be better served asserting that “forging a link between sex, procreation, and childbearing” is your compelling state interest.
This construction, however, would force you to also reject marriages between infertile people.
I guess you could argue that the ability to choose a marriage partner is only a fundamental right for heterosexuals, and that there is no fundamental right for gays to marry based on an intent of the framers argument—but I think the current court would reject that argument after Lawrence v. Texas.
Compare this to the Coverup of Terry Bean – Founder of Human Rights Campaign 4 Ephebophle Rape of Boys:
“Nothing on Terry Bean” – by Michelle Malkin.
https://townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/2014/12/03/nothing-on-terry-bean-n1926538/page/full
& SEE
Gay-rights group targets US bishops in pressure campaign to influence Synod
Catholic World News – 11/25/14
https://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=23342
A leading gay-rights group is targeting several Catholic bishops, hoping to influence the results of the 2015 Synod of Bishops, the National Catholic Register reports.
The Human Rights Campaign has prepared a pamphlet encouraging activists to plan public events and distribute literature in order to put pressure on eight bishops, identified by the organization as the prelates “most outspoken in their rejection of LGBT Catholics, their civil rights and their rightful place in the Church.”
The pamphlet—which contains several factual errors, and claims that Pope Francis will announce “new doctrine” after the October 2015 meeting of the Synod– urges gay activists to make “the voice of the people” heard, demanding support for homosexual Catholics.
The bishops targeted by the Human Rights Campaign are:
Archbishop Charles Chaput of Philadelphia, who will host the World Meeting of Families in September 2015;
Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone of San Francisco, who chairs the US bishops’ committee on marriage;
Cardinal Francis George, the recently retired Archbishop of Chicago;
Archbishop Joseph Kurtz of Louisville, the president of the US bishops’ conference;
Archbishop William Lori of Baltimore, who chairs the bishops’ committee on religious freedom;
Archbishop John Nienstadt of St. Paul-Minneapolis;
Bishop Thomas Paprocki of Springfield, Illinois; and
Archbishop Dennis Schnurr of Cincinnati.
I hope these bishops will reach out to these confused people and pray for them.
First of all, the accusations against Bean come from a guy with a long criminal record himself, even though he is only in his mid twenties. Included in that rap sheet is involvement with crystal meth, and if you have ever interacted with anyone addicted to meth (and I truly hope you never do – it is a wicked drug much more so than most of any other drugs we talk about commonly), you know that accusations of being spied upon, videotaped, etc are common and almost always unfounded. I don’t know whether Bean is innocent or guilty. But his accuser has a history that makes me wonder whether he is believable. On the other hand, we have to take accusations of abuse seriously and investigate them thorougly.
Second of all, whether Terry Bean is guilty or innocent has nothing whatsoever to do with whether gay people are entitled to the same basic rights that we all take for granted. The right, for example, to rent a house if we have the money to do so. The right to a job based soley on our qualifications and competence, not on any other external factors. The right to not be accosted physically because of who we are or who we are with. The right to live and love as everyone else, regardless of their faith or lack of faith.
Your Fellow Catholic, do you agree that homosexual acts are acts of grave depravity and are intrinsically disordered?
Joel, YFC will not answer your question, but keep asking anyway.
Your Fellow Catholic (YFC),
1) do you agree that homosexual acts are acts of grave depravity and are intrinsically disordered?
2) do you believe that homosexual acts are Mortal Sins? If not, why not?
3) do you think you know more than God ?
If this news is true and we may have a Pope visit, I encourage many to please write in charity to our Pope and express your concerns. Its something that our family has taken up and offering up. Don’t expect more after that. Being human we have expectation and often our pride dictates our actions, our disappointments but we must not allow “feelings” to get in the way of doing the right thing. If you ever get angry at something, convert that anger as how God wants you to through His righteousness. Obedience is good when we know the faith, understanding the instinctive evils, natural law. Our Lord did warn us about many false teachers. He did, so we must not be victims of false teachers and their power of suggestion. But we must also understand how humans work throughout all ages, since the beginning of time, even God was patient with whom He placed in leadership. Do we lack trust in God? Is our bad will pride dictating our actions? Our Lord has chosen His disciples, and they were far from perfect, some have let Him down. But is our Lord really let down? He knows everything.
You are correct Abeca.
CCC: ” 907 In accord with the knowledge, competence, and preeminence which they possess, [lay people] have the right and even at times a duty to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters which pertain to the good of the Church,
and they have a right to make their opinion known to the other Christian faithful,
with due regard to the integrity of faith and morals and reverence toward their pastors, and with consideration for the common good and the dignity of persons.”
Cardinal George asks all the right questions.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/static/cardinal-george-on-pope-francis-why-doesnt-he-clarify.html
Clearly the Pope has surrounded himself with some bad (heterodox) people, or perhaps even some heretics.
There are only a handful of people on this site who actually PROMOTE Mortal Sin.
YFC (moniker = Your Fellow Catholic) actively promotes homosexual acts and homosexual marriage.
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” LOVE is NOT TOLERANCE
Christian love bears evil, but it does not tolerate it.
It does penance for the sins of others, but it is not broadminded about sin.
The cry for tolerance never induces it to quench its hatred of the evil philosophies that have entered into contest with the Truth.
It forgives the sinner, and it hates the sin; it is unmerciful to the error in his mind.
The sinner it will always take back into the bosom of the Mystical Body;
but his lie will never be taken into the treasury of His Wisdom.
Real love involves real hatred:
whoever has lost the power of moral indignation and the urge to drive the buyers and sellers from the temples
has also lost a living, fervent love of Truth. .
Charity, then, is not a mild philosophy of “live and let live”;
it is not a species of sloppy sentiment.
Charity is the infusion of the Spirit of God,
which makes us love the beautiful and hate the morally ugly. ” – Bishop Fulton Sheen.
Thank you MIKE and DOTTIE. God bless you both. I appreciate your encouragement. I’ll reflect on your quote from Bishop Fulton Sheen after I pray the rosary.
I kindly ask all to pray the rosary for 100 days. But first go to confession, during those 100 days detach yourself from secular views. The devil will not like this suggestion and he will taunt you vehemently, especially if he suspects that it will move you closer to Jesus and His mum. 100 days, daily. Pick a special area in your home to pray. Have holy water with you and or blessed salts.
Abeca writes, “Well hold on there anonymous, I would have to disagree with you in your opinion of ChurchMilitant TV. I watch them a few of their video’s and they are good. Their work does apply to *the problems* we face in the church. ” = Inconsistent flip flopping enables “the problems” and what you are doing is no different than the individuals who flip flopped back and forth and then assailed the parents of the molested children when they were crying out to have these abuses stopped. These very useful idiots were in essence protecting and enabling the wolves who were then allowed to continue their path of destruction. It wasn’t just children that were being raped and molested. The Teachings and the Traditions of the Church were being pillaged and plundered in tandem with the sex abuses. Many of these same wolves were dismantling Church teaching with the approval of a “like minded” homosexual agenda promoting bishop and many are still actively undermining the Church’s teaching as the recent Synod proved. Did you take a hiatus so that you could return and subtly infer to the blogosphere that YFC is like minded in his Catholic reasoning? You have yet to retract that statement. You have lost creditability unless you retract that statement that enabled future readers to think that homosexual activists are like minded with Catholicism. That is what the recent Sin-od was trying to do. Retract that blunder Abeca.
Oh no Catherine, not this again. You are just trying to find something to argue about. You only cut and paste what you want and then add your own interpretations you even twist my intentions. Conservative Catholics against Conservative Catholics…
Oh well such is life, out of charity I will correct what you are just trying to do here,
That like minded comment that I made, was from another thread, which you have NOW taken OUT OF CONTEXT, you have molested what little charity I was seeking to reach out to YFC! IF people of good will here have read it in its entirety without dismissing my other convictions of love of faith, would not conclude what you just want the readers to believe.
The only blunder is the one made up in your head. MAY God help us all. I don’t blame anyone if they don’t admonish your bad behavior, for they too will face your wrath.
Then speak to the issue, Abeca, about how you can so dynamically counter what you yourself write from one post to the next. What IS the interpretation. Tell us.
Your extolling another’s wrath is again negating your own accountability for what you yourself write, friend. You speak now of ‘molesting’ charity. Good grief. You molest common sense and consistency. You say you were reaching out to YFC – this after slamming him YOURSELF. You feign friendship only hide behind ‘people of good will’. Abeca, you are not the only one of good will nor the only one capable of admonishing.
Be well and may God bless you more.
Blessed Ann Catherine Emmerich had a vision of two popes living at sometime in the future. I asked someone about her vision and they said that one is the True Pope and the other a false one. There are some other present day visionaries with similar messages. I know one is not required to believe in approved visions or apparitions but wow! It does appear that we are living in a time of two popes. There is a lot of questions I have about pope BenedictXVI resignation and the time leading up to it with the Vatileaks dossier. Now there is this book out there with a group of Cardinals collaborating pre-conclave, which happens to be a violation of canon law and incures a penalty of excommunication, to put Cardinal Borgolilio on the papal throne. Something is very strange with what is going on. The Synod and aftermath sealed it for me. Now today it is reported Pope Francis fires head of the Swiss Guards because he is too strict. I would think being strict is a good thing for being head of a military solider/guard? I wonder who is going to get canned next? Maybe Cardinal Pell, he just located millions of Euros in lost Vatican bank accounts!
It is like a bloody James Bond movie we are watching unfolding before our eyes…..
“The Prophecies of St. Malachy” has a blank space after “The glory of the olive” which fits Pope Benedict. Perhaps this is for the pope who speaks half the truth, Pope Francis. Then comes “Petrus Romanus.” Only our first pope had the name Peter. I believe that St. Peter will be risen from dead to lead the Catholic Church in a time of unprecedented crisis!!
@Joel there are several theories I’m aware of regarding the alleged prophecies of St.Malachy. The blank space could represent future popes until the final pope “Peter the Roman” at the end of the world or “Peter the Roman” was someone else’s addition and “The Glory of the Olive” aka Pope BenedictXVl is the final pope. That would mean we are in The end times according to said prophecies. I honestly have no opinion on St. Malachy prophecies but I really don’t believe God is going to raise St. Peter from the grave until the Last Day, you know the Final Judgement and all.
Susanne, you would probably be better off sticking to the two most important books in the Catholic Faith – rather than dabbling in hearsay, and not trusting in Jesus..
1) Sacred Scripture (Catholic Bible) in entirety which contains the speech of God (CCC 81);
and
2) Catechism of the Catholic Church (1997) which contains the Doctrine of the Faith.
JESUS said: ” But of that day or that hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
Take heed, watch and pray; for you do not know when the time will come. ”
Mk 13:32-33
Therefore, why not trust Jesus ? Why try to out-guess His statement to us ?
If God wanted us to know when, he would have told us. Why do you defy Him?
@Sandra
So sorry my comment made you feel uncomfortable. I’m not defying God. I do follow the Catechism of the Catholic Church and The Holy Bible. I do Trust only in Jesus Christ and His One, Holy, Catholic,and Apostolic Church. I really don’t have an opinion on St. Malachy alleged phrophecies and or any other visionary phrophecies or messages nor believe in except for the approved by the Church ones.
I was making a comment about Joel’s reference to St. Malachy and the alleged phrophecies. Actually a very devote, holy and most humble Roman Catholic priest I know told me about StMalachy and the alleged prophecies with those different thoughts of the “Glory of the Olive” and “Peter the Roman”. Yes I know no one knows except for God The Father the First Person of the Most Holy Trinity, the day and the hour of Jesus Christ return, The Final Judgement End of this world. I do know there will be signs of when it is near as the Holy Bible and catechism states. We must always be prepared for our own end of the world our own death and personal judgement. Thank you again for your concern. I pray you have a most Blessed Advent and Christmas.
After all the terrible damage this pope has done to the Church, I do not trust him in regards to traditional marriage. He was elected to undo what Saint John Paul; II and Pope Benedict did, so I believe firmly that he will be a puppet of the modernists who seek to destroy the Mystical Body of Christ. Ave Maria Purrissima!
wow. such disrespect for this Pope and for the papacy. And hence for the Church.