Pope Francis on May 29 named 16 new cardinal electors, including Bishop Robert McElroy of San Diego, California, along with three Vatican officials and a number of bishops from the global south.
The pope made the announcement at the end of his weekly Sunday Regina Coeli prayer from a window in the Apostolic Palace overlooking St. Peter’s Square. Francis said he would install the new cardinals during a consistory at the Vatican on Saturday, August 27.
McElroy, 68, will become the seventh residential U.S. cardinal under the age of 80 and thus eligible to vote in a papal conclave and the fifth U.S. cardinal named by Pope Francis, joining the ranks of Blase Cupich of Chicago; Joseph Tobin of Newark, New Jersey; Wilton Gregory of Washington, D.C.; and Kevin Farrell, prefect of the Vatican’s Dicastery for Laity, Family and Life.
The other cardinal electors of the United States are Sean O’Malley of Boston; Daniel DiNardo of Galveston-Houston; and Timothy Dolan of New York, all of whom were named by Pope Benedict XVI.
Among the other new cardinal-desigates are Vatican officials Archbishop Arthur Roche, head of the Vatican’s liturgy office; Bishop Lazarus You Heung-sik, head of the Vatican’s clergy office; and Spanish Archbishop Fernando Vérgez Alzaga, who governs the Vatican City-State.
Prelates from eight archdioceses around the world will also receive the cardinals’ red hat from Francis, along with five dioceses that are not traditional cardinal sees.
Bishop Robert McElroy of San Diego in October 2019. (CNS photo/Paul Haring)
McElroy, who was first made an auxiliary bishop of San Francisco in 2010 and then named bishop of San Diego by Pope Francis in 2015, will be the first cardinal for the Diocese of San Diego.
He has been among the most vocal champions of Pope Francis’ pastoral agenda among the U.S. hierarchy, frequently echoing the pope’s prioritization of environmental concerns, migration and a more welcoming approach to LGBTQ persons.
In 2019, McElroy was one of two Americans to be named by Francis to participate in the Vatican’s Synod on the Amazon region, which opened up discussions on celibacy requirements for the priesthood and the possibility of restoring the ministry of women to the diaconate.
“I’m in favor of it,” McElroy told NCR at the time on the question of women deacons. “My view on it is [that] women should be invited into every ministry or activity we have that’s not doctrinally precluded,” he said.
McElroy’s selection by Francis also comes at a time when the U.S. church has been roiled by debates over whether pro-choice Catholic politicians should be denied Communion, most recently led by Archbishop Salvatore Cordielone of San Francisco, California who earlier this month announced he would bar U.S. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi from receiving the sacrament. McElroy, by contrast, has warned against the “weaponization” of the Eucharist for political ends.
His elevation to cardinal means that Francis has once again chosen to pass over the more conservative leaning Los Angeles Archbishop Jose Gomez, who heads an archdiocese that has normally been led by a cardinal. Gomez is also currently the president of the U.S. bishops’ conference.
Cupich, one of Francis’ closest U.S. allies, told NCR that he is “both happy and yet not really surprised,” by the pope’s decision to name McElroy to the College of Cardinals.”He is one of the most gifted bishops in the United States, and I think that his nomination today is a sign of the esteem that he has in the life of the church, which is held by the Holy Father,” Cupich said….
The above comes from a May 29 story in the National Catholic Reporter.
The “ladies in the chancery offices are partying tonight, the bath houses will be jammed….
“McElroy has warned against the “weaponization” of the Eucharist. (Times of San Diego)”
Good thing Frank-on-the Tiber would never “weaponize” the College of Cardinals.
Just pass out that Eucharist as if their was no meaning to it. Pass it to anyone. Come Bishop follow the teaching of our Lord and our Catholic doctrine
Now we’re in for it. Climate change will be the number one issue, then the promotion of gender diversity, then the censuring of bishops who disallow pro-abortion politicians from receiving the Eucharist … and then the relegation of pro-life, anti-abortion Catholics to the back of the bus. Thanks for nothing, Pope Francis.
Of all the? What? Is this a joke?
I bet Gomez is steaming. What a slight. For years now.
But McElroy has enforced Traditionis Custodes. I think we see what’s going on.
Another reason to get out of here.
Just out of curiosity – where exactly do you intend to go? The Catholic Church, headed by the Pope in the Vatican, is worldwide, ergo, you can probably go to a more conservative area to reside, but the church will still be there, like it or not. Are you proposing a schism of some kind? What’s your plan?
Dremel the schism is already here it will become more evident as time passes. When the gay filth has imposed its perversions on the Church since Francis will not stop the Church will officially splinter. That is coming you can bet on it
On the bright side, maybe the McCardinal will be moved someplace else. Anyplace else! Well, almost anyplace . . . just occurred that he may think he can sniff the white smoke already. Yikes!
Yes, he can move anywhere. Including to the Vatican. The next Pope elected by the College of Cardinals will be in the image of Pope Francis– what a shame.
Another Cardinal (McElroy) for a ‘church’ made in Francis’ own image.
Well, it is the Catholic Church of Pope Francis, not Christ, isn’t it. Sick of this!
Archdiocese of Washington, gird your loins and break out the asbestos underwear! McElroy is a-comin’!!
Wait, what? Where’s Gregory going?
is that a gay allusion? asbestos underwear? because gay is toxic? what do you mean?
suggest you add a 2nd track to your mind. not EVERYTHING is about “gay”.
Ugh…another one out to remake the church into a social justice charity. I doubt he’ll stay in San Diego. My bet is on Boston.
One had to wonder if Gomez is continuing to be punished for his initial silencing of Roger the Dodger.
Xavier, the Orthodox Catholic blogosphere in Spain believes Gomez’s main ” disqualifier” is his membership in Opus Dei ,along with his trenchant shoot- down of the culture of death in his speech in Spain some months back
I’m confused. Why would Spain care about Gomez? I don’t know the name of a single bishop in Spain, and I don’t care either.
I think Drewelow is referring to a famous video speerch made by Abp. Gonez at an international conference in Spain, last year, on Nov. 4th, heavily criticizing all the leftist “woke” Death Culture agendas.
It’s apparent what’s happening. Los Angeles, Detroit and Philadelphia were “skipped,” even though they’ve long been sees with cardinals. Instead, the Church gets cardinals from Newark, New Jersey and San Diego. Even though Archbishop Gomez and the Pope are Latin Americans who care about migrants and refugees, it seems there’s something about Archbishop Gomez that led the Pope to select another liberal (or rather dissenting) Irish(-American) bishop. And, Archbishop Chaput is an indigenous American who was passed over. Were Archbishops Gomez, Chaput and Vigneron simply too Catholic for the current Pope and his cadre of advisors?
Is this the Vatican’s version of packing the Supreme Court?
Following the 2020 consistory, 73 of the cardinal electors had been appointed by Pope Francis, 39 by Pope Benedict XVI, and 16 by Pope John Paul II. Each of Pope Francis’ consistories has increased the number of cardinal electors beyond the set limit of 120, as high as 128 in 2019 and 2020. Confirming the limit of 120 electors set by Saint Paul VI, St. John Paul II wrote in “Universi Dominici Gregis,” his rules for a conclave, that “the maximum number of cardinal electors must not exceed 120.”
And, this was before Pope Francis announced today that, in August, he would create 21 more cardinals, 16 of them young enough to be cardinal electors.
Pray for the cardinal electors who will serve at the next papal conclave. Come, Holy Spirit! Marana tha! Come, Lord Jesus!
I don’t agree that Gomez is conservative. How many years has he been in LA and the Religious Education Conference (i.e., pro-gay) is still going on. He even celebrates the opening Mass for this conference and he is is, posing in a picture with all the Libs.
Maybe Cupich was overlooked because SJ James Martin. A woke liberal
Cardinal Cupich was not overlooked. He went from Spokane to being the Cardinal Archbishop of Chicago. When in Spokane, he was the only bishop known to have told his priests and deacons not to pray with 40 Days for Life. (He backtracked on that after public criticism, saying he was misunderstood.) He also asks, ““How can the Vatican refuse to bless gay marriages?” And, he oversees several dissident priests and Mundelein Seminary.
Anonymous Clergyman-well, if you listen to Michael Voris regularly; he certainly doesn’t think Vigneron is “too Catholic” by any stretch.
I listened to Mr. Voris a few times years ago. He made some statements, including about those in the Archdiocese of Detroit, that I knew to be untrue. Even after others contacted him, he never made any (at least) public correction of his erroneous statements. Can anyone tell me what Archbishop Vigneron has said or done that is contrary to our faith (and not just Mr. Voris’s opinions or preferences)?
Getting fully vaccinated and boosted (and still getting COVID), as the Archbishop did, is not a matter of faith and morals.
And, Peggy above responded to my previous post. I never said that Archbishop Gomez is “conservative,” only that he is a Catholic.
It’s difficult to tell if some other bishops hold the Catholic faith, let alone teach it.
Wonderful! Congratulations Bishop McElroy! May God Bless you in your new ministry as a cardinal!
I was wondering why Bp. McElroy decided to do Confirmations at St. Anne, the Traditional Latin Mass parish in San Diego. Now I suspect why: a good opportunity to show his moderation. Confirmation went pretty smoothly but then followed Benediction. The bishop refused to kneel and went up to grab the monstrance while the choir was still singing the Tantum Ergo. The MC rushed to bring the humeral veil, His Excellency blessed, and the bells rang over the chant. What a contemptuous behavior!
“Contemptuous behavior”? How do you even know what might be going on in his mind when he started the Benediction? He might have been confused, tired, needing to go to the bathroom, whatever. Can you have just given this Bishop a break please? Look. If there was a Mass for that event that would have been a Missa Cantata or Solemnis, which is long already (I don’t know exactly which as I wasn’t there). On top of that there’s the Confirmation. How many kids were confirmed? I thought so. Then you have Adoration on top of that? What were the priests of the beloved FSSP in that parish thinking? Were they trying to get him to drop dead? He’s no spring chicken, people. So you have Adoration/Benediction on top of a Confirmation on top of a Missa Cantata or Solemnis? This Bishop (who most likely isn’t used to such three-in-one liturgies) must be tired.
He graced your Parish with his episcopal presence (which you cynically interpret as being self-serving on his part); yet all you can point out is his liturgical error of giving the Benediction while the “Tantum ergo” is being sung? Wow. A priest or a bishop doing something liturgically wrong in that Parish and he gets attacked for his “contemptuous behavior.”
He had the two very knowledgeable FSSP priests on either side instructing him on what to do. He had just to follow their instruction. He chose to ignore the custom and do it his way, in contempt of tradition. The celebrant of Benediction waits for the end of the Tantum Ergo and then says the collect before ascending the altar, take the monstrance, and impart the blessing. Check Fortescue, Jon, and you’ll find clarification to all your liturgical confusion.
Your judgment is out-of-proportion to the liturgical “transgression” McElroy committed. It doesn’t necessarily show his “contempt” for anything nor anyone. There could be any reason why he decided to bless the people out-of-sequence. However, your uncharitable judgment possibly says more about how you might already have regarded him with some contempt. In any case, might you be reminded that McElroy is the Bishop of that place, and moreover, that that is his parish, not yours and not the beloved FSSP’s. And if the Bishop of that place wants to bless his people while the “Tantum ergo” is being sung, so be it, regardless of what Fortescue says and regardless of what the “custom” of the parish dictates. The two priests alongside him hopefully followed his lead, which should be a good lesson for the pair of them on obedience.
No Mass. Only Confirmation and Benediction.
Bedwere, it is comments like yours that collectively add up and result in the Magesterium deciding to produce documents like Traditionis custodes. “You blind guides, straining out gnats and swallowing camels!” Matthew 23:24
Oh, sure! The fault is of those who just want priests and bishops to read the black and do the red, as the Magisterium (wrong spelling, Duh), always taught.
Bedwere, your concerns are excellent. Many of today’s top Church clerics, including Bp. McElroy, do not care much about our sacred liturgy. And they are busy destroying the Catholic Church, and replacing Christ’s teachings with their own agenda of promoting pet secular social causes, such as the gay agenda, a favorite social cause of McElroy. Bp. McElroy couldn’t care less about either the sacredness of the Eucharist, or the tragedy of abortion, and does not accept our Code of Canon Law. He downplays the horrific sin of abortion all the time, and stated publicly that he refuses to accept Abp. Cordileone’s ban on pro-abort Nancy Pelosi’s reception of Holy Communion– and wrongfully criticized Abp. Cordileone for this.
You need to read the black of the documents of Vatican II. Then do what they say.
Care about the liturgy? Vatican II reformed the liturgy. Read the black. It’s right there.
“bedwere”: if I may dare interject here, what “Duh” over there might be doing is calling you out on your error of assigning a most malicious intent on McElroy’s blessing his people out-of-sequence (by your calling it “contemptuous”) rather than giving him the benefit of the doubt, which is the more gracious, Christian, and reverential way to go. Yes, we all want bishops and priests to “do the red and say the black.” But to assign “contempt” to McElroy’s liturgical action that was out-of-sequence? If I may use a word that Pope Francis has used, you’re being rather “rigid” liturgically (at best), or contemptuous of your Bishop (at worst).
Give him a break! (Sarc…) He probably hasn’t performed Benediction in years (that is sooo old school).
Well, look at all the “Red Hats” in the College of Cardinals, who are all eligible to vote in the next Papal election! May God help us!
The church is corrupt. I’ve officially started leaning towards leaving, meaning odds are I’ll end up leaving rather than staying.
You thought the Church is a ferry between shores. You didn’t know it is a battleship that cannot sink though many boats alongside will go down. You’re in the Church militant. Report back to training.
For starters, the duty of the so-called women deacons in the early church was to administer to the women coming into the church (“the possibility of restoring the ministry of women”) not as we know the role of deacons today. As for “conservative” Gomez, well maybe not so much. Anyone check out the wRECk? If that’s conservative/orthodox than we’re in big trouble. Plus I’m hearing that he’s just a stooge and that Mahoney is still running the show. From what I’ve seen, I have no reason to doubt it.
Joan, remember the article is from the National Catholic Reporter. As you rightly noted, “restoring the ministry of women to the diaconate” isn’t really a possibility, or an accurate history. There are deaconesses who are Saints, but they weren’t deacons. Saint Phoebe of Rome, to name only one example. They did not receive the Sacrament of Holy Order(s); ordination to (major) orders at the hands of apostles or bishops (Acts 6:8). This is clearly seen in Orthodox texts of ordination (a term which did not always mean Holy Orders and included abbots, abbesses and even secular rulers). The “diaconal” ordination rites for women and men are different. And, if my understanding is correct, I would add that the deaconesses also ministered to women who were ill and imprisoned, including bringing Holy Communion to them. Restoring the office of deaconess, like the recent restoration of consecrated virginity, could be considered. But, I fear this time is too politicized to address that, without falling into argument about the ordination of women as deacons (and then priests).
Sean O’Malley is 77.
He will be retiring.
McElroy will go to Boston.
Maybe he can go to Boston now — to learn the ropes, so to speak. Honestly, we can get along without him. Although Bp. John Dolan would probably take his place, so not much improvement…
Jesus said not to be afraid. He built the church on rock solid values and will be with it to the end of time, The gates of hell WILL NOT prevail against it. He does not lie. Good and bad Popes and clergy have come and gone. We must all pray without ceasing in our homes, schools, work, in the streets for the crisis in the church today, and for all those unfaithful heretics and tools of satan who have infiltrated the Vatican, our Churches and governments. Heresies have happened in the past two thousand years, and will again be fought, disputed and removed by faithful defenders of church in our time.and by us, the laity. It is scary out there and all over the world, but hope is the lifeline that we must not lose, nor our trust in God’s supreme power to take charge of his church.
I was thrilled when I first heard the news. We finally are getting rid of him! But then I read that he’s staying in San Diego. He’s a disaster.
It seems doubtful that Bishop McElroy would stay much longer in San Diego, after being made a Cardinal. Seems that the Church leaders would have plans to make McElroy an Archbishop, and next, move him, as Cardinal-Archbishop, to leadership of a prominent American Archdiocese. What a shame!
All the men made cardinal by Pope Francis will eventually be declared null by the Catholic Church.
Why don’t you just say you are a BiPper? Benedict is pope? The only reason you think Pope Francis’s decisions would be declared null is if he isn’t the pope and thus doesn’t have the authority nor jurisdiction to appoint cardinals.
Just say it. What are you afraid of? Don’t be a coward, if you truly believe that.
But, for the record, Francis is pope, and BiPpers are schismatics.
Hmm… since when is San Diego a more important or prestigious city and see than Los Angeles or San Francisco? Archbishops Gomez and Cordileone must be humiliated.
McElroy is pro-gay, pro illegal immigration, pro Muslim, pro The Great Reset, says that climate change kills more people than abortion (?!).
He locked us out of our churches for a month during Covid, has taken away the Traditional Latin Mass in the only two churches in North San Diego County that celebrated this beautiful Mass. He is an evil man.
Of course, he has not supported Archbishop Cordileone in banning Holy Communion to the contemptible Nancy Pelosi.
McElroy has been coveting this Red Hat for a long time. My bet is that Cupich was behind this appointment. (Cupich’s comment about McElroy “being one of the best bishops in the US” was nauseating).
Sorry, but nothing that “Peggy” has written necessarily proves that McElroy is an “evil man.” Nothing. Rather, what McElroy’s elevation to the cardinalate is revealing is the gross lack of any charity and rationality among the detractors of the Holy Father and of the new Cardinal.
Exactly. This was a brilliant move by Pope Francis to prove that TLM Catholics are fomenting division in the Church and oppose Pope Francis. You TLM people want your TLM Masses back? Write a letter to Pope Francis thanking him for making McElroy a cardinal. That might show him you’re on his side.
Unless you’re not on his side, in which case he was right to suppress the TLM because it is causing division in the church.
I agree, Peggy. Our Church is corrupt, and needs a thorough house-cleaning, for Our Lord. Some people are too frightened to face this truth. McElroy is dangerous, deceptive, and untrustworthy– exactly like the corrupt Cardinal Mahony. McElroy tried to cover-up the crimes of Theodore McCarrick. He repeatedly refused to see Richard Sipe, the famous Catholic psychotherapist with numerous cases of victims of McCarrick’s sex abuse. Evil.
Non-sequiturs, words, accusations, calumnies. Where is the heart in your words? Where is the charity to sinners?
Where is your Christ-like heart and manly courage to keep our churches safe from evil, such as clergy child rapists– and their evil religious superiors, who know, lie about, and cover-up their heinous crimes?
Without love in your heart for all clergy especially those who have sinned, all of your words are merely “a resounding gong or a clashing cymbal” (1 Corinthians 13). Just a waste of words. Open your heart to sinners. Have compassion to priests and bishops who have sinned. Love.
Christian Love means to have the manly courage and honesty to always stand up for what is right— with a good moral conscience.
“Standing up for what is right” (such as by condemning the cover-up of abuse) is worthless if a person is not doing so out of love for the guilty as much as for the victim. Having a “good moral conscience” means nothing if your words and actions upholding what is morally good do not come from love, from the heart. Even if you “manfully” give away everything you own, even if you “courageously” hand over your own life for what is good, even if you type the most “honest” words here about the heinous crimes against children, but if you have no love in your heart, all that you have done is vain, empty (1Corinthians 13). Where’s the love in your words and in your heart for the sinner, for the priests who have sinned, for the bishops who have covered up crimes?
“Where’s the love in your words and in your heart for the sinner, for the priests who have sinned, for the bishops who have covered up crimes?” From child molesters to those who sold out the Faithful underground Catholic Church in China, jon will always defend the miter and collar no matter how guilty they are.
All your words bohemond are meaningless if you have no love in your heart for your fellow Catholics who have sinned greatly either clergy or lay. Where is the love in your words? Where is the first and most important theological virtue in your heart?
“All your words bohemond are meaningless if you have no love in your heart for your fellow Catholics who have sinned greatly either clergy or lay. Where is the love in your words? Where is the first and most important theological virtue in your heart?”…do you throw pearls to swine?
Or why does the pot call the kettle black?
where’s the ecclesial air-sickness bag?
In the pocket in front of every seat at your nearby TLM.
Wow. Is there any story you won’t twist into something about the TLM? You should see a therapist about your obsession. Whether for or against or in-between, not everything in the world revolves around the TLM.
It either arrived in your mail or is in a pew at your parish. It’s the envelope for the annual diocesan/bishop’s appeal. If you have a bishop that makes you sick, utilize the bag and return it (and the contents) to your chancery. If you have a Happy Talk Bishop, then sit back, relax and enjoy your flight. Fighter pilots simply don’t understand. We don’t want to “weaponize” the flight (only the college of cardinals). We’re American Catholic Airlines, doing what we do best.
Gomez might get the Red Hat someday — he is liberal. Cordileone, never — under PF. Would love to see Pope Cordileone.
Pope Cordileone? Wonderful idea!
Infiltration is right. Taylor Marshall wrote all about it. Fear not loyal Catholics they can never destroy the TLM, yes they have tried for 60 years and yet it is still here.
You would be wise not to listen to Taylor Marshall.
You might learn a lot if you would you eyes and what going on in our church and listen to Taylor Marshall
But do please use Taylor guitars and Marshall amplifiers-they ROCK!
An ecclesial Pearl Harbor!
I’m so sorry. my condolences
I am not a fan of Bishop Robert McElroy.
Only two of the 54 commentors ahead of me made statements of support for Bishop McElroy.
Bishop McElroy is a clone and an echo of Cardinal Archbishop Blase Cupich of Chicago. As such Bishop McElroy is fully aware of the happenings of former Cardinal Theodore McCarrick.
San Diego is not a Cardinal See. Where will Bishop McElroy wind up.
To those that say Boston, it could happen. in 2019 Pope Francis paired Boston’s Cardinal O’Malley and Bishop McElroy and sent them off, as the only two U.S. Bishops, to the Amazon Synod. I viewed it as an intention of Pope Francis to Promote Bishop McElroy to Boston, but not until Cardinal O’Malley reached 80 years of age.
According to my family members in Boston, Cardinal O’Malley seems to be good health and is not clamoring to leave office.
Since Cardinal O’Malley’s 78 Birthday is in late June it doesn’t match up to the date of the new red hats, I feel something is amiss.
I feel that Bishop McElroy is getting the Red Hat two years earlier, so he can replace Cardinal Cupich in Chicago.
I surmise this due to Cardinal Cupich and Bishop McElroy’s association. Also, it has been rumored that Cardinal Cupich will be called to Rome.
Either way, Cardinal Cupich’s influence with Pope Francis had plenty do in advancing Bishop McElroy to the Cardinalate.
My across-the-board bet is Chicago – Boston – Rome
We will see.
At one time, many respected the thoughts and comments of Dr. Taylor Marshall. However, he has said erroneous things. Unfortunately, Dr. Marshall is not always entirely direct in stating his opinion(s), but you can read (and listen to) for yourself some of his very questionable, and even erroneous, apparent assertions. Pope Francis is the pope. Read Church history. Some Popes are better than others. Jesus is the Head of the Church.
On February 7, 2022, Marshall, after accusing Pope Francis of heresy, wrote on Twitter that “A ‘heretical pope’ ipso facto loses the papacy.”
A Pope’s remarks during a Wednesday papal audience or to reporters on an airplane are not papal teachings.
Check this out yourself:
And, pray that Dr. Marshall will use his gifts in and for the Church and stay in the fight for the renewal of the Church.
Who does not say erroneous things at times? Taylor Marshall is only questioning things that many of us are questioning. He has small children whom he has to protect from grooming and molestation. I think he is a good father all and all. The same with Jesse Romero and many others who use their brains and questions things that are not right.
BTW, “a former Taylor Marshall fan”, I do not think I was the one who gave you the thumbs down. If I did, I meant to leave it blank as much of what you say is good. We all need to be careful that we have the facts before we speak or write.
breaking news out of San Diego:
Cardinal-elect McElroy is proposing
an exciting change for the the Church,
in over 2000 years – a brand new, EIGHTH sacrament;
it has something to do with solar panels!
Been a long time since you posted here, Ben. Welcome back.
I return from my Memorial Day weekend trip and read about this happening? What the fresh hell is going on?
I have been asked to sign petitions requesting that the Vatican not make McElroy a Cardinal. This is because McElroy repeatedly ignored the attempts of famous psychotherapist Richard Sipe, when he tried to inform McElroy of the dangers of then-Cardinal Theodore McCarrick. Sipe had interviewed numerous clients who suffered from sex abuse by McCarrick. The latest petition that I signed, was from LifeSite News. What a tragedy. How can our Church ever be cleaned of massive corruption?
If we lived in just times McElroy would be in pelican bay
Now Cardinal Cupich has been named to the Dicastery for Divine Worship.
Traditionis Custodes is winning.
And it will be resisted none the Less.. the ladies in miters will lose…
Robert McElroy led the priestly opposition to Archbishop Cordileone’s appointment to Star of the Sea Parish of Father Illo the Great. His objection was that there already was a Latin Mass in SF. He lost that one fight, but Francis named McElroy to San Diego shortly after.
In that case McElroy was prescient because Latin Masses are supposed to be reduced, not expanded. Read Traditionis.
What is the obsession some people have with designating their personal heroes with the “Great” moniker? You don’t get to decide that.
I’d say McElroy was vindicated by Pope Francis. Cordileone is supposed to be phasing out the TLMs.
TC wil be ignored, sorry liberals we are going to take a page from your playbook. We will ignore Rome.
McElroy also condemns Abp. Cordileone for his correct discipline of Nancy Pelosi. He and many in Rome, are corrupt– not true Catholics, nor Christians. Abp. Cordileone is excellent, a true Catholic cleric, very responsible to Christ. Other clerics are frauds.
No, Gratias. McElroy’s true objection is that he loves and promotes mostly the LGBT agenda–not the true Catholic Faith. McElroy is very similar to Fr. James Martin, S.J. “Traditionis Custodes,” like “Amoris Laetitia,” is extremely controversial. Neither one represents formal Church teaching.
But Sacrosanctum Concilium is a Constitution from Vatican II. It has the highest teaching authority possible in the Church. And it mandated a reform of the 1962 Missal. All Traditionis Custodes is doing is saying that Roman Catholics need to accept liturgical reform mandated by Vatican II.
Isn’t it a shame, that most clergy, including the Pope, ignores the excellent “Sacrosanctum Concilium?”
“All Traditionis Custodes is doing is saying that Roman Catholics need to accept liturgical reform mandated by Vatican II.” If I may beg to differ with you, it seems to me that TC is saying that the legacy of JP II and Benedict XVI is null and void, for that seems to be the larger picture the Jesuits have in mind for the Church.
do you mean the body of water
the state prison?
If the body of water, do you mean
at the top or at the bottom?
TY—-you made depressed me laugh out loud
The Choice is yours – both options are acceptable
“jon” Some clergy sins were crimes of the highest order against humanity, namely our own children. The co-criminals were their bishops who covered for those priests and sent them from parish to parish to sin again.
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