Bishop Anthony Taylor of Little Rock warns his priests they should not endorse a parishioner’s request for a religious exemption from Covid vaccination requirements, because “signing off on such a ‘religious exemption’ would indicate your support for the proposition that the Catholic Church teaches that receiving the vaccine is fundamentally immoral and impermissible.”
But isn’t there an obvious way out of that problem? The priest could write:
“The Catholic Church does not teach that receiving the vaccine is fundamentally immoral and impermissible.”
That would seem to satisfy the bishop’s concern, wouldn’t it? But the priest might then go on to say:
“However, the Church does teach that one must not violate one’s own conscience, and my parishioner, X, believes that he cannot in good conscience take the vaccine.”
In fact, in his full statement on the matter, Bishop Taylor makes that point himself, acknowledging of those who seek a religious exemption, “It may be that their conscience (well-formed or not) is telling them not to get vaccinated, and their consciences are obviously inviolable.” Exactly!
Nevertheless, in the very next sentence, Bishop Taylor continues: “But their religion is not telling them not to get vaccinated.”
Excuse me, but I’m lost. My religion — as represented here by the authority of my bishop, if I live in the Little Rock diocese — tells me that I cannot violate my conscience. If my conscience tells me that I cannot take the vaccine, then, doesn’t my religion tell me that I cannot take the vaccine? No one is suggesting that the Catholic Church bars everyone from vaccination; I am only saying (if I am seeking an exemption) that the Church tells me not to be vaccinated.
Bishop Taylor distinguishes between a “religious exemption” and a “conscientious objection.” The former is not available to Catholics, he concludes, but the latter option is still open. Not so in Chicago, where Cardinal Blase Cupich requires vaccination for all priests and employees, and threatens disciplinary action against those who resist, saying that they are guilty of “a rejection of the Church’s authentic moral teaching regarding Covid vaccines.”
Just a moment, please. For an authoritative expression of “the Church’s authentic moral teaching regarding Covid vaccines,” Cardinal Cupich points to the statement from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith—which says:
“At the same time, practical reason makes evident that vaccination is not, as a rule, a moral obligation and that, therefore, it must be voluntary.”
Thus Cardinal Cupich makes vaccination mandatory — citing the authority of a document that says vaccination must be voluntary.
And there is yet another important point in the CDF statement, which has been almost completely ignored by the prelates who promote vaccination. The note from the Vatican stresses that the use of abortion-tainted vaccines is morally objectionable. The use of such vaccines may be morally justifiable “if there is a grave danger,” the CDF teaches, but such use “does not in itself constitute a legitimation, even indirect, of the practice of abortion, and necessarily assumes the opposition to this practice by those who make use of these vaccines.”
The above comes from an Aug. 25 posting by Phil Lawler on CatholicCulture.org.
With a clear conscience, Catholics can reject the abortion tainted vaxx and the bullies trying to force it on them, even if they wear a mitre. No Mask, No vaxx, No regrets.
Why no mask though? Are masks abortion tainted? Or can you just not be bothered to save lives?
Masks ae a symbol of submission to the political agenda of people like you who want to virtue shame us. Nonsense that you assume we take lives by exerting autonomy over our own. Unlike participants in abortion tainted shots, we do not have blood on our hands.
Masks are not a symbol of anything. They are a layer of protection, that is all.
This is not conscience; this is pride.
sig, I agree! Bless you. The Pope is right!
Masks, including the N95, have no ability to protect anyone besides the wearer (as the seal is broken upon exhalation), which completely shoots down any argument against any mandate that they be worn. With an aerosolized virus, everyone who can get infected, will get infected eventually. The fact that a significant percentage of wild animals have gotten the virus proves this.
Ask Pelosi why no masks at her latest Napa fundraiser. She demands our compliance but does not extend the rule to herself. She certainly does not care about abortion taint.
Enjoy the link:
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/tucker-carlson-talks-mask-mandate-resistance-pelosis-mask-theater/?utm_source=top_news&utm_campaign=usa
Some people do not want to wear masks because they have already had COVID, which makes sense. I suggest that people who have not had COVID nor a vaccine do wear masks when necessary to help lower risks to themselves and others. Children wearing masks too long can be unhealthy as they usually get them very dirty, and clean fresh air is important for their growth. Contamination outdoors in the sunshine is highly unlikely as sunlight is a natural disinfectant, but distancing somewhat from non family or household members is a good idea. Helps keep away all viruses.
“ Why no mask though?”
I’m allergic to BS.
YFC, here’s a better reason for not wearing a mask:
A Group Of Parents Sent Their Kids’ Face Masks to A Lab for Analysis. Here’s What They Found
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/scottmorefield/2021/06/15/a-group-of-parents-sent-their-kids-face-masks-to-a-lab-for-analysis-heres-what-they-found-n2591047
I have the Pdf’s from Pfizer and Moderna. They both contain something by names that concern me. In Moderna there is some type of ingredient labeled, 0.666, and in Pfizer it’s Luciferian. The number 666 is in Revelations, and Lucifer, as we all know, was Gods favorite angel. Now nobody knows what these are and the drug companies have not disclosed what they are. When you look at the big picture, we have all been deceived on many things, and the pharmaceutical companies have not been transparent.
They have shut people off, don’t talk about it, don’t question it, and they advertise everywhere it. This raises red flags everywhere for me.
Revelation…It’s the Book of Revelation….
Cupich isn’t making it mandatory. He is simply saying that if you volunteer to not get vaccinated you can’t work here until the pandemic is over for the sake of the health of his entire flock. If you’re conscience tells you do this or shun that, you should listen to your conscience but know that decisions have consequences. It’s called the way of the cross for a reason. Following conscience isn’t a get out of jail free card. It is a path that leads directly to the cross.
Wrapping up all the Cupich bullying with a big Catholic bow does make his bullying any more acceptable.
All choices have consequences, some weak people are just too scared to make the harder, moral choice to reject a vaxx developed by using dead babies.
Stop playing the victim. You are not being bullied. Do you even live in Chicago?
Pfizer and Moderna were not developed using dead babies.
You can take those with a clear conscience.
The point is that I refuse to be a victim.
The point is that people die because of your persecution complex
People die from lots of things that have nothing to do with me refusing to wear your symbol of submission. Such nonsense hurled at people who do not share your culture of fear, your charges are rejected in their entirety.
A reminder: submission is a Catholic value. Freedom is not.
You do want to submit to the Lord and those that he gave you to submit to.
Husband (hardest), Church, state,-in all things but sin.
If you are scrupulous and do not want to take the vaccine, no one is forcing you to.
Wearing a mask is not a sin. No one is forcing you to.
If you are an employee, you are to submit to your employer. Not in sin, again.
An aside, when Kamala and Pelosi took their masks off and hugged, I thought “How irresponsible.”
When Trump took his off, he had recovered from the virus. He knew he was not going to infect anyone.
Other lawmakers do not wear masks.
Who is it you are afraid of submitting to?
I pray for your safety and safely of all those you love. Please keep posting so I know you are OK.
Sig, submission to unelected “experts” is idiocy and not in the same league with Church dogma. Your attempt at Catholic virtue shaming is a fail.
You’re uninformed.
The Moderna “Safety; Data Sheet” says the product contains SM-102 which is “For research use only, not for human or veterinary use.”:
Lovely, you may have been mislead by the information on SM-102. Here is a full explanation that might help you get over your fear of this vaccine and become a pro-life Catholic.
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-sm102-moderna/fact-check-sm-102-lipid-in-moderna-covid-19-vaccine-is-not-harmful-idUSL2N2NE20S
YFC, being a pro life Catholic also means rejecting same sex so called marriage. Do you reject this assault on the family?
@Tyler:
YFC will not reject homosexual anything. Other commenters on this site have tried to get him/her to do it, and he/she won’t.
Good luck trying.
A well formed conscience, Phil, one must not violate their well formed conscience. A Jehovah’s Witness could respect his conscience and not receive a blood transfusion and die, leaving spouse and children, but it would not have been a laudable thing to do as his conscience on the matter was very poorly formed.
Not saying anyone that refuses the vaccine is doing so with a poorly formed conscience, but if that will be the basis for refusal, it’d be worth serious examination and introspection.
There is a difference between conscience and pride.
The Church has said there is no moral problem with taking the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine. If you do not have a choice, you can take the J&J vaccine.
Lots of pride in those mitres trying to subvert my conscience.
This is just plain ridiculous. The hair splitting rhetoric is abominable. The Holy Father, Pope Francis, recently released a video message in which he states “getting the vaccine is an act of love.” I’ll go with is guidance.
Website does not let me thumbs up this.
Betty, I totally agree with you.
Recently, an unvaccinated elementary schoolteacher in Marin County, who also would not wear a mask nor practice social distancing, went to school with what she thought was only a case of “allergies,” that was actually Coronavirus. Within a day or two, she ended up infecting a total of 26 people at the school, including 22 young elementary students, with COVID-19. They all are now sick, and at home. The kids are too young to receive the COVID-19 vaccination. I agree firmly with the Pope.
This canon lawyer lays it all out splendidly and cogently:
https://canonlawmadeeasy.com/2021/08/26/can-church-officials-require-us-to-get-vaccinated/
Do not get the clot shot, even if your bishop says you should or have to to work for him.
I recall when the polio vaccine was developed and administered to millions of people. Schoolchildren lined up for the “miracle” vaccine. I also recall children for whom the vaccine came too late. There was one tragic case I will never forget. The beautiful, talented daughter of a fine Ballet teacher– whom my sister studied with– got polio, and her future as an aspiring young ballerina, like her mother, was cut short forever. If only the “miracle” vaccine had come out sooner, and she could have taken it. Of course, in America, freedom of conscience is upheld for all. This family was Catholic, and had no peculiar objections to taking vaccines, or anything else offered by Modern Medicine. It was a heartbreak to see this highly gifted, lovely young girl’s life so ruined. My sister was gifted too, and went on to study at the SF Ballet Conservatory.
Was her life totally ruined? Was she totally incapacitated? I have a relative who has a lame leg from polio, but she has had a fairly good life with a loyal husband, and children and grandchildren. I probably did not get polio before the polio sugar cubes came out as my grandmother would not let the doctor remove my tonsils. It was found later that those who still had their tonsils, did not get polio or got it lightly. One never know when doctors are right or wrong on some things. Best to look at all sides of an issue. That is one reason we need at least a second opinion on medical issues.
Anne TE– polio is a very serious disease. I believe it is now eradicated in the West, due to the Salk vaccine. Do not minimize the terrible impact of such a disease. A long time ago, Ballet dancers who tragically got polio, never danced again. Ballet is a very serious art. Yes, this gifted girl’s Ballet career was permanently ended. A heartbreak.
I was not making light of polio. One point I was making is that if doctors had not been taking out children’s tonsils routinely, more children might not have gotten polio or got a lighter case before the vaccine. Sometimes what we want will be worse for us in the end. If she had a good life in spite of polio is important. Michael Flatly, the Irish dancer, did not listen to doctors who told him to stop dancing because it was harming him, and in his fifties he could barely move any move. We do not know why God allows things. He knows the future; we do not.
Oh the drama. We need to return to basic high school biology and remember the scientific facts. Covid 19 is extinct. The evidence…delta variant. There are plenty of peer reviewed studies showing by in large masks don’t prevent spread/infection but do cause myriad other health problems. Even N95 only protects to 3microns. Covid is 1 micron. More died of bacterial pneumonia during the Spanish flu due to masks than died of the Spanish flu. This virus and all its variants are here forever now. Everyone will die in God’s time and not one second longer, mask or no mask. Jesus I trust in you!
Granny you really do need to go back to school because what you are saying is completely wrong.
The granny, Covid 19 is not extinct. Covid 19 is a disease caused by Sars-CoV-2 virus, which is not extinct either. Viruses mutate. Their mutations are called variants. There are several variants currently in US and around the world. The delta is more transmissible and causes more infections. It is unknown yet how bad those infections will be compared with other variants.
Masks + social distancing cut down on spread of virus better than masks alone and distancing alone.
Bacterial infections did cause more deaths but I see nothing that says it is from wearing masks. 20 years ago there was a bad strain of flu going around and we were told that if you got better and then got worse again, get to the doctor for antibiotics because it was a bacterial pneumonia that follows the flu.
You are correct that we all are going to die and that God already knows when, how and where. He knows if you will die because of an accident, negligence of your health, foul play, suicide etc.
You can die even if you are vaccinated and wear masks, but if you, do then you know it was God’s time.
Jesus I trust in you. I thank you for the vaccines and the masks and the knowledge You gave to mankind to develop them and the wisdom you give to us to use them.
Be careful, Granny,
Speaking the truth will trigger all the liberals and COVID zombies, causing them to convulse and become hysterical like demons.
YFC people don’t die because of a persecution complexes they die because they contracted the virus. The virus kills. Not someone’s thoughts. That’s fear mongering and it is not loving or Christian. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself. smh…Pfizer and modern a are abortion tainted because fetal cell lines were used in development and testing thus making them morally objectionable.
Right I forgot. It’s the bullet that kills, not the person who pulls the trigger.
The Granny, a great post but FYI, the virus is 99+% curable with Ivermectin, hysroxy, etc.
99% you are 100% wrong.
The virus is not 99+% curable from anything right now. Of more than 35,000,000 cases of COVID in the US since the beginning of the pandemic, over 600,000 people have died, for a death rate of 1.6%.
And as to ivermectin, not only is there no clinical data supporting the claim that ivermectin “cures” COVID, but the one study that purported its effectiveness has been thoroughly debunked and has been withdrawn for plagiarism and abuse of the raw data. https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/93658
Not only that, but people are showing up with ivermectin poisoning. A lot of people. So much so that public health authorities are begging people to not take it. The CDC is very blunt about it: https://www.livescience.com/ivermectin-warning-cdc.html
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99% you think you cure a virus?
As far as I know, hep C is the only virus that there is a cure for?
How would a de-worming medicine cure a virus?
Think-Use your noggin.
I’ve had Covid, and my immediate family has also, so I have no intention of letting any politician or prelate bully me into a fraudulent vax. And guess what, I have better immunity than anyone who got this fake shot.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/ends-debate-israeli-study-shows-natural-immunity-13x-more-effective-vaccines-stopping
Amen!
Bravo. And for the naysayers who post here, TW’s response is Not based in fear but common sense and true information. You fake shot fans cannot make everyone believe as you do, show respect for a different approach.
TW I’m glad you and your family recovered and you likely do have decent immunity now. However, getting the vaccine after exposure is also known to boost your immunity even higher. But I do respect your decision, since it is based on science and a reasonable hope that you and those around you are safe.
TW, you can get it more than once. You can get it worse the second or third time.
Not telling you to get the vax. Just telling you to keep up safely protocols.
My area was doing well then they had a concert.
Now it is as bad as it ever was or worse.
In fact 99%, according to Dr. Marty McCary, professor at John’s Hopkins University Medical School, 48,000 cases of covid in healthy kids had zero deaths for a zero mortality rate. According to the Federal Center for disease and prevention 0.673 deaths in children ages 0-17 for the 1.5 years of the pandemic. That’s 335 deaths of kids out of total 49,725 from all causes. And as you mentioned there are effective treatments, when administered correctly in non-lethal doses which eliminates need for the injectable gene therapy. YFC it’s good to see you finally getting it, applying logic instead of agitprop double speak.
Covid vaccines are not injectable gene therapy.
There is an epidemic of misinformation.
Only the devil can be putting out this many lies this fast. Not meaning you, granny, just in general.
YFC you failed to cite the peer reviewed ‘science’ which validates your claim and I quote “ getting the vaccine after exposure is also known to boost your immunity even higher.” Please provide your source (s).
According to Dr. Peter McCollough, cardiologist/internist/epidemiologist, president of the cardiorenal society, editor of 2 peer reviewed journals, taught at Texas A&M medical school and sees corona virus patients directly, natural immunity is “robust, permanent and durable”. Initially he was pro- injection and gave the gene therapy to 70% of his patient population. He no longer recommends for anyone. He also recommends mono-clinic anti-bodies,available in hospitals and urgent care, and early treatment with anti-inflammatory and blood thinning medications with hydroxychloriquine or ivermectin with the anti-immflammatory and blood thinners being the most important. He is currently seeing loads of patients with permanent heart damage from the injection. His words not mine.
The granny, our cardiologist told us today that of all the people on ventilators in the hospitals where he has privileges (over 50) only 1 of them was vaccinated. The rest were not vaccinated.
Dr. Peter McCollough is being sued by a hospital he used to work at for using their name as he spreads his Covid 19 misinformation.
You seem to be cherry-picking information to spread mis-information.
Someone could die because of this.
There are a lot of people who were vaccine hesitant or refused a vaccine who are dead now.
There are a lot of people who died before a vaccine was available.
I forgot to mention Dr McCollough is cited in 650 peer reviewed journal articles, and has testified before Congress as an expert. I think he has some street cred YFC don’t you?
Granny, I just heard of two people who died because the ICU beds were full- so take a bow and then please exit the stage.
2? I heard it was 22. Maybe it was 122?
Maybe it was a million 22. Fake numbers abound in this politically charged atmosphere.
I said this, don’t know why it’s anonymous sorry
smh you don’t scare me. Dr McCoullough was introduced on a show. The host misused his prior affiliation with Baylor in the intro. Dr. McCullough immediately corrected him. Now Baylor, et., all is suing but it’s recorded and I heard it. They won’t win but the cost of lawfare is one way to silence truth and cancel people. If you want to be part of the experiment go ahead. If the vaccine works you have nothing to fear from the unvaxxed. Jesus I trust in you.
The granny, well, forgive me for caring about someone other than myself. I sincerely hope you and all the others who do not get vaccinated do not get sick.
You can always trust Jesus because we are His in life and in death.
As you pointed out, Jesus already knows how our life in this world will end and where we are going in the next world. In real time, we must pray for each other.
I pray to Him for your holiness and health and for everybody’s.
Please pray for all Covid patients to recover fully, especially those who have organ failure.
Pray for those who have secondary infections to be completely healed.
Pray especially for those on ventilators that they will survive and heal.
Pray for those who have brain damage from low oxygen that their brains and other organs may heal by a miracle.
Pray for those who can never go home again.
Pray for the conversion of any Covid patients who do not know Jesus.
Pray for protection for priests, ministers, doctors, nurses, technicians, room cleaners etc.
Pray for strength and help for their families and friends.
Pray especially for the survival and healing of the young.
Pray for no more spread of Covid, no more Covid deaths.
Pray for mercy for us and for the whole world.
And Praise to God for hearing our prayers for Cardinal Burke.
https://www.cardinalburke.com/presentations/letter-of-gratitude
I’m a front-line medical worker, and since 1978 have received more hours of training on infection control, and specifically viral infection control than I care to even try to remember. Consistently throughout all those years it has been hammered into us that viruses are very small, much smaller than bacteria and other pathogens, and only the highest levels of PPE and respiratory protection are in any way effective at preventing viral infection. Whether you are wearing a simple dust mask, or a higher end N95 mask, or an old scrap of T-Shirt with some ear loops sew on it makes no difference, nor does the holy and sacred divination of 6 feet of separation between individuals, none of those actions makes any difference nor do they prevent the spread of the Covid-19 infection. The message is clear: Be afraid. Be very afraid. Be so afraid that you will passively if not willingly submit to whatever indignity or assault on your freedoms, rights. Psychological or financial well-being your overlords demand.