The Catholic LGBT of Palm Springs will be an official entry in the Greater Palm Springs Greater Pride Parade on Sunday, November 9, 2014.
Father John Kavcak of Saint Theresa Parish and formerly of Our Lady of Solitude Parish has stated, “For several months we have been reaching out to the Catholic LGBT community here in Palm Springs. Using as a basis, the spirituality of a Franciscan retreat program, members of this group decided to make their presence known—–. They will be marching in this year’s Pride Parade on November 9th.”
Father Kavcak, as pastor of Our Lady of Solitude in Palm Springs, contracted with Hollywood producer Jerry Weintraub, to film part of the movie, Behind the Candelabra, in the church. Father Kavcak was listed in the movie credits because he played the role of a priest giving a funeral Mass for Liberace who had a sexual affair with a very young 18 year old man named Scott Thorson.
The Greater Palm Springs Pride Parade will be kicked off with a Broadway in Drag Pageant. “A bevy of beautiful female impersonators will delight”., according to the promotions. The events include Mr. Palm Springs Leather Contest, Fetish Victory Dance and a clothing optional Pool Party/BBQ.. The grand marshall is a transgendered man. The main event is a promotion of Equality Marriage.
It’s so great to read that Catholic parishes are remembering to consciously include the LGBT community. Seeing a Catholic LGBT contingent in the parade will be a helpful reminder to gays and lesbians of Palm Springs that they can be people of faith. By the same token, it’s also a good reminder for Catholics to remember that too.
Strange choice of picture, though, as that is not a photo of a Catholic group in the parade. I doubt the parishioners will be nearly so sculpted! (I hope those guys were wearing sun screen.)
“St. Peter”: Is this satire? There should never, ever, be any Catholic recognition, or positive statement of any kind, regarding “pride” in being a homosexual.
And, why is this? Well, for starters, homosexuals practice sodomy, which is prohibited as a moral sexual activity. No one believes — except bloviating Cardinal Dolan — that homosexuals take part in a “pride” parade to show that they are “homosexually inclined”. Nope, they do this to rub everyone’s nose in the fact that they have sodomy, will continue to have sodomy, want you to accept that they are having and will have sodomy, and demand that everyone celebrate the fact that they are sodomites.
The Catholic world, except for apostates like Fr. Kavcak, is inconsistent to any expression of homosexual sexual expression. Every time any valid priest is around anything that celebrates homosexuality, he must try to discuss with them why what they do is mortally sinful, invite them to the Church to discuss confession and why they need it, and, if they agree, give them freedom from their sins.
Of course, Catholic clergy, in large part, does not do this, but praises — “bravo” said Cardinal Chuckles-Bravo — any coming out, and “faithful” homosexual partnering. Why not have such devotion to adulterers? Or fornicators, generally? Aside from the fact that many priests are probably revolted by straight sex, they seem to want only to praise their own kind.
Well, St. Christopher,
Should priests also be required to tell every fat person who comes to church about the sinfulness of gluttony, and tell them they need to reform before they are worthy to receive communion?
What is the rule of thumb to consider someone a glutton? Should communion be denied to everyone that is 40lb overweight? Should we have weigh-ins to qualifiy to receive communion?
What about masturbators? Should priests remind everyone regularly from the pulpit that masturbation is serious sin, and they you should not receive communion if you have masturbated since your last confession?
What about a questionaire that we issue before mass,listing all of the sins that would make you unworthy before receiving communion?
“…Should priests remind everyone regularly from the pulpit that masturbation is serious sin, and they you should not receive communion if you have masturbated since your last confession?”
If there is a problem with this in the parish – YES. If there are folks showing up to mass with Masturbation Pride rainbow stickers, YES.
And if one is eating to the point of it being a mortal sin, YES, these sins need to be mentioned from the pulpit. That is if the eating problem has become a threat to the person’s soul by way of mortal sin, Jon.
You seem to believe the only focus is on sexual sin. The focus is avoiding all mortal sin. Or it should be….
God bless
We just voted on a sugary beverage tax in San Francisco and Berkeley because so many of our people are obese and diabetic. Perhaps there should be more sermons on gluttony, and not taking care of the temple of one’s body? Maybe Archbishop Cordileone should go to Washington and hold rallies about the sin of feeding yourself to the point of unhealth? Mastery of one’s desires and all that.
I like the idea of an examination of conscience that is handed out at Mass.
II. “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.”
Have I committed blasphemy by using the name of God and Jesus Christ to swear rather than to praise? Have I committed sacrilege by showing disrespect to holy objects (crucifix, rosary) or contempt for religious persons (bishop, priests, deacons, women religious) or for sacred places (in Church). Have I committed sacrilege by going to Holy Communion in the state of mortal sin without first going to confession e.g., after missing Mass on Sunday or a Holyday? Did I violate the one-hour fast before Communion? Did I break the laws of fast and abstinence during Lent? Did I neglect my Easter duty to receive Holy Communion at least once? Have I neglected to support the Church and the poor by sharing my time, talent and treasure?
VIII. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
Have I told a lie in order to deceive someone? Have I told the truth with the purpose and intention of ruining someone’s reputation (sin of detraction)? Have I told a lie or spread rumors which may ruin someone’s reputation (sin of calumny or slander)? Did I commit perjury by false swearing an oath on the Bible? Am I a busybody or do I love to spread gossip and secrets about others? Do I love to hear bad news about my enemies?
JonJ: “Fat” people and masturbators are NOT out participating in parades trying to get society to accept their mortal sins. They are NOT out in the media shoving their acceptance of their mortal sins down people’s throats!! Stop making excuses for the mortal sins of ACTIVE homosexuals!!
When I see that photo It almost makes me glad that we might not be welcoming. I have a big enough problem with those that wear beach clothes to Mass. The photo makes me ill and makes me have a hard time finding sympathy for their cause. It’s all about sin and debauchery. Do those people actually look like they want to come to church and get closer to the Lord. I don’t think so.
This priest is no “Fool for Christ”.
Practicing homosexuals who are unrepentant of their Mortal Sin of SODOMY will spend eternity in HELL.
Please pray for them that the HOLY SPIRIT will come upon them and they will truly accept our LORD in the hearts. When you are in love with JESUS you don’t want to hurt them I would suggest all HOMOSEXUALS go watch the PASSION OF CHRIST knowing that our Lord was crucified upon un-recognition ! know go and do whatever you want in life and JESUS that you don’t care what HE suffered for YOU !! HIS UNCONDITIONAL LOVE is there for us all,, HE IS WORTHY OF OUR LOVE AND FAITHFULNESS.. REPENT HE SAYS OVER AND OVER REPENT.. That means STOP SINNING !!! STOP MORTAL SIN !!!!!!!
What about gluttony Ted?
Is not cigarette smoking a form of gluttony as well as drug addiction.
So let’s come up with a list of who is unworthy to dine with Christ until they get their serious sins under control:
Sodomites.
Transsexuals, need to surgically return to their birth sex before we can welcome them at the thanksgiving table or communion.
Fat people, obvioulsy need to get their weight under control or go far enough into a diet that we know they’ve repented.
Cigarette smokers are unwelcome until they go on the patch or stop smoking for some period of time.
Drug addicts: again, have to stop drugs or be in a drug rehab program.
Maturbators need to curb their lust.
People who view Pornography are of course, unworthy. Pornography users need to throw out all of their porno before they dare approach the Lord’s table.
People who engage in unnatural sex acts: they need to get rid of all their sex toys and stop any sexual practice that cannot result in procreation.
Greedy people need to divest themselves of their hoard of money before they are worthy to approach God. How much is too much? Should anyone with assests over 10 million be forced to divest themselves of their money before dining with Christ?
Habitual liars and defrauders need to stop lying. I guess used car salesmen, politicians, and Pizza Magnates (who lie about the quality of their law schools), need to quit their jobs and stop telling their lies before they are worthy to approach christ.
Bullies and abusers aren’t worthy of approaching christ either. That means people who beat their children, or enjoy bullying others, cannot approach christ. This includes people who go out of their way to physically and verbally abuse homosexuals—which means alot of people on CCD should not be approaching christ.
Catholic LGBT is the oxymoron of the century!
What demon has possessed those in the Church post Vatican II? How can you be a child of Christ, yet do the works of the devil? The answer is you can’t. The Lord has called for us to be holy, as He is Holy. And yet, the clergy and the laity encourage this kind of debachery. Apostasy rears its ugly and satanic head once again! And to think, this will only get worse before the return of Our Lord. Satan demands the destruction of man, and it is beyond tragic that those who are entrusted with the Bride of Christ cooperate with the evil one. St. Michael, defend us against the assaults of the devil and his wicked angels. +JMJ+
” How can you be a child of Christ, yet do the works of the devil? The answer is you can’t. ”
That is absolutely right Clinton R.!
Please read the entire article written by Juan Manuel de Prada. It is excellent. I copied a paragraph below. Also we see from the plotters at the Synod why many of these kinds of local works of the devil are being allowed to take place.
Taken from Rorate Caeli
Un lío sinodal – A Synodal Mess, by Juan Manuel de Prada
https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2014/11/un-lio-sinodal-synodal-mess-by-juan.html#more
“Considering that all persons, as God’s creatures, have valuable gifts and qualities, what is the reason for this special mention of homosexuals? Is it implied that, by the sole fact of their being so, they are more gifted and qualified than the rest of mortals? Is it intended to affirm that, by being a homosexual, a person is freed from being envious, proud, vulgar, boring, an idiot, or completely stupid? Such a nonsensical and sophistic wording, so mellifluous and corrupt, reveals only a foolish eagerness, as that of a little puppy wagging its tail, to praise servilely the mindset of our age, to burn incense to Caesar; and, additionally, it dodges, in a very soft and pusillanimous way, the call to conversion of Christ — who undoubtedly saw extremely valuable gifts and qualities in the adulterous woman, to whom he said nonetheless: “Sin no more.”
It is certainly correct that all persons, as God’s creatures, have valuable gifts and qualities, gay people no more so nor less so than anybody else. The reason that it requires special mention is that this simple fact is so often overshadowed by the Church’s obsession with the sexual orientation of the gay person by the Church. One simple example of this is the exclusion of gay people from the priesthood, the exclusion of the gay person from the Thanksgiving family table (see Cdl Burke’s recent remarks), and gay people’s exclusion from various jobs that have nothing to do with their sexual orientation such as school administrators.
“…the Church’s obsession with the sexual orientation of the gay person.”
YFC, people are precisely that – people. It is the obsession of those intent on defining themselves by way of disordered inclinations – ‘gay’ for example – that represents the obsession. An obsession of identifying themselves not as people, but as ‘gay’, much like you do here on CCD.
It is not the person that is excluded from the Church, the priesthood, the Thanksgiving table as you are obsessed with misrepresenting, but rather the *endorsement* of a disordered sexual proclivity as being on equal par with the person themselves that is and should be rejected.
Your intentional misreading of Cardinal Burke is wholly misleading.
Endorsements cannot become priests, Ann Malley people do, and you know that. Gay people are excluded from the priesthood regardless of what they endorse, how they act, even when they act in complete accordance with the Catechism with regard to their sexual orientation and their entire belief system. Your playful manipulation of the language cannot hide the fact that gay people not only feel unwelcome, but are indeed unwelcome, in today’s Church.
I did not misread Cardinal Burke’s comments either. He believes that the gay portion of the family must be kept out of the family as a whole. It is just as simple as that. If you think I misread him, then supply your own reading.
yfc, If the Church can be accused of being “obsessed” about anything, it would be the same “obsession” Jesus had, which was for the salvation of souls.
“Afterwards, Jesus findeth him in the temple, and saith to him: Behold thou art made whole: sin no more, lest some worse thing happen to thee.” John 5:14
“You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.” John 8:44
Speaking of homosexuality, abortion, and contraception, Pope Francis said: “It is not necessary to talk about these issues all the time. The dogmatic and moral teachings of the church are not all equivalent. The church’s pastoral ministry cannot be obsessed with the transmission of a disjointed multitude of doctrines to be imposed insistently.
“We have to find a new balance,” the pope continued, “otherwise even the moral edifice of the church is likely to fall like a house of cards, losing the freshness and fragrance of the Gospel.”
To be a priest is a commitment to achieve holiness. Deviate behavior is not compatible with serving God.
The choice is there; be holy or be gay.
The Parisees were equally disturbed, Clinton, that Jesus ate with tax collectors and sinners. Do you hear yourself?
Are you implying that Our Lord ate with the tax collectors to confirm them in their tax collection, Emma? I’d ask if you hear yourself, but it would appear you’ve stopped up your ears so as not to hear on purpose.
The measure in which you judge others will be measured back to you, pressed down and overflowing in the fold of your garment, Ann Malley.
Those who deny Christ (Truth) will be denied by Christ before the Father. And the only garment that matters is grace, Emma.
Emma –
I am a sinner and have every right to judge others.
Tell your objection to the black robes in the Supreme Court .
Ann. I guess Christ would refuse to eat with Gluttons, because they would not be worthy until they lost weight. Just how skinny must a person be, before eating is morally acceptable to you?
Nobody is saying Our Lord would refuse to eat with gluttons, Jon, or avowed and proud sodomites. But I doubt He would encourage them in their sin or pass them the most tempting dishes.
Sorry, Jon. That ‘Anonymous’ was me, Ann.
This ‘worthy’ business is pure distraction.
JoJ –
None of us could speak or think for Christ . Who are you to suggest that you or anyone else could?
One of those tax gatherers was Mathew, Emma…they wanted to hear what Jesus had to say…do you actually believe Mathew continued being a tax gatherer after he began to follow Christ? Using that particular example has been used incorrectly so many times that it’s become a cliche. Jesus did not hang out in whorehouses and gay bars…sinners came to him and it was their faith that healed them. The people we’re talking about have no intention of repenting. They not only condone homosexuality, they revel in it and try to spread it as a normal activity. I pity self-righteous perpetuaters of what is thought to be charity and forgiveness. You do not forgive people who have no intention of repenting…otherwise you’re just an enabler of their sins. To those who think they’re being loving by accepting their children’s living together without marriage, taking drugs, stealing, etc. you’re only keeping them from heaven and repentence…is this what you want? Note I did not say accepting their children, but their sins. Of course we are to love them no matter what, but do you love their sins as well? That is what these homosexual addicts are asking everyone to do.
Jesus loved them for the core of their being, Dana, just as he loves gay people in the core of their being.
That is why, YFC, Our Lord suffered His passion, so that we may have the strength and grace necessary to give up that which crucified Him. To be true to the core of our being and not just those externals that would tempt us to do that which we should not.
JESUS loved all, but HE HATED Sin.
“Go and Sin NO MORE”.
Do not continue living in sin.
Homosexuality is not, ever, a part of one’s “core”. Homosexuality does not define one’s “being”. For God to love one down to the “core of one’s being, he pushes the homosexuality aside for it distorts and disorders true fellowship with God.
All Fools for Christ understand that – down to the core of their being.
Emma, Jesus spoke over and over in the need for REPENTANCE –
Go and SIN NO MORE.
Jesus also let people go when they refused to follow Him.
He did not change His teaching, nor His style, nor His vocabulary.
Jn 6:66.
Emma, when our Lord and Redeemer Jesus Christ ate with tax collectors and sinners, he did not condone their sins!
Amen!
TG
Clinton,
I am currently reading the Revelations of Blessed Anna Catherine Emmerich in which she describes the debauchery of the priesthood in her times. The parallel between her times and our current sick times is only too evident. Guess what, she does not say “who am I to judge” if the current occupant of the Chair of St. Peter doesn’t know who he is, we are all in real trouble. Pray, pray, and pray, especially Her Rosary!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher, Founding Director
Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc
These words are needed to be heard everywhere. You are correct as is Prada!
You, Sir, are correct, as are both Clinton R., and Juan Manuel de Prada. These explanations must be heard and understood or our church will not stand against the evil one!
Kenneth, in fairness to Pope Francis, he has never told us never to judge. That is humanly impossible, and he knows that. He was talking about a specific situation where the person said they were trying to live a chaste life. In other words, he could not judge their sincerity if they seemed to be sincerely trying to change and live a good Christian life. He has said repeatedly that marriages cannot not be between two people of the same sex, but the secular media does not like to report that. Instead they quite often twist or leave out good portions of what he says. They also leave out whole sermons that he gives on marriage because it does not serve their purposes.
Correct, Anne T., thanks for pointing out these things.
Please do not thank me, you who call yourself YFC, because you have posted things on here, too, that are not right. You yourself have encouraged “so-called same-sex marriages”, and you have therefore contradicted what Pope Francis himself has said at times.
No good deed goes unpunished.
YFC, actions speak louder than words.
And to set the record straight, I have never attended a Madre Gras, St. Patrick’s Day or LGBT Parade. I would never attend the latter because it is celebrating a temptation, and we should never celebrate our temptations. The only time I would ever go to the Madre Gras or St. Patrick’s celebrations is when there is no debauchery, and the parade is kept decent..
Emergency workers, of course, should go to any parade to save a life or lives if there is an actual emergency.
Tell him where it is Anne!
I love it.
May the abundant blessings of God be upon you.
This priest probably figures, if Cardinal Dolan can do it, so can he.
“The Catholic LGBT of Palm Springs” gives the impression that the Church is okay with the sins they commit and it has nothing to do with judging, either.
The bishop should act on this because it’s apparent that the pastor won’t.
Bob,
Unfortunately for him, first the Bishop would have to rejoin the fullness of the Catholic Faith!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Is Father Kavcak going to appear in the LGBT parade? If so, how will he be
(un)dressed for the event? Does his bishop or archbishop approve of his sinful, disgusting behavior? Kavcak should be removed from the parish. If he isn’t removed, his sinful, scandalous behavior gives the impression to Catholics and non-Catholics alike that the Church approves of the LGBT lifestyle. If the hierarchy isn’t going to remove him, the parishioners should attend another parish and give their financial support to another parish. If the Kavcak’s parish can’t pay its bills, maybe someone will get the message that faithful Catholics will not tolerate the promotion of sodomy.
It is sad to see what has become of the conciliar church in how it has put sinful man ahead of our purest God! Yes, it prefers under the guise of love, to let God be offended rather than our fellow man. It sounds as though the conciliar church is espousing that old protestant belief that God has already forgiven us of our sins so we are all bound for Heaven, be happy and merry and not amend our sinful lives. When was the last time you heard a good sermon on sin on a Sunday? Yes the conciliar church has adopted Protestantism — those who protest against the complete teachings of Jesus Christ, the founder of the Catholic Church. The protestants were called that because they protested against Christ’s teachings taught by Holy Mother the Roman Catholic Church. Imagine protesting God who cannot deceive nor be deceived! Just think how far that will get you.
Jesus Himself said that He was the Way, the Truth, and the Life, that no one could go to God the Father except through Him! God gave us His 10 Commandments through Moses and He expects us to live up to them. Oh yes He has given us the liberties to obey or disobey, to pick up our crosses and follow Him or not; but it is up to us for the rewards will be great for those who love, know, and fear the Lord following and being resigned to doing His holy Will and not of our own.
No wonder heterosexual males are silently leaving the Church in droves, leaving it to the womenfolk and the gays.
I have my escape, my way out. Will return from whence I came, the Orthodox Church.
By leaving I will be judging. There it is.
[From the BANKRUPT Diocese of Stockton]
So they are marching in the parade in the hopes of bring back to the Church LGBT Catholics who have fallen away.
We should pray for their success.
No won’t be praying for the promotion of sodomy
“Anonymous” and “Emma”: You do not really believe, do you, that homosexuals marching in a “gay pride” parade want anything other than acceptance for their sexual deviancy? They are not seeking anything religious; except, perhaps, having a church decide that what homosexuals do is fine with them and with God.
Come on, you know that Fr. Kavcak is a homosexual sex enabler, and openly so. A priest that wanted to change homosexuals would, perhaps, invite them to the Church hall and discuss Jesus with them. He would tell them, in a friendly, but firm way that what they are doing needs to stop for them to come into the Church and receive sacraments.
You also know that, by going out to sinners, Jesus wanted them, and the poor, to be comforted first, to know that God was with them. He addressed with compassion, expressly refusing to condemn the woman caught in adultery. But then what — Christ said, “go and sin no more”. As various writers have said, Christ easily extends mercy, but He also demands holiness (or at least the best effort possible to stop the sin and to lead a better life). It is a lie, and you know it, to use the fact that Christ ate with sinners, etc., to argue that He did not care about the sin; Christ hates sin (and died to reverse its deadly results for all of us).
Tell homosexuals sexualists to repent. Confess their sins. Recieve the sacrament of forgiveness, and go to communion. Try to avoid sinning again. That is the only ticket.
St. Christopher, it is commonly known that St. Patrick’s day in many cities including San Francisco is the most drunken, often sexually charged event of the year. Just ask any local taxi driver who’s been around for any length of time. Should priests not march in them? Should catholic parishes be prohibited from them? What about Mardi Gras? Why do we not see articles about catholic groups marching in Mardi Gras? Or Carnival?
Your point with regard to the drunkenness and sexual license often taken at St. Patrick’s day events is well stated, YFC. It should not be. But this digression from that which should be is no reason to overtly endorse increasingly grave sin, especially by way of banner. Quite the opposite.
Catholics are called to continual repentance, not wearing sin like some modern-day Pharisee with increasingly dazzling phylacteries.
yfc, if the priest is drunk, bearing his chest, and flaunting his sexual prowess, in a word NO!
Did you click to enlarge the bulletin announcement?
Yes, and it is merely a mask to publically support homosexual acts in a parade for everyone in town to see.
Celebrating mortal sin is not appropriate.
Homosexual Acts, Adultery, and Fornication have been around since man began sinning (see Old Testament).
These sins are NOT NEW in society, and must always be treated as MORTAL SIN – that if un-repented can send Souls to HELL for Eternity.
V II, never taught anything different regarding these mortal sins.
Nor did that Council teach anything different regarding the mortal sin of public Scandal.
Saint Christopher-you are so right. thanks.
St. Christopher,
What you recommend is exactly what “Courage” does and is exactly why they are not accepted in Archdiocese and Diocese that are not in full Union with Christ and His Mother!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
If they were praying for LGBT people, they would stand on the side of the road with signs stating: “Jesus Saves”, and “Repent”;
and they would be praying the Rosary out loud.
This was tried in Argentinal and the LGBT people spit on those off to the side.
Joining in a gay parade shows support for SODOMY.
No it does not.
In ancient times(1950s) I was introduced to the Holy Catholic Church at Our Lady of Solitude Church in Palm Springs. My always fond memories of that Church have now been polluted by the images of prancing fruits bearing the banner of my former Church. I am ashamed.
It is very clear– that this event in Palm Springs– is NOT for Christians, nor for anyone else! It sounds just like a lawless, immoral, deviant “Las Vegas” type of sex party! How many will get AIDS during this “sex party” event?? Especially vulnerable, struggling young people, with no one to turn to?? How many of these kids– will simply end up getting: RAPED?? That is certainly what this event is advertising!! A big excuse for “LGBT Sex Acts!” This irresponsible priest needs to be excommunicated!! And WHY must people suffering from same-sex attraction, or transgender problems, constantly focus on only one thing: SEX?? Is that the right way, for decent people to live?? Everyone needs to be given Christ-like love and acceptance. However– everyone also needs to LIVE RESPONSIBLY!! Better to grow up, accept the things you cannot change, even accept the worst– and still try to lead a good moral life, offer your sufferings humbly to God, try to serve God and others, and prepare for:Heaven!!
St Therese of Palm Springs is located within the Diocese of San Bernardino.
The Diocese Bishop is GERALD R. BARNES.
Send this article to the Diocese Bishop, with a copy to the US Papal Nuncio in Washington DC asking him to send this to the appropriate persons at the Vatican.
Be certain to quote the following:
Regarding homosexual acts:
Gen 19:1-29; Rom 1:24-27; 1 Cor 6:10; 1 Tim 1:10; Jude 1:7
CCC: 2357, 2358, 2359, 2396
St Paul – 1 Cor 11:27-30 about condemnation for receiving Holy Communion unworthily.
CCC: ” 81 Sacred Scripture is the speech of God as it is put down in writing under the breath of the Holy Spirit.
And [Holy] Tradition transmits in its ENTIRETY the Word of God which has been entrusted to the apostles by Christ the Lord and the Holy Spirit.
It transmits it to the successors of the apostles so that, enlightened by the Spirit of truth, they may faithfully preserve, expound and spread it abroad by their preaching. “
Yes, contact Diocese Bishop, GERALD R. BARNES about this sinful act on the part of his Priest John Kavcak.
Don’t leave out the US Papal Nuncio. either.
Mac,
Just who do you expect them to send those messages to, Donald Wuerl, Kasper, just who?
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
CCC: ” 1791 This ignorance (of sin) can often be imputed to personal responsibility.
This is the case when a man takes little trouble to find out what is true and good, or
when conscience is by degrees almost blinded through the habit of committing sin.
In such cases, the person is culpable for the evil he commits. ”
It is not Pastoral, Charitable or Merciful to condone or affirm anyone in their Mortal Sin(s) of any kind.
CCC: ” 1868 Sin is a personal act. Moreover, we have a responsibility for the sins committed by others when we cooperate in them:
– by participating directly and voluntarily in them;
– by ordering, advising, praising, or approving them;
– by not disclosing or not hindering them when we have an obligation to do so;
– by protecting evil-doers. ”
Fr. John Kavcak is (at least remotely) participating in the sins of others.
And aiding and abetting in the loss of Souls.
Kavcak needs to be removed from the Priesthood, before he does more scandalous damage.
Pope Francis said, “Who am I to judge?” Our Catholic Church is indeed helmless if our leader does not judge what is sinful.
Homosexuality and gender “confusion” are themselves manifestations of the failed Sexual Revolution of the 1960s. Abortion, rampant sexual disease, moral degradation of all sorts, divorce, euthanasia – these are the hallmarks of a society that has willingly and voluntarily allowed EROS unfettered reign over Agape, and Philia. Every manifestation of modern sexual sin is the result of UNPRINCIPLED and UNFETTERED, UNBRIDLED sexual pleasure – Eros. This IS the problem and it must be met with resistance and the desire for the SOUL again to reassert its rightful position as the MASTER and not the servant of sensual pleasure. We are not descended from the apes, but I fear we are rapidly getting there.
Homosexual Acts, Adultery, and Fornication are NOT NEW, and are just as evil today as they were thousands of years ago.
Check out the Old Testament.
The Pride Parades are solemn, sacred venues for Catholic participation.
Just check out the website for the Palm Springs Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence and you can see for yourself.
If that does not satisfy you, check out the Palm Springs Greater Pride Parade website.
Bishop Barnes, no stranger to Palm Springs, might show his support and walk with the “Catholic” entry?
To “St Peter”
Peter, you are terribly misguided and have fallen into gay political slogans.
The Catholic Church and parishes have never excluded homosexuals.
There is no one who stands at the church door to ask everyone if they are homosexual. Everyone, especially sinners who wish to repent, are always welcome in a Catholic Church to worship and seek salvation.
When anyone today speaks of “welcoming” homosexuals, what they really mean is that we as Catholics ought to embrace the homosexual lifestyle.
Cathy – you seem to forget that gay people are being fired as teachers at catholic schools all across the country. Children with gay parents are being expelled from school in a few parishes. It is just simply not true that gay people are welcome in the catholic church. We are made to feel very very unwelcome in a lot of parishes, probably most. Cardinal Burke just recently said that gay people should even be disinvited from the family Thanksgiving meal if their will be children present. How unwelcome is that!! On the other hand, If you are one who extends a hand of welcome, if you, for example, have ever invited a gay couple to join you at your local mass and the coffee hour afterwords, then I thank you for the welcome you extend.
“Your Fellow Catholic”: You are a complete dissembler. To begin, homosexual sexualists have no business being teachers in Catholic schools (that is, unless they publicly profess their prior homosexual sexual sinfulness, confirm that they have confessed their sin, and agree to refrain from homosexual sexual expression).
Second, “professed” homosexuals, that is those in a “permanent” relationship, cannot be treated in a Catholic Church like man-woman married couples. Homosexuals simply will not agree to this, demanding that they are as “normal” as everyone else and that their relationships are fine. With such aggressive beliefs, there is simply no place for them within a Faith community. Remember that the Prodigal Son came home to the Father and confessed his sin, asking for forgiveness and expecting nothing. What would the Father — God — have said to the returning son who simply came home with a prostitute, and demanded yet more money from “Dad” (and that “Dad” accept his live-in babe)?
You, and the Liberal Church, consistently think that mainline Catholics are stupid. Just look at your query about “extending a hand of welcome to a gay couple”. Why would a practicising, devout Catholic do this, except in a proper forum where the Believer might try to impart some of the Faith to them? What you suggest is a scandal, whereby the family and friends of the “welcoming” Catholic might well be deceived that this gesture of friendship was an action condoning the sodomite relationship.
Your example is one of the reasons why the “interim” Relatio was calculating in its evil. The act of “welcoming” the “gifts” of homosexuals is nothing more than cover for saying that the Church should say that their sodomite relationship is fine.
Tell me St. Christopher, what is the difference between a glutton who is 100lbs overweight and a practicing gay couple?
Both are engaging in serious sin. Yet, odd how you want to reject the gays from your presence, but would not dream of asking the 100lbs overweight fat hog from attending mass.
Tell me Christopher, what is your BMI? If you’re fat, then you’re a hypocrite for demanding repentence from homosexuals when you make no attempt to control your gluttony. Given the fat epidemic in America, how many such hypocrites do we see here on CCD?
YFC, you refuse to acknowledge that Catholicism isn’t welcome in gay households. There is no adherence to that which is Catholic. There is no desire to do so. And yet these adults choose to use the innocent offspring of others and sometimes their own offspring as little more than toolz to shove a political agenda down the throat of the Bride of Christ. And without respect for their own souls or the souls of others or even fear of the Lord.
Those who have chosen to act on homosexual inclinations and in a very public manner are attacking Catholic values across the country, insisting that their sinful lifestyle choices be accepted by unsuspecting Catholics and their children. They cry disrespect and rejection while doing nothing but disrespecting and rejecting the very Bride they say they ‘love.’
This is a disorder of the mind, YFC, or at the very least a massive cognitive disorder as the dissonance between desire, belief, and practice is sharper than an air raid siren. Either that, YFC, or it is a spiritually disingenuous political campaign to attack the Truth, much like the ‘spiritual’ campaign waged against Christ by those who sought to silence Him because they liked their positions of authority and power.
As to the invitation to a ‘gay’ couple. To what purpose, YFC? Conversion? The good news? Or just continue compromising until there is no longer any attempt at pursuing sanctity?
Ann Malley has a doozie of a made up post. EVERYTHING in her post at Nov 3 at 12:42 PM is entirely the invention of her imagination. There are very many – very many – devout and faithful gay catholics. Your should be ashamed of yourself for making up the lie that there are not.
People living in loving relationships are not attacking Catholic values. Good relationships, at least, are reminding Catholics that God was right when it is written “it is not good that a man shall be alone.” Good relationships of all kinds sure signs that Christ loves us and wants us to be happy, and offers us a foretaste of eternal companionship with Him.
Then you go on and make up another lie: “This is a disorder of the mind, YFC, or at the very least a massive cognitive disorder as the dissonance between desire, belief, and practice is sharper than an air raid siren.” Where do you get such stuff? Why do you make up the notion that being gay is a disorder of the mind? a dissonance between desire, belief and practice? Really? If this were even remotely so, psychiatrists offices would be filled with gay people trying to achieve consonance.
Go on and continue to make things up Ann Malley, if it pleases you. But more and more people understand what motivates people who have to make things up in order to put gay people down.
“Your Fellow Catholic”: you are wrong again, and badly so. Ann Malley correctly takes you to task for your anti-Catholic arguments. First, there are not “many-very many-devout and faithful gay catholics”. If they are in “gay relationships” this suggests sexual behavior. And, if there is sodomy, there is nothing faithful about these relationships; nothing.
Second, homosexuals are disordered, according to the Catholic Church. If you oppose this, you oppose the Church’s teachings; Ann Malley is just reflecting what is true and faith-filled.
Third, you should be ashamed for your misstatements, YFC. In typical Liberal fashion, you attack the speaker but without point. You vent, but without any truth in your assertions.
It is simply and absolutely the case that homosexual couples are an anathema to faithful Catholics. Their sin is certainly forgivable, and the Church wishes to do this, but each homosexual person must be willing to seek confession, to amend their lives, and to live according to the Church. No, it does not matter if their relationship is “loving” and all that.
Wait, wait — didn’t Archbishop Bruno Forte personally write about accepting the “gifts” of a homosexual and that their relationships were “precious”? Well, yes he did, and the Pope seemed to like it (and many bishops did too). But, Dear Reader, the homosexual inclinations of a bishop, or a Cardinal, or even a Pope, do not recreate Catholic doctrine, or “presto-magic” make everything new and spiffy for sodomites.
Ann Malley, Thank you for showing another example of how the disorder of homosexuality can affect the mind. YFC is the one who has decided to make things up such as his own version of reality. This is what St. Peter Damian spoke about when he said “In fact, after this most poisonous serpent once sinks its fangs into the unhappy soul, sense is snatched away, memory is borne off, the sharpness of the mind is obscured. It becomes unmindful of God and even forgetful of itself.”
YFC must not remember that he posted about the passing of a “father in law.” and yet he claims that he follows Church teaching. Why would YFC have used the words “my father in law” if he accepted and followed Church teaching as he claims. There is the lie and the disconnect. YFC is making up his very own religion based around his disorder. So while YFC clearly rejects what the Catholic Church teaches the sharpness of his mind is obscured. The disorder has blinded him from seeing that he is actually the persecutor of himself.
Topic Behind behind the Candelabra
Your Fellow Catholic says:
June 8, 2013 at 5:44 pm
“And really, your going back and quoting old posts is truly creepy, especially when you bend and twist the words and the contexts. I will remind you that the post you are quoting was a reference to my family mourning the passing of my father in law and my mother.”
YFC, you stated: ” There are very many – very many – devout and faithful gay catholics.”
These are people who have same sex attraction but do not support SODOMY or other homosexual acts in any way.
You yourself are not a Faithful Catholic based upon your own posts, because you support the INTRINSIC EVILS of HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE. This is support for SODOMY any way you try to mask it.
YFC,- homosexual acts, (and fornication, and adultery) are not Catholic values.
To know Catholic values, HAVE YOU READ EACH OF THE FOLLOWING ?
Or do you merely make up your own views of Catholic teaching to satisfy your sexual desires, and promote lies in the public media ?
READ: These are CATHOLIC VALUES regarding homosexual acts:
Gen 19:1-29; Rom 1:24-27; 1 Cor 6:10; 1 Tim 1:10; Jude 1:7
St Paul – 1 Cor 11:27-30 about condemnation for receiving Holy Communion unworthily.
CCC: ” 81 Sacred Scripture is the speech of God as it is put down in writing under the breath of the Holy Spirit.
And [Holy] Tradition transmits in its ENTIRETY the Word of God which has been entrusted to the apostles by Christ the Lord and the Holy Spirit.
It transmits it to the successors of the apostles so that, enlightened by the Spirit of truth, they may faithfully preserve, expound and spread it abroad by their preaching. “
and READ – CCC: #2357, 2358, 2359, & 2396.
In continually attempting to associate sexual attraction as integral with the ‘person’ you degrade the value of each and every person. You dismiss the ‘core’ of the individual that you were so adamant in delineating for Dana in your post of November 3, 2014 at 12:35 pm.
Shame on you, YFC, for putting those carrying a very heavy cross into a box of – NO!! There will be NO help and NO hope and NO effects of grace for you. You seem to want those suffering with SSA to be so disheartened and tricked into believing that Holy Mother Church offers them no help. Why? Misery loves company? Or do you hope to storm God’s law by force? For it is God you are attempting to make accept this behavior. For every priest on earth could become corrupt and give into your way of thinking, but that would not kill the truth of the situation. Much like Christ looked to be dead after the crucifixion, but He is anything but dead.
So while you focus on the lines at the physiologist’s office to treat the dissonance between desire, belief and practice of those building a life around that which is grave sin who say they love being Catholic, you should be focusing on the confessional. That is precisely where those who love the Catholic Church and desire to live as Catholic take these disconnects.
Once again, I say that it is truly creepy when you dig up old posts of people in order to try to pin them (unsuccessfully) against a dart board, even as you twist the quotation to fit your purposes. You do this with me and you do this with other. Creepier than any Holloween costume. But go for it, if it brings you some sort of perverse pleasure.
Ann Malley, you continue to offer your pop-psychological analysis of homosexuality, of me, and of gay catholics. Yet post by post you prove you know nothing of which you write about. Try taking your statement “In continually attempting to associate sexual attraction as integral with the ‘person’ you degrade the value of each and every person. You dismiss the ‘core’ of the individual that you were so adamant in delineating…” to any professionally licenses psychologist or psychiatrist, and they will laugh you out of your office for your lack of understanding of human sexuality. You don’t even have to go to a psychologist, just go to the Catechism which states, “2332 Sexuality affects all aspects of the human person in the unity of his body and soul. It especially concerns affectivity, the capacity to love and to procreate, and in a more general way the aptitude for forming bonds of communion with others.
2333 Everyone, man and woman, should acknowledge and accept his sexual identity. Physical, moral, and spiritual difference and complementarity are oriented toward the goods of marriage and the flourishing of family life. The harmony of the couple and of society depends in part on the way in which the complementarity, needs, and mutual support between the sexes are lived out.”
Yes, YFC, sexuality affects all aspects of the human person. But sexuality is not ‘the human person’. You are by your citations attempting to pervert the core and nature of sexual faculties. So carry on with your anti-Catholic, pro-sin campaign, it is nothing more than what is expected.
Unlike you seem to be, however, I am not overly fixed on the psychologists’s impression of my take on sexuality. That is not the point. Rather, the point is living a Catholic life, YFC, if one proposes to be Catholic.
Yet again, however, you’ve demonstrated your own cognitive dissonance by focusing on popular psychology of the day in lieu of solid Catholic doctrine and the natural law. So please do keep posting as you prove the basis for my seemingly uneducated take on precisely what you demonstrate on nearly a daily basis on CCD.
IOW: It doesn’t take a rocket scientist or a psychologist to ‘see’ the disconnect between stating one’s devout Catholic beliefs while at the same time living in opposition to one’s supposed devotion.
And you may want to look to yourself to cease attempting to judge and interpret the motivations of others as you continually attempt to box and brand those who would keep the Faith as only doing so as a means to be cruel to you. IOW: Stop beating up on the Faithful, YFC, and shaming them and branding them and attempting to psychoanalyze that which you cannot understand. It’s – hmmm – so incredibly cruel and unfeeling. How could you?!
… as for the cruelty of pinning others (unsuccessfully) to a dart board, look in the mirror again, YFC. For you are failing in your agenda – with quotes and without.
That said, your twisted quoting of the catechism to support same-sex unions is rather creepy. But expected.
Ann Malley, I have never ever said that “sexuality is not ‘the human person’. NEVER! You are the one who keeps insisting that I say that. Please try to understand what I say. Please.
Ironic that you say you are not fixated on psychologists take on things….yet your use of psychobabble says otherwise.
And as to motivations, what I said is that anyone can determine for themselves your motivations for saying untrue things. But the again, you don’t believe telling lies is a mortal sin. So there you have it.
She is just a mouth. Quit feeding it.
No need to feign pleading, YFC. Believing Catholics comprehend precisely what you are saying and proposing. As for your last assertion regarding ‘telling lies’ you should look to the lies – concerning grave and seriously sinful matter – that you are obviously telling yourself and others on CCD on such a regular basis. For lying with regard to grave matter can indeed be mortally sinful. You know this, of course, but since it doesn’t fit your narrative of Catholic bashing and hate mongering, you will ignore it or spin it as usual.
Again you reference psychobabble instead of looking to matters of Faith and what we as Catholics are called to do/be/teach. Your fixations are your own, YFC. Your insistence of the contrary only under-girds the sad and secular diagnosis. You look to psychology and the world for religion and would prefer even believing Catholics to do the same.
Again, I have to ask who you have been allowing to use your YFC moniker. That last ‘there you have it’ and the ‘please, please, please’ are abjectly sophomoric.
Thank you for being a voice of normalcy, Catherine, St. Christopher, Manny, Al, Kenneth, and all those standing for that which is reality. What a blessing to have eyes to see and ears to hear!!
Keep up the great work and God bless.
Ann Malley,
YFC “Your False Catholic” knows all of what you have written and he rejects it, just as others throughout history have done so and suffered the consequences when their times came!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Sure enough, Kenneth. The ridiculous notion that these vices are something we’re only beginning to understand is such poppycock and nonsense.
God bless!
Guess what, Ann, I guess a fat person is also unworthy of an invitation b/c they continue their devotion to the sin of gluttony with every peice of food they stuff in their mouth.
Guess they shouldn’t be welcome at the thanksgiving table with children present due to their devotion to sin.
If it is your Thanksgiving Day celebration, JonJ, and they’re your kids, then it’s your call. Catholic parents have a duty, whether you’re offended by it or not.
As for ‘unworthy’, get over it and leave others to make the decisions within their jurisdiction. If you want to live and be respected, then respecting the moral values of others is a good place to begin. Otherwise you’re just forcing the issue like you seem to want to accuse others of doing.
Sorry, Jon, on another computer and forgot to enter my name. The above was from Ann Malley.
Ann Malley, it’s “your call”, except when Cardinal Burke says it is not your call. Then when criticized for his Burkelian intrusion into our households, we are told we are taking his comments out of context. Well you are right, it should be the call of the hosts, and Burke should mind his own household and stay out of mine.
Got “fat” obsession?
Stop playing victim, YFC. Nobody is in ‘your household’. Cardinal Burke’s job is to teach the Faith. But you are at perfect liberty to reject the Faith. Even in your own household. Making Cardinal Burke out to be the intrusive boogie man is ridiculous.
Parents have an obligation to live out their vocation. Protecting the children under their charge – that is those still living at home – is the top priority. Not catering to those adult children who have *freely* chosen to divert from living the Faith, embracing open scandal.
So while you want to lay blame at the feet of Cardinal Burke for reminding parents (as is his duty of state) of the requisite obligation to protect young children from confusion and scandal (something, I might add that the so called adult children living in homosexual relationships despite the scandal and confusion it would cause to their younger siblings), please TRY to take some responsibility for sins unrepented and sins for which many are mistakenly proud. Or do you blame Cardinal Burke for your living arrangements, too?
Adult children who want to press their parents to choose between them (and their willfully disordered lifestyle) to the dismissal of the formation of their younger siblings (who they should CARE about more than themselves since they are young and need protection) are being selfish and self directed when they insist on bringing their same sex partner home for the Holidays.
If you want to reject Church teaching, that is your choice. And you are the master of your household. That said, you will take the hit before God in rejecting His laws in the running of said household. But so too will those clerics who do not do their duty in teaching the flock – and that includes pouting dissenters – that certain sins are highly scandalous and damaging to the formation of young folks.
Ann Malley, Obviously by telling me that there is no one in my household, you are being argumentative purely for the sake of being argumentative; not surprising since that is your MO. Then you go on to assert that dinner guest lists and family events are a matter of faith. Pure and obvious hogwash made up by one who proves regularly that she would rather leave the faith than understand it. You go on to imply that the Cardinal has nothing better to do with his time than to micromanage such things. Well, maybe you are right there, as he may have nothing better to do with his time, since he’s been demoted twice in the last year.
Yes, YFC, and Christ was crucified for doing his job. Speaking the Truth. So again, while you focus on the politically correct and attempting to play the victim – as if your Thanksgiving plans will be utterly ruined by a man you purport is messing ‘in’ your household – others will focus on the message of Faith. That and carrying the cross.
Try learning the Faith, YFC, instead of just hijacking the name and then attempting to change ‘it’ to suit ‘you.’ Even Judas looked to have ‘not left’, rather he stayed mum and pushed his own agenda to the end.
YFC, only those who adhere to a Catholic lifestyle may teach in Catholic Schools. Children learn by example, and the examples may not be mortal sins.
That being said, if someone has SSA but does NOT live in sin, he can teach anywhere because there is no need to advertise temptations.
Cardinal Burke was speaking about setting an example for children present at the dinner.
YFC, when are you going to read Sacred Scripture?
Read about “JESUS the CAUSE of DIVISION in His own words:
– Lk 12:51-53.
Sue I’m sorry, but the UnWelcome that Cardinal Burke extended to LGBT members of catholic families when he disinvited us to all family gatherings needs no explanation from either you or me. It has already reverberated far and wide and is correctly being used to remind the world of how hostile many catholics are to us. His statements were simply cruel and everyone knows it, including the straight members of our families.
God Bless Cardinal Burke, may God grant legions more like him…
So called YFC,
Gladly count me as one of those hostile against your grossly sinful lifestyle. When my good mother told me never to bring a girl friend that I was having sinful activity with, she was showing her love for me, but you would say that she was being cruel to me and my girlfriend. May God have mercy on your at least presently LOST soul.
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Cardinal Burke is not hostile to LGBT people. Cardinal Burke is one of the most loving of clergymen.
Cardinal Burke tried to start a religious order for transsexual women but was rebuked by the Vatican.
YFC, you take Cardinal Burke’s statement out of context.
He was speaking of the mortal sin of SCANDAL that would result regarding children and the uncatechised.
You certainly can be welcome at family gatherings as long as you leave your sodomite/sexual partner out of the picture for the day.
He can go to see his own family.
If your family truly loves you, they will not support you in Mortal Sin for any reason.
You can choose your family, or choose Sex.
It is disrespectful for you to flaunt your sexual beliefs on others.
This is what Jesus said about family – Lk 12:51-53.
YFC, it is NOT LOVING to confirm or condone anyone in Mortal Sin.
It is NOT LOVING to teach children and the uncatechised that Mortal Sin is acceptable.
It is Loving to help as many as possible get to Heaven for eternity.
Visit your family, but your homosexual lover should not be welcome where there is the possibility of SCANDAL.
CCC: 2284, 2285, 2286, 2326.
You are asking your family to participate in your Mortal Sin by condoning or affirming it.
If you loved them, you would not ask them to do such a thing.
CCC: 1868.
If you do not follow God’s Commandments, you do not love Him either.
” remind the world of how hostile many catholics are to us.” Its a hostility that has been well earned YFC….I will never forget when ACTUP desecrated the Blessed Sacrament at St. Patrick’s Cathedral in NYC during mass, so use this as a point of reference of why you are so disliked.
Canisius I wasn’t even within 2500 miles of that event when it took place, and as you well know, it is not reasonable to impute the sins of a person to the class they belong to.
Dear Pedro, There was NOTHING in Cardinal Burke’s statement that hinted at, let alone referenced, the uncatechized. You are the one who puts words in his mouth. There is no scandal in having a person sit in a chair at Thanksgiving. None. The scandal is in tearing apart families which is what you do when you force part of the family to stay away.
Everyone needs to stop their them vs. us mentality.
There is only us.
Those of us who were taken aback by Cardinal Burke’s remarks need to pray over what he meant. And yes, it is offensive to say to someone “I don’t want my kid around you because they might be damaged by just being in your presence.” It takes humility and charity to understand what Cardinal Burke is saying. This is true of all of us. are we living the Gospel, or part of the Gospel? Are we living the Gospel from the heart or just pretending to live the Gospel when others are watching? Do we really believe Jesus in all His teachings?
Today’s Gospel:
“If anyone comes to me without hating his father and mother,
wife and children, brothers and sisters,
and even his own life,
he cannot be my disciple.”
“Those of *us* who were *taken aback* by Cardinal Burke’s remarks need to pray over what he meant.” = The fallen angels were also *taken aback* when their plot failed.
“Everyone needs to stop their them vs. us mentality. There is only us.”
Douay-Rheims Bible …”I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel. ”
Cardinal Burke also has a tremendous devotion to the Mother of God.
YFC, anonymous trolls and the other homosexual activists within the Church are so extremely threatened by Cardinal Burke’s faithfulness and they will lie and misrepresent everything because he represents TRUTH. They plotted with hatred to have him removed.
Now read the very beautiful story of a homosexual activist who experienced the exact opposite of what the trolls are posting. Michael McDermott we truly understand what you mean by BAMN,….”By Any Means Necessary.”
What a testimony to the faithfulness of Cardinal Burke. Minions of the devil are assailing him for steadfastly upholding and defending Church teaching. As Father Z wrote, here is another sore spot.
Tantumblogo wrote: An awesome story regarding Cardinal Burke
Here is the true story: Cardinal Burke and the 1998 conversion of one of “Wisconsin’s most outspoken gay activists”
https://badgercatholic.blogspot.ca/2014/09/tantumblogo-awesome-story-regarding.html
Catherine, you really are misreading things lately. This is the 4th item that I have noticed where you attacked someone who upholds the positions that you usually defend because you are interpreting them incorrectly. I am praying for you. I assume that you are an elderly woman who may be failing so I hope you will take more time when you read things or get someone else to explain them to you before you post. God heal you and bless you in your illness.
Catherine, if you actually read the story in Badger Catholic, you will see that this is a story that apparently has gone around and they tried to find people to back up the story and no one could. It is as good as an urban legend, but not testimony to someone’s goodness. I don’t doubt the story or that Cardinal Burke is capable of praying for people (indeed I hope and expect that he does), but there is no evidence for it. It doesn’t change the fact that he clearly advocates keeping families apart at the Thanksgiving table.
It is the love of sin that keeps families apart at the Thanksgiving table, YFC. Much like sin and folks loving it (and what they desire) more than God that keeps them from Him.
Stop blaming others for the willful choices made by adults putting homosexual relations above everything else – even their own families and using the Holidays as a sentimental wedge to push their agenda.
YFC, There is no evidence that you are Catholic. There is plenty of evidence that you are anti-Catholic.
Based on your post , your fearful reaction to hearing about the conversions of homosexuals is in keeping with the fear that the unclean spirits demonstrated when they ran terrified to Jesus who was coming near in the boat.
We see this in your terrified posting reaction to Cardinal Burke’s and Mark F’s or any other conversion stories. The two men in the gospel who were possessed by unclean spirits also ran out toward and shouted at Jesus, “What do you want with us, Son of God? Have you come to torture us before the appointed time?” Clearly, the demons had taken possession of the various capacities of these two men, and it was they who were speaking through the men.
Your post is a wonderful teaching demonstration on how these powerful evil spirits. are in a panic, afraid of Christ, worried their days are coming to an end, knowing that a judgment is appointed for them. They may exert power over these two poor wretches in the gospel (and you YFC) but against Christ they have no power at all, and they are desperate and that is why you were also compelled by the power of Christ to run out to discredit and attack Cardinal Burke in your post. Other posters do the same.
It is no wonder why Cardinal Burke is shown such hatred. Cardinal Burke is obedient and faithful to Christ’s teachings and Christ was victorious over sin. You can choose to seek out help from a faithful shepherd such as Cardinal Burke with a true victorious conversion in Christ or you can choose to be herded right off of the cliff.
Catherine it is unfortunate that you are so tone deaf to the tone in the posts you read. You link to a story, one for which there is no evidence it ever happenned, and believe it to be true. Yet, there is no terror or fear or any of the other nonsense you put in your post today at 11:06 AM. I am just simply pointing out that you are so desperate to try to prove that Burke loves gays that you are citing as true a story that has no truth to it. Your gullibility is on par with a story making its rounds this week, in which a Pastor was so willing to slander gay people that he took as truth a parody website*. Critical thinking, Catherine. Try it sometime.
*I was going to post a link to the Pastor’s own video, but it is just so disgusting I can’t. That he would take a parody website and use it against gay people is pitiful if not hilarious. You can find it if you google Starbucks New York pastor
Saint Peter Damian (1007-1072)
Doctor of the Church, cardinal and a great reformer of the clergy, Saint Peter Damian wrote his famous Book of Gomorrah against the inroads made by homosexuality among the clergy. He describes not only the iniquity of homosexuality, but also its psychological and moral consequences:
“Truly, this vice is never to be compared with any other vice because it surpasses the enormity of all vices.… It defiles everything, stains everything, pollutes everything. And as for itself, it permits nothing pure, nothing clean, nothing other than filth.…
“The miserable flesh burns with the heat of lust; the cold mind trembles with the rancor of suspicion; and in the heart of the miserable man chaos boils like Tartarus [Hell]….
In fact, after this most poisonous serpent once sinks its fangs into the unhappy soul, sense is snatched away, memory is borne off, the sharpness of the mind is obscured. It becomes unmindful of God and even forgetful of itself.
This plague undermines the foundation of faith, weakens the strength of hope, destroys the bond of charity; it takes away justice, subverts fortitude, banishes temperance, blunts the keenness of prudence.
“And what more should I say since it expels the whole host of the virtues from the chamber of the human heart and introduces every barbarous vice as if the bolts of the doors were pulled out.”
(Thanks Catherine for the timely & quite appropriate quote)
Thank you Michael McDermott for posting this again!
No surprises here.
The website, “Gay Church.org” lists Our Lady of Solitude and Saint Theresa churches of Palm Springs as “gay churches.”
I have to change my church. Maybe Sacred Heart in Palm Desert. This is shameful.
The Latin Mass at 2:30pm Sundays at Sacred Heart in Palm Desert is wonderful. The priest who celebrates is is a wonderful, holy orthodox shepherd. Yes Anonymous, please come!
At Sacred Heart they have altar ladies who assist at opening the Tabernacle during the Latin Mass. That and a couple other aberrations.
Homosexuality is an abomination before the Face of God:
Sodom=y and Gomorrah were were annihilated.
Leviticus 20,13 If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them shall be put to death for their abomination.
Romans 1;26-29 Therefore, God handed them over to degrading passions. Their females exchanged natural relations for unnatural. and the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another.
1 Cor 6:1-11 sodomites shall not enter heaven
1 Timothy 1:8 …ungodly sinners…for those who practice homosexuality….
Joseph,
But what do these Prophets, Apostles, and Evangelist know about modern very sinful man? Just ask any sodomite priest, bishop, archbishop, or cardinal and he will answer that, NOT!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
I doubt that this event is a proper promotion for the work that has been done in Palm Springs with the homosexual element there. It’s one thing to encourage “talking” about it, and another in promoting homosexuality. Pride parades are all about Pride, not in the simplicity of humility (a call to chastity) but in the celebration of the sin of homosexual acts. I don’t think there is any question, they have lost their way in Palm Springs.
This parade celebrates “gay pride” which is totally different from mere fundamental respect which we as Catholics give to all human brings. Gay Pride is about changing laws and morality to celebrate the homosexual lifestyle including “gay marriage.”
Bishop Gerald Barnes has clearly stated, “‘All people must be treated with respect. But when we as Roman Catholics speak about marriage, we speak about marriage as the commitment and love of one man and one woman with the openness to life.”
When Bishop Barnes hears about the “Catholic entry” in the gay pride parade, he will be a good shepherd and cancel it so as not to bring more sexual scandal to the Faith. Trust him.
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Tom,
O how we wish and pray that your are right about Bp. Barnes, but we doubt it!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Free to be chaste, freedom from lust, freedom from sexual addiction should be the banner for Catholics in this parade. Otherwise St Thersa’s Church is encouraging moral depravity and defilement of body and soul.
God said, “My thoughts are not your thoughts and my ways are not your ways,” so guess who you people are following.
In 2000 our beloved Pope John Paul II expressed his disgust when there was a Gay Pride Parade through Rome.
”In the name of the Church of Rome, I express bitterness for the affront to the Grand Jubilee of the year 2000 and for the offense to the Christian values of a city that is so dear to the hearts of Catholics across the world,”
All so called Gay pride Parades and events are an affront to the Gospel message of Jesus and Christian values.
What is wrong in the Diocese of San Bernardino?
YES – “THEY WILL HATE YOU”… For telling the Truth – and the Gaystapo will Retaliate BAMN –By Any Means Necessary; including infiltrate your Churches & Schools – even parading through them in mocking disguise as ‘priests’ or twysted systers of indulgence
When it comes to publicly pandering to such Intrinsic Evil – False Mercy is just another of Satan’s Tools for corruption of the Flock.
Like ‘Feeling’ sorry for an Alcoholic – then buying them a drink as your penance.
Michael Voris has made it clear again: BTW – Is this ‘merciful’ priest in Palm Springs in favor of promoting the Homo-Anal ‘Conga Line of Buggery’ as part of the parade (perhaps he wants to join in, leading the adolescent boy contingent)…
OR – Does he see a special place for the Twysted Systers to promote their own cherished agenda of Love – for the Exterminationist Hatred of Men & Boys, Masculinity & Normal Heterosexuality – as is the case in Sodom by the Sea.
SEE
https://www.churchmilitant.tv/platform/?today=2014-10-31
&
Men told not to rain on parade Unity key to Dyke March / 50,000 expected at S.F. Dyke March 50,000 expected — Men Not Advised.
https://www.sfgate.com/politics/joegarofoli/article/Men-told-not-to-rain-on-parade-Unity-key-to-Dyke-2746314.php
Women rule the world, if only for a little while – SFGate
For a few hours Saturday night, Vicki Noble got a fleeting glimpse of a WORLD DEVOID OF MEN…
— and she came away excited and deeply moved.
“This is what the world would look like if women ruled the world, which we intend to do,”
great, another duplicitous priest . How are Catholics supposed to know what is the real teaching of the Church when we have such confusion? God have mercy. Jesus save us.
These men – old-fashion sodomized, New Homophiles, Gay Bully Boys, homosexuality promoting priests – hate the flesh within and by which they are clothed. This is the most distinctive characterization of homosexuality. Homosexuality, psychologically (let alone morally), is a prime example of fragmentation. Sodomites are to pitied for the fragmented, disordered, disjointed, lives they lead.
They only float Catholics should have in a “gay pride” parade is an oversized 16-wheeler with a blaring neon sign announcing, “Yes, we do judge! Hear ye, the Gospel of the Lord.”
Homosexuality is a hatred, a repulsion, of Personhood, and all its *created* fullness. The glory of man, which is his by creation, is despised by the homosexual act, and the disordered condition of homosexuality, itself.
It is past time to trumpet the mustering of all faithful men. It is time for battle, to have this out on the very threshold of the Church of Christ. Far too near the point-of-no-return for bishops removing wolf-priests to be the work of good shepherds. Or, unless, they need to place themselves in exile.
It is time for all Catholic heterosexual men heed the toscin bell for battle. No More! No more old-fashion sodomites prancing in our sanctuaries. No more homosexuality affirming priests promoting what sodomites do between the sheets. No more LGBTIQQ,BDSM,I(soon to be “P”) outreach ministries. No more “gay pride” parades confiscating the blessing of the Church.
(From the BANKRUPT Diocese of Stockton)
Are you done spitting yet?
No. Not quite.
Will never let this issue rest. There will be, within the Church, no rest for Sodomites without the laying aside of their sin which so easily besets them. Homosexuality is eternal restlessness. Pope Francis needs to hop on another plane and declaim, “Yes, I do judge, because Scripture and Tradition does.
You and Pete need to show up at NARTH’s next open conference!
One can assume that this priest – who is no Fool for Christ – supports the “Gay Pride” parade by permitting the parish bulletin to run the ad.
It’s time for the Catholic faithful in Palm Springs to shake out the sheets.
By the way “A”, time to crawl out from the anonymous rock!
Toot toot!
“When it comes to publicly pandering to such Intrinsic Evil – False Mercy is just another of Satan’s Tools for corruption of the Flock.”
“Like ‘Feeling’ sorry for an Alcoholic – then buying them a drink as your penance.”
Excellent truths Michael McDermott!
Okay enough talk join the laity brotherhood of the passion of Christ who by their spiritual lives pray and live in atonement for sexual men who see no need to repent. Each man’s daily life is offered in atonement for such men. 5000 per man. We have been around since 1985 more info if wanted.
We have the ok of our bishop and Catdinal Pell states our ministry is ‘admirable’. We gave also written to Pope Francis.
Sanctuaryhouse_99 (at) yahoo.com
Blog : sanctuaryhouse.tumblr.com
(do not use e mail seen on the blog it is not in use any longer longer)
I’ve been living here in the Coachella Valley for the past nearly 10 years and working hard to try to get Courage/EnCourage apostolate started in our diocese. For the first couple of years, attempts were almost completely futile, but slowly but surely several parish leaders and many of the lay faithful have been interested in promoting this great faithful Catholic apostolate. If anyone is interested in helping, please contact me (encouragejim@outlook.com). The rest of you if you would please pray for our success. And don’t tell me it can’t be done! The Diocese of Lansing, MI is one of many such success stories.
Indeed let God bless the ministries that encourage those with unnatural inclinations to seek the ways of God. Your cross may be heavy, May the Lord help carry it. This type of ministry goes against the current, but with God all things are possible. May Our Blessed Mother pray for those who seek holiness in a world where sinfulness is encouraged and applauded. +JMJ+
God bless you.
Sadly the editors deleted half of my comments, so no one was able to comprehend or get my full point. It goes to show how modernism and the devil have encroached and taken over the once catholic church and our narcissistic society. Even Paul the VIth said the smoke of satan had entered the Vatican around the V2 Council sessions; there is no denying it.
Joseph is correct in his references to the Roman Catholic Holy Bible, if you want a clear picture of how God truly feels about LGBT lifestyles read and concentrate on St.Paul’s Epistle to the Romans Chapter 1 verses 27 through 33, preferably from the Douay-Rheims version which hasn’t been watered down with protestant themes. There is no denying St.Paul’s message to us all in his Epistle to the Romans, although those who live in, commit, and sympathize with this very offending grievous sin to God will deny and defy it to suit their own sinful pleasures and entice others to offend God and accept it by putting fear in heterosexuals and castizeing heterosexuals as criminals of hate. The only hate heterosexuals have is the fear and hate of offending God, not the sinners. Those that hate these sins and have the courage to speak out against them are actually trying to save the souls of the LGBT sinners, not encourage them to go on their own way, leading them to their own damnation.
Father John Higgins,
For the sake of clarity, would you please let the faithful know if you support or approve of this gay pride parade being advertised in the parish bulletin? Do you support the idea of Catholics attending and marching in this gay parade? I notice and appreciate the fact that you took the precious time out of your extremely busy schedule to give Pope Francis’s entire quote. Father Higgins there are Catholics who will now interpret that it is fine for Catholics to march in gay pride parades. Once again, for the sake of clarity would you now please take the time to answer my question about advertising gay pride parades in Catholic bulletins. Father Higgins, How you would instruct a Catholic who wanted to attend a gay pride parade?
I think Father John’s position on this is perfectly clear.
Yes, anonymous this revealing article certainly screamed out for Father John Higgins to FIRST show “Fidelity to Jesus’s clear teachings in Sacred Scripture regarding homosexuality and St. Peter Damian’s clear writings regarding the terrible scourge of homosexual clergy. Faithful Catholics have ALWAYS welcomed everyone to the Refugium Peccatorum. Faithful Catholics see the handwriting on the wall and there are many clergy members who do want the acceptance of “all “of the qualities that are attached to this particular vice. To deny this is insulting to God who cannot be fooled or mocked. God expects his faithful shepherds to not hide out and deny Jesus like Peter did when the going got tough. God does not want his faithful shepherds to omit His complete statements that are found in Sacred Scripture regarding homosexuality.
“He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathers not with me, scattereth.” Luke 11:23
Father John Higgins took the time to remind us about the Pope’s entire quote but neglected to address the great big giant elephant in the room that has been brutally scourging Jesus’s Church in the same fashion that St. Peter Damian spoke about. If our clergy won’t speak up FIRST for Jesus’s revealed TRUTHS in Sacred Scripture’s regarding homosexuality when they see the handwriting on the wall then in the case of running away from this topic they have lost their flavor and this ties in with Our Lady of Akita’s loving and warning words regarding making “compromises.”
Father Higgins wrote “Take the Pope’s entire quote, not just half of it.”
Shouldn’t Our Lord’s ENTIRE quotes in Sacred Scripture be taught and not just half of it?”
So a priest writes that a gay person who lives the Church’s moral life (being chaste) should be accepted and you come unglued?
In reply to “JIM S—-
Is there any diocese in CA that has welcomed and promotes COURAGE?
This organization makes a Catholic offer and should be what Fr Kavcak, or any priest, encourages —NOT a gay parade.
Yes there are. San Diego probably has the strongest one, mostly in thanks to the efforts of Fr. Richard Perozich who helped get it started down there back in the 90s. In its 30+ years of existence, Courage/EnCOurage has of course been spot-on in its doctrinal clarity and the production of great resources. However, it has been behind on integrating good secular business practices in helping to promote this media, so thus there are many Catholic leaders who WOULD be open to promoting Courage/EnCourage at their parishes, it is just that they don’t know enough about the organization. Fr. Paul Check, the leader of the organization is helping to change this by adopting a Media Project. it is true also that there is opposition to the Courage apostolate by the Modernists who instead promote such LGBT “ministries” which are problematic and end up gravely dissenting from Church teaching and promoting immoral behavior and sacrilege against the Sacrament of Matrimony. Probably the best thing faithful Catholics can do along with prayer and living holy lives is to learn all they can about Courage/EnCourage. Start by watching the conferences on YouTube (there is a great talk by Cardinal Burke there from the 2011 conference). Then start buying faithful Catholic leaders in your diocese good resources. The new DVD “The Desire of the Everlasting Hills” is a great one that can be purchased in large quantities inexpensively. Here are the contacts for the chapters in the California dioceses: https://couragerc.org/category/countries/united-states/california/?post_type%5B0%5D=fiat-chapter&post_type%5B1%5D=fiat-echapter Don’t give up!
If gay land lesbian Catholics in Palm Springs want to organize and build a float and join the parade, it’s no big deal. It has no Church sanction. Moreover, it is highly unlikely that Fr. Kavcak will be stripping down to his shorts and joining them on the float, Roman collar and all. That’s a horse of different color. We should all pray for each other.
Judging from the picture, the Palm Springs parade revelers are far tamer than
San Francisco, which allows nudity.
Sorry Anonymous, promoting the Mortal Sin of Sodomy (or other mortal sin) is not permissible for any Catholics.
We know you are not Catholic, so why don’t you just go to an LGBT site, you will not win followers here.
If the marching group is allowed to use the term “Catholic,” ultimately they represent the Church and the bishop would be responsible for such.
Remember when sodomites just wanted to be left alone, and nothing more? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Remember when sodomites just wanted to be allowed to serve in the military, and nothing more? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Remember when sodomites just wanted to be able to serve openly in the military, and nothing more? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Remember when sodomites said, “Just give us ‘civil unions’ for our filthy perverted lifestyle choice, we don’t want to get ‘married’”? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Remember when sodomites said, “Just allow us to marry so we can have the same property rights as heterosexual married couples, we don’t want anything more”? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Remember when sodomites said, “Just allow us to adopt boys, like heterosexual married couples do, we don’t want anything more”? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Remember when sodomites said, “Just allow us into the Boys Scouts, like heterosexuals are allowed, we don’t want anything more”? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Remember when our boys could play outside all day without fear of being kidnapped and raped by demonic sodomites who, though only 2% of the population, make up 33% of all child sex abusers? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
BRAVO, juergensen.
When any mortal sin is permitted or overlooked it festers and spreads like gangrene,
We must never let mortal sin go untreated.
How does that song go, again? We sung it at Catholic Summer Camp… “They’ll know we are Christians by our love.”
I wonder if anyone could guess that the above posts -filled with insults and name calling, hubristic claims that we know who is and is not going to hell- was written by self-proclaimed Christians.
Perhaps the song needs to be changed?
Jesus, Himself will be the final judge of each of us at our personal death.
He will determine Heaven, Purgatory (for needed purification), or Hell.
This is just since He was crucified for each of us.
Jesus said many will not be Saved.
You guys are not kidding anyone.
If those trolls (including yourself St, Peter, and YFC, ) promoting the homosexual lifestyle (MORTAL SIN) would stay off Catholic web sites, there would be peace.
You lie, pretend to be Catholic, yet violate the Catholic Faith by your promotion and support of acts of Sodomy, etc.
Then YOU have the nerve to state or insinuate that others are bad Catholics.
If you think you can bully faithful Catholics into silence by pretending you are holier than thou, you have another thing coming. \
We know the truth, and your Soul is black. Hope you repent in time.
Dan,
I hardly think I’ve bullied anyone ever on this site. On the other hand, I’ve had complete strangers on this website call me a liar (based on what, I have no idea), and have been told I am not a Catholic, as though members of this board had sudden powers of excommunication.
I really DO think that threatening strangers with fire and brimstone, making broad statements about an entire class of people, using insulting words and stereotypes, as has been done by a multitude of posters above, DOES make one a bad Catholic . It’s probably much in the same way you think that my feeling that Catholics in a pride parade make for bad Catholics.
Should all people agree with me, no. Certainly not. I am sure that my ways are not God’s ways, and my thoughts are not God’s thoughts. But I try to be loving, inclusive, and Christian the best I can, hoping that I am approaching God’s ways and God’s thoughts. I guess I’m asking that some of the extreme voices on this site practice a little bit of humility and charity.
St. Peter, those who are trying to keep you out of Hell (based upon your own posts supporting sodomy) are very charitable to put up with you.
They are trying to save your soul.
This is being inclusive – inviting you not to sin.
If you ever do decide to be loving, you will also want everyone to get to Heaven for eternity.
Dan I think it is not a realistic or reasonable to ask that gay people stay off a “catholic” website when that website actually has little to do with catholic spirituality or practice. It is really a website aimed at fighting culture wars from a far right catholic perspective. Except for the “Churches to visit” pieces and the occasional one-offs like the monks CD piece 2 weeks or so ago, there is really very little about prayer, the sacramental life, the lives of the saints, outreach to the poor or the unbelievers, or any kind of inspiration. When is the last time you can remember a piece on the life of Christ that wasn’t aimed at finding some supposed heresy in the treatment given by some supposedly heretical priest?
Most days there is at least one piece that is either directly about gay people, or is commandeered in the commbox into becoming one. If you think you can talk about gay people behind our backs, think again. Want me to go away and find a truly spiritual web home? Then stop talking about us. Simple as that.
When I sit next to you in the pews every week, I’m not there for any purpose other than to worship and to receive the graces offered there. But if I heard the kinds of nastiness that passes for “catholic” there that I do here, you bet I would stand up and make my presence known.
“St. Peter” and “Your Fellow Catholic”: Your efforts to attack “Dan” are unavailing. In fact, your apparent purpose in commenting on this Catholic site is to try to distort what the Faith says about homosexuality, and the proper place for homosexuals in the Church.
“Dan” is further correct in that you do lie, and you do seek to support the rights of sodomites within the context of the Catholic Faith. Certainly, based on very recent court decisions, the civil governments no longer can prohibit your base, and unnatural sexual activities. Yet, you take this kind of legal recognition, and attempt — always under the word “love” — to transpose it into the Catholic Faith.
Of Course, many, many Catholic clergy adore your efforts and want to turn Catholicism around to accomodate your needs and to recognize your “gifts”. Sadly, you do not reflect on the sinfulness of your behavior, and the scandal that you cause by actively participating in Catholic religious services. Dan’s invitation to leave is only that; no one can physically keep you from infecting the Catholic atmosphere by your sophistry.
You shout and scream about defending this and that, but to what purpose? It is no different than Lucifer bemoaning his fall from Heaven. What you do is evil. The Church needs to always hold out the hope of salvation, and the means of repentance to every sinner. But you need to recognize the true insult to God that homosexual sex represents. Repent, confess your sins, and tell your friends to do the same. Leave “Dan” and other Catholic commentors alone; your attacks smack of HomoFascism, with no purpose but harassment.
“I’m not there for any purpose other than to worship and to receive the graces offered there. ”
If at all true, this is even more evidence of why you are not receiving those graces due to your mortally sinful homosexual activism. You are a PROUD REBELLIOUS SINNER, who is locked in his own blindness. One cannot mock and spit on God’s laws and then claim to worship Him at the same time. Only a blinded habitually sinning seared conscience thinks that illogically.
This is why St. Peter Damian said, “In fact, after this most poisonous serpent once sinks its fangs into the unhappy soul, sense is snatched away, memory is borne off, the sharpness of the mind is obscured. It becomes unmindful of God and even forgetful of itself.”
YFC, because (as you have posted in the recent past) you support and promote sodomy marriage, you do not receive any Grace.
To receive sacramental grace, one may not be in the state of Mortal Sin.
CCC: ” 1861 Mortal sin is a radical possibility of human freedom, as is love itself. It results in the loss of charity and the privation of sanctifying grace, that is, of the state of grace.
If it is not redeemed by repentance and God’s forgiveness, it causes exclusion from Christ’s kingdom and the eternal death of hell, for our freedom has the power to make choices for ever, with no turning back. …”.
I hope for your sake that you do change your ways, and confess your sins with a purpose of amendment not to commit those sins again, so that you can receive Grace.
,
Those who do their best to adhere to the Bible and CCC are not conservative, but Faithful Catholics.
Those who purposely go against these teachings commit grave sin.
Palm Springs is located within the Diocese of San Bernardino.
The Bishop responsible for everything “Catholic” within this Diocese is GERALD R. BARNES.
Send him this article, and ask him what he intends to do about this Parish supporting and promoting the advertising of homosexual acts in a public homosexual parade.
I already wrote a very thorough but charitable letter to Bishop Barnes about this over 2 years ago and received no reply. What next?
The old Alinsky political maneuver which was used so successfully on the abortion issue.
1. Infiltrate
2. Usurp the label of “Catholic”—as in “Catholics for Free Choice” or “Catholics for Gay Pride”
3. Form an insider club like “San Bernardino Diocese Gay Ministry” Hold gay potlucks at parishes.
4. Solicit funds for the gay group and become powerful financially
5. Takeover
Thanks for the timely reminder Anna. What I truly find repugnant is the faux sense of outrage at being treated so ‘croooooo-elly by the ‘uncharitable’ people here to a ‘persecuted’ minority who only want to worship the Lord and bring peace to the world. What always comes to my mind when I read these nauseating posts is the image of Gollum convincing Frodo that he loves Master and would never hurt him and that it was Sam being so crooooooo-el to him, all the while plotting to lead Frodo to be eaten by a stinking , bulbous spider.
Members of this priests parish and catholic community should petition to have this man removed from his post. We are supposed to be the Church Militant. Lets get militant and have these gay alliant priests ousted. They are not serving the Church or those members who try to adhere to Our Lords call to be Holy as our Heavenly Father is Holy. They bring shame and more confusion to all catholics who truly love their Church.
To the Facebook posters who claim that Pope Francis did not say who he was talking about when he said “Who am I to judge?”:
The pope was asked about what has been described as a “gay lobby” in the Vatican, allegedly a group of priests and bishops who work at the Vatican and protect each other. Pope Francis said it was important to “distinguish between a person who is gay and someone who makes a gay lobby.”
“A gay person who is seeking God, who is of good will — well, who am I to judge him?” the pope said. “The Catechism of the Catholic Church explains this very well. It says one must not marginalize these persons, they must be integrated into society. The problem isn’t this (homosexual) orientation — we must be like brothers and sisters. The problem is something else, the problem is lobbying either for this orientation or a political lobby or a Masonic lobby.”
https://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1303303.htm
We must love the Sinner, and HATE the Sin.
We must never tolerate MORTAL SIN of any kind.
One of the most misquoted passages in the Bible is Jesus regarding judging.
Far too often the Secular Media and individuals misquote Jesus because they only hear what they want to hear,
or because they have not read Sacred Scripture in entirety.
What JESUS really said regarding JUDGING – is to take the log out of one’s own eye PRIOR to taking the splinter out of the eyes of others – so that we will see clearly.
He did NOT say we should not take the splinter out of the eyes of others.
Please read these verses in full for completeness and accuracy:
Mt 7:5; and Lk 6:42.
JESUS never said that we should not judge sin.
These are verses that people do not pay attention to:
Mt 7:5 JESUS – – “You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.”
Lk 6:42 JESUS – – ” Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Brother, let me take out the speck that is in your eye,’ when you yourself do not see the log that is in your own eye?”
You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take out the speck that is in your brother’s eye. “
LOVE is NOT TOLERANCE – Bishop Fulton J. Sheen
” Christian love bears evil, but it does not tolerate it.
Christian love bears evil, but it does not tolerate it.
It does penance for the sins of others, but it is not broadminded about sin.
The cry for tolerance never induces it to quench its hatred of the evil philosophies that have entered into contest with the Truth.
It forgives the sinner, and it hates the sin; it is unmerciful to the error in his mind.
The sinner it will always take back into the bosom of the Mystical Body;
but his lie will never be taken into the treasury of His Wisdom.
Real love involves real hatred:
whoever has lost the power of moral indignation and the urge to drive the buyers and sellers from the temples
has also lost a living, fervent love of Truth.
Charity, then, is not a mild philosophy of “live and let live”;
it is not a species of sloppy sentiment.
Charity is the infusion of the Spirit of God,
which makes us love the beautiful and hate the morally ugly. “
Maybe we are not doing enough penance.
“Anonymous”, since you continue to use the name a heretic uses on this site, purposely to cause confusion – perhaps you need to do more penance.
Speak for yourself.
Please Read –
Regarding homosexual acts:
Gen 19:1-29; Rom 1:24-27; 1 Cor 6:10; 1 Tim 1:10; Jude 1:7
and
CCC: 2357, 2358, 2359
and
CCC: ” 2396 Among the sins gravely contrary to chastity are masturbation, fornication, pornography, and homosexual practices.”
GRAVE SINS are MORTAL SINS.
Sodomites are a danger to children, statistically proven to be 17.5 times more likely to sexually abuse children than are normal people.
http://www.tinyurl.com/HomoAbusers
What are the statistics regarding the danger of Priests’ likelihood? After all, 100% of the clergy sex abuse were by priests. 100% were by men. Perhaps we should have a priestless church, or have only female clergy. By your logic.
Glad you brought this up. The John Jay Report confirmed that 90% of the priests who sexually abused children sexually abused BOYS. Since 100% of priests are MALE, this means 90% of the priest sex abuse was BY HOMOSEXUALS. Ban HOMOSEXUALS from the priesthood and 90% of the sex abuse is gone!
juergensen, you are incorrect. The John Jay Report (fig 3.5.3) shows that 64% of priest abusers abused males only, and 22.6% abused females only. Again, by far, the common denominator was the maleness of the abusers, and their participation in the priesthood.
YFC, by the statistics you used, are you proud that 64% of the Priests who sexual abused boys were/are HOMOSEXUAL PEDOPHILES?
Sounds like you got the undisputed majority in your corner.
(While 22.6% preferred females, and that only adds up to 88.6% – which means the remaining must have been bisexual.)
No Rich, I’m not proud of any of this. No one should be proud of the pedophile problem in our church or the way it was handled. we should be disgusted and do everything we can to discover pedophiles and remove them from the priesthood. My point is that 1) the 90% quotation was a lie, and that 2) even if you remove all homosexual priests, you do not by a long shot eliminate the problem. Instead, you leave many pedephiles in place, and you remove very many priests who are completely innocent. I think the maximum figure is that 4% of priests were found to be pedophiles (way too high, for sure). The percentage of gay priests is thought to be at least 20-40%. Eliminating classes of people doesn’t solve the problem, it just creates other problems.
Wrong, the John Jay Report found that “81% of the victims were MALE,” and since 100% of the priests were MALE, it was an overwhelmingly HOMOSEXUAL problem.
Male + Male = HOMOSEXUAL PROBLEM
YFC. if you eliminate homosexual Priests, using your stats, we would get rid of 64% of the problem of child sexual abuse.
There should be NO Priests who fornicate, commit adultery, or practice homosexual acts.
They should all be defrocked – equally.
And any Priests who sexually abuse children belong in PRISON as well.
If you get rid of homosexual priests, you would get rid of about 64 % of male on male sexual abuse, potentially, but you would get rid of 20 times as many priests who are celibate. And you would still have 30% of the abusers in place. Why is this so hard to understand? If all the bank robbers rob banks with guns, then we should put in jail everyone who owns a gun? If all bank robbers wear masks, should we jail everyone who owns a mask?
LIFE SITE NEWS :How should Catholic parents deal with a difficult situation like this: when planning a Christmas family gathering with grandchildren present, parents are asked by their son, who is in a homosexual relationship, if he can come and bring with him his homosexual partner?
Applying these principles, how should parishes deal with open homosexual couples who approach to receive Holy Communion and who seek leadership roles within the parish?
Cardinal Burke: This is a very delicate question, and it’s made even more delicate by the aggressiveness of the homosexual agenda. But one has to approach this in a very calm, serene, reasonable and faith-filled manner. If homosexual relations are intrinsically disordered, which indeed they are — reason teaches us that and also our faith — then, what would it mean to grandchildren to have present at a family gathering a family member who is living [in] a disordered relationship with another person?
We wouldn’t, if it were another kind of relationship — something that was profoundly disordered and harmful — we wouldn’t expose our children to that relationship, to the direct experience of it. And neither should we do it in the context of a family member who not only suffers from same-sex attraction, but who has chosen to live out that attraction, to act upon it, committing acts which are always and everywhere wrong, evil.
And so, families have to find a way to stay close to a child in this situation — to a son or grandson, or whatever it may be — in order to try to draw the person away from a relationship which is disordered.
And we know that with time, these relationships leave the person profoundly unhappy. And so it’s important to stay [as] close as one can. But, that particular form of relationship should not be imposed upon family members, and especially upon impressionable children.
OK thank you for the quote. I had actually forgotten that the quote ends in what may be a lie by Cardinal Burke, “And we know that with time, these relationships leave the person profoundly unhappy.” Where does he get such nonsense? Is it because he has received misinformation? Surely he has an obligation to verify such things before he says them and offers them as part of pastoral medicine, no? If he has not received misinformation and has not sought out correct information, then he is intentionally making things up, or worse, telling a lie. Apparently he has missed all the dozens of stories of people together for decades and decades and the profound joy that people can derive from truly loving relationships. It’s just too bad that he had to go there, as it shows he has some bizarre need to justify splitting families apart. Cardinal Burke, would you like to come to my house for Thanksgiving so you can judge first hand the things about which you speak?
Bonnie and Clyde probably had terrific Thanksgiving dinners with their families. So what?
YFC, you have no clue what real LOVE is.
Love is not emotional or a fuzzy feeling.
Love is not furthering sexual desires (normal or homosexually debasing).
Love is not giving in to sexual temptations.
Love is wanting the very best for another.
* * Love is wanting that person to get to Heaven for eternity – first and foremost. * * Nothing else should matter.
Since you are helping your sexual partner go to Hell for eternity due to your lust and sexual debasement, – you do not love that person.
No matter how many dinners you have and how many children you teach to sin.
And it will indeed end badly for both of you if there is no repentance.
There is no love in mortal sin.
By the way YFC, read this regarding sin and families – if you care about Jesus’s teaching at all.
“JESUS the CAUSE of DIVISION” – Lk12:49-53.
Next you and your sexual partner are NOT FAMILY (and I don’t care what the Government says, because the Government is not going to help you get to Heaven.)
No one should tolerate Mortal Sin, and this is compounded when bad example is set for children.
You should spend the holidays with your family, and your sexual partner should spend the holidays with his.
AL it is impossible for you to know what my relationship is about, so you have zero evidence upon which to say that I have no idea what LOVE is. I have never described it in the way you have just said I describe it. If you follow my posts, you will see that I think you can tell where love is by its fruits. In fact, often by how I treat my partner’s family (with whom I have spent dozens of family gatherings) -which include tutoring their children, taking care of their elderly parents, helping them with medical appointments, etc. None of that is reflected in the caricature of me or my concept of LOVE that you present. Like many others, you can’t quite get the idea that a person’s sexuality is only one dimension of them, and indeed their sexuality is only one dimension of their RELATIONSHIPS.
If you are going to say such harsh things – that I have no idea what LOVE is, perhaps it is incumbant upon you to ask what I think LOVE is and what LOVE renders in my life.
” If you follow my posts, you will see that I think you can tell where love is by its fruits.” = Hell is not a fruit. You can tell by your posts that lust always rules over love. In fact, you hate your partner because you are dragging him to hell. If you love someone, you want the very best for them. You are choosing hell and that is not love.” For the wages of sin is death. But the grace of God, life everlasting, in Christ Jesus our Lord.”
Also by your standards a mother can commit a lifetime of adultery but as long as she keeps a clean house and drives her father in law to the doctor and tutors the neighbor’s kids then all is well because after all, she finds clouds of different aspects of happiness when committing her mortal sins.
No Catherine you disrespect me and my partner at every turn. Try judging yourself for a change.
Anyone who supports Sodomy Marriage is supporting Mortal Sin.
Anyone who supports Sodomy Marriage in the public media as you do YFC, is promoting a sinful lifestyle for others.
You do not receive Sacramental Grace, if you receive Holy Communion while in the state of mortal sin.
Since you have no intention of repenting, you will burn in Hell for eternity.
You do not love your partner since you want him to burn in hell with you.
YFC – It only takes one unrepented Mortal Sin to put you (and your partner in Hell) no matter what other good works you may do.
CCC: ” 1874 To choose deliberately – that is, both knowing it and willing it – something gravely contrary to the divine law and to the ultimate end of man is to commit a mortal sin.
This destroys in us the charity without which eternal beatitude is impossible. Unrepented, it brings eternal death. ”
You have been told YFC that homosexual acts are mortal sins.
You have been provided Sacred Scripture and Doctrine of the Faith (CCC) on this web site.
You can not claim ignorance regarding homosexual mortal sin.
And you support for Sodomy Marriage is an abomination.
This is a Non-Negotiable INTRINSIC EVIL.
Love is doing everything within your power to help others get to Heaven for eternity.
Sex has nothing to do with LOVE, yet YFC, in some of your posts you support Sodomy Marriage because of LOVE.
You have no clue what love is. You are helping send the person that you state you love most to HELL.
Completely and permanently abstain from SEX if truly love him.
YFC, I am not sure that you and your partner’s relationship is typical of gay relationships. And if you are chaste, as you say you are, then you would not be included in those who Cardinal Burke is talking about.
Anonymous, when an admittedly ‘gay’ man indicates that he has a spouse, that is, he considers himself ‘married’ to another man, the term chaste would not indicate continence. Chastity within ‘marriage’ is the spouses being mutually exclusive with each other with regard to sexual activity.
There are many Gay Pride parades that have Catholic participation.
Obviously, the Catholic bishops approve.
Here is a recent example,
https://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-06-29/news/chi-chicago-pride-parade-catholics-20140629_1_parishioners-pride-parade-chris-pett
PRIDE is a Mortal Sin;
in fact PRIDE is a Capital Sin.
CCC: ” 1866 Vices can be classified according to the virtues they oppose,
or also be linked to the capital sins which Christian experience has distinguished, following St. John Cassian and St. Gregory the Great.
They are called “capital” because they engender other sins, other vices.
They are PRIDE, avarice (greed), envy, wrath (anger),
lust, gluttony, and sloth (laziness) or acedia. ”
To be proud of living in the state of mortal sin is evil. It encourages others to do so.
There are at least 3 mortal sins – choosing to continue committing the moral sin, and being proud of it, and the scandal of encouraging others to do so.
One does not celebrate or be proud of temptations either (such as the temptation of same sex attraction.
Any Diocese Cardinal or Bishop who approves participating in or advertising the homosexual lifestyle also commits the grave sin of Scandal.
JESUS never promised that ALL Popes, ALL Cardinals, or ALL Bishops, or ALL PRIESTS will get to Heaven.
Someone needs to video this and put on Internet and send to Vatican.
So pleased to read the decision of the US Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit, issued today, upholding the bans on homosexual marriage in four midwestern states. See, DeBoer, et al. v. Snyder, et. al., C.A. Nos. 14-1341; 3057; 3463; 5291; 5297; 5818 (Nov. 6, 2014). The 2-1 opinion is certain to be the subject of further motions and appeal, including ultimately to the cowardly US Supreme Court. Given a split in the circuits (assuming that anticipated motions for an en banc hearing, or reconsideration, fail), it is highly likely that the SOCTUS will need to make a final decision on the merits of homosexual marriage.
The dissent is particularly venomous. Judge Martha Craig Daughtrey, a Clinton appointee, essentially accuses her colleagues of bad faith, arguing that all they had to do was cobble together a series of string cites to other federal cases on the subject, and presto-chango they were done. Here is what she also said, Op. at 55: “Because the correct result is so obvious, one is tempted to speculate that the majority has purposefully taken the contrary position to create the circuit split regarding the legality of same-sex marriage that could prompt grant of certiorari by the Supreme Court and an end to the uncertainly of status and interstate chaos that the current discrepancy in state laws threatens.”
As is too often the case, the federal court system shows us what it is, nothing more than a political lever to permit the party in power (or that nominated the judge) to exert the final coup d’grace to an execution. The dissent is whiny and execrable (although it is sure to get much liberal and homosexual praise; see, e.g., today’s “Towelroad” website).
As regards the recent 6th Circuit & Puerto Rico decisions in Favor of Marriage – Here is a Link to a PDF file detailing many if not all of the Attacks on Marriage and Faith underway in the Abomination and its underlings – and some of the attempts to Defend Marriage:
SEE
THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION’S ATTACKS ON RELIGIOUS FREEDOM, SANCTITY OF LIFE, MARRIAGE AND THE FAMILY
https://www.adfmedia.org/files/ObamaReligiousFreedomAttacks.pdf
St. Peter Damian and St. Catherine of Siena pray for us!
We’ve had enough of exhortations to be silent! “Cry out with a hundred thousand tongues. I see that the world is rotten because of silence.” St. Catherine of Siena
https://eponymousflower.blogspot.com/2014/11/benedictine-abbey-in-minnesota-2.html
Benedictine Abbey in Minnesota: 2 Missing Persons and About 230 Victims, Evidence of Financial Misconduct and Luxurious Living — No Apostolic Visitor
“Despite about 230 victims of sexual misconduct, not including predation upon vulnerable adults and college students, and two missing persons in the vicinity of St. John’s Abbey in Collegeville, there have been absolutely no arrests and no convictions. The Sheriff’s department has been overtly hostile to one of the victim’s relatives, and no wonder, the Sheriff is a St. John’s Abbey alumnus.
At approximately 11:00 pm and midnight on November 9, 2002, leaving Metten Court, a dormitory on the north end of St. John’s University campus in Collegeville, Minnnesota, Josh Guimond disappeared. His clothes, his wallet and car were all undisturbed. He has been missing for 12 years this November.
Joshua Wetterling also disappeared on October 22nd, 1989 in close by St. Joseph. Pine Curtain draws a connection between the Wetterlings and the a monk named Tom Gillespie. The concerned monk consoled the Wetterlings when their son disappeared.