The following April 15 posting comes from the late Father Malloy’s blog site, written by Gibbons Cooney.
On April 20, Mary Kay Henry, International President of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), will address the parishioners of San Francisco’s notorious Most Holy Redeemer Church. According to the parish bulletin, Henry’s subject will be “How Being Catholic Informs my Leadership.” Unsurprisingly for a speaker at Most Holy Redeemer, Ms. Henry is openly homosexual.
Ms. Henry’s Catholicism bears the same relation to Catholicism as same-sex marriage does to marriage, and in fact, Henry admits as much. On May 29, 2012, Henry told the Denver Post “I think of my church as the church of the people and not as the institutional hierarchy that has doctrines that are not connected to my faith.” In other words, her faith is something other than Catholicism.
That the doctrines “not connected to Henry’s faith” include the doctrine that homosexual acts are sinful and the doctrine that marriage is between one man and a woman goes without saying. But they are not unique. In an April 12, 2011 SEIU press release, opposing a congressional attempt to de-fund Planned Parenthood, Henry wrote:
“Planned Parenthood is an essential part of our nation’s healthcare system, yet a handful of ideologically-driven Members of Congress want to prevent millions of American women from receiving life-saving healthcare. Since its formation, Planned Parenthood has been a leader in providing access to services such as cancer screenings, annual exams and other important preventive services. Every dollar in federal funding goes toward preventive care. Simply put, Planned Parenthood saves lives.”
“Simply put, Planned Parenthood saves lives.” Obviously, another Catholic “doctrine not connected to Henry’s faith” includes the doctrine that human life is to be protected from conception until natural death.
Less than a year later, on February 13, 2012, writing as president of the SEIU, Henry urged Senator Barbara Boxer to vote against the Blunt Amendment. The Blunt amendment, written in response to the HHS contraception mandate, would have allowed employers to refuse to include contraception in health care coverage if it violated their religious or moral beliefs. It was defeated in the senate. Every Catholic bishop in the United States supported, and still supports, such a conscience exemption. As a result of the rejection of the Blunt Amendment, a number of Catholic universities and other institutions and persons were forced into suing the government in an effort to simply exercise their first amendment right to religious freedom, to be faithful to the Church. Yet Ms. Henry, who claims the name Catholic, used the considerable power of her union to oppose this.
Ms. Henry’s invitation is a particular slap at San Francisco’s Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone, chairman of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops Subcommittee for the Promotion and Defense of Marriage. On March 26 of this year, the day the Supreme Court heard arguments on the Proposition 8 case, the archbishop, joined by thousands of others, was speaking in front of the court against the redefinition of marriage. A scant two hours before, Ms. Henry, in the exact same spot, had been addressing a crowd in support of the redefinition of marriage–precisely the opposite message (see photo above, courtesy of SEIU Facebook page)..
Given her leadership role in opposing non-negotiable teachings of the Catholic Church it seems contradictory that Henry would title her talk “How Being Catholic Informs my Leadership.” It compels the obvious questions: 1) where she could have arrived at such a definition of what “Catholic” means, and 2) in what sort of “Catholic” environment could she have been practicing, that such a definition went unchallenged.
But when one learns that Henry has been a parishioner of Most Holy Redeemer since 2007, was indeed listed as a lector in the church at that time, the contradiction resolves itself, and the root of her understanding of “Catholicism” crystallizes….
As the inverted image of San Francisco’s St. Mary’s Cathedral, the counter-cathedral of Most Holy Redeemer becomes the source of inverted teaching. On November 23, 2009, we noted an article in the publication Metro Active San Jose, called “Gay Catholics Come Out.” The article profiled San Jose’s St. Julie Billiart church. The Metro wrote “(Fr. Jon) Pedigo said that as he started to notice the growing LGBT Catholic community that was coming to St. Julie’s, he decided to consult the established gay Catholic community at the Most Holy Redeemer Catholic Church in San Francisco’s Castro District.”
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Ex-communicate, De-Consecrate Burn to Ground, Remove Rubble, Salt the Land
Canisius watch what you say for your own sake please. I believe you are using hyperbole (an exaggeration), but If someone really did burn that church to the ground, you could be accused even if you did not do it.
Anne T . I have been accused of far worse….
Sorry, I misread your comment somewhat, Canisius. Of course you meant for the Church authorities to desacralize the church and not just anyone. Nevertheless, we all need to be careful what we say in these times when there are shooters on campuses and bombings in other places.
Only in a parallel universe could this creature in all her vileness really believe that she’s part of the Mystical Body of Christ,which, oddly enough, the society in 21st century Amerika seems to be morphing into, that is, a parallel universe. And it’s such a lunatic milieu, this parallel uiverse of Mary Kay, that this person can say with presumably a straight face, ” I think of my church as a church of the people and not as the institutional hierarchy that has doctrines that are not connected to my faith.” Once again, where is this chick coming from, maybe the planet Mary Kay Henry? Talk about self-serving narcissism! Mary Kay is marinating in such! And can such unhingedness as Mary Kay exhibits be reason to fit her for possibly a straightjacket insteadof parading around as the International President of SEIU. Of course, the possibility I guess exists that all the rest of SEIU is just as nutters as she is; cetainly some of their actions during the first Obama presidential campaign seemed very much that way. Remember some of the undercover stuff that was done EXPOSING SEIU was pretty poerful and kind of exposed an organization that was brazenly corrupt and clueless. Will the new Abp. Cordileone stand for such drivel as exits her oral cavity, or will he SLAP HER DOWN, as she appears to be unconciously asking for? Who knows anymore, as our country seems to be spiraling down and down into a ferocious maelstrom of moral insanity. GOD BLESS AND PROTECT ALL, MARKRITE
“I think of my church as a church of the people “: no mystery here at all. Hers is the church of the world, the flesh and the devil … ie “church of the people”. People without Christ are “world, flesh and devil”. Christ alone frees us from this condition. These demoniac representatives typically show their hand, ie provide their credentials, hold forth their identities. You simply have to look for it in their words and/or actions.
OK, Abp. Cordileone, the ball is in your court. Let’s see what you got.
I was an employee of a medium-large municipality. One day a knock came at my door. I opened, my wife says that two SEIU representatives walked in uninvited. I remember feeling threatened. They had all my personal information, which I regarded as confidential. I asked where they got it. I think they replied that they had ways of getting the information. They proceeded to try to recruit me to join their local, for a previously unrepresented work unit.
I recalled that Bill Clinton’s favorite Georgetown professor, Carroll Quigley, wrote in his monumental “Tragedy and Hope”, that when Henry Ford self-capitalized by raising wages so workers could buy Ford cars, the effect was for represented blue collar labor to collude with management to the disadvantage of unrepresented white collar labor. That latter group formed the nucleus of support for Sen. Joseph McCarthy. Sure enough, several generations later, as a member of the clerk class, I’m mindful that revelations from declassified Soviet intelligence archives and the Venona Transcripts now show that McCarthy was accurate in his assertions about communist infiltration of the American State Department, even in the numbers he cited.
At the time those SEIU labor racketeers invaded my home, the morally corrupt leadership was principally represented by Anna Burger, SEIU International Secretary-Treasurer. Burger, along with former SEIU International President, Andy Stern, was involved with Change to Win, prominent client-supporters of President Obama’s gangster Department of Labor. I posed my objections to the leadership to the aggressive recruiters, to no effect.
So when these thugs pushed their way into my home, they crossed the wrong line in the sand. It happened that I had a back-office source of the same information about my work unit colleagues. I put together a flyer using easily accessible public information, showing how internecine warfare among various SEIU factions would harm our work unit. I sent the flyer anonymously to a majority of our work unit’s members.
SEIU never succeeded in organizing us.
LifeSiteNews, Thursday, April 18, 2013:
Labor Secretary nominee Thomas Perez uses office to prosecute pro-lifers, promote political agenda
Good for you Rod McKuen . I’m glad that you weren’t fooled by them.. Now if only many of our church leadership would view this and discern well.
Has this article been sent to Abp Cordileone (San Francisco Diocese) ?
He has the authority and last say what happens in all the Catholic Parishes of his Diocese.
The following article can be found on the net regarding UNIONS – “Union leaders line up behind same-sex ‘marriage,’ Obama” – LifeSiteNews. (Oct 2012)
“The UAW, AFL-CIO, SEIU, AFSCME, and other top unions have issued statements supporting same-sex “marriage.”
Billions of dollars in Union dues are used to promote candidates who support same-sex marriage and abortion.
It is past time for US Bishops to start publically excommunicating heretics and schismatics who give such SCANDAL, or they will never learn and will continue to cause confusion amongst poorly catechized Catholics and non-Catholics -and propagate relativism within the Church.
Canon 1399: “In addition to the cases established here or in other laws, the external violation of a divine or canonical law can be punished by a just penalty only when the special gravity of the violation demands punishment and there is an urgent need to prevent or repair scandals.”
Canon 915: “Those who have been excommunicated or interdicted after the imposition or declaration of the penalty and others obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to holy communion.”
QUOTE: ” Finally, the canonical laws by their very nature must be observed.” UNQUOTE.
APOSTOLIC CONSTITUTION SACRAE DISCIPLINAE LEGES
of the SUPREME PONTIFF POPE JOHN PAUL II for the PROMULGATION
of the NEW CODE OF CANON LAW (1983).
I have three questions: Why did the pastor of Most Holy Redeemer allow her to be invited to speak? Why do those who disdain and ridicule the Catholic Faith remain and in the Church? Doesn’t Archbishop Cordileone have any control over the clergy in his diocese?
Sarah, I, too, wonder why Father Bryan Costello would allow this controversial person to speak at his parish.
He knows full well the history of conflict, trouble, pastor-removal, etc., that Most Holy Redeemer has gone through — you would think he’d know better than to allow more scandal.
Father is a very kind man, but in this particular assignment he will have to be very firm about certain things that get a “yes” and other things that get a “no.” Otherwise, the faithful will get mighty confused, and the reputation of his parish as a place of dissent will just continue.
Do not confuse kindness for a weak faith.
We are always wondering…..so much confusion that priests and leadership higher just bring about. Are they not in touch with what is hurting our morality? God have mercy on us all….especially those who are mislead by the blind. May our Lord help us see better…for we all can be mislead and I pray for our Lord mercy upon us all. But many a times, we should just know better, especially the elders….it’s our youth who are often mislead. God help us all.
“Let them alone: they are blind, and leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into the pit. ” Matthew 15:14
Pro-gay marriage priest defrocked
16 April 2013
“A priest in Argentina has been defrocked after voicing support in public for gay marriage. Nicolás Alessio was suspended in 2010 when the Government’s same-sex marriage legislation was being debated. The legislation was bitterly opposed by the Church in Argentina, led by the then Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio who was elected Pope last month.
A statement from Mr Alessio’s local archdiocese of Córdoba said the decision to defrock him was made by the Vatican’s Congregation for the Clergy in February, during the pontificate of Benedict XVI. “Thirty years of service to God’s people mean nothing,” Mr Alessio said in response. “I had a different opinion from the archbishop [of Córdoba, Carlos José Ñáñez] and so they have chucked me out.”
Leading people to sin is not ‘service to people of God’ its the opposite.
Pro-sodomy, pro-“gay marriage”, pro-Planned Parenthood and welcome at a Catholic Church? Put Archbishop Cordileone’s feet to the fire on this one. Call his office at 415-614-5500. Fax him at 415-614-5555. Email him at info(at)sfarchdiocese.org. Write him at One Peter Yorke Way, San Francisco CA 94109.
This event is scheduled for this coming Saturday. It can be cancelled by Archbishop Cordileone.
I am not holding my breath. Bishops are too afraid of suffering. All of them, the comfort of their high office is too precious.
bwangi you sure say a lot of things that are wisdom filled….God bless you…it is refreshing to read them…
Oh how the devil and his followers mock the Blessed Virgin Mary and God. They take every advantage they can to spit on the Holy Cross and defame our Lord. Here a homosexual, named after our Blessed Virgin Mary defies and disobeys God’s holy truth (reference St. Paul’s Epistle to the Romans Ch 1 vs 26-32) of His being offended by homosexuality, and also defyies God’s holy commandment, thou shalt not kill by her support and endorsement of Planned Parenthood, the largest abortion mill (killing machine) in the world; is invited to talk at a christian? church. What a mockery of the Blessed Mother and our Lord. The pastor and his followers permitting this heresey need to be corrected by their local bishop, but unfortunately don’t expect any such thing as they are all conspiring together. Don’t fret though, God’s justice will be served in the end; however we do need to pray for their souls and those of our children being deceived by the devil and his followers.
Cardinal Timothy Dolan is correct in recently stating that upholding traditional teachings about marriage is not an excuse for hating or disparaging gays and lesbians. There is a lot of that here today. We need to reach out to them, even as we treasure our rich tradition of two gender marriages that has survived the ages.
Yes, good cause, Jesus reached out to sinners and he said “sin no more”.
You confuse hate for sin with hate for people.
Good grief….Lord help us….
It looks to me as if the only action that will do any good regarding the parish involved is to dissolve it completely. But that wouldn’t solve the core problem which is dissent from or ignorance of Church teachings there. The archbishop’s handling of this parish will be a good indicator of many of his policies and actions in the future. One can hope for action, but it’s more likely he will move more slowly than many would prefer. If he just closed the parish, the problem would be dispersed, and harder to deal with. That’s why I think he will wait and formulate an effective plan.
ABC’s office was notified yesterday of this terrible event and this website.
This reactionary attitude is why thousands of Catholics leave the church. It is shocking to me that some individuals profess love , forgiveness and peace in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and yet continue set an example of hate. There is no room for it, that is the bottom line.
You may not agree with some of our fellow Catholic’s opinions however, as Catholics is is our responsibility to follow what Jesus wants, Love your Brother and in this case your sister. I”m so disappointed in the rhetoric of these types of posts ,the spewing of hate some couched as anti Union sentiment. There is reference to vileness…….interesting, it looks like nothing was learned from the biblical story of so long ago regarding casting the ” first stone”
I’m a Catholic. A Catholic who is ashamed of the hate and bitterness of
the Church, some Catholic so called Leaders and some of the parishioners. I will remain a Catholic realizing that Humans run the church, they aren’t perfect, shouldn’t judge and are losing their way of love, peace and a just society.
You sound awful judgmental and self-righteous, Dee. You’d better re-read the whole New Testament before you start judging your neighbors and fellow Catholics, and pray 15 decades of the Rosary before you start calling for love, peace , justice and the American way. I’m surprised you thing it’s humans running the Church, Dee. Actually, I’m shocked. I always thought Jesus was our head and Bridegroom. Dee, I hope you seek a priest and confession and we’ll all pray for you. Also, if I may be so bold, I recommend some time away…perhaps as an aid with the Missionaries of Chariety, where you can get some first hand insight into what real Catholocism is all about. Peace. (fingers in a Vee)
Dee sinners who don’t want to change or refuse to seek God’s truth leave the faith too…..ask Jesus….He will tell you how many walked away especially when as stated in John 6:66 “After this many of his disciples went back; and walked no more with him. ”
also in John 6:64 “But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning, who they were that did not believe, and who he was, that would betray him”
Those who follow Jesus lead by example, those that live lifestyles contrary to our Lord’s plan are only traitors and should not be allowed to speak or teach at our parishes. It gives a bad witness and misleads many! This is common sense! A decent man, although a sinner understands this and will not mislead others even if he himself is struggling with himself….
Have you not read where He said “Get thee behind me Satan”, or “ye devils, full of deads men’s bones…”, or “in the last days he will say to them on his left, go you into the eternal fires of Hell prepared for the fallen angels and their followerers” etc. etc., or do you just chose to ignore those Scriptural Passages that go against your mistaken vision of Our Lord as a nice, nice, patsy of a Church that no longer teaches the fullness of the Faith?
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Dee, Catholics can never approve Mortal Sin.
Mortal sin without repentance sends Souls to Hell for eternity.
If you love your neighbors as commanded by Jesus, you will want them to go to Heaven.
All Catholics who believe in supporting homosexual acts are heretics and/or schismatics. This is what you purport to be. You do not believe in the Bible, Tradition of the Church, or the Magisterium.
Three of the Spiritual Works of Mercy include: Admonishing Sinners, Instructing the Uniformed, and Counseling the Doubtful.
Please read: Holy Scripture – Rom 1:24-27; 1 Cor 6:9-10; 1 Tim 1:10.
‘Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition’ paragraphs 2357, 2358, 2359, 2396.
CCC: ” 1868 Sin is a personal act. Moreover, we have a responsibility for the sins committed by others when we cooperate in them:
– by participating directly and voluntarily in them;
– by ordering, advising, praising, or approving them;
– by not disclosing or not hindering them when we have an obligation to do so;
– by protecting evil-doers.
Dee did admonish the sinner and he got his head handed back to him. but Jesus sees everything.
To repeat a comment I submitted above: Jesus said, “sin no more”.
God Bless us “reactionaries”… smash the homo-sex mafia in the Church
You and others like you consider anything you disagree with “hate” and throw the word around loosely. How does it feel to be a self appointed expert, based on feelings, in the “One, Holy, Apostolic and Catholic” Church. Many Saints died for the faith you mock. Anytime I defend my faith on line I get so many responses calling me a hater. I don’t hate people, I hate sins and recognize it when I see it. I don’t know how it feels to call everyone a hater. Does it feel pretty good?
Google Pope Francis Battle with the Devil
Anita, this is a response about your post, not directly aimed at you. I wonder how it feels to constantly go around calling everyone ELSE sinners? It’s not something I can get my head around. I was always taught to take the log out of my eye before I take the speck out of my neighbor’s eye. But I seem to be one of the few who have heard that Gospel.
We must never tolerate sin.
We must never support sin.
Your Fellow Catholic, you are misinterpreting the Holy Scripture if you think we must sit back and not denounce evil unless we are perfect at all times and in all things.
CCC: “1868 Sin is a personal act. Moreover, we have a responsibility for the sins committed by others when we cooperate in them:
– by participating directly and voluntarily in them;
– by ordering, advising, praising, or approving them;
– by not disclosing or not hindering them when we have an obligation to do so;
– by protecting evil-doers. “
And please excuse all my typos. My goodness, but my fingers don’t listen anymore!
In Pennsylvania, the Catholic Church and the bishops have a tradition of being sympathetic to labor unions. Many churches also helped striking miners. The mine strike of 1902 is an example. George Baer, the president of the Reading Railroad, which controlled half of the anthracite mines stated, “The rights and interests of the laboring man will be protected and cared for , not by labor agitators, but by the Christian men to whom God in His infinite wisdom has given the control of the property interests.” In regard to the miners he had this view, “They don’t suffer, why they can’t even speak English.” President Theodore Roosevelt tried to help end the strike. He had this to say about George Baer, “If it wasn’t for the high office I hold, I would have taken him by the seat of the breeches and the nape of the neck and chucked him out of the window. ” After a time the miners and owner agreed to arbitration and thus President Roosevelt helped to end the strike. Many of the miners were Irish, Polish, Slovak and other Slavic Catholics and they were supported by the Church.
Mark from PA, the Church in general supports fair wages for fair work; reasonable working conditions, etc. This includes Union support when necessary.
However in this 21st century in the USA, working hours, wages, and benefits are no longer a serious issue with most companies.
However, today FORCED Union dues are used to support the evil of abortion, contraception, same-sex marriage, etc. rather than reasonable working conditions.
Freedom demands that people should not be FORCED to join Unions in order to work.
Everyone, be certain that your own Diocese Bishop knows: ” “The UAW, AFL-CIO, SEIU, AFSCME, and other top unions have issued statements supporting same-sex “marriage.” Send them the article from the internet: ” “Union leaders line up behind same-sex ‘marriage,’ Obama” – LifeSiteNews. (Oct 2012)
Anne do you really believe that “in this 21st century” that wages are not longer an issue for Catholics who follow Humane Vitae? Wage disparities are higher now than they have been in decades. Yet except for the Nuns on the Bus, we hear very few Church folk raising those kinds of issues. Please try raising a family of 6 or 8 on the $8 an hour that Starbucks pays.
CCC: ” 2434 A just wage is the legitimate fruit of work. To refuse or withhold it can be a grave injustice.
In determining fair pay both the needs and the contributions of each person must be taken into account.
Remuneration for work should guarantee man the opportunity to provide a dignified livelihood for himself and his family on the material, social, cultural and spiritual level, taking into account the role and the productivity of each, the state of the business, and the common good. Agreement between the parties is not sufficient to justify morally the amount to be received in wages.”
Note: fair wages must include —the individual’s contribution.
Making and serving coffee at $3 to $4.50 a cup does not help others with the necessities of life. Coffee at these prices is merely a luxury.
The majority of those working Starbucks at their lower wages do not have large families. Starbucks actively supports homo-sexual marriage, and contraception and voluntary sterilization with our tax dollars via OBAMACARE.
Your Fellow Catholic, I think union are important as they represent the middle class. How many middle class people sit in the Senate and the House of Representatives? Millionaires are well represented there. Middle class people, not so much. Wages are no longer an issue for many in Congress. How many of the millionaires in Congress vote for increases in the minimum wage? Many Catholics are glad for the witness of the Nuns on the Bus and our other religious sisters who live lives of poverty in witness to Christ.
Unions do NOT represent the middle class in the USA.
They are no longer about fair wages for fair work.
They are about electing politicians who support evil – abortion, euthanasia, same-sex marriage (sodomy), etc.
People are FORCED to support this evil through FORCED union dues if they want to work. – This is against FREEDOM, as well as Church Teaching.
So YFC should the government now control what we are paid…
“nuns on the bus” clipped haired pant suited valkries, who practice wicca and reject Christ
Canisius, I understand from your postings here that you dislike nuns but saying that they practice Wicca is just nonsense. If these women didn’t believe in Christ they wouldn’t have become Catholic nuns. Actually when women become nuns they are told that they are “brides of Christ.”
PA it’s not always the case as you describe it….You haven’t been around much judging from your comments….there are few instances that what Canisius stated..is true….do you not know that nuns are human too and not perfect.
If what you say is true then have you forgotten the molestation scandals that some priests committed? Priests have a special role just like the nuns but they are still human beings capable of sinning… that is why we need to remember to pray for them.
Well PA, I guess you precious “feelings” were protected by the sisters. No I did not go to Catholic School, I have a GED as I left home before graduation and went into the service. My few experiences with “sisters” has been negative, like the one at the parish were I personally removed the rainbow flag and replaced it with a picture of Our Lady and the Christ Child. She was most upset with me, she was eventually removed from the Parish by the new young priest who took over. I considered it a personally victory….
PA always in a rush to defend the dissenters…I dislike these nuns and their pro-gay, pro-abortion agenda, there are plenty of other orders that are Faithful to Christ and His Church. And please do me a favor quit wagging your finger trying to school me in a lesson. I know more about the Church than you will 3 lifetimes
Abeca Christian, I certainly know that nuns are human and not perfect. When I was in school I witnessed children sometimes being treated unfairly and I also witnessed children being hit by one of my teachers. She was a very hard working sister and in some respects was a good teacher but she sinned in hitting children. It is not right to strike a child. So I had respect for the sisters but also developed a strong sense of right and wrong from things that I witnessed. So yes, nuns are not perfect but they should be respected for dedicating their lives to Christ. I have known many nuns who were excellent teachers and good role models. Canisius, did you go to Catholic school? Do you know any sisters well? I don’t know how many sisters you have known. I don’t know of any nuns that are pro-abortion. From my experience nuns feel that gay people should be treated with respect and compassion and not discriminated against. This is pretty much what the Church teaches. As a student I never heard any sister say anything against gay people.
Canisius, thank you for your comment of 4/21. 6:45 PM. Now I know a little bit of where you are coming from. It is too bad that you didn’t have any positive experiences with nuns. I tend to see religious sisters as individuals. Abeca Christian, you say that I haven’t been around much but when it comes to nuns, I do have experience and know what I am talking about. I went to Catholic school for 12 years and for 10 of those years, most of the time I was in a classroom with a nun. They were very educated and hard working women. When I was in grade school the nuns wore medieval habits that went down to the floor, with their hair completely covered by a veil and blinders that hindered their eyesight. When I was in high school they wore modified habits or navy blue dresses with shorter veils. Some of the sisters drove by the time when I was in high school and they couldn’t have worn the older style habits to drive as it would have been a safety hazard.
PA the lay faithful should be respected as well for upholding church teachings as stated in the CCC and holy scriptures. I often see here those interfering with those who stand up for the truth on moral issues, they often get disrespected (and frankly we seek not respect but the truth) and with that disservice we often find so much confusion spewed out onto those who are vulnerable and still learning the truth.
PA when you use the propaganda/activism word “gay”…..it tells a lot and it is an agenda word/theology that is the enemy of the churches mission and of the natural law( that God placed and intended for mankind.)….we have gone over this before with you many times…it’s not like you haven’t been told….as imperfect as we all are…we still have a duty and moral obligation to seek out of salvation and ask God to help us work out our salvation…even with fear and trembling…so that our imperfections can be moved towards God (Truth) and be perfected in Him alone!
A labor union that promote homosexuality and abortion is an agent of evil.
The large labor UNIONS do not only promote EVIL – they use the forced union dues to further their evil agenda.
It is no longer about fair wages for fair work.
It is about politics and the evil desires of the leadership.
Laurette you are correct….they may not directly promote it but they always indirectly do with the crooked politicians in which they support. They love their labor union advocacy so much that it doesn’t matter if it also includes those who believe in killing the unborn and advocating gay propaganda.
I am now in my golden years, as they say, and I do remember when labor unions did what was expected of them, namely represent their members from exploitation and arbitrary treatment by their bosses. Those days are long gone my friend. When the American labor movement joined the international labor movement they took a sharp turn to the political left. They are now the radical left wing of the democrat party and espouse all the pernicious social and economic policies that are so detrimental to our beloved nation. When, I ask,
are the bishops going to wake up and realize that we are no longer living in the 1940’s? The SEIU, in particular, stands out as an exemplar of militant and thuggish tactics.
Anton you are correct. Why are our Bishops ignorant of these facts? It is just puzzling to me. That is why when they state their own personal believes on current issues, I am very reluctant to embrace them because I have to first discern and see if the Bishop is truly walking with Christ. It’s a sad fact but some within our church leadership do mislead the faithful maybe not intentionally but perhaps mostly because of lack of Catholicity, holiness and good will.
NO parish should be dissolved — especially one that is full of people each Sunday.
Every parish needs correction and guidance — especially a parish where sexual promiscuity is the norm but never mentioned; or where the rich are never challenged to help the poor; or where the self-righteous are merely patted on the back; or where the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass comes into second to socializing.
If Most Holy Redeemer Parish needs help getting back on track, Archbishop Cordileone should work towards that end, not demolishing the parish. Of course, he must also do this in EVERY parish under his jurisdiction, especially where problems are a scandalous part of life each day: racism, violence, adultery, gangs, lack of reverence, and so forth.
Howz about focusing on leading the priests into states of holiness instead of nonsenseness where so many of them wallow today? That would take care of all those other problems. Either replace the head or reform the head, and the body will follow.
I have no desire to follow the direction that some of you have chosen.
I stand by what I said in my post. You don’t know me and how I live , my faithfulness to God nor did you understand my post.
There is free will. Not everyone chooses Christ.
Have confidence in the Lord with all thy heart, and lean not upon thy own prudence. Proverbs 3:5
We understood it only to well, and that is what is bothering you!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Dee now that you made that clear….can you honestly look at our Crucified Lord and tell him what you posted here?
“Therefore will I distribute to him very many, and he shall divide the spoils of the strong, because he hath delivered his soul unto death, and was reputed with the wicked: and he hath borne the sins of many, and hath prayed for the transgressors.” Isaiah 53:12
Dee, if you support “same-sex” marriage, you are NOT faithful to God, at least not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob nor the God of Ishmael, and definitely not the God of the Lord Jesus Christ who forbade acts of sodomy, incest and sex outside of marriage. I once belonged to a union, but as it went further and further to the left on the moral issues, I found I could no longer in good conscience vote for the people the union advocated. I then signed a paper stating that my union dues were to go into a fund strictly for adocating for my benefits and not into their political fund. I do not know how well that worked because I was still paying dues to some people with whom I did not agree. I found myself voting against my own self interest, but God takes care of his own. I survived just fine and with a clear conscience.
God is Truth. Christians never have to fear the truth. We live in a time when the Truth is being attacked. Every thing that any Christian speaks whether in private or in public, whether about spiritual matters or secular, whether through the mouth, the keyboard or only in the heart must be scrupulously true. (Very difficult-one must pray for this.) False assumptions made about others and false accusations about others are detrimental to the Faith, to all the faithful and to the unbelievers who will not be able to believe the truth of the Faith because of untruthful statements by Christians. The Truth is being hidden by falsity. People must learn their own limits. A human mind cannot discern the motives or intent of another by the action alone.
“People must learn their own limits. A human mind cannot discern the motives or intent of another by the action alone.” = CAUTION: Rudderless Post!
Catholic teaching! See Baltimore Catechism.
Catholics in state of grace are mentally one with the mind of Christ … which means that it is possible to discern anything that Christ can discern.
Ummmm. Skai? No. I think perhaps you were just trying to be provocative.
What little faith k ….
abeca, please tell me where I could find any Catholic teaching that says that being in a state of grace makes us mentally one with the mind of Christ and that it is then possible to discern anything that Christ can discern. I am serious. I desire to know if this is teaching of the Church.
Dee, if you were Catholic, you would adhere to everything in the CCC.
You can not pick and choose only the Church teachings that you personally believe are important.
Maybe, Dee, you should socialize more so that you better understand how to convey what you mean in writing.
My beef with the SEIU is that the union is run by communist thugs and financed by billionaire George Soros who is no friend of the church or the USA as a whole. The SEIU’s membership comprises many Hispanics and is therefore supported by many of our bishops who are too lazy or too complacent to recognize that they are in league with the devil!
Dee, your profession of faith is “humans run the church”: well so then your church is a church of humans and not of Christ. But you cannot be both Catholic and a member of some other church … So maybe you should do some soul searching. Another thing you might do is find out what Catholicism is. Your post suggests that you really do not know. What a shock, huh?! Like realizing you were punked all your life. Maybe you are beginning to awaken, beginning to seek Jesus Christ. If you really stood on solid religious ground, you wouldn’t want to go and hide somewhere. The problem you have, Dee, is that the faith you have is shakey, and unreliable, groundless. If you have the heart, mind, soul and strength for Catholicism, then no matter how your sense of self is messed with, you will not really get bent out of shape over it and you would even welcome the challenge given you by Heaven.
Dee, St Louis said to his torturers, those who put him on a big barbecue grill, “I’m done on one side, now turn me over to roast the other side”. Do you live this sort of Catholicism, Dee? Or do you reside in a big fuzzy candy cane type religion?
That was St. Lawrence. He was martyred in 258 during the persection of the Emperor Valerian who decreed that all bishops, priests and deacons were to be executed. As Pope Sixtus II was lead to his death he told Lawrence (who desired to be martyred with the Pope) that he would follow him in 3 days As the last deacon standing, he was ordered to bring to the authorities the treasure of the Church. The next day when the treasure was to be collected, St. Lawrence had assembled all the poor of Rome and told the authorities “This is treasure of the Church.”
Thanks again, k, for once again informing me and others that it was indeed St Lawrence. Maybe I’ll get it right some day.
Do I sense some pride k?
You see what you want to see, abeca. Stop bullying.
k stop bullying….k stop bullying Catherine….stop dissenting…
“He replied, “Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written: “‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.” Mark 7:6
Isn’t that the truth….how many people call out our Lord’s name and yet still continue to be wicked and mislead others.
“Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say? Luke 6:46
Which is one reason I prefer to advance my posts in argument form so no inference is reasonable that I see myself as the font of truth.
And in vain do they worship me, teaching doctrines and commandments of men. Matthew 15:9
You go girl!!! You done tored up those CINO’s but good.
She is described on her SIEU bio as a having a deep faith as a Roman Catholic. Ummmm…. So that means what? Union organizing? This is just strange. This CCD article just scratches the surface. It’s hard to believe that Father Costello would permit this. I hope he attends so he can correct any errors, if needed.
By allowing the SEIU or any other organization to speak on Church property is an endorsement of that organization by the Diocese Bishop and Pastor.
I hope the CCD follows up with this article with a quoted statement from Abp Cordileone.
After looking at the new website for MHR, my concerns about what might be going on there have increased. Links to organizations like Voice of the Faithful and Dignity and books in their library such as Just Love which was condemned by the Vatican (yes, I understand the author’s point that she was not trying to write a book that supported church doctrine on sexuality). The most disconcerting thing is that the website refers to Host Holy Redeemer as a Christian community in the Catholic traditon. This is the terminology that is often used by non-Catholic churches run by priests who have left the Church or who have been excommunicated. Most Holy Redeemer is a church that is one of the Catholic Churches in the Archdiocese of San Francisco. Father Costello is a priest of the Archdiocese. His welcome letter on the website says that “God’s love is showered down on us equally but with a special promise to the pioneer, the outsider, the officially shunned, the angry and wounded” and “Everyone…is committed to a better world and a better Church to serve it.” The concerns of people who post here have been that Catholic Truth is not supported there. Usually it has been on the issue of marriage and sexuality, but it may go deeper.
Many who come on these websites are “summertime” Christians — when the going gets tough, they get going. I have seen it over and over agains — people church hopping because they did not want to follow anyone’s rules because they wanted to be little gods of their own. What Jesus Christ wants is men and women for “all seasons” who worship him alone. Pray God we are those “men (traditional use) for all seasons”.
Please do not get me wrong. Along with the “summertime” Christians who church hop, there are those who go from one church to another truly seeking to find the truth or the true church. There is a difference — one being a vice and the other a virtue.
Encourage others to read the CCC so they will know the truth of what the Church teaches. When they know, they will not leave unless they are married to sin.
“….the Catechism has raised throughout the world, even among non-Christians, and confirms its purpose of being presented as a full, complete exposition of Catholic doctrine, enabling everyone to know what the Church professes, celebrates, lives, and prays in her daily life.” – Pope John Paul II (CCC pg xiv)
There is nothing like same sex marriege, it cannot be even if we all imagined it to be and all believed it was, for its not real, its just like a unicorn or any other fairy tale creature.
While this might seem like an isolated incident, its part of a large scheme in the war aganist christ, engineered by the devil himself. For all evil comes from him.
hence my take on things below
All these seemingly independent movements out to change society all meet at one place The DNC. Lets list them
Radical Feminists movement
The Holywood Moral Standards Movement
The Anti-War Movement
The Anti Family Movements
The welfare state
Lets safe the world from the warming by the sun movement
Blacks and latinos are hated movement
open border crowds
I am convinced there is someone out there or a group of people out there controling all these fronts as a means of gaining pawa. The thing is, their true master is one who would seek to transform society from one which is governed not by God’s law but by anothers law. We all know who that is.
Sometimes these movements have elements of truth/good that a Catholic might agree with, even view as necesary, but do not fool yourself that their motivation is necesarily the cross, or Christ. Their motivation is power, and that has nothing to do with Christ.
I hope someone who attends this will post here and tell us how this went. I really don’t understand how someone who works to elect a pro-choice candidate (maybe that was not an issue for her), starts a gay group in a union (why? there may be a reason I don’t about) , overlooks the murders committed at Planned Parenthood(are their workers part of the union?), lives with a gay partner for 20 years (OK they may be friends without benefits) can say that their deep Catholic faith informs their leadership. I would really like to LISTEN and understand where she is coming from. For myself, I would consider these things to be choices that a person who was living the Catholic Faith would not make, however, we all have to grow (and stretch) into the Faith each day. None of us have it all down pat. Sometimes people are really faithful in one area and completely blow it in others.
You and your clique have bullied a lot of people off this website. I see Mr. Fisher is now in your sights. It won’t work. He is stronger than you are.
Wow….another liberal at mind
And what is the public statement from Archbishop Cordileone regarding this use of Church property within his Diocese?
Is he promoting what they are selling by their words and example?
One aspect of inviting a woman to speak that is in complete opposition to the beliefs and values of the Catholic Church shows a complete want of taste and good manners. You don’t invite a cannibal to a vegan meeting to speak on the joys of munching finger foods (literally) nor do you invite an Osmam bib laden type to a peace & love in. It’s tacky, tasteless and counter intuitive to learning and understanding. This person is not coming to teach satanic views. She’s coming disguised as a Catholic to teach satanic views disguised as Catholic social teaching. It exudes a pathologically shallow understanding and is excedingly low brow to have a sneak and a liar come to deliver “How Being Catholic Informs my Leadership.” from an openly lesbian/counter-Catholic. Pretty typical for this crass and ignorant age in which we live. Oh, my wounded sensibilities. When will these amoral, really hokey ‘lib-tards’ develop some social cred? (let alone some true faith, love of the Holy Spirit and a humble and contrite heart) Right now, just some good, old-fashioned values would suffice. Would someone tell this woman she’s gate crashing? Or a crashing boor? Why are people letting these pompous, ill-mannered boors ruin all our fun?
I meant to say we’re letting these insensitive, selfish, mean-spirited people rob us of time…not fun. I admit, I was being deliberately sardonic, but I am completely serious about all the time we waste on this outright silliness and disgusting time wasting. It’s a ploy to keep believers diverted from the larger issues that are confronting the Church. If one were using a LOTR scale, these are the minor minions invented by Saruman. It’s the work of Sauron we should be addressing.
Yes. Read Pope Francis’ homilies.
Did this heretic and schismatic speak at Holy Redeemer on April 20th?
What has Archbishop Cordileone done to insure that Church owned property within his Diocese will never be used to promote mortal sin?
Any NUNS who belong to LCWR and/or NETWORK (which includes the 11 Nuns on the Bus) have a political agenda to brainwash children against the teachings of the Church.
They do NOT teach the contents of the “Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition” in entirety – because it does not agree with their own political agenda.