….We would do well to consider an immensely positive development that has arisen alongside the rise of Covid-ism. I am not referring to a rise in populist sentiment, which is often laudable. I am not referring to a steepening consciousness of bodily autonomy. I am not even referring to a growing sentiment among parents that they must take a great interest in how their children are educated. As positive as all of these things are, there is something even greater afoot.
I am here referring to the rise in awareness among the population at large of the truth that life begins at conception.
You might be wondering what the rise of Covid-ism has done to help society see the truth of life’s early stages, something that we all already knew.
I suggest that this is the case because of the pressure that the powers-that-be (or shouldn’t be) have put on the populous to take the jab. Never have I seen in my life such a contentious conversation surrounding vaccines. Sure, they have always been a controversial issue, and the label of “anti-vaxxer” has been a long-standing pejorative used to calumniate anyone who decides to make a different medical decision for their children. However, with the advent of broken jab-related reopening promises, vaccine mandates and passports, and the growing divide between the “vaxxed” and “unvaxxed,” people are really looking into vaccines for perhaps the first time.
I have spoken to numerous people who are otherwise all-in for vaccines as a whole but who have decided to forgo the current offering, even when facing severe professional consequences. Ironically, the pressure that governments have put on the general public to take the jab has caused people to take a second look at what the jab might do to them, and what it contains.
I am sure if we were to take a look at internet analytics, we would find a massive surge in vaccine search words over the past year, whether from those pro or against. Along with the health concerns regarding the Covid shots, it has now become part of the mainstream conversation to discuss the open secret that vaccines are often tainted with abortion either in development or testing. Even outlets like Reuters have had to admit that abortions were part of the process while trying to play it off as a non-issue….
In fact, the reality of abortion-tainted vaccines actually proves what pro-lifers have said since day one: Life begins at conception!
The vaccines are tested on, or developed with cells derived from abortion, then this is a de facto admission on behalf of the medical establishment that the cells are human. To put it plainly – testing/developing vaccines on/with a fetus proves it is a person; It is human testing for human medicine.
It is a simple truth that we have all known for a long time; namely, that a human being can only beget a human being. In addition, by the insistence on behalf of Big Pharma to use fetal cells from the very early stages of pregnancy for the production vaccines, they prove to us that they scientifically believe that human life is present from the very beginning….
The above comes from an Oct. 13 story in LifeSiteNews.
The fact that some vaccines might be remotely morally tainted by use of aborted fetal cell lines is irrelevant to me. I don’t want the vaccines because they are insufficiently tested for long-term side effects, because the protection they afford is inferior to natural immunity, and because there have been reports of severe side effects after being vaccinated. I need that vaccine like a need a kick in the head.
I won’t take the vax either but you are placing your physical life over your moral one. Your body will die, your soul will not, rethink your priorities.
Even if the vax was all Fauci promised, the fact that it’s made using dead babies is enough reason to reject it.
They are not made using dead babies. Nobody is going to go to hell for taking the vaccine.
The Catholic Church has ruled that there is no moral objection to receiving any of the vaccines. No moral objection. That should be reason enough not to reject it on the basis of, as Kick in the head said, being “remotely morally tainted.” You can reject it on other bases, as he also explained. Or on no basis. The Church has said people should have the freedom not to receive it. So you have the best of all worlds: you can receive it because it’s not immoral to receive it, but you can also not receive it because it’s not immoral to refuse it. Whatever you choose, there is no sin. Listen to the Church, get informed, then make your decision. But don’t criticize others for their decisions that comply with Church rulings.
I think replies such as this and the ratios of thumbs up to down on the original post and on the replies show that very few readers of this site can think logically or with sophistication. Why thumbs down someone who says he won’t take the vaccine for reasons other than abortion taintedness? Do you people really think the only valid reason for not taking the vaccine has to be because of abortion? Is that how single-minded you all are? Someone who won’t take the vaccine is horrible unless he won’t take the vaccine because of abortion? That’s how you think?
I agree with everything you say except your statement about the irrelevance of the aborted fetal cell tainting of the “jab”.
Once again, and hopefully for the last time, fetal cells were not used for the production of the COVID mRNA vaccines.
Did these vaccines change people’s minds about abortion? I seriously doubt it. I think what it did was show how irrational some elements of the so called pro-life movement can be, how these elements don’t really care about life, so much so that that they even refuse to even listen to their own Church’s guidance on the morality of these life-saving vaccines.
Yes, hopefully this the last time you deny the science that shows the vaccines are abortion tainted. Let this also be your last post denigrating pro life people for views you clearly do not share. My Fellow Catholic, no, I don’t think so.
With all due respect to your efforts here, my strong recommendation and plea is to just not respond to YFC on these rants of his. If you have noticed, he only responds more frequently when confronted with his errors.
YFC. See my reply to Sig, RE aborted fetal cells in mRNA and J&J vaccines. You are either uninformed or misinformed. Either way, please see my comment and get informed.
Folks please stop responding to YFC he is leftist ideologue, he is the perfect microcosm of why the country and the Church will soon split.
It also has separated the intelligent from the unintelligent. If you’re vaxed, why does it matter to you whether anyone else is vaxed or not? Aren’t you protected by the vax? Think, people.
It’s all about power, making people do what little tyrants demand. The effectiveness of the vaccine is quite secondary.
Because we actually care about people other than ourselves.
We are all responsible for ourselves. You take care of you and I’ll take care of me. At this point, I don’t care about anyone else.
Oh right. The eleventh commandment. “Think not of others, only of oneself”
Huh, so you are not a Christian? Well, we welcome you. Christians (of which Catholics are the originals) are called to a different way of living. We follow Jesus Christ who is the Son of God. That sounds odd, right? Well, God is One God in Three Persons. (I know we can’t explain it but it is a revealed Truth.) How do we get this revelation? From the Bible (we share belief in the Old Testament (the first part of the Bible) with the Jewish people. We believe that the New Testament is from the time directly after Jesus Christ became man. (Yep!) He was actually born of a Virgin. In approximately 33 AD (now often referred to a CE) Jesus was crucified by the Roman occupiers of Israel through the machinations of the Jewish leaders of the time. He died and three days later, He rose. He stayed on earth for 40 days then ascended into Heaven. 9 days later, He sent the Holy Spirit upon His followers (called the Apostles). This began the Catholic Church. People believed the revelation that Jesus Christ was sent from God to save us from our sins. They repented and were baptized and became members of the Catholic Church. (well , it wasn’t called that back then.) People are still accepting the revelation, accepting baptism and becoming members of the Church to this very day. The Catholic Church is responsible for making sure that the revelation from God in the Bible and from the oral Tradition given by Jesus and his apostles stays true. You can learn more about it on many Catholic websites. People have many questions about it. Catholic Answers is a good website for answers.
Because Leftists are never happy…
YFC, here is more evidence that covid vaccines are abortion tainted. You may still love them, but now you know the truth and can no longer deny that unborn babies were killed and their body parts used to make these potions.
No one can expect that having aborted baby cells floating around in their bodies is moral or healthy. To those unvaxxed, stay away from the jab!
There are not aborted baby parts or cells in the vaccines. Who is telling you this stuff? Get away from them.
You really have a chaotic mind. There are no cells of any kind in the vaccines. None. They wouldn’t even survive the freezing that goes on for shipment. If you believe there are fetal cells floating around in those vaccine vials you are sadly deluded. Even the Pope and Bishops have told you that there are no fetal cells in the vaccines.
You misrepresent the abortion connection to vaccines. Stop it, you are not telling the truth.
Excuse me. Not only do I tell the truth, I back it up with sources. Unlike you, I am here to save lives, not mislead them into possible avoidable death Where are your sources?
You are here to be the mouth piece of the ruling elite. Your compliance with this mandate madness will soon lead to the crumbling of the country as hundred if not thousands of cops, soldiers, sailors medical workers, transportation workers will be fired because they will not comply with these mandates.
I’m less about the mandates than I am about voluntary vaccinations, but you know what? I don’t want “medical workers” so careless about my health that they would not take a vaccine proven to be very safe and very effective. Let them work in some other field.
See my comment below. BTW: the Pope and Bishops were either lied to, are uninformed or misinformed about fetal cells and their relation to the vaccines.
Just curious, what is your degree in science?
YFC’s capacity to deny The Science is unmitigated thus he must be ignored.
This article is filled with untruths. The mRNA COVID19 vaccines were not made using cells from aborted babies. Read the real science not someone’s propaganda.
Sig and Md (?) The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines used cells from the kidneys of a live aborted 5-month baby girl, in the testing stage: HEK 293. Johnson and Johnson used cells from the aborted fetal cell line PER.C6, taken from the retinal cells of an aborted 18-week baby in 1985, in its production, manufacturing and testing.
Peggy there are no fetal cells in the vaccines. Period. No amount of scientifically sounding words can change that. The HEK cell
Line aren’t even kidney cells, though that’s irrelevant here. But they are used in the testing in almost every product at your local pharmacy including hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, the statins that control your cholesterol and the drugs that reduce your blood pressure. No one has lied to the Pope or the Bishops. Moral theologians actually understand what is going on. Spreading lies only causes more death, and won’t bring back a single baby.
HEK 293 cells
Human embryonic kidney 293 cells, also often referred to as HEK 293, HEK-293, 293 cells, or less precisely as HEK cells, are a specific immortalised cell line derived from human embryonic kidney cells grown in tissue culture taken from a female fetus in 1973.Wikipedia
They got the cell lines from the bodies of aborted babies. You deny the abortion/covid vaccine links, but the science says otherwise. You are not telling the truth.
Covid is not a death sentence, look at the 99% who got it and recovered.
so since you are so reassured that 99% survive, that means you are ok if 1% die. That’s over 3 million dead Americans, 15 million hospitalized, and millions living with long COVID. In the US alone. You would be ok with 60 million dead worldwide. And you don’t think that their deaths taint those who discourage vaccination?
I’ll take a 99% recovery over 1% dead and billions aborted.
And btw, it’s not like actual baby arms and legs are floating in the vaccine as you try to portray, but unborn babies were killed and their parts used to research and manufacture covid vaxxes.
That’s the uncomfortable truth for people who sat they’re prolife but justify that billions of abortions happen worldwide each year, as though a fake vax was worth the price of the abortions.
Correct, there are no baby parts floating in the vaccines. I’m not the one who portrays it that way.
But you misportray it when you say that babies were aborted to make these vaccines. That is not true. The cell line used for testing was from a fetus aborted decades before these vaccines were even dreamt of – and not for the purpose of science but for the wishes of the mother. It is also possible that the fetus was actually a miscarriage and not an elective abortion at all. Some of the earliest and most direct sources of information show that the record is not clear.
I find it appalling, and so too does the Pope and most Bishops, that you value the cells from a long-dead baby over the lives of millions of people currently living. That is truly a devil’s bargain.
The devil’s bargain is thinking the demonic act of abortion leads to good. It doesn’t, and those who think so are diabolically deceived, and popes and bishops can be deceived too. Aborted babies are still being cannibalized by medical researchers as has always been the case.
Covid is not a death sentence, ask the 99% who got and recovered.
The survival rate of Covid is 92.8%. There is some bad info going around on social media that says 99% but it is not true.
Also, they are finding brain damage from mild cases of Covid. It especially attacks the part of the brain that processes taste and smell. There is brain shrinkage even in mild cases.
More to pray for.
So, technical point, the babies cells were used to make the cell line. The cell lines are not actually the babies cells. Like you pointed out, these cells are not in the vaccines.
Catholics prefer Pfizer and Moderna but it is acceptable to take whatever vaccine is available.
There is not a moral issue with taking the vaccines no matter what you read on the Internet.
God gave Catholics the hierarchy of the Church from which they are to discern their moral decisions.
No one on the Internet has God’s authority to do that.
We are Catholics, not evangelical Christians. We have God’s assurance through the Holy Catholic Church that we can take the vaccines with a clear conscience.
That being said, you should listen to your own conscience and If your conscience forbids you to take them, then that is for you and you alone.
As a Catholic, you could communicate to another person what you feel that your conscience had told you to do or not to do, but your conscience is not binding on them, especially if it is contrary to the Church.
Peggy: mRNA vaccines are synthetically made in a lab and human cells are not used in their production. If you are going to make assertions about the vaccines, please familiarize yourself with the basic scientific information regarding their development and production.
I didn’t say the mRNA vaccines used fetal cells in their production; I said they were used in the testing stage. Please read more carefully.
Johnson & Johnson/Janssen Tech. Ad-Vac – Uses aborted fetal PER C6 (from Children of Life for God website).
Moderna And NIAID
Vaccine candidate: mRNA-1273
Uses HEK 293 aborted fetal cells in design, development, protein production and testing (From Children of Life for God website)
Pfizer scientists on tape…but don’t believe your Lyin’ eyes/ears. There’s a memo about hiding the fetal cell information. There is a whistleblower. As Bezmenov said, ‘ once someone is successfully demoralized there is no fact that can change their mind. ‘ We must just choose to ignore…and spread the truth Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever. Those who here His voice will here the truth because He is the truth, the way and the life and no one comes to the Father but by Him.
Granny, the Pfizer “whistleblower” disclosed the PR strategy discussions, not the science. No fetal cells are used to manufacture the mRNA vaccines, Pfizer and Moderna. They are used for testing, just as they are used to test ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, your statins and your blood pressure medication, and almost every medicine produced today.
The Pope has stated the Trump vaccines are morally licit. Donald Trump has said he has received a COVID19 vaccine and is encouraging everyone to get vaccinated. That is enough information for me to get the covid19 vaccine.
Praise to Jesus. The young man I wrote about has made a miraculous recovery and is ready to be moved to a rehab. He even got to meet His baby that was born while he was unconscious.