The following comes from a Jan. 5 story on TheCalifornian.com.
Catholic Charities Diocese of Monterey began assisting with Covered California enrollment applications Jan. 2. Through a contract with the state of California, Catholic Charities Diocese of Monterey staff have achieved their certification to help community members determine eligibility and to assist with sign-ups for those who qualify for the Affordable Care Act health insurance program in California.
These certified enrollment counselors at Catholic Charities will be available to determine qualified applicants and to assist with applications throughout Monterey, Santa Cruz, San Benito, and San Luis Obispo counties.
To read the original story, click here.
This is a marvelous service to the people of the Diocese. This is an area of California where a lot of people do not speak English, and more important perhaps, don’t understand that they may qualify for fairly inexpensive health insurance for them and their families. Catholic social teachings would support this kind of effort by Catholic Charities. A large segment of the population without health insurance, relying on emergency rooms as a last resort is one of the reasons that health care is so expensive in our country. The notion that people can’t get health insurance runs against all that the Church stands for, what Jesus would want for His flock, and the basic values of our country. This is a good start.
Bob One that is a preposterous lie! Since when is traveling and embracing the broad road to hell a good start? Partial birth abortion, same sex marriage supporter Loretta Sanchez thought that speaking up about Obamacare at St. Callistus (now located on the grounds of Christ Cathedral) was a good start too Bob One. In the meantime you want people to jest about the “pleasure” of bishops hiding Tabernacles. Bob One, Would you have also been one of those who jested while the soldier placed the spear in Jesus’s side?
John 19: 34 But one of the soldiers with a spear opened his side, and immediately there came out blood and water.  And he that saw it, hath given testimony, and his testimony is true. And he knoweth that he saith true; that you also may believe. Douay Rheims Catholic Bible
continued from January 8, 2015 at 11:04
Bob One, Why don’t you give Loretta Sanchez a smiley face sign and then tell Loretta Sanchez to lighten up when she advocates partial birth abortion. Bob One, do you agree with Loretta Sanchez or other dissenters being invited to Catholic parishes to marvelously confuse and undermine Catholic teaching in the name of Obamacare? Who is spiritually neglecting Loretta Sanchez’s soul? None of these are joking matters.
St. Vincent de Paul Church in Huntington Beach invited a speaker to educate the people on Obamacare. This is the same speaker who undermined the authority of the Magisterium to a group of Confirmation students at St. Simon and Jude. She mocked the authority of the Pope and then told the students that “on account of that one man (the Pope) she can never marry who she really wants to marry and does this seem fair? This is the very same woman who told a group of Catholics that you do not really even need a Tabernacle located inside the church. I was present when she was undermining the Magisterium to impressionable 9th graders and I was present when this woman said that we do not really need Tabernacles inside a church. Bob One, keep jesting because it let’s everyone know your real agenda. I was also present when this same woman held a meeting at a parish titled in the bulletin “Can you be Catholic and pro-choice?”
Where does what you have written leave the “bishop”?
God bless, yours in Their Hearts!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Kenneth M. Fisher
Mr. Fisher, I know in the OLD DAYS you used to contact Bishops, etc, and many times had no luck.
Today with the use of the internet, ipads, cell phones, etc., – including the use of the media – together we can make some significant changes, but only if we work together.
Please let us all know of serious things that violate Sacred Scripture, the CCC, Code of Canon Law, or GIRM and we can all work together.
(Please quote the appropriate document paragraph.)
In the meantime speculation does no good.
Unfortunately, the Vatican approved Altar Girls. Men and Boys should step up and asked to be trained as Altar Servers – they should not be lazy.
And Bob One you will be seeing those costs go even higher as there will be fewer and fewer doctors, longer waits for treatment, but to weak minded liberal its all about intentions not about results or reality
Catherine, I will not give Sanchez a smiley face. If I lived in her district I would not vote for her. I would not vote for anyone who outwardly supported any kind of abortion, unless there was no one else to vote for, such as in my district where both candidates were pro-choice and pro-abortion. I voted for the lesser of two evils. No church should invite a person to speak who would undermine the teachings of the church. That does not mean, however, that we should deny people the opportunity to learn about affordable health care. I know that all or nearly all of the available health plans include coverage for abortion, but that doesn’t make the entire plan unavailable to us. I’m sure that 90%+ of people in this country have insurance that covers abortions, yet they have not given up their insurance. People need health insurance and they need to be educated about how to get it.
Bob One, Why are you still doubting? YOU need to be educated. The purpose of the Great Commission was NOT for the apostles to become Obamacare health insurance facilitators. But you already know that don’t you Bob? That is the reason you could put a smiley face jest about the topic of the placement of Tabernacles. Your priorities are wrong Bob and it seems that you are one of many who have forgotten the primary reason why Jesus Christ founded his true Church on earth. The Catholic Church’s mission is about the “spiritual health of the soul.” No one is sent to purgatory or to hell for not having medical health insurance. The “insurance coverage” that our bishops should be concerned with is the “spiritual insurance” that will help the sheep in their flock to get to heaven. At the present moment our bishops cannot even “insure” that the children in the Catholic schools are receiving proper catechetical teaching. Our bishops are not even “insuring” that the truth is taught in Catholic Universities and sometimes even in hospitals that are Catholic in name only. We also know that our bishops were unable to “insure” that children would not be sexually abused.
Canisius, you mat be right, but so far health care cost is down and we haven’t seen the havoc that was predicted. More and more health care companies are finding ways to lower costs and provide for more clients. Obviously we don’t know if that will be sustained. But let’s hope.
Bob One I am right and yes havoc is coming… I can’t to see the whole thing come crumbling down…there will be longer waits for treatment and few doctors but for people like you everything is based on intentions not results.
It’s interesting to look at the numbers. The percentage of costs today for patients in the last year of life is about the same as in the mid-70s.
27 to 30 percent of Medicare payments cover the cost of care for people in the last year of life.
40 percent of Medicare dollars cover care for people in the last month.
12 percent of Medicare spending covers people who are in the last two months.
10 percent of Medicare beneficiaries account for 70 percent of program spending.
In the U.S. particularly, death is considered an option, so we spend lots of unneeded dollars to keep people alive when they are ready to die anyway. By the way, I not talking about euthanasia or self-inflicted death inducing drugs. These cost are just for “regular” deaths. What if we didn’t do that? Another expectation in this country is that everything is perfect the first time. If the Affordable Healthcare Act needs to be tweaked, then you make changes. It takes about 15-20 years to make a program like this work efficiently and effectively. By that time your great-grandchildren will have a health care system with the best outcomes in the world, instead of the poor outcomes we have today.
Bob One, yes I would love to make the changes, the complete removal of the government from the health care system complete and total
Catholic Charities helping people sign up for plans which include abortion? And the ‘unaffordable health care’ is inexpensive… For who?
Jesus certainly wouldn’t be for the injustice of forcing others to violate their religious liberty by paying for the killing of the innocents.
All health care plans in California cover abortion.
This argument is so disingenuous. Virtually everyone who makes it has their own health insurance that also covers abortion.
If there was some kind of moment to opt out of health coverage by those who claim it’s so morally objectionable, it might have some weight, but the total absence of this makes it so clear that it’s just cover for condescension and contempt for the poor, lassiez-faire entitlement, etc. It’s attempting to put some kind of religious liberty veneer on attitudes that are essentially anti-Christian.
Hugh….This socialist unaffordable health care plan is a disaster. It will eventaully be repealed. Wait and see.
As for all plans covering abortion that’s not the point. Catholic Charities should not be involved in or entangled in abortion, the killing of the innocents. I ceased giving to this group a long time ago when they became a ‘government agency’ and handed out money to groups which supported abortion and same-sex disordered lobby. And by the way, the poor receives more money from conservatives and me than any other group in the USA. We give voluntaritly not by force. Dignity not enslavement is what the poor need.
Catholic Charities is facilitating health coverage.
The argument is presented constantly that ACA = abortion access to a group that wouldn’t otherwise have it, or somehow putting employers in a situation of funding abortions that they could otherwise prevent, but both are totally false.
If anything, inhibiting access to health care for the poor/uninsured incentivizes abortion.
Say you’re pregnant, uninsured, and barely covering living expenses. Your options are to scrape together $500 for an abortion and rationalize that the timing isn’t right, face (and almost certainly default on) tens of thousands in out of pocket expenses for pre-natal/delivery/pediatrics, or get yourself into (and maybe never out of) various federal/state aid programs.
The second argument doesn’t work either, because health coverage is part of a total compensation package. If an employee chooses to have an abortion, it makes no moral difference to the employer whether it’s paid in cash or as a benefit. Both would equally be paid by the employees earnings.
Rhetorically, it sounds better to have some morally principled-sounding rationale for opposing something that invariably raises the standard of living for people living in tenuous conditions than it does to admit that motives are purely cynical; that as an employer, you just want lower labor costs and don’t care about your employees’ well being, or that you fear that raising baseline standards of living for the poor will result in lowering them for those who benefit by heavy class stratification.
Hugh…Catholic Charities is involved either way in a health care plan which covers abortion, the killing of little girls/boys. And inhibiting access to health care does not contribute to abortion. Most women abort for convenience.
Yes, it would be in some cases I’m sure be financially better to kill your kid for say $500 than to pay for the child all her/his life. But it is morally right? And there are many programs women can access to pay for prenatal care and there are also pro-life organizations which will assist women find the resources to help them care for their children. And least we forget women/men need to take some resonsibility for themselves, to respect themselves and practice some moral restraint.. Having programs which teach our young to wait until marriage might be a good option.
I do not oppose access to health care. I oppose this unaffordable, pro-abortion, pro-euthanasia (death panels anyone) plan. I give the Democrats credit for their attemp (GW Bush tried but the Dems blocked him) but you can’t help the poor by eliminating them. Let’s have a discussion on affordable morally acceptable health care without doing away with those we say we want to help.
Jesus told the pharisees that they had to pay their taxes to the Romans, and you can be sure that the Romans used that money to kill innocents. One of the innocents they killed was Jesus.
Catholic Charities has been on various government payrolls for many years. I don’t believe it is Catholic in anything but name. They apparently support abortion and other immoral issues identified as being in the Obamacare program. That is sinful and disgraceful. I wouldn’t give them a penny. However, the Catholic Charities doesn’t care as it is supported by the various governments.
John Patrick, the primary sin of abortion lies with the woman who procures one and the man who participated in the actions that made it desirable in her mind and any lack of support he didn’t give to the child. On the other hand, Obamacare does a huge moral good in that it keeps big corporate insurance companies from denying coverage to people because they once had a hangnail. It also makes people more responsible for their own health choices, rather than relying upon the rest of us to pay for folks who show up at the ER because they won’t be turned away for lack of payment. Obamacare doesn’t force anyone to have an abortion. Fighting Obamacare because you are afraid a woman might have an abortion is like not housing a homeless person because they might one day kick the front door.
We should only be helping those truly in need.
Forcing all taxpayers to pay for the Mortal Sins of ABORTION, CONTRACEPTION, VOLUNTARY STERILIZATION, etc., violates their Freedom of Religion.
Let people pay for their own Sins.
Throw out all of Obamacare, improve Medicaid for those really in need, and those who have pre-existing conditions. – It’s very simple.
Forced / Socialism – in health care with the government ultimately making the decisions is evil.
Leigh, the widely available health insurance that most people have, from their workplace has coverage for abortion. I’m not supporting it, just stating a fact. Today all but a very few health plans cover abortions because most companies do not want to make their employees mad. So, all taxpayers are not forced to pay for mortal sins….. It is already there in you health plan. Even Medicare, under some conditions pays for abortions. All of this occurred long before Mr. Obama came on the scene. There is a lot to not like in the Affordable Health Care act, but it does provide access to health insurance to everyone, uncaps limits of coverage, provides free preventative care and eliminates pre-conditions as a reason for refusal. The insurance companies still make the decisions about payment, overturning doctor’s recommendations every day if it cost too much and hurts their bottom line. Your own health plan has a 99.9% chance of covering abortions and contraception. Ready to give it up? Again, I don’t support any abortion, but the reality is that it is covered by insurance in almost every plan.
[N.B. A Catholic would be guilty of formal cooperation in evil, and so unworthy to present himself for Holy Communion, if he were to deliberately vote for a candidate precisely because of the candidate’s permissive stand on abortion and/or euthanasia. When a Catholic does not share a candidate’s stand in favour of abortion and/or euthanasia, but votes for that candidate for other reasons, it is considered remote material cooperation, which can be permitted in the presence of proportionate reasons.]
Bob One, Obamacare is FORCED government run health care.
The Government makes the decisions which violates “SUBSIDIARITY”. – (CCC: 1885, and 1883, and 1894).
Programs that are not FORCED can be determined by the individual based upon conscience and freedom.
No “Catholic” organization or Catholic person should support anything which violates anything in the CCC – which contains the Doctrine of the Faith.
CATHOLIC CHARITIES must NEVER promote any insurance plan that supports ABORTION. – period.
End of subject.
Catholic Charities is in complete violation of: – – “ON the SERVICE of CHARITY” that went into effect Motu Proprio – Dec., 2012.
YFC, abortion also lies with those who support abortion in ANY way.
In fact, Catholics may not receive Holy Communion if they even vote for politicians who support abortion in the USA.
There is nothing proportionate to this slaughter of over ONE MILLION innocent human beings each year in our Country.
WE HAVE a RESPONSIBILITY for the SINS of OTHERS – – –
CCC: ” 1868 Sin is a personal act. Moreover, we have a responsibility for the sins committed by others when we cooperate in them:
– by participating directly and voluntarily in them;
– by ordering, advising, praising, or approving them;
– by not disclosing or not hindering them when we have an obligation to do so;
– by protecting evil-doers. “
John, your source is incorrect. The voting guides of the Church state that you may not vote for a person because s/he supports abortion, but may vote for them because of other things they support or because both candidates support abortion and you pick the lesser of two evils. The Priest for Life is a marvelous organization, but they do not speak for the Church. In the U.S. that would be the USCCB and the local Bishops.
“In the U.S. that would be the USCCB and the local Bishops.”
Bob One, Your source is incorrect. The Supreme Source says, “Thou shalt NOT kill.” Period. It took the voices of the victims to expose the extremely poor judgment of those who traded and shuffled molesters to other parishes like baseball cards. It took the voices of pro-family groups to expose that the USCCB has shown extremely poor judgment and that they do not always have the very best interest of souls in mind. It took the USCCB’s most embarrassing original rating of Brokeback Mountain to once again VALIDATE the reality that there is a lavender mafia that still exists and that they will keep making very poor judgments on voter guides and other issues that they should not even be involved with. There are no excuses for compromising the faith and traveling the broad road. Our own USCCB failed to recognize that Brokeback Mountain was morally offensive until they were literally shamed into reclassifying this film by the public so it stands to reason that those same advocates are also fond of working with Obama.
Taken from Catholic New Agency
USCCB reclassifies gay Western “Brokeback Mountain” after complaints
Washington D.C., Dec 16, 2005 / 12:00 am (CNA).- “Brokeback Mountain,” originally rated L (limited adult audience) by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, has been reclassified as an O (morally offensive) after several pro-family organizations expressed concern for what they saw as an implicit endorsement of the USCCB film critic to the controversial gay western.
Bob One, it is NOT the “Priests for Life” who wrote
“Worthiness to Receive Holy Communion, General Principles”.
It was the Prefect for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith – Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (later Pope Benedict XVI).
(The Priests for Life merely published it on their web site, as does the EWTN web site and others.)
There is nothing proportionate in the USA today to the murder of approx. 1 MILLION innocent human beings each year for the convenience of others.
“Worthiness ……” includes: “When a Catholic does not share a candidate’s stand in favour of abortion and/or euthanasia,
but votes for that candidate for other reasons, it is considered remote material cooperation,
which can be permitted in the presence of proportionate reasons.”
Again there is NOTHING PROPORTIONATE in the USA today to this slaughter of more than a million innocents in our own Country each year.
Here is a link to the ABORTION clock, so that you can keep track of 2015.
(The USA topped a million in 2014.)
Bob One, when any Bishops’ Conference or Diocese Bishop teaches (by commission or omission) anything which violates Sacred Scripture in conjunction with the Catechism of the Catholic Church – the CCC overrides him.
No Bishop or conference, has the authority to change any Doctrine of the Faith.
This is why it is so important for all Catholics to read the Bible and the CCC. There are good Bishops and bad Bishops.
“Bob One”: You are wrong, on several grounds. Most importantly, a Catholic voter needs to vote according to his Faith, never due to whatever the USCCB or his local bishop or pastor says. Demographics are clear that the Catholic vote enabled Obama to become President (twice). This has been, and is, a complete and utter moral disaster.
In fact, due to their feckless Liberal behavior, most Catholic bishops in the USA should be sacked. Many reasons for this, most notably that they are politically Liberal, and, in effect, support politicians that enable abortion, and homosexual sex, among other non-Catholic things.
Obama Care is a complete disaster, on several grounds, including its economics and the stealth inclusion of contraceptive and abortion coverage. People can certainly buy these things on their own, but Obama, with the connivance of America’s bishops (mostly), foisted these costs onto the American people. Why? to get people used to paying for evil (and to benefit their favorite pet — Planned Parenthood). Just listen to the recent statements and testimony of Professor Gruber (MIT) to understand the complete disregard and disrespect accorded to American voters (and to Catholics).
YFC….You’re very clever but transparent to anyone who has eyes to see. Obamacare is a disaster. Yes, the insurance companies should be held to accountability, but this pro-death panels, pro-abortion, pro-contraception, pro-disordered arrangements unaffordabel health care plan will eventaully fail and is not the answer. Of course other clever people like you, Obama and the Democrats always perservere in their desire to advance the “culture of death”. But in the end all evil fails.
God bless you, Ronnie, for stating reality. YFC relies, however, on those who have eyes, but have vowed to keep them shut so as to not cause any undue ripples in the status quo as we all join hands on our way into the pit. But don’t worry. The photo op will be all smiles and that’s what counts!
Ronnie, thank you for the complement, but I’m not really so clever. I just understand that free PSA tests and mammograms are hardly evil. Saying you are pro-life on the one hand, but then opposing putting life-saving preventative and diagnostic tests at the disposal of people, is a contradiction that you can’t reconcile. You may certainly hold the opinion that there are ways Obamacare is implemented, or you may think the website is a disaster, sure, but when you ascribe the entire endeavor to a giant pile of evil and “culture of death” and all that hyperbole, it is these sort of over-the-top statement that makes your position look incredibly irrational.
Always the apologist for Zombie-Liberal evil, eh “Your Fellow Catholic”? Obama Care is an example of legislation that was intended to be evil, and is in the process of achieving its true purposes: making the public pay for contraception and abortion, and giving lots of free cash to Planned Parenthood (and other abortion allies).
Sure a “good thing” here and there can be achieved, but this does not make the legislation “moral” because of this. Just take a look at the Catholic Catechism (2nd, ed.), Sec. 1756 (in part): “One may not do evil so that good may result from it.”
I agree that your position is “not really so clever”, as anyone that takes the time to look can see what Obama Care is intended to achieve. Reform of health care is certainly a good and moral thing, but not as an excuse to achieve overtly evil ends. Let Congress have the courage to “fix” the outright evil imposed by Obama, and the Democratic Party. (As to the latter, it is also time for Americans to see that the Democratic Party offers this Country only death; let the Democrats “retire” like Barbara Boxer, and become a few pages of history, like the “Whig Party” of old.)
Who is irrational and is constantly engaged in defending sin? Not I.
And who says I oppose life-saving preventive care and healthcare? Nice try but you’re fooling no one, only yourself.
As for Obamacare, hopefully it won’t be long until this socialized medicine, and yes…culture of death, counterfeit, in name only health care disaster will be gone. Supporting evil is over the top.
The intent of Obamacare is to give those with preexisting conditions (literally people who once had a rash or sought treatment because they were in an accident) health care, eliminating lifetime caps on coverage that has bankrupted thousands, providing preventative and diagnostic care, and reducing the numbers of uninsured well so that they won’t show up at the ER for a sore throat. If you think these intentions are evil, then I see you are in a sorry state.
As to birth control, only a tiny percentage of the country thinks birth control is immoral. Eliminating birth control would INCREASE the costs of health care because childbirth rates would increase. So net-net, you are not even paying for birth control, it is saving you money. A higher number of people believe that overpopulation is a greater moral evil than birth control. Should they not have to pay into a system that pays for childbirth services, and pre and post natal care?
If you really don’t want to buy health insurance, fine. Pay the tax and live with a clear conscience.
The intention of this socialized health care plan, which has been a disaster everywhere it has been attempted is to force people to violate their religious beliefs, to help the poor by eliminating them, to help the elderly to their death and to throw in some ‘goodies’ like covering pre-existing conditions to make it sound good. The ends justify the means mindset.
And availability of contraception is what has lead us to abortion. It promotes promiscuity, diseases, and so forth. The contraception mentality lead to the deaths of over 55 million dead little girls/boys in the womb.
Overpopulation is a myth. Get real. This unaffordable, pro-death health care plan will fail like all evil does.
John – you are 100% correct regarding your comments of Catholic Charities. They help only a certain group of individuals and then it is limited. I also do not support them along with the annual Bishops Appeal which seems to be every few months now – I think people are starting to wise about about these ‘charities & appeals.
Since “Catholic Charities” works for the Federal Government (Federal Grants), they must do as they are told with government money.
Give the government money back.
Be independent of the government.
Many people do not want insurance programs that include coverage for abortion. Any one over 65 years of age is covered by Medicare, as are certain people on disability under 65 years of age. Medicare covers abortions when the pregnancy is the result of rape, incest, or threatens the life of the mother. It does not cover abortions for convenience. Most people on Medicare who are opposed to abortions are not going to give up their insurance plan. Source is
AARP web site.
Let the Federal Government do their own job.
It is not the job of the Catholic Church or their charities to work for the government.
Forcing people to join government run socialized medicine takes away freedom.
Having government employees making health care decisions instead of doctors and patients is wrong.
Not allowing patients to keep their own doctors is wrong (and Americans were lied to by Obama).
The Catholic Charities across the USA, CCHD, and CRS get approx. $ 63 MILLION in tax dollars each year. In effect they work for the Federal Government, doing the government’s bidding.
Even if this bidding includes abortion, contraception, voluntary sterilization, etc.
Throw the Faith under the bus for $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ .
When Jesus told us to help the poor, he did not tell us to partner with any government.
Jesus said: “For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.” Mt 6:21.
With this kind of money involved, it is no surprise that when the government says “jump” – CCHD, Catholic Charities, and CRS say “how high”.
This is why these USCCB charities – do NOT support closing the border for legal immigration and legal trade only,
and therefore they remotely support breaking up families, more sex trafficking, more drug trafficking, and more empowered gangs.
Is it true that our own Bishop Garcia(formerly from the Sacramento Diocese) is aware of this caper and approves of it?
” PRO – LIFERS FACE TREACHEROUS LANDSCAPE UNDER OBAMACARE MANDATE.
Lack of transparency and of legal fixes force millions of Americans into the morass of finding abortion-free options to fulfill the individual mandate. ”
By law I have to have insurance for my children and spouse which I cannot afford. I have to sign up for medi-cal which covers abortion and contraceptives. I am saddened to have to have to participate in a governmental system that denys the right to life and the conscience of it’s people. I like what Bob One says. It is consoling to embrase it, at the sametime with caution. I see the profetic words of Paul the VI that they will eventually want to socially engineer how many children people will have. We have to fight harder to seperate. I feel like signing up for Medi-Cal is sewing a the Star of David to my sleeve like the Jews had to do in Nazi Germany. It’s difficult to trust our government.
The Government FORCING you to participate in any sinful insurance program is wrong.
Ed, you are not being forced to participate in any sinful insurance program. You are, however, forced to have insurance so the rest of us don’t have to pay for your illnesses and preventative care. If you have insurance at work for you and perhaps a family, please review the provisions of the plan, then tell the HR department you don’t want it any more. If you purchased a private plan with your own funds, review the provisions of the plan and then cancel it. Why? Because the chances are 99.99999% that those plans cover contraception and abortion, yet you chose them
A lot of this discussion has gone beyond reality:
1) The Affordable Care Act does not force you to buy government insurance
2) The ACA requires that all people have health insurance
3) Most insurance is available through employer plans and employers with over a certain number of people are required to make insurance available or pay a fine
4)If employer insurance is not available, individuals can purchase individual plans, which tend to be expensive
5) If an individual cannot afford individual health insurance, they can purchase it (in some states) through an insurance exchange which has lower cost plans. These exchanges are similar to car insurance exchanges for those who have poor driving records and can’t afford regular plans
6)All plans, those from employers, individual and through the exchanges are purchased through private insurance companies, except for people who are over 65 years old, who have Medicare.
7) For those who cannot afford to purchase through and exchange there is MediCal program
8)All insurance programs, private, employer, etc. provide coverage for contraception and abortions. There are some plans available for religious based groups that do not have that coverage in the normal plan but have ways available for people to buy it on a separate rider.
Sticking with the lefties right up to the last, eh, “Bob One”? The Democrats (a party that should simply disappear from America) lied to Americans in fabricating the ObamaCare. Americans now know much more about ObamaCare, its penalties, costs, and short-comings, and rejected it soundly at the last National election. Further, 2015 will see the initiation of a number of the penalty phases of the legislation: a wild prediction is that ObamaCare will cost the Democrats the WH in 2016.
BTW: your point #8 is shameful. No Catholic organization, or business, or person should have to be part of this program in any way, as the good Sisters of Charity are teaching us in their brave litigation against the Obama Gestapo.
Not that you would understand, but the “ways” that you describe represent the “pinch of incense” demanded by Rome to its pagan gods: the Jews refused, as did early Christians. Likely that, today, most “Catholics” would be happy to give that demanded “pinch” — is that all the government wants, they would ask? Time for such people to get serious about their Faith, or leave the Church.
” There are some plans available for religious based groups that do not have that coverage in the normal plan but have ways available for people to buy it on a separate rider. ”
Then it is the obligation of the Church to make this known, and for millions of Catholics to work to make this affordable.
And you are wrong Bob One, OBAMACARE does FORCE people to have Government Insurance which is their goal – if you do away with all the temporary exemptions that Obama has given to his buddies – the Unions, etc.
Any Catholic Charity that promotes any insurance plan that supports ABORTION, or other Intrinsic Evils is doing the work of the devil.
They should stay out of the government’s business, and not be involved because they are getting paid in federal grants from the Government.
People should report any Catholic Charity (that encourages people to sign up for pro-abortion Obamacare) as required in “On the Service of Charity”.
See contact info on Vatican web site.
Why should we blindly support our local parishes when our money ends up in the hands of bishops who promote and support Obamacare (with a few, easily overlooked reservations regarding abortion and contraception, ). Hmm, maybe the ends justify the means in their minds. Oh yeah, these same bishops are closely aligned with President Obama in encouraging and defending massive illegal immigration. In fact, most diocesan dollars are spent on these type of social justice programs. On the other hand, there is minimal focus on catechesis. Maybe, the bishops figure it’s better to keep the masses ignorant so their wallets will remain open.
When giving $ to your Parish, you can dedicate /require in writing that it be used only for building funds or other specific Parish debts.
Giving to the poor under “subsidiarity” can be through your local St. Vincent de Paul, etc.
Money speaks louder than words.
This is what happens when the USCCB charities – CCHD, “Catholic Charities”, and CRS get over $63 MILLION dollars in Federal Grants each year to do the government’s bidding.
Mt 6:21 – JESUS: ” For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.”
This is why the USCCB does not publically address all the INTRINSIC EVILS in the National Democratic Platform – Abortion, Homosexual Marriage, etc.
Is it possible that the Bishops, on the other hand, are providing a maximum focus on catechesis, and we are not hearing it or understanding it as we should? Just asking? Even our Pope has called on us to be a world without borders, to take care of the poor of the world and to provide for the less fortunate among us. The Catholic faith has a very large component of doing good for others, doesn’t it?
May I ask a question, please? Of you or anyone else who wants to reply. If you work in a job that provides health insurance as a benefit, and if that health insurance includes coverage for abortion and birth control, is it moral to accept that job? Is it moral to accept the insurance? If it IS moral, why is accepting that job or that insurance any different than accepting the same insurance that government is now asking you to receive from your employer, pay for yourself, or pay a tax/fee to the government instead? Really, what, exactly, is the moral difference?