The Obama administration is getting ready to issue new rules requiring charities to provide abortions to child refugees entering the US without their parents. Faith-based groups say this is a contravention of the rights of parents and a violation of the conscience rights of faith-based groups helping resettle the children.
The public has until Monday to comment on the fast-tracked new rules, which were issued on Christmas Eve. The administration says it would be “contrary to the public interest” to wait “until a public notice and comment process is complete.” The administration also asserts that no Congressional review is required and that there is no issue with federalism or any impact on families in the new guidance.
The rules require faith-based providers to make referrals for emergency contraception, partner with groups which provide abortion, or notify the federal government which would make arrangements for the abortion. If groups do not do so, they are not eligible for federal aid. Staff associated with Catholic agencies told the Friday Fax that they had conveyed their objection to the new rules to the Obama administration. They are required to comply no later than June 24, 2015.
The rules also require care provider facilities to train their staff in “LGBTQI” and identifying “transgender and intersex” unaccompanied children. The rules assert that “‘Gender’ refers to the attitudes, feelings, and behaviors that a given culture associates with a person’s biological sex,” and that “This term is not to be confused with ‘sex’ [which] refers to a person’s biological status and is typically categorized as male, female, or intersex.”
To help care workers identify a child’s sex the rules advise, “There are a number of indicators of biological sex, including sex chromosomes, gonads, internal reproductive organs, and external genitalia.” “‘Gender identity,’ refers to one’s sense of oneself as a male, female, or transgender,” it says.
Several human rights instruments require nations to protect children from predation by adults. In cases where parents are still alive, this includes their rights to raise their children in accordance with their religious beliefs.
Even so, in 2013 UNICEF issued a report claiming that children as young as ten years of age have the “right” to sexual and reproductive health services without parental consent. To justify the assertion, UNICEF referred to the comments by the committee that oversees implementation on the Convention on the Rights of the Child. That same committee told the Holy See last year that its opposition to teen sex and abortion represented a violation of the treaty.
Faith-based experts told the Friday Fax that people can send comments to the Obama administration that the requirement to perform, partner or refer for abortion or contraception are a violation of conscience rights.
The story comes from a Feb. 20 story on C-Fam.
THIS MAN THINKS HE IS KING!!! HOW ARROGANT HE IS, TO THE MAX.
And “Catholics” voted for this man! Don’t even pretend to be surprised, and guess what? More religious persecutions are coming. Well done, faux Catholics!
Amen. The Catholics who voted for Obama should have known what they were getting, from his brief political record. You reap what you sow. No surprises there.
I have been a strong supporter of Catholic Charities for years, and I have never known of government grants that required going against our basic beliefs in doing the good work. Others have warned that if you take government money the government will try to control everything. I have disagreed with that position because I never saw it. If this article is correct, however, perhaps it is time for church charity groups to pull away from any government sponsored grants. It will mean giving up a huge percentage of the good work that is done by these agencies to the detriment of the people they serve. We cannot, however, allow the government to tell us how to live our religion. This is a sorry state of affairs.
Well, well, well Bob One looks like you are finally waking to one of the main reasons I detest the Left and Liberals….You have never understood that the main goal of the Left is complete and total control..
And you, Bob One, want these same people to control your health care. Wake up, man! Wake up!
Bob, glad your head is finally coming out of the sand. Google Stephen Mosher and Catholic Charity and get familiar with its corruption.
If Catholics want to remain Catholics, they will not listen to the agencies that tell you that “it is the law”. Obama or anyone else cannot force others to do what they honestly believe to be wrong. Laws are made to protect people. What he wants is not protection but is a direct violation to the freedom of people.
Ed Marks i completely agree with you.
Although I never voted for Obama, I support NOT giving Federal or State Grants to any Catholic Charity.
Obama did not lie. He always said he supported Abortion and Sodomy marriage.
This is what all Voters can expect – no surprise.
Approx $63 MILLION in grants annually is keeping Diocese Bishops and others from completely and accurately teaching the Faith.
It also keeps them from teaching that Catholics should NOT vote for
pro-abortion, pro-euthanasia, pro-contraception, politicians – which are Sins of Omission (if not commission) on the Bishop’s part.
Let the governments do their own jobs. without adding another layer of bureaucracy – eating up our tax dollars.
JESUS never told us to Partner with governments
to help the poor to the best of our ability.
JESUS also said “where your treasure is, so there will be your heart”. Mt 6:19-21.
This includes Clergy.
Money corrupts. Follow the money.
The USCCB’s – CCHD, Catholic Charities, and CRS have a history of working with and passing on government grants to groups that oppose and work against the Catholic Faith teaching – regarding the INSTRINSIC Evils of: Abortion, Contraception, Euthanasia, Sodomy Marriage, and Embryonic Stem Cell Research.
This is all in direct DSIOBEDIENCE and in VIOLATION of Motu Proprio
“ON THE SERVICE of CHARITY” which went into effect Dec, 2012,
https://w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/motu_proprio/documents/hf_ben-xvi_motu-proprio_20121111_caritas.html
Haven’t you ever wondered why many Bishops do not enforce Canon 915 – for politicians who publically commit Sacrilege against the Body and Blood of Our Lord ?
Because they do not want to bite the DEMOCRATIC hands that feed them.
Money talks.
The best thing that could happen in the USA would be for the government to quit giving Grants to any Catholic charitable organization,
or for Catholic charitable organizations to stop taking government grants.
(What do you want to bet that CCHD, Catholic Charities, and CRS do NOT have the INTEGRITY to stop taking government money. They love the money more than the Catholic Faith.)
Seems simple enough: the USCCB and Catholic Charities simply tell the US government that they will not take part in this program. You would think the bishops would have already moved on this, but they never do quite get it.
Some of the Bishops and some staffers at the USCCB don’t believe in the Catholic Faith, – they put man above God.
(“If you love Me you will keep My Commandments” – Jesus.)
And they don’t care about the true teachings of the church.
But they do care about MONEY $$,$$$,$$$.$$ and perpetuating:
1) their own bureaucracies;
2) propagating their own political beliefs which conflict with the Faith;
3) and the fleeting earthly Power that comes with MONEY.
They merely want to be an earthly political force.
If they truly cared about the Catholic Faith, they would teach Catholics not to Vote for any politician who supports the INTRINSIC EVILS of: abortion, contraception, euthanasia, sodomy marriage, embryonic stem cell research, and human cloning.
Government MONEY would not be important since Jesus never taught us to partner with any government.
How many Bishops and Priests do this ? ? ? ? ?
Bob One: Re your 21 Feb post. I agree with you. But let me point out one Bishop who does get it. His name is Bishop John O. Barres. He, in the past (don’t know about the present) declined to have the Campaign for Human Development collection taken up in his Allentown, Pa. diocese. Let me tell you about him. He is the only son of two Congregationalist ministers who converted to Catholicism. He is a fairly young man, and went from being a priest to head of a Diocese when he was quite young. Anyone who knows him—or has even met him—will tell you he’s a delightfully real man who is gentlemanly, humble, eager to listen and with a great (though subtle) sense of humor. But no naif; he knows how the game is played. No surprise there, given his academic credentials: Phillips Andover Academy; Princeton; MBA from NYU; three masters degrees in theology; a masters degree in canon law; and a doctorate in sacred theology—three of those degrees earned in Rome. He’s an athlete, too, just to round things off. But plenty of multiple-degree holders can’t see past the ends of their noses. Not him. Much more street savvy than you would ever imagine. Under Benedict XVI one would have expected a continued meteoric rise for him. But with the likes of Cardinal Rodriguez Maradiaga advising Pope Francis, who knows?
The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution states: ” Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…” The Obama regime, by-passing Congress, has ruled that Catholic Charities must provide abortions to refugee children, unaccompanied by parents. This ruling prohibits Catholic Charities from exercising their religion. It appears that Catholic Charities cannot accept any government funds. It is obvious, once again, that Obama is anti -Catholic. Previously he ordered Catholic organizations to provide insurance coverage for abortions. It was obvious during his first term that Obama was unfriendly to Catholicism. Any Catholic, including clergy, who voted for Obama should be ashamed of themselves.
Sarah, the government can make any rules they want regarding their own GRANTS and tax dollars.
This is not the decision of the Church.
The real issue is that all charities that call themselves “Catholic” should not be taking government GRANTS. Period !
He who owns the gold, sets the rules.
The Catholic Church should not be working for the Government.
Let the Government take care of their own problems.
Let me know if you can find anywhere in the Bible that Jesus says – we should partner with any government in order to help the poor.
I will give you a clue – He did not teach that.
Kristin, Not only did Catholic laymen vote for Obama, many priests and religious, as well as several bishops and archbishops voted for Obama. The Catholic Church is no longer unified, because the truth is no longer taught, and everyone believes that truth is relative as well as changeable. The evil piper has been picked, and he is leading his followers to hell, with hardly any apposition from the clergy. God is NOT impressed.
No, He is not impressed, but He is in control. Penance, penance, penance!
Yeah but He taking way too long….
Obama is despicable. Plain and simple. I wish people had not been beguiled by him and thus we would not have been subjected to two terms of his tyranny.
Tyranny? Persecution? IS beheading 21 Coptic Christians is real Persecution. Must you feel so bad about the “tyranny” of our freely elected officials?
Yes, especially when these freely elected officials decide I must be punished for my beliefs. Like the bakers who declined to make wedding cakes for same sex “weddings”, those who disagree will be sued, fined, forced out of business. Children will be taken from parents who refuse to bow to the tyranny you so easily dismiss. Don’t believe that death, by beheading or other form, cannot happen in a civilized Western nation. Got Nazis?
Oh for crying out loud Kristin! Demanding that a business arrange flowers for all its customers is not in any way comparable to an institution that fumigated and burned 8 million human beings.
Wrong again YFC, its all about the State controlling us, and making us go against our beliefs…but you are Leftist so you probably don’t get that concept.
All part of the same nasty tyranny that comes forth when people like you refuse to see how evil progresses. And yes, you should be crying out loud – for all persecuted people, be they born or unborn.
and President Obama is doing nothing about ISIS. He exchanged five of our Islamic (yes Islamic) terrorists we were holding for one American soldier, whom I believe was Muslim. Does that sound like a fair exchange. Now they have taken more American hostages including a teen, non Muslim. Wake up, people. Wake up!
Obama is the most pro-abortion, anti-Catholic President in the history of the United States of America. I keep remembering that video of Cardinal Dolan glad handing and yucking it up with Obama at the Al Smith Dinner. I’ll bet that Al Smith was rolling in his grave. Many “Catholics” voted for Obama. How can you vote for evil and then claim to be Catholic?
” How can you vote for evil and then claim to be Catholic?”
Ask Each of the US Bishops (and all Parish Priests) this question.
– especially Dolan & Cupich.
Many Catholics who voted for Obama need to make a good examination of conscience, and then go to Convession.
As for Bishops and Priests who do not do their job or give scandal – Hosea 4:6.
Obama had publically supported abortion, and contraception at taxpayer expense.
Obama had publically supported sodomy marriage.
Obama made fun of Sacred Scripture – especially Christ’s beatitudes.
Obama opposes freedom of religion in his administrative policies.
Like Rudy Giuliani said.
Is the USCCB going to just sit down, as usual– and let Obama run all over them– to the point where they give up on Catholic Charities, in the end— and close the doors to this agency forever?? IS THAT ALL THEY ARE CAPABLE OF DOING?? DISGRACE!!
The Catholic Church, along with most of western civilization is crumbling right before our very eyes, and we are too blind to see this. Much of this is due to the Vatican II document instruction dealing with blending pagan practices into the mainstream. The Church is no longer seen as a religious or supernatural organization, but as a civil and cultural club. The papacy has become a democratic institution, with the pope as a CEO, and the secretary of state being the main leader, having basically more power than the pope. The Church used to give glory to God, but now worships mankind. With only vague opposition to the satanic Obama mandates, there will only be a small remnant left of faithful Catholics because of the self destruction of the Church.
Jesuita, you hit the nail on the head! If Vatican II had never happened things would be far, far different today.
This is what happens when Bishops say they are being “PASTORAL” without TRUTH.
https://w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/motu_proprio/documents/hf_ben-xvi_motu-proprio_20121111_caritas.html
Publically and Socially joining those who choose to support mortal sin, rather than correcting them,
and if Catholic disciplining them if necessary (Canon 915),
is not only a mortal sin of Scandal for others, but does not teach the sinner anything and appears to condone his/her sin. (This is evidenced by Catholic politicians who continue to support abortion and homosexual marriage.)
This is why the USCCB’s CCHD, Catholic Charities, and CRS must no longer be permitted to take Government Grants – which always has strings attached.
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“ON the SERVICE of CHARITY”
” The Church’s charitable activity at all levels must avoid the risk of becoming just another form of organized social assistance”.
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” Article 1 § 3. In addition to observing the canonical legislation,
the collective charitable initiatives to which this Motu Proprio refers are required to follow Catholic principles in their activity
and they may not accept commitments which could in any way affect the observance of those principles.”
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” Article 10 § 3. In particular, the diocesan Bishop is to ensure that charitable agencies dependent upon him do not receive financial support from groups or institutions that pursue ends contrary to Church’s teaching.
Similarly, lest scandal be given to the faithful, the diocesan Bishop is to ensure that these charitable agencies do not accept contributions for initiatives whose ends.
No!!!
Thank you John Feeney for your post. It is what I have been telling my Catholic friends ever since I saw Cardinal Dolan at the Al Smith Dinner with Barack Obama. Cardinal Dolan gave his seal of approval to the most pro abortion president the U.S. has ever had. That is when I lost all respect for Cardinal Dolan. If he had his druthers, wonder what he would say and do now? Barack Obama was pro abortion when he was Senator in Illinois and voted against the Born Alive Act. Putting live aborted babies on trays in utility closets to die is not humane. If anyone doubts this, check what Jill Stanek testified to in court.
And the bishops and Catholic Charities did not see this coming???????? Don’t make me laugh. Catholic Charities is deaf, dumb and spiritually blind thanks to the kaching of Federal monies (our tax money). Next up: the immigrants Catholic Charities has been getting “grants” to “welcome” and distribute across the country. Tell me there is no free ticket to Planned Parenthood included in the Catholic Charities welcome wagon?
We need to get real and say straight out: Much of the USCCB is the Democratic party at prayer. Bishops Stephen Blaire and Gerald Kickanas being prime examples.
To repeat what I have written before. The head of the local Catholic Charities is totally for Obama, as has been witnessed by her letters to the local newspaper. She also supported all the pro Sodomite candidates, and the pro abortion candidates as well. Catholic Charities is NEITER Catholic, nor is it charitable, and I stand by these words which I have written. The organization is more interested in liberation theology than in spreading Catholic truths.
Catholic Charities has been concerned about conscience protection for a long time.
The headline Obama tells Catholic Charities they have to give abortion referrals just is not true.
This is a proposed government regulation that you should be contacting your senators and representatives about because the administration is skirting the law again.
Post your comment about support of conscience rights on the government site.
The issue is not how bad Catholic Charities is for accepting government money.
You are the government-do your job.
Anonymous, it would be better for all of us to tell our Federal Representatives to stop giving tax dollars to any religious groups.
In the case of all Catholic charities they would then be forced to be true to the Faith that they advertise.
Government should not show favoritism or give tax dollars to any Faith. The Catholics and Baptists take the most money GRANTS from the Feds.
As a Catholic, I object.
This is a multi-million dollar business, and has got to stop.
Let your voice be heard. But in this case, it means that unaccompanied children who are raped will be in secular institutions with no one to advise them on the immoral nature of emergency contraception.
Unaccompanied children (including those who are raped)
should stay at home in their own Country with their own Parents or other close relatives !
Send them home asap. It is immoral to keep them here. This is the worst breaking up of families that the USCCB could ever support.
When the USCCB supports NOT closing the Border to ILLEGALS, the Bishops end up supporting all kinds of evil such as MORE: breaking up of families; sex trafficking; drug trafficking, gang expansion, etc.
As a Catholic (who attends Mass every Sunday and Holy Day),
I also support the government NOT providing any religiously affiliated charity with Government Grants.
This is due mostly to the USCCB (and their charities) involving themselves in politics that have nothing to do with the Salvation of Souls,
or outright defying Church teaching regarding Intrinsic Evils by their actions.
And because too many US Bishops cause Scandal by publically socializing with pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, etc., politicians. And refuse to correct or discipline Catholic politicians as necessary.
If there is NO BIG-MONEY INCENTIVE, perhaps we can get most Bishops and Priests to start teaching the Faith accurately and publically.
As others have posted, JESUS was right as always.
“FOR WHERE YOUR TREASURE IS, THERE WILL BE YOUR HEART ALSO”. Mt 6:21.
Jesus will give us what we need to help the poor. We must rely on JESUS, NOT on the government. – – – – – -Trusting in the government has become a sin of Idolatry.
Far too many of our high ranking CLERGY in the US rely on the Government rather than God.
Abt $63,000,000.00 – MILLIONs annually, is a significant treasure.
Much of the annual $63,000,000.00 Million Dollars in Government Grants to USCCB organizations goes to support ILLEGAL Immigration.
If it were not for the BIG BUSINESS of giving government grants to those who support ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, perhaps the USCCB would not be so active in promoting ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION without border control.
Their financial incentive would be gone.
ILLEGAL immigration is a cash cow for the USCCB and it’s so called charities.
Follow the money.
This whole thing may be blown out of proportion. It does not seem that CC would be required to refer for abortion.
This is a policy for responding to allegations of sexual abuse and sexual harassment in unaccompanied youth.
Subpart J
“ORR is mindful that some potential and existing grantees and contractors may have religious or moral objections to providing certain kinds of services, including referrals (for example, for emergency contraception). ORR is committed to providing resources and referrals for the full range of legally permissible services to UCs who need them, helping to facilitate access to these options, and doing so in a timely fashion and in a manner that respects the diverse religious and cultural backgrounds of UCs. At the same time, ORR is also committed to finding ways for organizations to partner with us, even if they object to providing specific services on religious grounds.”
Partnering with the devil !
Catholic charities are required to evangelize, not merely be another social services or organization.
What does the government say to that ? ? ? ?
See: “On the SERVICE of CHARITY” – Motu Proprio, which went into effect Dec. 2012.
Sexual abuse has nothing to do with the MURDER of INNNOCENTS though ABORTION.
Anonymous, I am disappointed you.
And there is no excuse for ABORTION using contraceptive pills.
Even though they may not make the recommendations themselves but knowing that others would do so,
Catholic charities would become Remote Participants in abortion – the government’s “emergency contraceptives’.
This is pure EVIL,
This is about the policy about sexual abuse and sexual harassment of unaccompanied children, Click the links.
Anonymous, based upon your posting, the Government would be requiring Catholic charities to be remote participants in ABORTION.
They have no authority to be ANY kind of participant – even if someone else is tasked with doing the dirty work.
Have you refused to read the REQUIRED
“ON the SERVICE of CHARITY”
https://w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/motu_proprio/documents/hf_ben-xvi_motu-proprio_20121111_caritas.html ,
or are you merely being obstinate in promoting sin – to get the big bucks from the government ?
Money mean more to you than human lives ?
Being mean and offensive does not help all..
Don’t forget to add false accusation to your lenten confession.
Yesterday, our Pastor asked us to donate to Catholic Charities for Lenten almsgiving. I have been aware of the problem of CC not being Catholic for a while. He went on to explain the money would be going to help with the heating bills that families cannot pay. (It’s been very cold up here in the northeast)
However, it being Catholic Charities, I could not comply. It was truely heartbreaking as we would love the opportunity to help in this way.
Any suggestions?
Give to your local St. Vincent de Paul Society. They help those who need assistance in paying bills.
If the government forces Catholic Charities to go against our religious values and teachings, we should get rid of the programs for which we have government grants. However, it is important to know that a lot of the work of Catholic Charities is not involved with government grants. Catholic Charities operates with funds provided by annual or semi-annual parish second collections. Money does go for heat, deposits for apartments for families with no money, help with clothes, especially for the kids, etc. I think it is a serious error to not contribute to CC. One of the main reasons Catholic Charities has government grants is that that is where the money is for programs that they could not otherwise provide for the poor. This is all the result of the Bush Administration’s efforts to rely on faith based organizations to deliver a lot of government programs. We are not the only church involved with these programs. In fact, many times the awards are based on competitive bidding. But, it is true, and evidently becoming more so, that if you take government money you have to live by their rules. In the first paragraph of the article, go to “new rules” and you will see what is involved. But please, don’t stop giving to Catholic Charities because they do a lot of good work that is not government funded. And, if they lose that funding they will have to rely more and more on donations from the pews. By the way, donations from the pews and government money is not fungible.
Until the USCCB’s – CCHD, Catholic Charities, and CRS stop working for the Government by taking approx. $63 MILLION annually in Grants, I will not support them.
They should not be doing the Government’s job.
(In addition much of their millions in grants is used to support ILLEGAL immigration.)
You are correct that we must help the poor. This can be done by giving to your local ‘St. Vincent de Paul’,
and/or ‘Aid to the Church in Need’,
https://www.churchinneed.org/site/PageServer?pagename=mainpage
In addition you can volunteer to help through your local St. Vincent de Paul.
Find out about the Catholic charities in you area who give the money directly to help people. The St. Vincent De Paul Society is usually pretty good in most places, or you can call The American Life League to find out a safe Catholic charity in your rea, or give directly to someone you know in need, You can call your local Catholic pro life centers, too, and see what organization they recommend or give to the pro life centers or nuns.
Thank you Father Karl for enlightening the uninformed and the ignorant who do not want to know the truth about many Catholic organizations. Another to check out is – Catholic Relief Services. This once great organization has been hijacked by the liberal left. Join a 40 Days for Life in your area and show where you stand against the Pro Abortion forces. They will be standing outside of your local Planned Parenthood – usually saying the Rosary. Join them and show your courage against the evil one. It will be the best hour you will spend all week long…other than attending holy mass.
The Catholic Charities that I have personal knowledge of are 100% Catholic. They uphold all teachings of the Catholic Church. No messing about at all.
Anonymous, then you do not know the CCHD, Catholic Charities, or CRS.
But for the sake of this post, let’s suppose you are correct.
That would mean that if it meant being a remote participant in any Intrinsic Evil, or violating “On the Service of Charity”
that the Catholic charities, you seen to know would not take one penny from the Federal Government. Correct ?
Yes.
Neither will I donate to the Bishop’s Appeal each year, because most of the Bishops are not doing their jobs in teaching and guarding their respective flocks with sound and true Catholic Doctrine and true Catholic teaching and insisting upon the same by their priests. I say FEW of them, with a FEW notable exceptions. Too many are wishy-washy and have turned over their dioceses to weak priests and strong radical Nuns and laypeople who run things as they see fit. Let us see some priests and Bishops who run things the old way, with truth and wisdom and competence.
Given that some state and local Catholic Charities have made abortion referrals and their involvement with the alphabet-soup group, I do not think that they would object to either activity.
So, in a nutshell, the POTUS is informing Catholic Charities to “GO TO HELL.” No, thanks. He is free go go unaccompanied by us.
OneoftheSheep, most of us hope you are right. But the pull of money for the USCCB and their CCHD, Catholic Charities, and CRS may be too strong.
Follow the Money.
Bishops need to get out of the charity business except to insure that those charities who advertise themselves as “Catholic” within their own Diocese are in 100% compliance with Church teaching.
CCHD – Director McCloud involved in political and anti-Catholic activities.
https://www.lepantoinstitute.org/cchd-leadership/
For Fiscal Year 2014-2015, six affiliates of Interfaith Worker Justice received grants from the CCHD totaling $280,000:
Northwest Arkansas Workers’ Justice Center – 50,000, Center for Worker Justice of Eastern Iowa – 45,000, Centro de Trabajadores Unidos en la Lucha (CTUL) – 70,000, New Labor Education & Training Institute – 40,000, Restaurant Opportunities Center of New York – 50,000, Workers’ Dignity Project – 25,000. The Reform CCHD Now coalition previously profiled 4 of these organizations for the following violations of CCHD grant guidelines: ….”
CATHOLIC CHARITIES heavily involved in supporting ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.
CRS: Involved – CRS and My Changing Body”
Catholic Relief Services implemented a Planned Parenthood style sex education program in Rwanda. This program promotes abortifacient contraception, masturbation, and homosexuality.
https://www.lepantoinstitute.org/crs-changing-body/
Im sick of Obama. Too many years having to deal with his leadership. He does not represent our values. He only imposes his.
Abeca, you and many others may be sick of President Obama, but it would be more accurate to say that he does not represent your values. Let’s not forget that he was elected twice by a large margin, which say that the majority of voters in the country agree that he represents their values, or that he was the lesser of two evils, maybe?
Bob One, are you another “Catholic” who voted for Obama, the most anti-Catholic, pro abortion President in the history of the America?
John Feeney, I saw the vote count. Let’s keep in mind that the Church is not representative of the culture in America. We get outvoted every time.
So John Feeney, you voted for the non-Christian Romney, who was pro-abort before he started running for national office, and who has binders full of women and insists that the majority of Americans will only vote for Obama because government bribes them???
Of course, the other option was voting for the demonstrably non-Christian Obama, who is rabidly pro partial birth abortion and has a White House full of women being paid less than their male counterparts and who had supporters actually saying he would pay their mortgages and fill their gas tanks as they collect their government benefits…
And YFC, you voted for Obama, the most pro-abortion, anti Catholic President in the history of America. He’s the guy that wanted “comfort rooms” at abortion facilities so that babies who survived an abortion could be left there to die with no food or water. You voted for evil!
John Feeney, how do you know who I voted for?
Yes its what it is, disappointing. But thats life bob. Bob one Nothing new under the sun. Its history repeating itself. Secularism. Read the bible and the CCC and understand that “my” values where handed down by Christ. I fear the Lord. But cant you tell that not all are willing to take up their cross and walk with Christ? Not an easy task but with love we can endure. So yes im sick of Obama because it pains me that a man like him was given so much power and he dishonors our Lord with it. Many unborn are dying too. Thats more than sick. God have mercy.
And YFC, how do you know who I voted for? Your previous post stated that you knew. It wasn’t the pro-abortion anti Catholic candidate, Obama.
Bob One, Obama does not represent the values of ANY Catholic.
Perhaps Catholic heretics, but not Catholics.
Abortion, Sodomy Marriage, Embryonic Stem Cell Research, denying Freedom of Religion via his executive orders, – these are the things that those who voted for Obama support.
Any Catholic who voted from Obama needs to go to Confession regarding their support for a Politician who openly and clearly supports Intrinsic Evils.
Oh, and for all Christians – Obama’s anti-Christian hatred of the Bible and His making fun of CHRIST’s beatitudes – Sermon on the Mount – Mt 5:1-11.
Here OBAMA is in his OWN mocking words:
Didn’t that incompetent megalomaniac win the Catholic vote in 2008 and 2012?
Votes have consequences. Learn from it.
Ted your preaching to the choir. All others wont learn from it because they wanted this immoral man to run our country. Obama was able to convince people that its better to embrace his liberal ways. We were outgunned, not enough mula to educate folks. Too many people not voting because they didnt like neither candidates so they left it for the secular to decide the worst candidate. I cant tell you enough how many people still think he is a good man. When you tell them about his pro abortion views, they dont believe you. Its terrible.
Average of 97% of CC funding comes from the government – they, CC long ago sold their soul to the Feds.
DomenicoAntone, you need to present the data. Most Catholic Charities don’t get nearly that much money from government grants. And, if they got enough contributions from the folks in the pew they wouldn’t have to take any money from government grants to do the work of the Church.
“And, if *they* got enough contributions from the folks in the pew they wouldn’t have to take any money from government grants to do the work of the Church.”
= WRONG!
Obama sure loves to use that word “folks” too. They WERE getting enough money from the “folks” when the faith was flourishing and being taught. Mr. Bob One, When you strive to be faithful to “all” of the teachings the most incredible blessings flow and God ALWAYS provides. Our pastor once received a $10,000 check in the mail from an anonymous donor who just happened to be visiting in the area for Sunday Mass. This anonymous donor wrote a note that he had not heard the truth taught like that in so many years and he was so moved he sent that $10,000 donation. This was not the first time that happened either. Generosity to God through obedience will be rewarded in unimaginable ways. Mr. Bob One, We cannot brag about soup kitchen dedication by day and then go home to use artificial contraception or have same sex or heterosexual shack ups or commit adultery by night. The Catholic Faith IS the ULTIMATE ‘Field of Dreams.’ Christ built it and if you authentically teach it and defend it, they will always come and so do all of the graces and blessings in many various forms. You “folks” just refuse to really believe that.
They get grants from federal, state and local governments as well as private grantors and charitable donations as well as diocesan funding.
I believe the average of government funding is 65%.
Blind giving to CRS, CCHD and various “second collection” appeals is irresponsible and only perpetuates a systems that has been corrupted and compromised. Give responsibly and generously to charities where you KNOW where the money is going, not to every panhandling agency of the Federal Government using the Church as its collection agency. Just because someone is asking you for money within the walls of a church doesn’t mean the cause is legitimate.
Good stewardship means responsible giving.
I agree Dave. N. Its our hard earned money and with that comes a responsibility to make sure its used in ways that honor God almighty.
Obama can and does tell organizations what they can and can not do with Government Money – Federal Grants.
Federal Grants are his business as he holds the top executive position in the Government.
(If Obama breaks the law, someone will have to take him to Court.)
The USCCB must be made to understand that they are furthering Satan’s works when their CCHD, CRS, and Catholic Charities – take government funds.
Government funds ALWAYS have strings attached.
For more info see the article about the heretical NETWORK called “Follow the Money”.
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