On May 1, San Francisco’s ABC TV affiliate reported that officials at Notre Dame High School in Belmont rescinded a speaking invitation to homosexual/ same-sex ‘marriage’ activist Gregg Cassin. The disinvitation followed a March 21 CalCatholic article “LGBT activist leads retreat at Notre Name de Namur.” The article, the first in an ongoing series on the influence of homosexual activists in the departments of religious education in the high schools of the archdiocese of San Francisco, documented Cassin’s support for same-sex marriage, quoting from his own website He is an LGBT rights activist helping to organize and emcee anti-Prop 8 rallies since 2008. According to ABC, Cassin got a telephone call the night before his most recent scheduled presentation “They said, ‘The principal doesn’t want you to come.'” ABC also reported “Cassin believes the school uninvited him because of what was written on the California Catholic Daily website,” and that “many alumni are rallying in support of Cassin and his message.”
ABC’s story was followed by similar stories the San Mateo Daily Journal and the San Francisco Examiner. Despite the disinvitation and his open opposition to Catholic teaching, Notre Dame apparently sees no problem with Cassin’s presence, and that their action was tactical. The Examiner reported: “Cassin said he was informed by a Notre Dame teacher that Head of School Maryann Osmond had asked him not to come back this year.
The snub was apparently in response to a series of articles published in late March on the website California Catholic Daily…’I saw it as controversial,’ Osmond said of the stories. ‘I was being told that it was getting a lot of attention and I thought the best way to proceed was to diffuse things and resume Gregg’s relationship next year.” Later in the same article Osmond said “I want him to continue to speak at Notre Dame.” All three news outlets reported that Cassin had been speaking at the school for 20 or more years.
The homosexual infestation at Notre Dame High School was noted, by Catholic media, more than 15 years ago. On November 19, 1998, Teresa Cepeda, a reporter for the Catholic weekly, the Wanderer, covered the “Gay, Lesbian, Straight Education Network” conference. Her article on the event, “Gay Friendly Agenda Gaining Footholds in Catholic Schools Around the Country,” was also picked up by Catholic World News. Cepeda reported, “John Otterford, a religion teacher at Notre Dame High School in Belmont, California, noted that he is trying to get his administration to do faculty in services on gay issues.”
Cepeda had the teacher’s name wrong: it is actually John Ottersberg. By 2011, Ottersberg had become the school’s director of campus ministry. Bed, Bath and Beyond’s wedding gift registry has a page for Ottersberg and another man, with the information “event date: 7/18/2009” and “event type: wedding.” Ottersberg no longer works at Notre Dame: he is currently a member of the campus ministry at St. Ignatius College Prep in San Francisco.
While Notre Dame de Namur High School is under the control of a religious order, meaning the power of the local bishop is limited, the school is still listed as a Catholic school on the archdiocesan website and on the website of the San Francisco Department of Catholic Schools.
The leadership of Notre Dame De Namur’s California province consists of: Sister Louise O’Reilly, SND; Sister Georgianna Coonis, SND; and Sister Virginia Unger, SND. All may be contacted at: Sisters of Notre Dame de Namur Province Center, 1520 Ralston Avenue, Belmont CA 94002.
For the archdiocese of San Francisco, contact: Maureen Huntington, superintendent of Catholic Schools; Laura Held, assistant superintendent, Faith Formation and Religious Instruction; Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone; all at the archdiocese of San Francisco, One Peter Yorke Way, San Francisco CA 94109.
Most important is to contact the principal of your local Catholic elementary schools. Almost all enrollment to Catholic high schools come from Catholic elementary feeder schools. The elementary principals may be unaware of the catastrophic state of religious education in archdiocesan high schools, and they are the persons with the greatest ability to effect change.
“I think for me the biggest story is this witch-hunt that this right-wing Catholic website has on the LGBT community,” he said. “It’s really damaging and it sends schools into a little bit of a tailspin. They wonder ‘what’s going to happen? Is the archdiocese is going to come down on them?’ Is LGBT staff safe? Is there going to be some sort of mandate?” Gregg Cassin
“All of those schools [that CCD wrote about in the series] should have come together immediately and taken a stand,” he said. “I would love to have the four schools meet. It would be a show of unity and not cowering to that kind of bigotry. The Archdiocese is staying out of it, so we should be taking the stand. We know our values and what our hearts require of that and that is inclusion. A much greater majority of Catholics are in support of gay rights and LGBT equality. It’s ridiculous to cower to a few archaic, mean-spirited people.”
Anonymous, you said, “We know OUR “VALUES” and what our hearts require of that and that is INCLUSION”. Your “values” are not Catholic Virtues. You hate Catholic virtues. You will likely never stop fighting until YOUR VALUES are enshrined into the Catholic Church.
Thank you CCD and the Wanderer, as well as all of you other brave and faithful Catholic publications for exposing these wicked people who have nothing but wicked designs on the Church and her members. May our Good Shepard return our straying Catholic brethren to their right senses.
Tracy-Can you not read? or click a link?
These are quotes from Mr. Cassin.
Saying one thing for the press, but doing another is the mark of a hypocrite.
I call it deceitful.
Tracy, perhaps you didn’t catch that Anonymous was quoting, for people like you, the response by Greg Cassin and others, so that you would go off again on Cassin? But instead you went off on the Anonymous who quoted him. Oops.
I did not want them to go off on him. I posted it because what he said was relevant and it showed his viewpoint. He is an activist and that is his priority so he does not treat us with respect or understanding. It kind of blew his whole “love and understanding and acceptance” image right out of the water. I think that maybe he’s all about self-acceptance, not about accepting and loving others. And, YFC, I acknowledge that there is bigotry on this website and that you have been often treated badly by people whose stereotypes of gay people are offensive. I have learned a lot from you but I also know that you are not 100% in conformity with the Catholic Church. And that is the standard that we hold people to.
Anonymous, I did miss the fact that you were quoting Cassin, so I stand corrected. So you may now contribute my response to Cassin as well as to ALL of those who hold his views.
I see that you decided not to take a position on the vial things he said, so only you know if my comments still apply to you. It is a grave offense against God that this man has been allowed to spread his HERETICAL VIEWS at a Catholic School. :(
I found his comments offensive and objectionable. I found them elitist and anti-Catholic. He had plenty of opportunity to comment on the original story but he chose not to. I was disappointed in him. I felt his words were very hurtful and unnecessary. He certainly did not live up to his reputation as an anti-bullying, accepting person.
The word is vile.
Your wishes for their return to the fullness of the Faith for the most part will go unheeded because to them you are a hater! Never mind Our Lord’s own command to admonish the sinner. What does HE know anyway?
Because of the hardness of their hearts, they refuse to see that our attempts to convert them are actually works of love because we try to love the sinner.
The greatest act of HATE is to see that someone is headed toward Eternal Damnation, and not to try to stop them from sending themselves there just as did Satan who in his hate yearns for them to join him in his Eternal Damnation!
Nonetheless, Tracy keep on trying as God will bless you for it!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher, Founding Director
Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc
Once again, all the loving, accepting, anti-bullying people can’t disagree with someone with calling them names.
Have the courage to put your name under your comments. Have enough intellectual honesty to state your belief without labeling those whose beliefs you do not like. Otherwise your opinions do not count.
Danielle, give me a break! Surveys are anonymous. Voting is anonymous.
Do those opinions count?
Romans chapter 1
What is not addressed is that Mr. Cassin has publicly taken a stand to support things that the Catholic Church teaches are gravely immoral. All prayers and love to Mr. Cassin in raising his daughter, in living HIV+, in overcoming bullying and being a dynamic speaker, but we cannot support gay marriage because marriage is a unique covenant between a man and a woman. He wants to portray this as a bigotry issue. It is a consistency issue. LGB people who follow the teachings of the Church are welcome. It is not his sexual orientation that is the issue. Heterosexual or asexual people who publically support immoral choices should not be presenting talks to the students, either. And the protest that there is nothing in his talk that addresses the Church’s teaching is a relief, however by asking him to speak the school is giving the impression that these are not serious issues that a Catholic must obey.
Same sex attraction is merely a temptation; temptations with prayer (God’s help) can be overcome. Temptations in themselves are not sinful.
Homosexual ACTS are MORTAL SINS, and can NEVER be approved.
Bible: Rom 1:24-27; 1 Cor 6:10; 1 Tim 1:10.
CCC: #2357, 2358, 2359 & 2396.
” No authentic pastoral programme will include organizations in which homosexual persons associate with each other without clearly stating that homosexual activity is immoral.
A truly pastoral approach will appreciate the need for homosexual persons to avoid the near occasions of sin. ” – Pope Benedict.
Is this the what Cassin teaches and does ?
Actions and well his words – tell the truth.
Thank you, CCD!
Thank you Cal Catholic for publishing the article.
And thank you to all those who contacted the Archbishop’s Office, and the School.
This never should have happened in the first place. And the person who did the inviting should be reprimanded in his/her personnel file, so it does not happen again.
This has been posted before, but is very important and all Catholic parents should be aware of its’ existence:
Code of Canon Law: Title II, Chapter III – Catholic Education for both Schools and Universities.
” APOSTOLIC CONSTITUTION of SUPREME PONTIFF JOHN PAUL II CATHOLIC UNIVERSITIES” (and colleges)
There is nothing like a good Bishop !
Thank you MAC. Useful information. God bless.
Catholics need to save the links provided by MAC in their ‘favorites’.
If we are to insure that those Schools that call themselves “Catholic”, are truly Catholic rather than fraudulent, I’m sure we will have will to refer to the documents again.
If parents (and students) prefer, they can go to a secular school. They have a choice.
Score one for the Inquisition.
Might help to link to the ABC piece mentioned here. Notice that every single parent interviewed speaks in support of Mr. Cassin:
Nice turn of phrase there with “homosexual infestation” in this piece, btw. It indicates the real motivation of these pieces to be something other than maintaining adherence to official Church teaching.
Should be interesting to see if it motivates some push back. Speaking personally, seeing just how many people see Catholicism primarily as the Church of Anti-Gay has been eye opening and made me want to be more involved in actively countering it. It’s obvious from the comments that the students and parents from the schools assailed as “infested” actively oppose such sentiment as well. Engineering a conflict might actually result in a more organized resistance.
It is incorrect to label the work of a news agency as an “inquisition”. I think the proper terminology would be “investigative reporting”
There have been three “Inquisitions” in Church history. The Spanish Inquisition, which is the one most popularly known about, (although more than likely as it is defined by Protestants), was firstly used to identify Jews and Moors (Muslims) who PRETENDED to convert to Christianity for purposes of political or social advantage. More importantly the job of the Spanish Inquisitor was to clear the good names of many people who were falsely accused of being heretics.
I think it is important for faithful Catholics to have a clear understanding of what the Inquisitions really were about. This link helps to that end: https://www.catholic.com/tracts/the-inquisition
Lol. They “pretended to convert for social and political advantage”. That’s a hilariously quaint way to say Jews/Moors had no choice but to convert or face being tortured, having all wealth confiscated, and being murdered or forcibly expatriated from their country of birth.
That tract is a bit too rosy to give a clear understanding. The Inquisition (in its entirety) was about enforcing orthodoxy by reign of terror. In Spain, it was also about ethnic cleansing and the monarchy stealing wealth from its citizenry. In general, it’s an object lesson in what results when you politically empower religion.
The intent to enforce an orthodoxy by political means is readily apparent here. It’s a self-appointed (and anonymous) Inquisition. Thankfully, the political climate is not amenable to stake burnings.
Reporting fact is important. Why don’t you want people to know the truth of what is happening at an advertised “Catholic” school?
This is a “Catholic” blog site.
If you do not like the Catholic Faith in entirety, you are not required to read or participate in it.
If parents (and students) do not want a Catholic education, they can go to a secular school.
It is fraudulent to advertise as ‘Catholic’ and then not adhere to a Catholic Bible and the ‘Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition” in entirety.
KIMBERLY, All the parents interviewed by the TV news crew – ever single one of them – wanted Cassin to speak. Perhaps that is a fact you don’t want reported?
Siollan, what is your investment in fighting for the Catholic Faith? Is it the Faith? The name Catholic? ‘Your’ cultural heritage that you do not wish to have smeared, that is smeared because you are more concerned with attempting to deflect and/or change that which you do not like about the actual Faith away from yourself?
In other words, if it is just a cultural tag for you to be Catholic and you refuse to give up the name because it is your heritage, but you refuse to accept Catholic for what it actually is, that is your problem. Being Catholic, despite what you may believe due to your Irish heritage, is not like being Italian or Russian etc.
What I see in you is someone who enjoys a good fight and desperately wants to fight for and/or believe in something. But that is not the Catholic Faith. As for stake-burnings, I would say, yes, I’m glad they are not in vogue for it would be the fascist, militant progressives attempting to redefine what is ‘is’ that would be lining up believing Catholics to be made into ash. For it is the government that is now seeking to push its way into the realm of religion.
How about you try returning to the Catholic faith before you accost others for theirs.
Mr YFC before you correct her, you might want to take your own advice. Accost others of theirs? That was laughable Mr. YFC.
People who dissent within the church are already accosting it on their own and causing confusion, which is scandalous and misleading. In our church, some take for granted the treasures we have and having someone else remind us or challenge us to be better, it is actually in act of charity. Its too bad you lack the discernment to understand charity when its right in front of your eyes. You are not wrong to challenge her to return to Mother church but you may have lost some of the charity by stating that she may accost others to lose theirs when in reality she was correcting an error that needs to be corrected, in a way she did it to help out our church and faith for the better helping Siollan reflect better on his/hers views away from the faith. Wrong is wrong and right is right…no matter if someone is in or out.
YFC, why don’t you stop trying to promote your heretical views on this site? The TRUTH is the TRUTH even if it be promoted by the un-baptized. A HERESY is a HERESY even if it be promoted by a Cardinal.
Ann, You’re not qualified to have any insight at all into what I believe, and appear to have built an elaborate character profile based on a facetious comment. Moreover, you don’t have any unique claim to what is authentically Catholic. I am as Catholic as you.
You’re mistaken if you think that arch-conservatism, or a perverse obsession with demonizing gays, or adhering to a definition of faith that avoids critical inquiry by necessity gives you greater authenticity, though I can understand the temptation to frame things that way… In reality, the constant stream of homophobic stories and comments on this site represent a fringe minority, even among Catholics, and especially in California.
Siollan, I am not claiming to be anymore Catholic than you or to have any ‘special’ insight. You made an exchange with me in the past stating that you could have just as easily been another religion had your ethic heritage been different. You must have forgotten.
That is the basis for my question to you regarding your looking for a fight and why you want to fight if you do not consider yourself Catholic from belief but rather by way of heritage.
And if, as you propose, the comments regarding faithful adherence to the Catholic Faith in foregoing homosexual sex, very different from having same sex attraction, represent some sort of fringe Catholic group, then you are sadly mistaken. Even if the whole of the faithful dissented from the Truth, it wouldn’t render truth false.
It is not a numbers game, Siollan. But a matter of keeping the Faith.
Sorry, Siollan, that’s ‘ethnic’ heritage, not ethic.
Ann: I’m fairly certain if you’s been born in Yemen, you’d be a Muslim; Burma, Buddhist, Pre-Colombian Mexico, Aztec… Religion is mostly a matter of chance.
Siollan, that is precisely the point I am making to you. You seem to believe that it is just a matter of where one is born that makes one cleave to their Faith. In countries where you’d be put to death not to believe, yes, a great deal would only believe to save their skins, not love of God.
Those posters on CCD that defend Catholic Truth, however, are doing so not because of ‘what they were born to,’ but rather because they actually believe what the Faith teaches. And that is not just a fear of Hell, but rather a love of God and the continued pursuit of Truth. (Truth being reality)
If you are cleaving to your ‘Faith’ out of ethnic loyalty, that is your choice to be sure. I’d venture that those posting on CCD and the staff of CCD itself, for the most part, do not share that basis for Faith. Most folks posting on CCD believe what the Church professes because they hold that Jesus Christ is, in reality, God. He isn’t God simply because we believe it.
So if religion is (that is in reality, not just one person’s definition) just a blase matter of chance, then why would God Himself (that is Jesus Christ) send the Apostles out to be martyred in order that they spread the Good News? Doesn’t make sense. Not if one actually believes the Faith, Siollan.
Question: were you born into a Catholic family? If not, was converting a readily available option? Do you believe this circumstance to be some kind of superior birthright?
There’s a word for that: Supremacism.
IMO, that’s a very dangerous way to think. Human life is a very subjective experience. If you combine human nature with a sense of divinely sanctioned superiority, what results is pretty horrific. That kind of sentiment is one of the prime sources of brutality and bloodshed in human history.
If you look at our anthropological record as a species, religion is universal, but no one religion is… Guess I don’t believe in a God that would create us only to favor one demographic group in one period of our history. Call that relativism if you like. (the horror!)
That’s not to say there isn’t truth (or Truth) in Catholicism. It’s just a truth that’s accessible to us.
Not sure where you’re going with the idea of superior birthright, Siollan, but you have answered my question with regard to your ‘defense’ of the faith. And your motivations – not Catholic faith, but rather a lack thereof.
That said, you can attempt to level everything to the ground and rid yourself and the world of any hierarchical structure of what is better, worse, bad, doesn’t matteer, but that will not destroy Truth or change the face of God.
So in that sense, I would say in terms of Catholic, that I am not more Catholic than you per se. Rather, I would pose that you aren’t Catholic, save perhaps by baptism and cultural identity. But that has nothing whatsoever to do with me or any comparison, just what you’ve stated about yourself.
Lol. Okay. But again, you have no qualification or authority to judge the faith of others. If it feeds your ego to feel superior, or claim a greater authenticity, go ahead. I don’t really care… it’s kind of entertaining.
Lol, Silloin, I’m merely reading what you write about yourself and taking you at your word. If you don’t like your own narrative, change it. If that comes off as superior, you have ego issues you need to address on your own as nobody is forcing you to present yourself in any way whatsoever. Take responsibility for what you communicate. And it is not Catholic Faith. Much like those in authority at Notre Dame who seek the spotlight to be dimmed so as to go on with business as usual.
Ann, I hereby excommunicate you and banish you to the hinterlands, by the power vested in me as a lay Catholic.
I think you’re reading my message wrong. I’m not offended. You are entitled to your opinion about what is and who isn’t Catholic. I just don’t give it a ton of weight. It’s not authoritative. It’s your opinion. I don’t need your approval. I generally appreciate your opinion, though I mostly disagree with it.
I was just responding to the fact that you just told me I’m not a Catholic. That’s not your judgment to make.
Personally, I’ll take Notre Dame, USF, etc. over orthodox any day of the week…
There are lots of opinionated posters here. Strangely, the only one I find consistently authoritative in tone is the Anonymous that is obviously some kind of clergy person… I think mostly because that poster communicates church position over personal opinion most of the time (though not all).
Siollan, banish away. Your ‘views’ as you state them are not in adherence to that of the Catholic Faith so while you were baptized, you obviously and by your own statements, do not adhere to the Faith. No slam. Just what you’ve written. That is you don’t believe in it, but rather think there is some truth there, but that much the same could be found elsewhere. So if you will re-read what I wrote, I stated you are Catholic in the most basic sense.
Once a Catholic (baptized) always a Catholic. And no, that’s not my opinion. But just like one cannot be a little pregnant, the resulting child can be either healthy and vigorous or puny and weak or malformed or stillborn. That’s the fruit of the pregnancy. Or in this case the fruit of Faith. What you choose to bring forth is up to you. The seed is there.
So choose Notre Dame if you’d like, but they aren’t advocating the healthy diet that’s best for your baby, but rather experimental drugs intended to alleviate ‘suffering’ when they really don’t know the long term effect they’ll have. But these platitudes do make being ‘pregnant’ easier as they attempt to alleviate the cross of swollen ankles, sometimes constant nausea, and increased blood pressure. And the baby – what of it? Too far ahead to think of in the light of all that pain and suffering.
As for the hinterlands, I’m already there. No need to banish, Siollan, as I am staying as far from the influences you prefer as humanly possible. In other words: I want to keep my baby :)
The real question is why you who are opposed to the Teachings of the Church keep trying to convince those of us who defend those teachings of your sinful ways!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher, Founding Director
Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc
How about the Salem witch trials? Does that help?
No Catholics were involved in the Salem witch trials. Nevertheless, if you want to go back to who started it all, just look at what the pagan Roman Empire did to Christians if they would not worship their immoral gods and goddesses.
It’s an analogy, Anne T. Religious persecution of individuals because they don’t think what a Church tells them they should think.
How about Galileo. Wanna try that one on for size instead?
No, it is not an analogy, YFC, it is a divide and conquer routine that you and the others who push sodomy on here use, and please do not tell me you do not push sodomy as that is exactly what s0-called same-sex marriage encourages and approves whether you or anyone else denies it or not.
Right in some aspects, Anne T., and wrong in so many other ways. Civil marriage in no way makes any additional encouragement to acts you believe are sinful. Civil marriage is a legal construct that promotes mutual support and love, and unburdens the rest of society from having to support otherwise family-less individuals.
It is a very faulty analogy. No one is forcing Mr. Cassin to think anything. No one is forcing you to think anything. No one is persecuting anyone. No one is required to be Catholic, but if you have accepted the Catholic Faith, you are supposed to accept with docility what the Church teaches on faith and morals, its decisions on discipline and it means of administration.
Excuse me Anne, but I know how I intentioned my own writings. It was an analogy, as I said before. Not a sinister “divide and conquor routine”. Get off of yourself already!
You may not know of what Spirit you are, YFC. For your divide and conquer methodology is precisely that to anyone with eyes to read and an intellect to discern what you actually post.
So “get off” Anne T already for being forthcoming, something that apparently causes a great struggle for others.
YFC, as I have said before two men or two women misusing their body parts does not a marriage make. It is not love in the Judeo Christian sense of the word but just lust. That is all it is and all it will ever be. That is why all decent religions forbid it, including true Buddhism not the New Age kind, besides its being terribly damaging to the body, even when women do it at times.
Anne T is right on! Excellent comments Anne T. You are correct to admonish this YFC person.
Wow, first we have the “inquisition” tossed into the mix. Now, surprise, surprise, we have the “Salem Witch trials” brought up. — Dare to expose a heresy and all the heretic can do is cry foul!!!
Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals:
11. “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.”
13. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”
Precisely what heresy was “exposed”? I keep asking what exactly Cassin ever said at any of his talks that is heretical. Besides which, I am pretty sure that folks watching this attempt to silence this man as pretty much along the lines of a witch hunt. That you can’t grasp that redounds to you not to the ones who are, indeed, crying foul.
The heresy that is unspoken yet taught under the guise of health and well being is ‘acceptance’ of self in that one must accept who/what one is and then go forth and indulge sinful behavior. Perhaps Mr. Cassin never said as much in word, but the innuendo of ‘accepting what I am’ coupled with his vocal persona in other venues as a pro-sodomy culture advocate is the heresy, YFC. His being presented as one bullied by the Catholic Church is ingenuous in a Catholic school.
That you *WILL NOT* grasp that redounds to you, YFC, as you are very clearly an advocate of homosexual sex and attempting to change the Truth of Church teachings.
How are the Salem Witch Trials even relevant to this:
A website runs a story on a Catholic schools has a pro gay marriage activist come in to do a program for their students.
The school decides to cancel his program for this year.
The activists blames the website.
I would like to know what really happened.
A fair question:
The answer is that whatever Greg Cassin may or may not say in his 20 something year history of giving these talks has never been shown to contradict Church teaching. Burning him at the proverbial stake for something he may or may not have said is quite a bit like burning a person for practicing “witchcraft” because of what they may or may not have said or done.
At least the Salem witches had the opportunity to recant before they were set aflame.
He has not been burned at the stake. The metaphor does not work.
He was asked not to come this time. They intend on having him next year. They want him to keep coming there. He was just there in February.
He says it is because of an article on CCD. The head of the school said it was to let the controversy die down.
They did not say what exactly went down. Were parents complaining? Were they getting letters or phone calls? Did the Diocese scrutinize them? Why would they cancel him just because a website wrote an article when it does not seem that they agree with CCD. The whole thing is kind of weird.
YFC, you make the claim in your May 6, 2014 at 4:41 pm post saying; “in his (Cassin) 20 something year history of giving these talks has never been shown to contradict Church teaching.”
When you refer to “history” are you suggesting that no official historical documentation, i.e. news story, of what Cassin has said in his talks over the past 20 something years have been ever been written? If that be so, then I would be confident that you are likely correct in your assessment. Based on what we now know about the attitudes of the Staff and students at NDHS, it is doubtful that THEY would have found anything controversial to “Church teaching” in what Mr. Cassin has had to say which would be news worthy.
Maybe for the “historical” record, someone should do the research on what Mr. Cassin has said in his past 20 something years of talks. It might be quite informative what is dug up!
The “Sisters” at Notre Dame could have a heterosexual couple (each party known to be married to someone else) come in to visually demonstrate sexual relations and the couple could maintain silence the entire time, YFC. The class could be biology or “health” or self-acceptance. Perhaps the female has had a mastectomy. Okay, so the class is now, “how to be intimate with your partner post-mastectomy”. The aftermath of the event is a hug and mutual tears. How touching…. especially for a class of hormonal young women trained from the cradle to take pride in new ways instead of respecting the old.
But gee, is there another “lesson” being taught? What was ‘said?’ Not a word against Catholic teaching! Are you afraid of women with mastectomies. Are you bullying cancer survivors. Are you anti-education! Anyone who complains should be labeled a hater or a heretic for their lack of charity against this brave couple who have come to teach the children. Sniff, sniff.
Get over the notion that it’s all about what someone says, YFC, and look to the fruits of what lessons have been taught. The fruits of Notre Dame are not apples off an apple tree, but rather the odd product of experimenting dissenters who unnaturally isolate and pollinate the blossoms in their care with that which is foreign and anti-Christ. If not, they wouldn’t mind being in the spotlight.
Good God, Anonymous. You conduct a witch hunt, get the outcome you desired (suppression of a beloved speaker), and then you say the whole thing is kind of weird. Pot calling the kettle weird kind of weird.
Suppression of a “beloved” speaker. YFC, Satan himself could be classified “beloved” if the criteria were to accept oneself and sin at will because one cannot help it.
Such emotion filled nonsense.
It is not. YFC just wants to get everyone in any religion who apposes so-called same-sex “marriage” angry at each others. As I said before he uses the age-old divide and conquer routine, and he thinks we are stupid.
YFC, I take great offense at your post. I conducted no witch hunt. I did nothing to suppress a beloved speaker. I won’t be standing up for you anymore.
The Anonymous posts today, May 8, at 5: 56pm and 6:18 pm were mine.
Ann Malley wants to go into Catholic schools and “visually demonstrate sexual relations”. These are her words, not mine. Wow. I thought Catholic schools were not an appropriate place to visually demonstrate sexual relations. Maybe I’m wrong? Perhaps she wrote her piece before she had some coffee at 6:47 AM today.
Anonymous, when did you stand up for me ever in the first place? If, as you imply, you stood up for me on principle in the past, and I have now offended you (how, I know not! You showed no real place in which I did or said something that was truly offensive to you), and now you don’t stand up for me on principle, then it is your own principles that you have left behind, not me. In that case, I pity you. Either stand up on principle or stop pretending your principles have any place upon which to stand.
Tracy do you follow this thread at all?
Gregg Cassin has been disinivited for reasons that none of you can actually articulate, except for the fact that he is gay. None of you NONE of you have pointed to anything that he has said in these talks for 20 years that violates Church teaching. Not a single word.
YFC, Gregg Cassin was not disinvited because he was gay. He was not disinvited because of something he said. They did not give any reason other than ‘the controversy”? What controversy? What happened? If it was because of CCD, was it because they did not know something about him that CCD revealed? Then why is he invited back next semester? What were they so afraid of? Obviously, they knew he was gay for 20 years so that was not the problem. Maybe they did not like the school having adverse publicity on the internet? There are a lot of irate alumni and parents. If they were trying to avoid controversy, it kind of back-fired on them.
YFC, you asked if I read this thread at all?
You are correct in saying that there is no mention of Mr. Cassin having been disinvited based on something he said in previous talks. He is, however, being disinvited because of his “DOCUMENTED SUPPORT for same-sex marriage”. A Catholic school should not allow someone to speak at a Catholic retreat who so blatantly violates Church teaching. This is common sense.
Again, YFC, would you approve of me working at a Queer Bar, even if you could not demonstrate that I had ever served a tainted drink to a homosexual during my past 20 years of bar-tending? Let’s get real! Having Cassin speak at a Catholic retreat is a far weightier issue!
Tracy, no, he was not disinvited for that reason.
Read this from the Head of School.
Yes, Anonymous, Gregg Cassin was left out to dry by Notre Dame hierarchy, despite the appeasement letter you cited, because he has no place lecturing at a Catholic high school on matters of acceptance. Specifically, because he does not seem to ‘accept’ Church teaching – a lesson in which Ms. Osmond appears to take much delight.
So Ms. Osmond trying to shift the blame to others, in this case CCD and the ‘media’, is an attempt to hide the fact that she is encouraging the teaching of anti-Catholic philosophy under the guise of ‘acceptance’.
YFC know your history before you post. Salem Witch trials….aye caramba!
And perhaps it would be helpful to comprehend the name “Matamoros”, which sounds oddly Japanese, and which is translated “swashbuckler”. But it has a far more sinister origin:
Last name origin & meaning:
Spanish: from Matamoros meaning ‘killer of Moors’, a title given to Spain’s patron saint, St. James, in the Middle Ages (from matar ‘to kill’ + moros ‘Moors’). According to legend, the saint appeared to a 9th-century Spanish king during a battle, and enabled him to massacre 60,000 Saracens.
Read more on FamilyEducation: https://genealogy.familyeducation.com/surname-origin/matamoros#ixzz30tvnhowJ
Nobody cares about your silliness. We all know that you promote the MORTAL Sins of Sodomy and Contraception based upon your own posts.
KIMBERLY – No silliness, just the facts, Mam. BTW you apparently missed my posts about what constitutes a mortal sin. You might look them up, or better, look up what actually constitutes a mortal sin. You might learn something!
YFC YOU do not get to decide what is and what is not a mortal sin
Amen to that KIMBERLY! He preaches His own theologies, not what the church teaches. Anyone could do what he is doing, its been done for ages. People still choose away from God. Nothing is new here but unfortunately many follow his mentality of ideas.
Facts that bespeak nothing of the love of God, but rather love of getting away with something one knows to be sinful – sodomy, artificial birth control, aiding and abetting sexual sins. Now, let’s all darken our consciences, turn out the lights, and SEE what fun we can do because we can’t see.
We’re learning something all right!
Canisius, you are completely right! I don’t get to decide what is a mortal sin, nor have I ever claimed to! I merely ask that others refer to what the Church teaches about mortal sin. Please, stick with the conversation!
And the Moors were just innocent bystanders attempting to live in peace. Oh, that time travel were possible and those that attempt to crucify our ancestors were subject to the harsh realities of living in those times they would otherwise romanticize.
Once again, AM, don’t put words into my mouth. I never ever said that the Moors were innocent bystanders. Please try to control what comes out of your own mouth. It seems you are all too ready to condemn simple statements by others which mean nothing that you take from them.
Once again you try to distract, YFC, with your self-styled ‘faithfulness’. Your intention, much like the non-Catholic hierarchy at Notre Dame, was to tie into the notion of the ‘Poor Moor’ who had to hide who and what he was to fit into society.
You are no victim, Sir, when it comes to the Catholic Church. And you do not have to hide, but rather seek to hide under the banner of faithfulness only to stay within in an attempt to pervert.
Sorry, but those pushing a homosexual sex agenda are not promoting Catholic Faith or Truth, despite what pew they might meekly sit in on Sunday.
Ah! but that is what you implied, YFC, when you even brought up Santiago Matamoros. It was a clear intention to divide the Christians, who do not believe in so-called “same-sex marriage” from the Muslims, who do not believe in it either.
Abeca, I didn’t bring up “Santiago Matamoros”. Please check yourself and what you write.
YFC, you really do need a shot of lavender infused chai tea! Or perhaps a nap in the afternoons. Where does ‘Abeca’ bring up Santiago Matamoros?
“Please check yourself and what you write.”
YFC what are you talking about sir? You must be confusing me with someone else…“Santiago Matamoros”? I did not ask you that question nor did I address that person to you? You need to read better and check what you write and to whom!
Sorry Abeca I mistakenly attributed the Santiago Matamoros comment to you, when it was an Anonymous who wrote about him. Apologies.
Wow, YFC, you are sure digging deep now!! Matamoros?!!!!!!
And all of this because some of us on this site dare to call out a heretic when we see one. :(
Guy you are not sorry. Your apology to Abeca means nothing. Expect a law suit coming your way soon.
Abecca change your name or at least spell it differently so you can confuse the real bigots who go around discriminating against any devout Christian.
A more organized resistance might actually be what is called for, Siollan, as that way folks can see who and what they really are and believe. Those who hold the Faith and those who hold the Name. Calling oneself one thing when being another is false advertisement…or sentimentality.
That said, you’ve described yourself, if I recall correctly, as more culturally Catholic. The Faith being something you just inherited from your Irish ancestors. So what exactly motivates your desire to counter what you perceive as false. Defense of the Faith, Church teaching, Truth, love of Christ?
As for ‘engineering,’ that’s precisely what these schools have been doing for years to lead folks to construct their own idea of Catholic.
The bible uses far worse terminology – “ABOMINATION” is one example.
If they want their children to go to public schools or a private secular school they have that option.
This school is worse than a public school. At least in the public school system you know what you’re getting. Some very dear friends of mine were lamenting that their two daughters who attended the school in the late 90’s have left their faith and they see no problem with same-sex marriage. It breaks their hearts.
Parents need to investigate to find out if schools that advertise themselves as Catholic are really Catholic.
To be Catholic they must adhere 100% to the “Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition” – in words and actions.
If anyone can prove that anything was taught – by words or actions – which purposely violate the Faith – in a Catholic school,
they should press charges for fraud and sue for all tuition, books and other expenses including lawyer fees, associated with the fraudulent school.
Parents have an obligation to express their concerns to the Diocese Bishop.
A good “Catholic” school will also use the CCC as one of their required texts for grades 11 – 14.
And the Diocese has an obligation to inform parents. They should put on their website which Catholic schools teach in conformity with the Catholic Church. Requesting this will help them take responsibility and increase their oversight of the education in these schools. The page should have a comments section for each school so that if something incorrect is taught, it can be corrected. Other schools that are Catholic should be listed with the problems that students and parents have encountered there.
You make a valid points, Ned and Anonymous. Judging from parent comments, however, it would seem that many of them are very aware and endorse what is taught at these questionable ‘Catholic’ schools.
I pray the diocese will become involved and act definitely in favor of Catholic doctrine in addition to notifying parents.
Theresa O’ Brien I am sorry about your friend’s daughters. I hear that often, it really is heart breaking. How young minds are easily sold to those point of views and how cheapened their reasoning capabilities become.
Siollan, with all due respect I think the use of the word “infested” is correctly used with regards to what has happened to NDHS. Show us the proof that the school held their current heretical views from its inception on August 4, 1851.
Up until now the Catholic immune system appears to have all but failed at eradicating the heretical disease NDHS has currently been suffering from. Let’s all hope and pray that the school will now be receiving the appropriate remedy for it’s infection and will soon experience a complete recovery. As with any infection that has taken a foothold in the body, I fully expect it will be a difficult disease to erradicate.
Tomas De Torquemada pray for us..
Siollan, yes, the parents interviewed support Mr. Cassin. The abc local story is about how the alumni of the school are angered that Mr. Cassin’s talk was cancelled. So, that is who they interview. It would not be surprising if every parent supports him. The administration supports him, too. CCD’s point of view is that there is something catholically wrong at that school and this is more evidence that they are correct.
The ‘Inquisition” may have bad connotations amongst those who know little of history and/or buy into the secular revisionist lies posing as history, but for those who have read even a little Church history, they would have discovered that the whole purpose of an Inquisition since the earliest centuries was to avoid error and heresy. The Arian heresy was a huge threat to the early Church, for example, (and obviously I’m NO authority whatsoever) but I have gathered from reading painless and interesting histories from Chesterton and Belloc that there were never really any ‘good old days’ when the Church wasn’t under some sort of attack. (the protestant rebellion, the muslim heresy et al) After hundreds of years of muslim rule in Spain, it really took some doing to weed out the goats from the sheep and restore the true faith. The BBC did a really good program on the Spanish Inquisition and revealed that it was nothing like traditional English historians taught it to be, and even so, was done by the Spanish gov’t and not the Church. You’re welcome. ;o) PS They sell a barbeque apron with a guy flipping burgers on a grill that says “I’d rather be burning heretics” on NOR that you might enjoy, now that you grasp the essentials. wink wink
Many of the parents and Alumni support Cassin…..that does speak volumes on people who cannot see the difference between loving thy neighbor and “promoting” an evil. Many that I spoke with just want to keep silent, so as not to judge anyone or anything. This is not what The Church teaches, nor did Jesus……He had plenty to say to the Pharises and those who continued to walk in darkness. He loves all us sinners…..not because we sin…..but because He knows that with our eyes on Him we can change our behaviors and become more ordered in our thinking and desires. Go and sin no more. It’s called self-mastery.
So I ask AGAIN, what is it that Gregg Cassin actually says to students that is false? And besides which, shouldn’t the Church allow open dialogue, freedom of speech, and allow its own speech to stand while letting falsehoods fall of its own weight? Why are we so afraid of free speech in our Church?
YFC, you must be a science or math professor if you think truth rises and falsehoods fall of their own weight. Run that one past a colleague in the history or social science departments.
People believe what they want to believe.
In order for a person to truly be open to truth, they need to be 100% disinterested. They can have no pride, no self-interest, no other-interest. There is almost always bias. Someone can be convinced of a truth, but many falsehoods may have to be let go of first.
Because sin and error is tempting, YFC. Even if you do not hold to the Garden of Eden being a real scenario, the object lesson is that the students (Adam and Eve) were told that it was wrong. Our Lord also didn’t have angels surrounding that which is sinful saying, “Oh, poor tree. Nobody wants to eat of ‘its’ fruits. How cruel. It alone is rejected in the garden. Poor rejected tree. Why are it’s fruits proclaimed evil? But alas, the poor tree must stand alone and rejected and condemned as evil. How could God do that?! Shame on those who disapprove of the fruits of this lonely tree that only seeks to produce the fruits that ‘God’ forced it to produce.”
Would you advocate for the promotion of error in Geometry class? How about an architect who wants to do math ‘his’ way? Would you buy a building from said architect or would you ‘shun’ his methods?
So at least we are clear: AM and Anonymous do not believe in freedom of speech or any confidence in the ability of individuals to discern what is correct from what is false. Now, Ann Malley allows herself to attend Churchs not in full communion yet justifies it through some notion of having been cast out of the Church by made up animals, but don’t let free speech get in the way of schism!
Yes, YFC, I have always been clear on CCD regarding my opposition to the promotion of heresy under the guise of ‘free speech’ or ‘false ecumenism’ inside the Church. That includes the promotion of Americanism inside Holy Mother Church and the pushing of sodomy as a new good…. or at the least neutral.
You will do anything to dispel the light of Truth, YFC. Full Communion means in full communion with what the Church actually teaches, my friend. Not just the building or Bishops and priests who look the other way when it comes to upholding Truth while openly dissenting in favor of that which is politically correct.
So while you may kid yourself and attempt to corral others into believing one can renegotiate the inherent sinfulness of sodomy within the confines of Holy Mother Church, Truth will always prevail. You will fail even if you picket for the free speech rights of Satan himself to deliver the sermon on Sundays. So much for “Beloved Speakers.”
For those who read the link, please pay special note to how Father delineates the acceptance versus the rejection of homosexual unions. Young versus old. Not truth versus falsehood. This is the kind of thing that needs to be rooted out of leadership as it leads many, like those at Notre Dame, astray. Either running away from the falsehood of said teachings or embracing said falsehoods as truth.
Why do you want to paint us with that brush?
I believe in free speech.
People can discern what is correct from what is false, but you have an obligation if you know the truth, to speak it.
I really don’t know why you are trying to degrade us.
Amendment-some people can discern what is correct from what is false. Some people can discern truth in certain areas and not in others. We could go on for a long time about psychological, sociological, and emotional factors that influence how well an individual can discern truth. I’m thinking of things like
11 million killed in concentration camps; $100 wrinkle creams; 9% of Americans believe aliens had something to do with the disappearance of the missing Malaysian plane; Jonestown; politicians. I really don’t think you can make a case that for any thing that is said every person will be able to tell whether it is true or false. Some people will but not all.
I want to say up front that this is not about Mr. Cassin or homosexuality. This is about education in general. Do you realize how wrong it is for an educator or educational facility to betray student’s trust by presenting something they know is not true? We do not educate by presenting various things and letting the student figure out if what is true and what is dubious.
Actually, Anonymous, that is the basis for the ‘new’ method of teaching. That is to let the student pick their own answer as long as they can string together some reason as to how they arrived at said falsehoods. It is falsely labeled the development of critical thinking.
Fallacious reasoning is the new ‘truth’. That way everyone feels great as they all dialogue into infinitum, the end result being mutual error of ‘diverse’ flavors.
Have you ever heard the notion of critical thinking? I would hope that kids would be edumacated about how to test points of view for their veracity. Many many folks have said here that Cassin says nothing about his so called gay life, and nothing contrary to what the Church teaches. Yet you all seem to keep pretending that he is somehow sending dangerous messages, untrue messages. So what exactly are those messages, and if you don’t train people to test points of view in school, how will they ever be able to test points of view outside school? What are you all so afraid of that you can’t permit people to speak their mind, but instead you shut them down. You all must be very afraid of something, that’s all I gotta say. People who have nothing to fear are not afraid to hear all the sides of a story.
Fear of God is the beginning of Wisdom, YFC, even for the so called ‘educated’ critical thinkers.
So while you’re not afraid to dance with the Devil and have a hoot doing as much, please don’t deride those that actually listen to the word of God and take Him at His word an lieu of yours.
ooops. That should read ‘in’ lieu of yours, YFC. Don’t want to tempt your dictionary demon. You might stomp me with a Merriam-Webster like some anti-free spelling goon. And then where would be the love?
A Diocese Bishop has the responsibility for everything “Catholic” within his Diocese per Code of Canon Law. He can revoke a school or university’s right to use the name “Catholic” if they remain obstinate against Church teaching.
For the archdiocese of San Francisco, contact: Maureen Huntington, superintendent of Catholic Schools; Laura Held, assistant superintendent, Faith Formation and Religious Instruction;
Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone;
all at the archdiocese of San Francisco, One Peter Yorke Way, San Francisco CA 94109.
Message from Archbishop’s Cordileone office…..The AB has been away, but returns this week. His office is well aware of the issues and how it has escalated. I was given to believe that the AB will handle all in due time.
Are the SND Nuns members of the LCWR – the radical and heretical group “Leadership Conference of Women Religious ?
The LCWR is in trouble again. This is the latest public communication to them dated 4/30/14. It is slow coming up on the internet (so be patient).
Personally I wish that the Vatican would disband them. There is no need for a union-like group of power hungry Nuns. – This is not the Church that Christ established.
They could well be members.
From the Sisters of Notre Dame’s Website:
Homosexual “literature” anyone?
Reading these posts, looking at the evidence and listening to the alumnae, it appears they are promoting homosexuality, not practicing Catholicism.
OMG ! (- intended to be a prayer)
They do promote homosexuality by the books they sell on their web site.
These Nuns are sexual perverts ! ! !
This should be reported asap to :
Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone;
One Peter Yorke Way, San Francisco CA 94109.
Be sure to print off the appropriate pages from their web site, and include them in letters to the Abp.
Ned you do the same please.
It’s been reported time and again
good, we need to persevere, if they don’t listen then its on them not on us.
“What made Notre Dame Belmont unique is that their understanding of Catholicism was a lot more lax than many other Catholic institutions…”
“I would say that a big obstacle to my own coming out was being Catholic and knowing that in the Church’s eyes, I was somehow less than ideal. But on the other hand, going to NDB taught me that there are some things that transcend the doctrine of the Church, like being reasonable human beings and putting love and acceptance first. Notre Dame played a huge role in helping me accept myself, and reconcile being gay and Catholic. There’s still a lot that I don’t agree with regarding the Church; but I do know that if more Catholics learned to think and accept as NDB taught us to, we’d all be better off”
So, as in another article, CCD discovered the tip of the iceberg. When alumni from the schools defend their schools, we learn that it is as bad or worse then we feared.
From Negotiating Modernity with the Catholic Church-BlogSpot of an alumni of Notre Dame High School
Anonymous, so NDB, taught you that SOME things TRANSCEND Catholic doctrine, like being “reasonable human beings”…….. You credit NCB as removing the obstacle to your “coming out”. In other words it appears that we can credit NCB for helping you exit the Catholic Church. This is so very sad. Hopefully, now that the Bishop is aware of the heretical teaching at NDB, other souls will be saved from the same destructive teaching which harmed you. Anonymous, please pray to the Sacred Heart of Jesus and to our Blessed Lady for the grace to reject sin and to seek reconciliation so that you may return to safe pastures.
correction: I see that Anonymous quoted that statement from another source. Anyway, it appears that he sides with the author of that piece.
No I don’t.
But I did mix up my own point with the quotations.
“So, as in another article, CCD discovered the tip of the iceberg. When alumni from the schools defend their schools, we learn that it is as bad or worse then we feared.” What we fear-that Catholic Schools are not teaching the Truths of the Catholic Faith.
I did not post the blogsite’s name because it is offensive. That probably added to the confusion as well.
My point in posting this is to show CCD readers that the school is probably and purposefully not in conformity with the Church.
Now that is something you got very right.
If NGD did not teach you that homosexual ACTS are Mortal Sins, then they did not do their job.
(Same sex attraction is merely a temptation.)
See: CCC #2357, 2358, 2359 & 2396.
The Church does not pick on homosexuals. All sexual activity except between a married man and his wife is a mortal sin.
Fornication and adultery are Mortal Sins.
All single persons are called to chastity.
This is required if you want to get to Heaven.
Teens are being pressured into deciding whether they are gay or straight at increasingly early ages.
Teens are being pressured into experimenting with partners of both sexes.
This is highly damaging and schools need to be in the forefront of educating teens on the necessity of chastity and abstinence.
Many teens want to be older than they are and they end up making mistakes that alter their life path because teenagers have the judgment of teenagers.
Some adults have the judgment of teenagers. Teachers should notice students who are going down the wrong road and help them, not expose them to more confusing material.
Anonymous writes: “…Many teens want to be older than they are and they end up making mistakes that alter their life path because teenagers have the judgment of teenagers.”
Very well said, Anonymous. And very clever of those who seek to ‘change’ truth as pandering to the youthful desire to want to be older than they are hooks a great many into life damaging situations.
‘Sunlight is the best disinfectant.’ — Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis. Good job, Cal Catholic
First of all: Kudos to Caifornia Catholic Daily. We all need to contribute here as its strength to push back against the homosexual sexual evil is being felt. Second: what is the Head of School Osmond thinking? Mr. Cassin should never be permitted to speak to any Catholic high school, except in a formally organized debate (which might not be a bad idea). You are entirely wrong to virtually invite Mr. Cassin to maintain a relationship with your school. He is an advocate for moral evil, things that you should be teaching your students to avoid at all costs. Third: this is an important teaching moment, for the school and for the diocese. Abp. Cordileone certainly has authority to require that no such openly homosexual speaker be permitted to proselytize in Catholic high schools within his district. If administrators, teachers, etc. do not like it, then leave. If parents and students do not like it, then leave, and close down the school, if necessary. The scandal that the “wink-wink” approach taken in CA to homosexual activism must stop. Fourth: “Siollan” your viewpoint is heretical. Of course parents are overwhelmingly supportive; they and their children have not been taught anything about the Church and its beliefs. The absence of faith among Catholic youth is a major tragedy. Homosexuals and their supporters have had a clear run at the most impressionable of Catholics for decades now. Those within the Church, including lay teachers and administrators, that refuse to teach the Faith in Catholic schools, and require adherence in their private lives, must be sacked.
I can’t believe there are people that actually BELIEVE that an avowed Homosexual should be in any way teaching or giving retreats at a ‘Catholic’ school! Teachers and retreat leaders need to be in ‘full communion’ with the Church’s teaching on abortion, contraception and homosexuality…..otherwise; why send your daughter to such a school, she can get A secular, non-religious education in public schools!!! CATHOLIC SCHOOLS MUST BE CATHOLIC, PERIOD.
NOTRE DAME apparently you have not read Ex Corde Eccleslae. This is Church teaching that states there are certain norms for the identity and mission of Catholic schools. Check it out!!!
Sorry, but the alumnae can react as strongly as they like. Catholic teaching and doctrine is not up for the popular vote.
Code of Canon Law requires that:
” 803 §2. The instruction and education in a Catholic school must be grounded in the principles of Catholic doctrine; teachers are to be outstanding in correct doctrine and integrity of life. ”
I think Cassin has excluded himself.
I am glad this man was dis-invited. However, I cannot believe that a school that was authentically Catholic would have invited him in the first place.
He’s not dis-invited. Read the article.
“I want him to continue to speak at Notre Dame.” Osmond said.
With the help of the Holy Spirit and the Arichbishop, hopefully Ms. Osmond won’t be around next year. Time to clean house on this scandal–at this Catholic school and all the others.
We can thank the Holy Spirit for motivating Ms. Osmond to speak the truth regarding her intention to bring back an anti-Catholic speaker once the spotlight is turned off. That was a God-send for which Ms. Osmond is likely kicking herself. She could have easily pretended docility and ignorance only to bring back said speaker when the heat was off.
But CCD won’t turn off the heat, I’m certain.
Of course it was a tactical stunt. Mr Cassin wants to play the victim and make the Church look like the bully. It’s a well-known ploy.
You are exactly right, then they will call those in any religion who are against same-sex “marriage” terrorists. They will lump those of us who speak out against such “marriages” in with those who plant bombs. It has happened so many times it is predictable. It is almost laughable, but in the end they will not get away with it. Good people are not that stupid, and the truly evil end up destroying themselves.
Anne, so I’m just trying to understand here. You say “It has happened so many times it is predictable”. Where and when, exactly, have those of you who speak out against same sex marriages been called terrorists, have been accused of planting bombs, have been called terrorists. Where exactly is that? And the “ploy” that you were responding to, what exactly is that “ploy”? He was invited to speak, then CCD went after him, he was disinvited, and he has been silent. So what exactly is the ploy at play? You got what you wanted, a disinvited speaker. What ploy? seriously, I see no ploy for you to then escalate into a claim of terrorism or planting bombs. It just doesn’t make any sense what you accuse, there is no there there!
Wait a minute. Cassin didn’t institute his on dis-invitation, Cal-Catholic Daily did!!! You are now saying he orchestrated his own dis-invitation to claim his victimhood. What a load of utter bull!!
Cal Catholic merely shone a light on what Notre Dame was up to. If it was wholly Catholic and good, then school leadership should have embraced the light. THEY did not. They knew and know that they are incorrect in what they are doing which is why they do not want the diocese to be alerted. Which is why they bagged Mr. Cassin so as not to get into trouble, but fully intend to invite him next year when the heat is off. (Talk about being used.)
If anything, I’d blame the disingenuous sisters at Notre Dame for setting Gregg Cassin up. I say, put up or shut up sisters at Notre Dame. Be Brides of Christ or seekers of some other guy who doesn’t go around getting crucified. But middle of the roading helps nobody, least of all Gregg Cassin who, in reality, is only a side note to the rot in this religious order.
The counseling department on the school’s website is interesting. There you’ll find LITTLE BLACK BOOK OF TEEN RESOURCES – Read it and weep!!!!! There are ‘clinics’ listed you wouldn’t want your daughter to go anywhere near – PLANNED PARENTHOOD FOR ONE!! (and don’t forget, we live in a state where parental consent is not required for a minor to seek an abortion) and a whole plethora of homosexual organizations. IS THAT CASSIN’S INFLUENCE?? NOT PROMOTING HOMOSEXUALITY, THE STUDENTS SAY!! IT IS TRULY DISGUSTING THAT A SCHOOL DEVOTED TO OUR LADY IS PUSHING THIS FILTH.
Please pray and fast for this school and all the schools mentioned in these articles that they will turn to Our Loving Savior with sincere repentance, seek his forgiveness for spreading error and live once again in His Truth.
Aagh! Found this on their website too, under student resources: http://www.lyric.org
800-246-PRIDE or 800-246-7743
LYRIC (Lavendar Youth Recreation and Information Center) http://www.lyric.org
Free and anonymous hotline provides peer support, health and sexuality information and referrals.
IS THIS IN LINE WITH CHURCH TEACHING?? Someone MUST be accountable for all this! Please for the love of God contact the Archbishop.
This must stop. Our youth are being corrupted. No wonder Cassin says a greater majority of Catholics are in support of gay rights and LGBT equality (like they don’t have rights or equality, yeh right). I think we know where these ‘katholics’ are coming from.
Thank you, Theresa for your accurate research.
The Nuns own web page speaks for itself. Truly the work of the devil.
People must immediately copy all anti-Catholic pages and send them directly to the Archbishop.
What does LYRIC have anything to do with this? Do you think you can just find any website you want and add it randomly into the conversation? Gee, let me add a website for folks into nudism and add that to the conversation? How about a website about people who think parsley is the food of the Gods? How about a website about a website glorifying people who never clean their toilets. Let’s just throw everything into the mix and pretend that this has anything to do with Notre Dame???
You really nailed it, Theresa.
If I may add, “The Little Black Book of Teen Resources” is the ONLY resource offered on Notre Dame High School’s “Personal Counseling” homepage, and also the ONLY resource offered when you click on the “Community” tab on the “Personal Counseling” homepage.
The very first sentence in the introduction of “The Little Black Book of Teen Resources” reads: “We at Dimensions clinic are proud to present the “Little Black Book 2,” a comprehensive youth resource guide for the Bay area, with special emphasis on agencies serving the needs of the LgBTQiQ (Lesbian, gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, intersex and Questioning) communities.”
“Infestation” is starting to sound pretty accurate….
I’d say “festering”.
For anyone interested, here’s a great website for those suffering SSA. The guy is a faithful Catholic and a BEAUTIFUL SOUL.
How odd that Osmond should find a factual piece of reporting “controversial” yet, see no such controversy in inviting a (presumably paid) LGBT rights activist for same-sex marriage to “teach” girls in their sex education class.
Do you happen to know that the Church endorses freedom of speech? How odd that it should suppress such freedoms, after coming out in favor of them. Hmmm. Makes one wonder.
I believe this publication is offering, in charity, a little fraternal correction to our sister in Christ, Ms. Osmond. It seems she is not listening.
YFC, if you want to belong to another Church, or no Church at all, – Goodbye.
You clearly are not Catholic at your own choosing.
Andrew, I am not catholic, you think, because I support the freedom of speech? Because I think that true speech stands on its own and that falsehoods fall by their own weight? And THAT makes me not catholic?
Man is not capable of discerning Truth without Divine Revelation. The teachings of the Catholic Church are Truth. Those who do not know or accept them are left vulnerable to falsehood. Then they teach others this falsehood believing it to be true.
YFC, do you also endorse “Thought Police”? I can’t help but notice that many conservative groups and individuals are being harassed these days by governmental agencies as well as news agencies for speaking freely! Is this a “Matamoros”?!!!!
Here you have CCD doing an investigative report on heretical views being promoted in one of our “fellow” Catholic institutions and you cry foul! :(
Where do you get that crock of nonsense from?
“Man is not capable of discerning Truth without Divine Revelation. The teachings of the Catholic Church are Truth. Those who do not know or accept them are left vulnerable to falsehood. Then they teach others this falsehood believing it to be true.”
Why would a god create a being incapable of discerning truth on his own? And if man is so incapable of discerning truth, as you say, then how could he ever appeal to “natural law”? If Christ became incarnate, and one clings to him, how can they ever live in this vulnerable falsehood in which “others” teach?
Why would a god create a being incapable of discerning truth on his own? There is only one God. I’m sure you know the story of the Fall of Man, when man was tempted by the falsehoods of the devil. Man had Divine Revelation and ignored it. Thus the fall. Man is utterly dependent on God. He does nothing on his own, except sin.
And if Man is so incapable of discerning truth, as you say, then how could he ever appeal to “natural law”? Man is not incapable of discerning truth. God assists man in this. Man can perceive the Creator from His created works. By natural law, do you mean that man and woman together in a unique manner, reproduce? Yes, that is observable from nature.
If Christ became incarnate, and one clings to him, how can they ever live in this vulnerable falsehood in which “others” teach? The Son of God became incarnate. He is Jesus Christ. One could not know of this without Divine Revelation. One should cling to Him and then one is not vulnerable to falsehood. His Word is in Scripture. It is infallible. Likewise, he established the Holy Catholic Church to preserve His Truth. When you do not know the Church, you become vulnerable to falsehood. It is only with the Church, that one can be sure that one has the Truth. When you doubt the Church, you make yourself vulnerable to falsehood. By clinging to the Church, you cling to Christ. The Church is His Mystical Body. He is it’s Head. The Pope is the Vicar of Christ. You can always trust the Church. You can always trust the Pope.
Where this comes from: Scripture and CCC.
Tracy it is really difficult for people of limited intelligence such as myself to follow your arguments and the questions you pose to me. But let me try to sort through it all.
YFC, do you also endorse “Thought Police”? I can’t help but notice that many conservative groups and individuals are being harassed these days by governmental agencies as well as news agencies for speaking freely! Is this a “Matamoros”?!!!!”
Um, no I don’t endorse “thought police”. How or where you ever thought I would just portrays how imaginative your mind really is. And where you get the idea that conservative groups and individuals are being “harassed” these days by governmental agencies as well as news agencies…yet another accusation without any evidence shown to support it. Where is there a single case of a governmental agency going after a conservative group for the content of their speech? Where?
Here you have CCD doing an investigative report on heretical views being promoted in one of our “fellow” Catholic institutions and you cry foul! :(
Your feigned humility as to your capacity to understand negates your previous position, YFC, that individuals should be treated with respect as to being able to discern that which is right.
Which is it, YFC? Are you a fellow Catholic? A faithful Catholic? Are you ‘intelligent’ enough to discern truth from lies if you cannot even comprehend the logic behind Tracy’s posts? Do you believe in free speech and the individuals capability to discern?
Good grief, YFC. If Tracy can trip you up due to your seeming limited intelligence, how much more will the Devil run circles around your supposed ‘intelligence’ in using you as a tool to have fun while leading countless souls to Hell. Whether you believe it or not, whether you find the speaker ‘beloved’ or not, won’t make one bit of difference.
YFC, try the IRS going after conservative groups like the Tea Party as well as Pro-life organizations etc. Try the CEO of FireFox being harassed by the News Media for donating 1000 dollars years ago for the Yes on Prop 8 campaign when Obama, during the same period of time, said he was opposed to the same sex marriage.
Your Fellow Catholic, I hope you were not misled into joining the Catholic Church. It is wrong to mislead people. People are free to reject the truth but no one should be dishonest about what the Church teaches. Sometimes, if one is uncomfortable with the teachings of the Church, it will be ignored and not taught. I hope no one told you something false or hid the truth from you. That would be a grave injustice.
again it looks like we have several anony’s posting…..more confusion. Anonymous I suggest that you use a name because it doesn’t help to go anony.
I will never get why there are a few who continue to go by anonymous when the anonymous name, in this case of blogging, only causes more confusion and loses its creditability to be taken seriously. It just feels like someone is playing a sick game. Just saying…..
YFC, I happen to know that God himself promotes free will. The Church left to us by Jesus Christ has been given the authority to excommunicate those who insist on teaching HERESY! HERETICS are not free to spread their vial teachings within Holy Mother Church.
Well, Tracy, you have certainly said enough heretical things on this blog, so, I hope you think more about that before spreading your “vial” teachings within HMC.
What heresy would that be, YFC? Tracy’s adherence to the observable reality that even a soft pedal promotion of homosexual sex and homosexual marriage is un-Catholic? (soft pedal in that this homosexual activist speaker may not speak against Church teachings with his mouth, but by the intimation that people are bullied because of Church teachings, gives an even louder witness.)
Perhaps you should stick to correcting people’s spelling instead of correcting Catholics who actually know and believe what the Church teaches.
Ugh, oh, that should be soft peddle as in selling. In this case, the selling of the homosexual activist agenda under the auspices of health and anti-bullying at schools purported to be Catholic.
Best get that out there or else the spelling bullies will be out in droves…. the only solution is to get rid of that nasty, horrific, hate-spewing, bigoted dictionary. Perhaps I can go on tour of grammar school across the country and lament my inability to spell and tell my stories of woe about how grammarians and those rigid minded spelling bigots have made my life a living Hell. No doubt there are students there, similarly frowned upon for their lack of spelling prowess, who will take comfort in knowing that spelling and clarity are unimportant.
That will really help students a great deal!
Ann Malley. Catholic much? You attend schismatic churches therefor you disinherited any notion that you can speak for the Catholic faith. just saying.
YFC you automatically excommunicated yourself by your homosexual activism, going against the Natural law even knowingly because you have been told, its not like you are ignorant of these truths, so you no longer have an excuse, you preach here…so don’t judge Ann. Also your attack on Tracy is dead wrong. She is not preaching heresies, so don’t lie there buddy.
YFC, even a blind man could see that you are promoting heresy and heretical views ‘within’ the Church while supposedly claiming to be a loyal son. You may want to study up on what the Church actually teaches and get the courage required to step up to the bar – let your yes mean yes and your no mean no.
Either way, your attempt to give Holy Mother Church a sex change isn’t going to work no matter how much lobbying, smearing, and/or faux sobbing you do as to how mean She is to her children.
Actually YFC I wouldn’t be surprised if you weren’t Catholic at all, it could be just a ploy plot for your gay activism work! And if you were Catholic, then you have automatically excommunicated yourself and you have no right to judge anyone else here of their intentions towards the faith!
YFC, one more point. Do you happen to know that Universities and Colleges endorse “freedom of speech”? How is that working out for those with a conservative viewpoint these days? Not very well. :(
Well, Tracy, I don’t know. Perhaps you should ask Mark Regenerus who at the University of Texas Austin is allowed to spew all kinds of debunked conservative falsehoods. I support the freedom of speech for everyone, including “vial” conservatives. Even Fred Phelps. In fact, Fred Phelps’ anti-gay speech was so vile that he turned many many people over to the pro-gay side. So keep spewing your anti-gay speech. With each and every one of your vile posts, and those of your friends like McDermott, and Jurgensen, you show the world what it means to be “Catholic”. Unfortunately for those of us concerned with the Gospel, by your fruits they will know you!
And since you love to share with us definitions, I thought I’d offer you one:
a small container, typically cylindrical and made of glass, used especially for holding liquid medicines.
Martin Luther, John Calvin, et al, believed in free speech, as well. At least they were honest enough to know that they would have to start their own religions since there was no changing the Church since it has taught the same truth since its inception. (and don’t use the need for reform excuse…one of the first things Luther did was eliminate books from the Bible, and he wanted to drop James and Revelations, as well!!) When I converted there was still some hesitation on accepting some of the teachings, but I knew that if I became Catholic I would have to accept them or I wasn’t to convert at all. I took the big leap and looking back, found that every doubt I had has been proven groundless and can fully and with confidence accept every thing in the CCC. Every Easter when we re-confirm our baptismal promises we also proclaim our faithfulness to the Church. What I do not understand is why anyone would want to stay in a Church that he or she consistently disagrees with or lives in complete contradiction with Church teachings. It is staggering hypocrisy and/or delusion. I speak not just of those who would deny that homosexual acts are sinful, but those like pelosi who say abortion is ‘sacred ground’, the kennedys that give such a false view of Catholicism. The honorable thing would be to ask oneself what one truly believes and if one is living a lie. Why do these people persist when everything they say and do proves their utter disregard for the faith? Why do they not go where they can stop living a double life?
Well Gosh and Wow – Houda Thunk It, a Catholic Institution acting in accord with Actual Catholic Teaching… Do you think it could be catching on, in the Church at least? I certainly hope so.
BTW The Local ABC TV Affiliate actually ran a short piece on air – the day Homosexualist Icon / ‘in-human-rights’ commissioner’ Larry Brinkin was sentenced (6 months & lifetime Sex Offender registry) for his central role in a Racist Toddler Rape-Porn Ring.
ABC actually ran the story (Just once), with a brief interview with Kathy Baxter of the SF Child Abuse Prevention Center, who was quoted on air about the immorality of Brinkin keeping his city pension because trafficking in Racist Toddler Rape Porn didn’t qualify as “Moral Turpitude” – at least in Sodom by the Sea.
But then the Brinkin story ‘disappeared’ from the media, and apparently can’t be found in the ABC Archives anymore. Still, ABC ran one story about Brinkin, which was one more than the rest of the lamesteam media – combined. Whaddya Bet this story gets more coverage?
Note how supporting Proposition 8 & thus promoting Normal Traditional Marriage (Or ‘Anti-Happy’ marriage as the Gaystapo describes it) gets one in to trouble and associated with all sorts of Categories of Un-Good Types – as does the Rong (as opposed to Right) forms of Racism
The Difference in Treatment by the ‘media’ of the Racist Behavior of Larry Brinkin (who Frisco named a whole week in ‘honor’ of)
– and a Basketball Team Owner whose own racial slurs are lightweight compared to Brinkin’s Racist Celebration of Toddler Rape-Porn…
– shows how far the bought and paid for ‘free press’ will go to Censor stories of Racism – if the Wrong Racist is exposed.
SEE San Francisco’s Gay Icon Larry Brinkin Guilty of Felony Child Porn Possession: https://cnsnews.com/node/757449
Yes, I agree, We should rerun the Brinkin story every single night. Every single night. Just like you do here on CCD. Because every time we report it, there must be something newsworthy about it, whether or not there is something newsworthy to offer tonight!
Go to the paper of record for the LGBT community in San Francisco, the Bay Area Reporter, and do a search on their articles on “brinkin”, you will find exactly what I have found: That you are completely in error that there has been a coverup of the Brinkin case among the press, in THIS case, the LGBT press. Please stop spewing lies about what gets covered.
Amazing the people who post here claiming to be Catholics and then go on and on advocating sodomy and masturbation. Are there any other sins that they will be promoting.
Congratulations California Catholic Daily on your far reaching influence. Glad to be a supporter.
As for Community Activist Gregg Cassin I a sorry to learn he is positive for AIDS. Perhaps there is a lesson there for the nun’s Notre Dame High School students. Mr. Cassin provides a teachable moment for sex hygiene education classes – avoid infection from bisexuals. These Nuns must have a chip on their shoulder in order to promote lesbian, bisexual and transgender perversions in addition to gaiety. Gays catch lots of sexually transmitted sexual diseases such as syphilis, anal warts, Ghonorrea and herpes.
We sent our daughter to Notre Dame Academy in West Los Angeles and there the chip on their shoulder seemed to be female ordination. It is always something.
Do those who come onto this Catholic site and encourage the practice of sodomy, including in so-called same-sex marriage, or anal sex among heterosexuals and call those of us who do not encourage it mean spirited know what they are encouraging to their so-called friends? Would a “friend” tell you that it is all right to encage in a behavior that puts one at high risk for rectal and colon cancer and anorectic disease which causes chronic constipation, and that is just the “tip of the ice berg” of injuries and disease that come from homosexual sex or sodomy. If you do not believe me, look up Anal and Colon on the website of The American Society of Colon and Rectal Surgeons. As for me, I think a true friend would discourage such behavior and NOT give ones approval to such actions.
Correction: look up Anal and Colon Cancer on that website.
Anne T – Your post gets to the heart of the ‘Happy’ Scam – Avoidance of the Facts about the Behaviors being pushed, and reliance on mau mauing the ‘Vanilla’ (clueless voters) with a mixture of pity ploys and harsh denunciation of ‘Ism-Obia’ of those who are ‘intolerant of love’.
The US CDC (Center for Disease Control) has long been a reliable source of real world information about Homo-Anal Behaviors, although the method of ‘Heterosexual’ transmission to many Women by Men ‘On the Down Low’ often gets a pass. Yet Aids in Africa is often portrayed as ‘Heterosexual’ when in fact it is Rectal Transmission that remains the primary method of spread.
As for Juergensen and the 2% – 33% claim, I think that you need to distinguish between Pedophilia & Ephebophilia – as the later (targeting Adolescent Boys) is the main source of the Catholic Church scandal – and that is a Homosex tradition, particularly in Hollywerid where the latest X-Men scandal is playing out:
Left’s push for adult-child sex By J. Matt Barber
” (In the “LGBT” vernacular “twinks,” also called “chicken,” are highly sought-after underage boys used for sex by adult “gay” men.)
In a shocking coincidence, Matt Barber’s piece here uses the same Family Research Council meta-study that Juergensen references endlessly. It’s as if there’s no other source for disparaging “official” data. (because there isn’t, with the exception of Paul Cameron, who works for the Family Research Institute).
The study obliquely cited is from a Minnesota prison. A single study with a test group of 229. The sample size is too small to be quoting definitive statistics. There are also some issues with methodology. The study neglects to mention how the information about sexual orientation was even collected. But if you can replicate it, and control for possible mitigating factors in further studies… you might be on to something.
Not sure what Bryan Singer has to do with anything, but if he’s somehow representative of gays, then Roman Polanski, Silvio Berlusconi, Woody Allen, Doug Hutchinson, Errol Flynn, Dave Coulier, Jerry Lee Lewis, Bill Clinton, and R. Kelly are equally representative of heterosexuals, correct?
The culprit there is not sexual orientation, it’s maleness. Hollywood has a history of similar stories (victimizing young men and women) dating to its early days. And you need only to look at the number of men in power with 30+ year age gaps in their relationships to see a consistent theme across sexual orientation boundaries.
There is nothing to distinguish. 2% of the population is homosexual and 33% of child sex abusers are homosexual. Which means homosexuals are 16.5 times (1,650%) more likely to sexually abuse children than are heterosexuals. Whether the boy is 2 or 8 or 12 or 17 doesn’t matter – he’s sexually abused by a sodomite.
And, this statistic played out before our very eyes in the Church sex abuse scandal. While only 1% to 2% of priests were accused of sexually abusing children, almost 90% of the accused priests were accused of abusing BOYS, i.e., they were HOMOSEXUALS. So in the Church sex abuse scandal it wasn’t 2% – 33%; it was more like 2% – 90%!
Read “Making Gay Okay”, How Rationalizing Homosexual Behavior Is Changing Everything”, by Robert R. Reilly. Very in depth piece on natural law theory and the radical changes now being instituted within our culture. You know you can rationalize anything to your own truth…..God’s truth, which is absolute, is by reason.
Don’t be un reason able.
People cannot choose their sexual orientation, and sexual orientation does not purport to claim any humanitarian condition that is either sinful or a choice. We are who we are.
SandraD is obviously indicating that the behaviors (that is the actions of homosexual sex) are sinful, YFC. Your casual dismissal is disturbing for a ‘fellow Catholic’. Or would you propose we sinners stand shrugging at the foot of the Cross and say to Our Lady, “We are who we are,” while Her only Son is crucified for our sinful actions.
Translation: Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth. For while God is all merciful and generous in the extreme, He is not stupid and will not be mocked.
Remember, studies show that sodomites, who are only 2% of the population, make up 33% of all child sex abusers (https://tinyurl.com/m8xv7fd). For instance, just a few of the 76 external academic sources cited by the Family Research Council in that linked article:
* A study of 457 male sex offenders against children in Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy found that “approximately one-third of these sexual offenders directed their sexual activity against males.” [7 ~ Kurt Freund, et al., “Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality,” Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy 10 (1984): 197. “The proportional prevalence of offenders against male children in this group of 457 offenders against children was 36 percent.” See also, Kurt Freund, et al., “Heterosexuality, Homosexuality, and Erotic Age Preference,” “Approximately one-third of these individuals had victimized boys and two-thirds had victimized girls. This finding is consistent with the proportions reported in two earlier studies,” p. 107.]
* The Archives of Sexual Behavior also noted that homosexual pedophiles are significantly over-represented in child sex offence cases: “The best epidemiological evidence indicates that only 2 to 4 percent of men attracted to adults prefer men (ACSF Investigators, 1992; Billy et al.,1993; Fay et al.,1989; Johnson et al.,1992); in contrast, around 25 to 40 percent of men attracted to children prefer boys (Blanchard et al.,1999; Gebhard et al.,1965; Mohr et al.,1964). Thus, the rate of homosexual attraction is 6 to 20 times higher among pedophiles.” [18 ~ Ray Blanchard, et al., “Fraternal Birth Order and Sexual Orientation in Pedophiles,” Archives of Sexual Behavior 29 (2000): 464.]
Do not be fooled. These “marital” and other “rights” being sought by the sodomites are mere stepping stones in their march toward their ultimate goal: “equal rights” to the boys of others.
Repeat a lie often enough, you apparently believe it yourself. But it’s still a lie.
Siollan depends on what eye’s you look through. What makes you think that you are not the one repeating lies. Your resources could be the very ones who deceive. During Moses era, he tried to show the people God’s hand in all, but as we can see the King also had his “own” resources/tricks to discredit God. Nothing has changed has it Mr. Siollan. You are just the same character trying to discredit the truth as well with your own man made resources. But it doesn’t matter, sin is still sin. If we are against sin, then we don’t need all those facts because we would want to avoid sin like the plague that it is.
St Patrick pray for us.
Abeca Christian – The “studies” have been thoroughly debunked. One of the things that has happenned in the last few years is that all kinds of studies about gay people and what they do and how they parent have actually made it into legal arguments both on the pro-gay side and the anti-gay side. And time after time, the anti-gay “studies” authors either don’t show up to defend their work, or the person who wrote the work speaks out about how the anti-gay side has misunderstood the work, or the methodology has been totally and completely eviscerated. See, for example, the recent trial and judicial opinion eviscerating the famous Regnerus study. Regnerus, the court found, had basically delivered what his anti-gay funders asked him to deliver, and his results do not come close to proving what he says they prove.
These judges saying these things are often conservative judges. Republican judges, appointed by Republican Presidents. Reagan appointees, Bush I appointees, Bush II appointees. Don’t take my word for it, take the word of those conservatives who find the anti-gay “studies” to be utter hogwash.
Debunked by whom is the question, YFC. Go to any criminal trial and you’ll see ‘experts’ on both sides. God’s law isn’t up to scientific debate, however, as we are limited creatures – even Scientists – as to what we understand. (That’s why ‘theories’ come and ‘theories’ go bye bye)
Such academic arrogance would be humorous in the extreme if it didn’t attempt, with every successive generation, to set itself up as the ‘new and improved god.’ But history does repeat itself. Must be why there is such a push to repress it or rewrite it.
Abeca, sorry but it doesn’t work that way. Scientific research is concerned with uncovering object truth, not the dogmatic variety. If the two are in apparent conflict, then fabricating invalid scientific-looking data and attempting to present it as valid for the purposes of demagoguery might be a successful tactic, but is one that needs dispelling.
The FRC (and Juergensen, knowingly or not) are attempting to present lies as objective fact. How can that possibly fit into any framework of morality worth considering?
‘Scientific’ research in the purest sense should be concerned with finding truth, but more often like everything else, becomes tainted in following a paycheck. Much like believing Catholics should be pursuing that which is pleasing to God, but are too often lulled into choosing that which feels better for them, leaving off sacrifice in lieu of can’t-help-it.
Again, your position is treating the Catholic Faith as just an ideology, Siollan, and not as that which is based on the words of God.
And that is just what the sisters and staff are doing at Notre Dame! REPEATING A LIE!!
“Your Fellow Catholic”: Your comment is subversive. Freedom of Speech has nothing to do with Mr. Cassin, or any LGBT sexual rights advocate, and their “right” to speak at a Catholic institution. Further, students have no “right” to listen to such immoral garbage, and should be protected from it. It is likely not possible to reach you with any Catholic argument, but these views — except for debate purposes, or, if Mr. Cassin is like St. Augustine, to publicly come to the school and profess the evil of his past homosexual sexual deeds and to warn the teens to avoid them — are worth nothing to growing, and maturing, Catholics. Catholic schools should be about forming children into better Catholic young adults, before Lucifer’s world has a good crack at them. Instead, Catholic schools are being inundated by the perverted, to mask the truth of the Faith and defeat the purpose of Catholic education. Satan, although hating Mankind passionately, is not a fool; he knows the value of young minds and the seduction of sin.
He’s a pied piper for sodomy, not a Catholic.
Well, you are right in a way, St. Christopher, at least when you say that free speech is subversive. That is exactly why totalitarian regimes do everything they can to avoid it. Control the twitter, block the facebook, make blogs suddenly disappear, prevent people from deciding for themselves which side of the debate is right or wrong. I’m quite sure the leader of North Korea feels that his people have no right to hear the immoral garbage of his opponents, and that is how he can justify stifling freedom of speech.
Did you hear the Gospel on Sunday? When Jesus walked with them on the road to Emmaus, their hearts burned within them as he broke open the truth of the Scriptures that referred to him. The truth makes our hearts burn, St. Christohper, so there is no need for fearing free speech.
“Your Fellow Catholic”: Cassin, and you, argue for the right to teach innocent children about sexual perversity in the hopes that they will try it. This is not “free speech,” as you fully know, although a good number of Catholic school administrators and teachers will gladly agree with you, which is the tragedy.
Please see the posts above with the links provided by Theresa O’Brien.
Copy them immediately and send them to the Abp. – before the so-called “Sisters” can remove the trash from their web site.
The more letters the Abp gets the better.
This influence by these Sisters of Notre Dame is truly evil upon young minds.
These Nuns are not Catholic (even if they were baptized at some time in their lives.)
Just another cal-cath opportunity for gay bashing. Thanks. Appreciate it. Next article?
peter, shedding light onto Heresy is no different than shedding light onto the Devil’s antics. Exposing evil by simply shining light onto it, IS indeed a crushing blow! The fact that you appreciate it gives me hope that you may be turning a corner and heading toward the truth! :)
While “California Catholic Daily” can freely express its opinion under the law, the institution should also be aware that discrimination against gays and lesbians is prohibited under various federal and state laws. Instead of attempting to usurp these laws by citing Catholic theological, Catholic institutions should comply with the law and work to modify the archaic and discriminatory aspects of Catholic theology and bring the church into the 21st Century.
Suzzi Sez: Render Unto Caesar (POTUS Down Low Soetoro & his ‘Happy Greeks’) – Everything…
Abandon All Hope – and Church Teaching, as well as rational reasonable logical fact based intellectually and morally valid grounds for refusing to pander to Objectively Disordered Evil…
Of face the wrath of the Gaystapo – who are all knowing – of who you are; and how to get back at those who still obstinately Refuse to Pander to their Evil.
How very ‘tolerant’ – in an Orwellian / Homo-Fasciust Totalitarian sort of newspeak way… As if any other form were allowed in this Age of Abomination.
Sorry, but this response is completely abusive and uncalled for.
No “rational reasonable logical fact based intellectually and morally valid” dialogue is comprised of name calling, either to the previous poster or, bizarrely, to the president.
Congratulations on working Birther conspiracy, accusations that the president is a closeted homosexual, and racist overtones by using slang from the black community into one completely crazy trifecta of a sentence.
Romans 12:1 I appeal to you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship.
2 Do not be conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that you may prove what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.
While Suzanne tries to fill Christians with garbage with this post, we ought to remember that God gave humanity the natural law way before we ever existed and that religious freedom has always been the root of this country as much as they have successfully tried to destroy in some cases, we can still fight for our rights to freely defend the truth and our freedom of speech.
“While “California Catholic Daily” can freely express its opinion under the law….” “for now” is the implication of your comment, is it not?
Catholic institutions MUST comply with the magesterium. The Catholic Church survived Rome, French Republic, Communism and she’ll survive LIberal Relativists such as yourself, Suzanne.
“Many clever men like you have trusted to civilization. Many clever Babylonians, many clever Egyptians, many clever men at the end of Rome. Can you tell me, in a world that is flagrant with the failures of civilisation, what there is particularly immortal about yours?” Chesterton
Suzanne, what other sins do you want the Catholic Church to approve?
California Catholic Daily is a Catholic news site, Suzanne. You might have missed that. If you hold that truth changes in accordance with what everyone votes on or what a current government mandates, you might want to time travel back to Germany with Jewish ancestry.
Wouldn’t matter if you believed in God or practiced any faith whatsoever. The progressives of that age would have gassed you anyway – under the law.
Suzzanne, in your opinion should only some Americans now be allowed by law to express “discriminating” opinions? Do you believe that there are some facts that should be unlawful to report on? Do you believe that it should be lawful for one “group” of individuals to report a “fact”, while for another “group” of individuals reporting a “fact” should be punishable by law? Is this the 21st Century you embrace?
Discriminating — To make a clear distinction; differentiate.
Fact — Something true and accurate. Something having real, demonstrable existence; reality.
Suzi : Truth does not change… Error has no rights…..
Suzanne, as much as I appreciate your support and kind words (truly!), the sad fact is that there is not a single federal anti discrimination statute on the books. In many states, it is still perfectly legal, by both state and federal law, to deny LGBT people equal access to employment, education, housing, and various family laws. So I WISH your statement were true, but, alas, LGBT people are among the few classes who can be legally discriminated against in ways that most of us would consider fundamental to living in a free society. If the Catholic Church meant what it said, that gay people should be free from all unjust discrimination, it would be the FIRST in line to work to enact antidiscrimination laws. Unfortunately, it stands in the way every time. Please help us change that!
Your Fellow Catholic, you know that the Church stands against all unjust discrimination of LGBTQ people and against all violence against them. The Church cannot support antidiscrimination laws because
“10. “Sexual orientation” does not constitute a quality comparable to race, ethnic background, etc. in respect to non-discrimination. Unlike these, homosexual orientation is an objective disorder and evokes moral concern.
11. There are areas in which it is not unjust discrimination to take sexual orientation into account, for example, in the placement of children for adoption or foster care, in employment of teachers or athletic coaches, and in military recruitment…
14…An individual’s sexual orientation is generally not known to others unless he publicly identifies himself as having this orientation or unless some overt behavior manifests it. As a rule, the majority of homosexually oriented persons who seek to lead chaste lives do not publicize their sexual orientation. Hence the problem of discrimination in terms of employment, housing, etc., does not usually arise.
Homosexual persons who assert their homosexuality tend to be precisely those who judge homosexual behavior or lifestyle to be “either completely harmless, if not an entirely good thing” , and hence worthy of public approval. It is from this quarter that one is more likely to find those who seek to “manipulate the Church by gaining the often well-intentioned support of her pastors with a view to changing civil statutes and laws”, those who use the tactic of protesting that “any and all criticism of or reservations about homosexual people… are simply diverse forms of unjust discrimination”
with references to Letter to the Bishops of the Catholic Church on the Pastoral Care of Homosexual Persons of 1986.
Suzanne, you are not going to shut anyone up from telling the truth about what the practice of sodomy and other dangerous behaviors really, really does to the body and how bad the practices really, really are. We all know that organizations like Planned Parenthood are telling young girls in certain areas that such behaviors are okay to do without giving them the facts as to how it can and does destroy ones body. It is all to line their own pockets.
That’s exactly it Anne T. No one should shut up about the truth. Even if the enemy uses the internet to try to shut one up. You do know that if they come after you it is because you must be doing something right and the devil is angry! I hate leaving comments but sometimes these blogs get to me especially more when I see Catholics not sticking together!
Many times there are people who are not Catholics who pose as Catholics on blog sites. Other times there are Catholic heretics and schismatics who do not adhere to all the teachings in the “Catechism of the Catholic Church” who pretend to be good Catholics to deceive people.
Right on Charles.
The Church does not discriminate. Those with same sex attraction can get to Heaven, just like everyone else.
The Church expects it’s members to behave chastely according to their state in life.
No single person is to have sexual activity.
(Marriage is between one man and one woman, both in the Old and New Testaments.)
For all the accurate teachings of the Church see the “Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition” #2357, 2358, 2359 & 2396.
Also see any Bible (ALL Christians) – Gen 19:1-29; Rom 1:214-27; 1 Cor 6:10; and 1 Tim 1:10.
Faithful Catholics do not tolerate Mortal Sin.
Suzanne, get with it….this is about a ‘Catholic’ institution, not about a local Denny’s!
Ahhh, “Suzanne” and “peter”: This is not the poiltical arena, as you both know. The Catholic Church is Christ’s presence on Earth, not a political party, whose platform can alter to enhance its electability. The Church offers the best pathway to salvation, not the Statehouse. “Discrimination” against a sinful behavior is oxymoronic; homosexual sex is a behavior to avoid. Catholic charity offers an open door to practicising homosexuals, but they must accept the Church’s teachings, the sinfulness of homosexual sexual behavior, and agree to amend their lives, by avoiding even the near occasion of their sexual sin. Embracing the homosexual sexual condition — while hoping that the Church changes — leaves no backdoor for the soul. There is no other way.
wow Thank God you are St. Christopher instead of St. Peter!
St. Christopher, I just read on Brietbart news that two California men have lost their jobs recently because of their Christian views on homosexuality…https://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-California/2014/05/07/Claim-Warriors-Coach-Fired-for-Christian-Views-on-Homosexuality and
I would say it won’t be long before they’ll be coming after anyone who supports traditional marriage and especially Biblical truth. I know casting blame doesn’t help, but many years ago men should have stood their ground and been the strong ‘carriers of culture’ they were meant to be instead of folding and letting women take over everything. Once their God given roles as defenders of faith and family were undermined it was very easy for ANYTHING or ANYBODY to decide what is right and what is true. Any one of sense knows you have ONE captain of a ship. You can’t let the crew and kitchen help decide how a ship should be sailed. I could care less if this offends some women…they’re going to suffer for their lack of humility and faithfulness anyway, just like the rest of us. Anyone who doesn’t think I”m right should see the horrible story of the woman laughing as she gets an abortion on a video of her making.
The thing is to fight back, not violently, of course, unless physically attacked, but with words and the truth — the Sword of the Spirit. As Pope St. John Paul I said, “Be not afraid.” The truth will set us free, in the Judeo Christian sense of the words, free from sin. That is what true liberty is all about. Those who will not listen, will just have to learn the hard way, and they will.
“Dana”: You are certainly correct. Although it is not popular to say so, men have become feminized beyond all biblical, and Church-based, expectations and teachings regarding masculinity. Unfortunately, this feminization goes far beyond a man’s role in a man-woman marriage, but in the Church, and among Catholic laity, as well. Of course, no American can legitimately be fired for having non-homosexual sexual rights or marriage beliefs. In fact, such firings should be fought vigorously. Also unfortunately, too many in today’s Catholic Church really like the feminine, feel at home being chatty, non-judgmental, all of that, when sterner stuff is needed to direct the faithful, and to be a true man in a Catholic household. What a disaster is likely waiting for us all in October.
You haven’t offended this woman one bit, Dana, as what you say is too true in my experience and those of far too many I know.
Thank you so much, Ann. Sometimes I feel like a stranger in a strange land because so many women have bought into the lie…even some I never would have believed it could happen to! I used to love that old song Peggy Lee sang…I Am Woman, w-o-m-a-n. haha I think of my greatgrandma who would be out on her horse rounding up stray cows, tending her garden, raising eleven children, baking ten loaves of bread everyday for a table of 20 or more (farmhands, guests, etc.) and still had time to write poetry. And she always wore a dress and a snowy white apron at home! (and lived to be 90)
….and she never usurped her husband’s authority and taught everyone of her children to obey him. I have her old log cabin quilt that was brought by connestoga wagon to her new home as a bride. I’ll bet you have women like that in your history too, Ann. I know Abeca does. Thank God for Godly women like that in the world and in our lives. My heart is often heavy for young women who don’t know the real joy, true joy, of submission and serving. It’s not being a doormat at all, is it? Sorry, I’m digressing yet again! But,if this young man we’ve been discussing had just had a life of hard work and discipline and love all in equal doses, I’ll bet we wouldn’t be reading about him being a dissident activist. So many young people are so unhappy these days, and what they call happy seems to be based on sensual gratification or through material goods.
I don’t think your great-grandma would approve of that song. It’s not about a good holy woman, you know.
It takes strong women to get through tough times, Dana. The ‘doormat’ myth is just that as modern women can be just as much of a doormat to what their girlfriends think they should think etc.
One of my grandmas roofed the barn in full skirts according to family legend. How she met her husband – a roving handy man back in the late 1800s. How romantic. My other grandmother gave birth to my mother at home on the farm – my grandfather tending her as there was no doctor.
So much history and so many STRONG women of conviction. And it’s that last part that gets you through. Glad you’re one of the old stock, Dana. We need more like you :)
We need more women like your grandmother Dana! And masculine men like your grandfather–and mine :)
At my son’s Catholic elementary school, his drama teacher gave them a play to learn that contained a lot of gay sexual humor and orgy humor. I was concerned because of a character called Mr. Goodbar and urban dictionaried the other phrases in the play-and it was utter filth. I complained and was resisted. Eventually the teacher relented after her husband explained the play to her.
Her next proposed play was the story of a princess who melted anything she touched. The conclusion is the princess puts her hand in a boy’s pocket and feels something hard that does not melt. I complained. The teacher changed the pocket to backpack, but the kids had already read the original. As far as a know, it went over most of their heads.
The teacher told me these plays were from books of skits made for elementary-middle school kids.
k: Suggest to the teacher that he/she read a “Catholic Bible” and the “Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition”.
If you get no results with the teacher (in the Catholic School) regarding sexually inappropriate material – contact your Diocese Bishop.
See CODE of CANON LAW regarding your right and obligation – 212 #3
regarding responsibilities of Catholic Schools 793-814.
I was told by the teacher that they got new materials and replaced those old ones. I believe it was naivete on the part of the teacher. When people are really good and don’t do naughty things, they don’t know or expect the kind of stuff that was in that play. The books she took them from are being marketed to teachers as age-appropriate. I only caught it because I had heard one of the names used in a sexual context before (I think because of a murder in NYC that occurred in the ’70s There was a book and a movie about it). And by finding the other things on urban dictionary. So maybe the person who put the skit book together didn’t know either. The person who wrote the play obviously knew. But was it intended to end up in a book for kids? Anyway, we were convinced it was an honest mistake so we did not take it to the pastor or the diocese. The problem wasn’t that the teacher didn’t know the Bible or the CCC. It was because she didn’t know gay orgy innuendo. She was a really nice married lady with kids.
omg it is k-anonymous!!!!! in the flesh!!!!!
we should just reject out of hand what k-anonymous has to say. We should show how horrible and obnoxious k-anonymous is. Where is Dana? Where is Catherine? Where is Abeca? PLEASE, we need to revolt against this horrible k-anonymous!!!!
this sounds like a game. Where is Abeca? really? k has posted as anonymous before several times or more…so don’t go there and I have never referred her as k anony either. So sounds like this anonymous poster is just trouble, if there is an anonymous poster of good will, then see what we are talking about. Why would you want to post as anonymous with these stupid games are being played by one if not more anonymous posters. It just throws any good creditability of any good willed anony passer by’s. Sometimes there were a few anony’ comment that made me suspicious wondering if YFC was also playing us with the use of anony. Just saying. After all YFC is not really a persons name.
Is Abeca Christian a person’s name?
And yet we had those who claimed k, or as she is often termed k-anonymous, didn’t exist. Thanks ‘k’! And thank you for posting the reality of what you’re combating at a Catholic school.
Interesting focus you place on Abeca, YFC. An internet search for ‘Your Fellow Catholic’ revealed the following:
Looks like CCD is being used as a feeder line for suspect ‘homophobic’ material for YFC’s special agenda. The above post/blog is password protected and the entry looks to be dated (2012), but I’m pretty much thinking that there’s a lot of trolling for material going on. And not for love of Holy Mother Church either.
Abeca Christian, do not answer any questions as to if it is your real name. Do not get on YFCs protected website either and put in your e-mail address nor anything else about yourself. “The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence” do this kind of garbage also — use this website to troll for material and post it on other sites. Some of us warned you a long time ago to be careful — heed our warnings please.
This is all too convoluted for me. I hate deceit. Thanks Ann Malley and Anne T. for these insights. I suppose all of this goes with the territory of living outside basic Catholic teaching…oh, the tangled webs we weave, when we practice to deceive, to coing an old and familiar saying. God bless you Abeca! You’re a good mom and Catholic woman. Happy Mother’s Day to you and all the women here who nurture and care for others, even if you may not have children of your own.
Thanks Anne T. I definitely know what they are capable of. I use to try to reach out to homosexuals and no longer will (if I shared with you the abuse we all took, whew long book to tell) because many (with except for a few) are ungrateful, do not want to change nor seek a loving relationship with our Lord etc. I have seen what these homosexual activist have done to a few good friends of mine who left the “gay” lifestyle. But they persevered and continued to share their story of the abusive lifestyles they use to lead.
Happy Mother’s Day to you too, dbwheeler.
God bless :)
Do not live in fear! Nor allow fear to slow you down! Continue as you are Abeca and others! Fighting the good fight!
Shocking, but that is one of the risks of posting online. No more grief to the anonymous posters. Thanks.
Shame on those who bully YFC and who are intolerant of opposing views.
Anonymous you can still elect to use a nickname. As you can see there are a few of us who can discern that even the pro-gay activist use the name Anony and other names as well. So stick to a name that is not distracting nor confusing, doesn’t have to be a name, it could also be a city, initials etc.
Well anyhoo, I should of had my attorney friend radar the web and perhaps some lawsuits against those who want to attack any Christian. Thanks guys for sharing the link to show how those “gay” activist work. They are hypocrites because they are the very root of real hatred, enough that they have special websites attacking Christians. Let this be a lesson to us all that the enemy never sleeps (and they will magnify what they want magnified just so they can carry on their own cause) and do not let them intimidate you, do not stay silent(but be smart about it, remember be step up further than the enemy), fight and don’t think for once that they have a heart that can change because some do not want to change folks, and don’t waste your pearls on them either………blessings to all…
How can you decry that, “…Our children are being raped of their innocence,” SandraD, and then attempt to shame those you misconstrue as “bullying” YFC and being “intolerant” of opposing views?
Were you being sarcastic? I hope so, because it is just such an emotion-based filtering of Truth that is responsible for these types of “speakers” being invited into schools that falsely advertise themselves as Catholic. Too many are so focused on being nice, they welcome the wolf to dinner and then wonder how the misguided beast got the notion that that their family is now on the menu.
YFC is no bleating lambkin.
SandraD I am surprised by your comments too. Another perfect example as to why the enemy is infiltrating in the church because as Catholic Christians we do not unite, we have division and we stand up for the wrong people. SandraD you best be warned, you are part of the problem who has allowed “gay” activists slam on devout Catholics.
This world is so twisted and crooked, that even those who are Catholic would think it to be OK to silence Christians. This is all happening in our back yards, you have so much false compassion. Its shameful!
It began when they crucified an innocent man by the name Jesus. “Crucify him, Crucify him and set Barabas free” SandraD where you there yelling to crucify him too? While you had false compassion and set Barabas free, a well known criminal!
SandraD are you blind! Did you not see what that fellow non-catholic is up to on the web against Abecca?? Thanks to Ann M for exposing his evil deeds! He is no man! He is the bully, and as an older gentleman, I have other descriptions for him but there are ladies here reading, so I will behave! What is wrong with these so called Catholics? As a convert this is all disturbing. When I came into this church, I never knew that Catholics where very divided. By God’s grace, He saves and protects me. I am glad that I can discern who really are Catholic, or else I may be another lost convert in this mix!
Charles A, thank you for your respect and for being a gentleman.
wow, did I type backwards???
My post “Shame on those who bully YFC and who are intolerant of opposing views”. Should have read:
YFC, shame on you and others that bully and are intolerant of opposing views”.
Thanks for the “wake up smack” team. :(
Phew. Thanks for responding SandraD. Thought there must have been something amiss.
God bless :)
No one should teach in a Catholic School who is not familiar with the Bible and the CCC.
They do not need to be Catholic, but they must fully know what the Catholic Church teaches and expects of her members.
Teachers may not teach, preach or violate teachings of the Church in school or scandalous public behavior.
Tell any teacher to get a Catholic Bible and a CCC, if they are unfamiliar with Catholic beliefs.
“….the CATECHISM has raised throughout the world, even among non-Christians, and confirms its purpose of being presented as a full, complete exposition of Catholic doctrine, enabling everyone to know what the Church professes, celebrates, lives, and prays in her daily life.” – Pope John Paul II (CCC pg xiv)
k – home school if you can. Unfortunately what many parents perceive as ‘going over their children’s heads’ doesn’t go over anything, but rather sticks very fixedly in the imagination until they get an answer to what precisely the teacher meant. Kids are far smarter than we give them credit for being. This is often learned when a child grows up and then discusses with you all those ‘lovelies’ you mistakenly believed went over their head. In other words, these disconnects often stick even more firmly in a child’s head because they want to understand and so the idea fixes in their head until they put 2 and 2 together.
Our children are being raped of their innocence.
Yes SandraD and characters like YFC will stop at nothing to have it done.
When someone tells me that they are Catholic or even Christian…I always step back and say “we will see about that, only time will tell”.
Abeca, I am with you! From experience I have come to be suspicions of businesses which place a icthus fish on their business cards and advertisements.
Good job CalCatholicDaily!
And how, Fr. Michael!
With great sadness, we have been informed that Archbishop Cordileone’s mother, Mary Cordileone, passed away today. May 8, 2014
Eternal rest grant unto her, O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon her.
May her soul and the souls of all the faithful departed, through the mercy of God, rest in peace. Amen
That is sad news. May God welcome her into His kingdom and may she pray for her son and all those who oppose Mother church. For their conversions we pray!
Folks here on this website you have had a little taste of what the “gay” activists and or Mafia will do. They started off very gently and slowly at first throughout the years, fooling the unsuspecting. Many have thought they were harmless but they are not. They have infiltrated in faith based institutions throughout the years with many now who are deceived by their tactics. Its true the enemy never sleeps, they are up for years and years until they accomplish what they want.
Jesus wins in the end folks……
“I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.”
To YFC and all others-here is what the school posted on its website.
See- no bigotry, no anti-gay, no suppression.
” …. but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin,
it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened round his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea. ” – JESUS Mt 18:6.
And Jesus doesn’t lie.
“Anonymous” and others: The Osmond letter of May 7, 2014, shows the victory of homosexual activism, including the pressures of their enabling acolytes in the Church. Concepts of “inclusion and diversity” (along with “pastoral” and “intolerance” and “bigotry”) will be included in a very short list of reasons as to why Catholic education failed. Ms. Osmond should have said that Mr. Cassin represents a point of view, a life style, that is not compatible with living a moral, Catholic life. His story may be unfortunate, but homosexual sexual persons, unless they repent, can never, ever, be considered a part of a functioning Catholic life. Too often, modern Catholic education uses one (or more) of the mindless concepts included above to abdicate any semblance of moral discernment. Education must teach ways to make proper moral judgments, to be discriminatory to nourish your soul and thereby achieve salvation. Merely smiling, holding your cute dog under a crucifix, and saying, in essence, that “we like everybody” does not do your duty in educating Catholic children. One thing that Pope Francis does very well is to remind all of us that we are dealing with Satan on a daily basis. Merely because Lucifer masks his face does not remove his presence, or dark purpose. Catholic schools can have no tolerance of homosexual sexual speakers, administrators, or teachers. They advocate a mortal sin that is always and everywhere evil and soul-killing.
“There are misconceptions and ill-informed perceptions all around. According to Notre Dame’s chief administrator, Maryann Osmond, Cassin does not come to the school to promote a gay rights agenda or to proselytize. That’s not allowed, she said.
Although there are no written guidelines on these matters as far as she knows, she said she would not invite a speaker to Notre Dame who advocates for such things as abortion, gay marriage, the death penalty and other issues which the church firmly opposes.
She pointed out this week that Cassim, who is popular with both current students and alumni, does not visit Notre Dame annually because he is gay.
“He comes because of his personal story,” she explained. “He is an excellent and inspirational speaker.”
So, his “personal story” is nothing to do with him being “gay” then! Sorry, but I just gotta LOL.
From Notre Dame’s Personal Counseling, Student Resources page.
800-246-PRIDE or 800-246-7743
LYRIC (Lavendar Youth Recreation and Information Center) http://www.lyric.org
Free and anonymous hotline provides peer support, health and sexuality information and referrals.
I would have thought a Catholic school in conformity with Catholic teaching would have couragerc.net listed on their website.
The school is clearly not interested in promoting Church teaching re homosexuality. What a warped website to have listed. I wonder who’s responsible for listing that? Sisters….! (
Gregg Cassin responds that CCD postings turned into a “witch hunt”……Mr. Cassin’s remarks, along with positive alumni support can be found in The Daily Journal for Wednesday May 21, 2014 Page 6. Title of piece “Guest speaker returns to Notre Dame” “School originally pulled lecturer after website criticized his gay activism”——-well that was the point–he’s a gay activist lecturing from an immoral stance to Catholic students about self-esteem and taking a stand for oneself. He also states in the article his concern with bishops coming up with these “morality contracts” that are “completely making schools unsafe for LGBT students”. He said “when schools have LGBT role models at school, the kids feel they are included and safe”–“especially when the Pope for the very first time said “gay” (what does that mean?). I ask you, can his thinking be more askewed? Where are the loving and caring Catholic educators and alumni to help set him straight, instead of encouraging such disorder? Why after all the letters, phone calls, emails, etc to the Catholic high school, Dept of Catholic education and the Archdiocese that nothing has been done. Will this “scandal” just get swept under the rug too? Hello, is anybody listening? Does anyone care?
The whole notion of “encouraging such disorder” is like encouraging left handedness. You either are LGBT or you aren’t, no encouragement needed, except the courage to stand up and be true to oneself. Just like left handedness. And we all know what happens when people are disdained for being who they are.
YFC, you continue to “rationalize” everything and anything to what YOU think–which doesn’t make any of what you “think” to be true–there is only the absolute Truth. You know what the absolute Truth is based on natural law, however, you choose to ignore it. SSA is a disorder. A disorder which points to numerous “early childhood” issues. Watch “The Third Way”–the people who have SSA talk about their early childhoods and the dysfunction surrounding them. All have chosen Christ over their desire to “act out” (sin). They have chosen the right path by choosing to be chaste. They can still “love” someone of the same sex, but not sexually. You love having the “last word” don’t you? Well, that might work up until your last breath–then only He will have the last word.
I think AB Cordileone has enough to deal with at the moment re Serra High School and the sex offenders there. Disgusting behavior. And of course, the death of his mother – God grant her eternal rest.
What a state these so-called Catholic High Schools are in. I would seriously be in favor of removing the Catholic status of all of them. Let’s start afresh, with faithful Catholic teachers who work with faithful Catholic parents and uphold all the teachings of our glorious faith.
SandreD, thanks to all the publicity of this case in the news paper, the local faithful Catholic population will know Notre Dame can not be considered a serious choice of high school for their children/grandchildren. The word is getting out there.
Romans chapter 1