The following comes from an Oct. 6 release from SaveCalifornia.com.
A longtime family values organization in California is speaking out on the U.S. Supreme Court’s refusal to take up the marriage cases from Indiana, Wisconsin, Utah, Oklahoma, and Virginia, where federal judges have invented homosexual “marriages” out of thin air.
“The United States of America started off as a republic, but now our once-great nation has devolved into a dictatorship of black-robed judges,” said Randy Thomasson, who in 2004 was the first to sue San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom over unlawful homosexual “marriages,” and who is president of SaveCalfornia.com, which promotes moral virtues for the common good.
“The high court’s refusal to acknowledge a constitutional conflict regarding the obvious judicial activism of lower-court judges demonstrates supreme disrespect for man-woman marriage and for our republic and its system of written laws,” Thomasson said. “Once upon a time in America, the agreed upon law was clearly written down in the Constitution. But now judges routinely ignore the Constitution and impose their personal interests as though they were kings or dictators. This should disturb every American.”
“Given the trend of unconstitutional state and federal judges, it is the responsibility of constitutional governors to uphold their state constitution’s distinction of marriage between a man and a woman, no matter what judges say. This is a constitutional crisis and it is time for the Constitution to be upheld, even when judges have abandoned their sworn responsibility.” Thomasson said.
Article IV, Section 4 of the United States Constitution guarantees to every state “a republican form of government” — meaning 1) no monarchy and 2) no lawless mob rule, but a government of written laws that represent the will of the people, who are sovereign. (See footnote recording James Madison’s definition of republican government as “a republican constitution and its existing laws”).
A nation can cease to be a republic or a constitutional democracy, according to the CIA World Factbook, which defines government types:
The United States Supreme Court’s rejection of the Constitution’s application to marriage laws means the U.S. is devolving into a dictatorship, “a form of government in which a ruler or small clique wield absolute power (not restricted by a constitution or laws).” According to the CIA World Factbook:
Constitutional – a government by or operating under an authoritative document (constitution) that sets forth the system of fundamental laws and principles that determines the nature, functions, and limits of that government.
Constitutional democracy – a form of government in which the sovereign power of the people is spelled out in a governing constitution.
Democracy – a form of government in which the supreme power is retained by the people, but which is usually exercised indirectly through a system of representation and delegated authority periodically renewed.
Democratic republic – a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote for officers and representatives responsible to them.
Dictatorship – a form of government in which a ruler or small clique wield absolute power (not restricted by a constitution or laws).
“Americans of all political stripes should be concerned when our supreme written law, the Constitution of the United States, is no longer a secure, authoritative standard that is recognized by the courts or enforced by public officials,” Thomasson concluded. “If the Constitution is no longer faithfully honored, then we’re no longer a republic, which should make everyone afraid.”
An astonishing refusal of the Supreme Court to fulfill its constitutional responsibilities. Certainly the rapid sea-change in public opinion regarding homosexual marriage had much to do with this “decision”. The Roberts Court closely guards its reputation, as can be seen by the simply bizarre decision upholding the Affordable Care Act as a “tax” (even though the Administration did not argue this as a basis for its authority). The Court’s refusal to rule on the homosexual marriage issue is not so confusing when they likely decided that they would be derided as being out of touch with the will of the people if they found that a State could withhold its approve for such marriages. Wait, wait, isn’t the Court supposed to follow the “Rule of Law” and act on the issue presented in that way? Look at the Warren Court in a much more racist America, but it decided the Brown v. Board of Education decision to favor outlawing segregation didn’t it? Yes, yes, but the Chief Justice there could put together a unanimous decision, which would not be possible in the Roberts Court. A 5-4 decision would be seen as nothing more than a political decision (by the losing side), while the public opinion continued to favor homosexual sodomy marriage rights. Well, C.J. Roberts cannot have that, no sir. Better to just let it float on by without dirtying one’s hands. No one can make fun of us now. (Much like Cardinal Dolan laughing in his beer after Obama won, and won, and got awards from Catholic colleges, and then Dolan gets invited to attend the Synod on the Family, while keeping all Tradition far, far away from NYC). Who won now? How does that song go, “The party’s over, it’s time to call it a day . . .”
As I grew older, I began to realize that our nation was NEVER really Christian; it was deist (God is a watch maker who lets the watch go as it pleases). Because we were not founded on Christian, let alone Catholic principles, man and his freedom was placed on a pedestal where Christ once reigned. This Supreme Court was in favor of slavery, took away prayer in public schools, supported abortion, and now it has done this. Instead of basing morality and law on the 10 Commandments, man has become the source of what is good and bad. In other words, RELATIVISM. As a result,, we are seeing our nation fall apart, just as the Catholic church is falling apart. Because the Church is being instructed NOT TO JUDGE ANYONE (except traditionalists), all sorts of wicked actions and behavior are tolerated if not down right encouraged. Our Lord said if the world hates you, know that it has hated Me first.. These comforting words do help in these satanic times we are in presently.
“Most holy trinity: Our father in heaven, who chose Mary as the fairest of your daughters; Holy Spirit, who chose Mary as your spouse; God the son, who chose Mary as your mother; in union with Mary, we adore your majesty and acknowledge Your supreme, eternal dominion and authority.
“Most holy trinity, we put the United States of America into the hands of Mary immaculate in order that she may present the country to you. Through her we wish to thank you for the great resources of this land and for the freedom, which has been its heritage. Through the intercession of Mary, have mercy on the Catholic Church in America. Grant us peace. Have mercy on our president and on all the officers of our government. Grant us a fruitful economy born of justice and charity. Have mercy on capital and industry and labor. Protect the family life of the nation. Guard the precious gift of many religious vocations. Through the intercession of our mother, have mercy on the sick, the poor, the tempted, sinners – on all who are in need.
NOW I KNOW THERE ARE TWO ANONYMOUSES!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Kenneth M. Fisher
Two Anonomouses! – Goodness Gracious, does that make them Anonomi?
And here I thought the plural of mous was Harpies..
Very hurtful and undeserved. there are more than 2 anonymous posters.
I think I like harpies. But mouses fits, too.
I agree with Fr. Karl. But what really made America “Christian,” to begin with– were strong churches teaching and leading their flocks! This is what needs to happen, again! Especially, in our own Catholic Church!
Fr. Karl, you may one of the few who remembers what s/he learned in basic Civics Class and History Class. This country was never founded as a Christian country. Too many of the founding fathers were Deist to allow that to happen. Although many were devout Christians, they did not assuage the Conventions. When the founding brothers spoke of God, it was not necessarily the Christian God. Those who study history know this. The influence of the Christian Church came later. Let’s remember that Maryland was set aside for Catholics who were not wanted in many of the other states. Most of New England was populated by Congregationalist who believed, at that time, who knows what; each parish decided for itself. The religious history of our country is very interesting, but not known by most of its citizens because they don’t teach it any more. The Constitution was written as a counter to the Royal Kingship of England. The Head of State to be elected by the people – who ever heard of that before? The Legislature to be an equal member of the government with the Executive – who ever heard of that before? An independent court system to ensure that the Executive and Legislative branch didn’t trample on the rights of the people, especially the minority opinions. And then, the addition of the Bill of Rights, to protect the citizens from the state and central -federal – government. A master stroke that still frustrates us, but is better than whatever is in second place.
Some of my ancestors were from the thirteen original colonies. Most of the them were Trinitarians of various types — meaning they believed in the Holy Trinity. Many of them were deacons in their churches. Sodomy was criminal back then. You would have ended up in the stocks if you had even suggested such a thing as same-sex marriage. In fact many of them left Europe because of what they considered its moral corruption. Hmmmm? The more things change, the more they stay the same. As the book of Proverbs says, “There is nothing new under the sun.”
Its nice that you had folks back in the Original 13. I have traced both sides of my family and I have documentation that they both fought at the Battle of Lexington and Concord. I was raised in the Original 13, and can tell you that as Catholics we were barely tolerated, because of our non-christian religious beliefs. As usual, history depends on who writes the book. Thomas Jefferson was a great writer, but too much time rewriting the Bible to suit his own beliefs. Catholics left Europe after the Pilgrims, but still were sent to Maryland where they were allowed to build thriving churches. The Mother Church of the U.S. is still in Baltimore. All to say that we have really progressed from the 1700s.
I have ancestors who were America Patriots, too, Some of them are in the historical records of Massachuetts and Connecticut and other such territories, all the way back to the 1600’s. In some ways we have progressed, but in some ways we have regressed — back to the times of the pagan Roman Empire on the moral issues in many places. Many will tell you it was harsh that sodomy was criminalized in those times, but the pilgrim colonies would have never made it through alive if they had not kept the STD’s under control with no medicine, no hospitals and not much sanitation. That is true also with most of the world today. That is one of the main reasons for the Biblical taboos against promiscuity and unnatural behavior. Most other religions follow the same or similar rules, as they must in order to survive and be healthy.
Father, I absolutely agree with the first argument in your post. America was not founded on Christianity.
I’m sorry Father Karl, but you are promoting a fallacy.
History shows that Christian values are largely irrelevant to the worldly prosperity of nation states and Empires.
For example, Rome prospered—culturally, economically, and in terms of worldly power—as a pagan republic. It fell after the Catholic faith became the state religion.
Proper “morals” do not guarantee worldly success, and this lesson is taught over and over in the Bible. How many times did Christ heal lepers and exalt the poor—telling us that worldly status and worldly good fortune do not reflect an individual’s standing before God?
Instead, however, you propose this idea that Christ hiimself rejected. I cannot help but wonder at your motives. Why does a man of God try to tell people that failure to conform to the beliefs and values of a church in which he is a priest will result in national failure—when both history and Christ’s Bible show otherwise?
Could it be that people fall prey to the temptation of making this connection because they believe worldly prosperity is what people truly care about? It seems to me that such people do so for either 1) the belief that the only way people will behave to their own advantage is to lie to them or 2) the desire to increase the worldly power and respect gleaned from their own position.
Both of these motives are driven by a condescending contempt for their fellow man.
(cont.) the job of the Church is to teach not to rule. Nor is it the job of the Church to encourage the mob to rule their fellows using conformity to religious values as the bludgeon to seize worldly power—in essense, Church rule by proxy.
This, however, is exaxtly what you seem to want. You decry its absense in the constitution.
Compelling your fellow man to obey what you believe to be God’s law is a spiritually devoid practice, in that if the only reason a man conforms is a spiritual gun to their head—they still do not earn any consideration from God. Their intentions, and the behavior they would indulge in absent threat, still condemn him before God.
Therefore the religious justification for seizing power over their fellow man to force them to obey does not save them spiritually. It is based, instead on a lie that allows its weilders to seize worldy power under false pretenses.
“Mary, immaculate virgin, our mother, patroness of our land, we praise you and honor you and give our country and ourselves to your sorrowful and immaculate heart. O’ sorrowful and immaculate heart of Mary pierced by the sword of sorrow prophesized by Simeon save us from degeneration, disaster and war. Protect us from all harm. O’ sorrowful and immaculate heart of Mary, you who bore the sufferings of your son in the depths of your heart be our advocate. Pray for us, that acting always according to your will and the will of your divine son, we may live and die pleasing to God. Amen.”
This claim…that because the Supreme Court decided that there was no issue at hand that they needed to consider, with respect to SEVERAL lower court decsions regarding marriages among same sex partners, renders our Republic null and void, is simply hyperbole of the very worst degree.
First of all: Under clearly established law, the Supreme Court need not take a case if there is no clear error among lower courts or if there is no disagreement amongst the various lower courts as to how the cases were decided.
In the latter instance, all 5 cases coming through three districts have all agreed that same sex partners are entitled to marry. Thus, there is no disagreement (so far) that would require the Supreme Court to arbitrate amongst them.
In the former instance, the requirement of clear error on the part of the lower courts: The lower courts were very very careful to make there decisions contingent upon law as decided, especially as regard to the latest related Supreme Court case, that of Windsor. For the court to take the case on the clear error standard, it would have to have believed that all of the dozens of lower court judges had somehow misinterpreted the Windsor ruling. That would have meant that Kennedy agreed that he was a bad writer. Ummm, if you have to argue that the deciding justice was a bad writer, you are not likely to win an appeal before him!
110. On unions of persons of the same sex, the responses of the bishops’ conferences refer to Church teaching. “There are absolutely no grounds for considering homosexual unions to be in any way similar or even remotely analogous to God’s plan for marriage and family. […] Nonetheless, according to the teaching of the Church, men and women with homosexual tendencies ‘must be accepted with respect, compassion and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided’” (CDF, Considerations regarding Proposals to Give Legal Recognition to Unions between Homosexual Persons, 4)… especially in the West, however, the increasing tendency is to adopt laws providing for registered partnerships or so-called “marriage” between persons of the same sex. People argue non-discrimination to give support to this idea, an approach which is perceived by believers and a good part of the public, in central and eastern Europe, as an imposition by a political and foreign culture…
112. The responses describe a third context, one where States have introduced legislation recognizing civil unions or so-called “marriages” between homosexual persons. In some countries, the situation reflects a real redefining of marriage, where the couple is viewed only in legal terms, with such references as “equal rights” and “non-discrimination” without any thought to a constructive dialogue in the matter based on the deeper anthropological issues involved and the centrality of the integral well-being of the human person, especially the integral well-being of the children in these unions.
There is no longer a separation of powers in the USA as required by the US Constitution (and most State Constitutions).
Legislative / Congress; Executive / President; and Judicial / Judges.
The President by his Executive Orders and the Judicial by legislating from the bench violate the Constitution all the time.
In addition, Amendment X – “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively or to the people.”
Public school education is raising a generation of imbeciles.
No one should be permitted to graduate from High School without a good understanding of both the US and their own State’s Constitution.
Hold all elected officials accountable.
The US CONSTITUION –
CALIFORNIA STATE CONSTITUTION –
All of the people who are applauding the SC have better be aware, because even though they like this decision or non decision on future issues they may not. When government refuses to defend voted upon laws of its citizens and when a few men and women (SC) refuse to hear the arguments for those laws we have a tyranny. The bread and circus that are captivating the masses will seem quite foolish when they realize that the slow creep of government has taken away THEIR freedom.
lisag, they did defend the “voted upon laws of its citizens”. The law is called the Constitution, and it is the supreme law of the land.
Equality is one man, one woman in a marriage. All else is lopsided no matter who says otherwise.
You can’t only have the parts of the US Constitution that you now find refuge.
The 14th Amendment guarantees “due process of law” and “equal protection of the laws.”
“Equal” means “equal.” This is the true cost of liberty. Get used to it.
No we are not going to “get used to it”. We will never “get used to it”.
Two men sticking their private parts where they do not belong; the same for women, does not a marriage make no matter who says so. It will only end up in bodily injuries and diseases.
I have said for a long time that our Republic is going by the wayside as the establishment of this country, financed by corrupt billionaires and sex perverts from Hollywood, turn this country into a dictatorship, setting aside even consitutional State initiatives approved by the majority of the people.
I have long believed that this, once formerly somewhat moral and commonsense nation’s Achilles’ heel has been and is the evil Supreme Court, whose rulings in the 50s to 60s on contraception, 6os rulings on free speech/pornography, 70s abortion, now this abomination, all tearing down the walls of moral restraint. The big news by the media is “Marriage Bans Fall” what they fail to understand is that this nation is also going to fall and we are already seeing the signs of that. God will not be offended or mocked forever without consequences. The irony is; that wicked, sinful America deserves Obama. Hail Caesar! Long live the Empire.
The Defense of Marriage Isn’t Over
Ryan T. Anderson researches and writes about marriage and religious liberty as the William E. Simon Fellow at The Heritage Foundation.
He also focuses on justice and moral principles in economic thought, health care and education, and has expertise in bioethics and natural law theory. Read his research.
“Monday’s action from the Supreme Court is, as I noted, a setback for sound constitutional self-government and a setback for a healthy marriage culture.
Rather than a single Roe v. Wade of marriage, where the Supreme Court would redefine marriage across the nation, the Court, by refusing to hear any of the marriage cases, has allowed lower federal courts to disregard the constitutional authority of citizens and their elected representatives to make good marriage policy.
Marriage is too important to allow unelected judges to redefine it without a fight.
Good laws that reflect the truth about marriage, frequently passed with overwhelming democratic support, have been struck down by judges without any compelling argument that they are unconstitutional.
We should recognize this for what it is: dozens of minor acts of judicial activism, rather than one major one.
If this is the case, where do we go from here? What should we do to continue defending marriage?
Do you want to vote for a “proud gay American” in California? (‘GOP hopeful DeMaio’)
Or do you want moral values persons?
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One of the reasons I went to Law School (McGeorge 03 W/ Distinction) was to ‘Learn the Law’ – primarily because of ugly experiences with attorney’s who are a prime example of ‘The Race to the Bottom’.
This means that whoever plays dirtiest, usually wins – and in the days of law libraries (before on-line research) there were frequent instances of lawyers Removing Updates to Cases from the Law Library Books – to keep the other side ignorant and spring a ‘gotcha’ moment on the ‘enemy’. Presently – sites like Wikipedia also Retroactively Change Case Facts – for political purposes.
What I actually found out is that there is no ‘The Law’ – just politically appointed Judges who pretty much make it up as pleases them – now using the Gaysatpo Coin Toss = Heads we win, Tails you lose. At least they are consistent..
I started at 44 – and most of the class were 22 fresh from undergrad, and had never held a job except perhaps waiting tables – but were eager to become ‘Wise Counselors’ – at good wages.
One of the Finest Exposes on ‘The Law’ ever written is “Devil’s Advocates – The Unnatural History of Lawyers” by NOLO press, and it provides a condensed legal education like no other.
One point made early on was that the USSC has Reversed itself nearly 400 times so far – depending on who won the election and got their appointments.The Vetting process is so political that Bush-1 put Souter on the Court, who then ruled against him with a vengeance – until waiting for Bush-2 to retire so POTUS ‘Down Low Soetoro could have his first Justice appointment – if not actual Justice.
As has been wisely observed: ‘Those who respect the law or enjoy sausage, should never watch either being made,’
Desptie your “with distinction” honors, you law school apparently never taught you the emptiness of the ad hominem.
How you earned a degree while liberally employing logical fallacies in your arguments simply shows the degradation of educational standards.
“Mike Huckabee Blasts Republican Leaders, Threatens to Leave Party, for ‘Abdicating’ on Same-Sex Marriage
Former Arkansas governor and potential 2016 Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee issued a warning to Republican leaders that if they abandon long-held positions against same-sex marriage and abortion to appeal to moderate voters, then he would become an independent.
I used to be an Independent, but had to choose one party in order to vote in the CA Primary elections.
What the bought and paid for ‘free press’ reports, and more importantly Censors, has a huge effect on the electorate, thus our ‘dear leaders’ – and the resultant ‘Turkey Baster Creationist’ Court system that outlasts them all.
The former City of Saint Francis, now better known as Sodom by the Sea, is still the nexus for worldwide spread of ever newer / treatment resistant strains of STDs (Aids, Syph, Gono, MRSA…) – with politicos like Tommy ‘TP’ Ammiano scolding the media for reporting on it – not the diseases themselves, but the fact that they still vector from the Castro – after 3 decades of ‘education’.
But this behavior is just part of the Frisco scene – exported to Sacramento with former mayor (now Gov. Lt. – with no real opposition on the gaydar for the next election) Gravid Nuisance.
BTW – the ”Trying Times / 2nd Digital First Media / old Singleton propaganda empire’ – has endorsed Gravid Nuisance for Gov. Lt. in order to give him “A Bully Pulpit.” – although they regularly print stories denouncing such bullying.
How is Mike Huckabee saying he will leave, any kind of threat?
I say, “Good riddance.”
Most moral voters will leave.
Catholics can not vote for evil.
McDermott seems to know a lot about gaydar, don’t you think? A little too much for a perpetually single 50-60 something year old man who spends his days railing against his fellow [gay] man, if you ask me. Maybe he and the 50-something perpetually single homophobe other Michael “Vortex” Voris have something in common?
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Which is a whole lot more than our lamesteam media does – save mostly by Censorship of important facts about their favorites – such as the massive coverup of Gov. Lt. Gravid Nuisance – when it came out he was having it off with a Female Subordinate (with a “substance Abuse problem, which he may have shared), who was Married to his Campaign Manager.
The east bay (singleton / digital first) media completely censored the story, and he still got elected, and received their endorsement for a second term to use as “A Bully Pulpit) – because of his ‘tolerant leadership’ in support for the Gaystapo ssm ‘tolerance’ pogrom.
SEE: Save California Election Center
It’s here, it’s queer, and we were warned what would happen back in 2008 by Cdl. James Francis Stafford, but we chose NOT to listen. Of course I speak of his bizarre rant that seemed to come out of nowhere in 2008, but, once again, we chose NOT to listen to him. Cdl. Stafford warned us of Barack Hussein Obama, that he’d be “apocalyptic and “divisive.” And also that we as a nation would shed “hot tears of regret” should he be elected. Still no traction with too many voters that should’ve known better. So now here we are with Same Sex Marriage almost becoming a fait accompli by a really morally corrupt SCOTUS, replete with MANY Catholic justices, who did no good, just caved to pressure from the GayFascist lobby. This is ALL through the devil-in-the-details confusion and chaos engendered by the “man of sin”, Hussein Obama. I don’t know if he’s THE antichrist, but for sure he’s a TYPE of the antichrist. His machinations are literally EVERYWHERE across the world. BTW, he’s a living embodiment of the cosmic warning of Jesus, True God, True Man: “Lucifer was a LIAR and MURDERER from the beginning”. Just think of Obama’s MANY connections to pro-abortion, they’re stunning and murderous. Once again, we were warned. No-one to blame but ourselves. Holy Mary, Madre Dios, please pray for us. God Bless all. Markrite