The following comes from a Feb. 25 op-ed piece in the Washington Examiner.
Call it what you want — anti-gay or religious rights — but if Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signs a controversial bill, you might not be calling Arizona the home of the 2015 Super Bowl.
The Religious Freedom Restoration Act, S.B. 1062, is the current controversy du jour out of Arizona, and the National Football League is with the opposition.
“Our policies emphasize tolerance and inclusiveness and prohibit discrimination based on age, gender, race, religion, sexual orientation or any other improper standard,” NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told USA Today. “We are following the issue in Arizona and will continue to do so should the bill be signed into law, but will decline further comment at this time.”
The Arizona Super Bowl Host committee released a statement saying it disagreed with the bill and its impact on Arizona’s economy.
“On that matter we have heard loud and clear from our various stakeholders that adoption of this legislation would not only run contrary to that goal but deal a significant blow to the state’s economic growth potential,” a committee spokesperson said. “We do not support this legislation.”
Arizona is currently slated to host the 2015 Super Bowl at Glendale’s University of Phoenix Stadium.
Opponents of the bill contend that it will allow Arizona businesses to refuse service to homosexual customers.
But, as with most bills in Congress, the attack ads have little to do with the actual legislation.
Proponents of the bill claim that no, businesses will not have carte blanche to refuse service to anyone they disagree with based on religious grounds.
Specifically, proponents claim that there is nothing in Arizona’s current laws that prevent businesses from discriminating against anyone — and yet, strangely enough, discrimination isn’t happening.
Apparently, businesses in Arizona have wanted to discriminate but have just been waiting for a bill to allow them to do so — which this bill does not. Also, what business would quietly wait to discriminate?
“Business owners do not want to deny service to gays,” the Christian Post wrote. “This is not because they fear government sanction. Rather, it is because: 1) Their religious, ethical or moral beliefs tell them it is wrong to deny service; and/or, 2) the profit motive — turning away customers is no way to run a business.”
Sounds like the opponents — and the NFL — need to take a knee.
To read the original piece, click here.
If there is no discrimination and nobody wants to discriminate, then they will not get sued for discrimination, and therefore this bill is totally and completely unnecessary. It is trying to solve a problem that they claim they don’t have. Since when do we pass laws to solve problems that do not exist?
Here is the real intent of the Arizona bill: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WhiteTradeOnlyLancasterOhio.jpg
Wiki is convenient but not always accurate.
Go to the official Arizona State site if you want to see accurate legislation.
Always go to the official source for accuracy.
If the general premise of this article is true – that discrimination isn’t happening (without legal repercussions) – why would this legislation be needed at all?
The bill was necessary for anti-gay forces to demonstrate their animosity towards gay people. To make them feel like they are second class citizens, that they are not worthy of buying food, obtaining medical care, or renting a house. As pure a legislative show of animosity as we’ve seen in the US in decades.
Self called “YFC” and peter,
You both know darn well why this Bill has been introduced. As if you did not know that Bakers and Photographers have already been persecuted for excercising their firmly held religious beliefs.
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika!
Viva Cristo Rey!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Kenneth, I absolutely know why this bill was introduced: It was introduced to make a big public display of the animosity which Republicans in the Arizona legislature held for gay people. We know that without any shadow of a doubt.
However, you should know perfectly well that the bill does not mention gay people. It is so overly broad it allows anyone to discriminate for any reason they can grasp at a faith straw for. See my various examples on my page. Did you actually READ the bill?
Next to the Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson took greatest pride in his authorship of the Virginia Statute of Religious Freedom, which, as his friend James Madison said, “extinguished forever the ambitious hope of making laws for the human mind.”
Jefferson wrote this statute in 1777, when he had returned from the Continental Congress to begin a wholesale revision of Virginia’s laws that would eradicate every trace of aristocratic privilege hidden in them. At the time, “the free exercise of religion, according to the dictates of conscience” was an established right in Virginia. Yet Jefferson’s statute was bitterly opposed and led to what he later called “the severest contest in which I have ever been engaged.” The statute finally passed in 1786, thanks to the political skills of James Madison and only after the assembly had deleted significant portions of Jefferson’s original law. Partly as a result of this victory, however, Jefferson gained a reputation as an enemy of religion. Thirty years later he wrote that “the priests indeed have…thought it proper to ascribe to me…anti-religious sentiments…They wished him to be thought atheist deist, or devil, who could advocate freedom from their religious dictations.”
Gays are following every other faction of the grievance industry: historical sanction, toleration, acceptance, entitlement.
She might as well veto the bill as it is unconstitutional. Texas just got slammed today. U.S. District Judge Orlando Garcia ruled Wednesday that Texas’ ban on same-sex marriage is unconstitutional.Garcia issued a preliminary injunction on the state’s ban, citing Supreme Court precedent. However, Garcia issued a stay on his order, meaning the ban will remain in effect pending appeal.“Today’s court decision is not made in defiance of the great people of Texas or the Texas Legislature, but in compliance with the U.S. Constitution and Supreme Court precedent,” Garcia wrote in the order. “Without a rational relation to a legitimate governmental purpose, state-imposed inequality can find no refuge in our U.S. Constitution.”
She did veto the bill.
Not Russia, this was a Religious Freedom Bill which Gov. Brewer vetoed. I do find it disturbing that you chose to use the word “slammed” to describe a judge’s ruling in Texas. The use of this term sounds tyrannical to me.
Tracy, U.S. Constitution and Supreme Court precedent,” Garcia wrote in the order. “Without a rational relation to a legitimate governmental purpose, state-imposed inequality can find no refuge in our U.S. Constitution.” = slammed. What federal Supreme Court justice wrote this? Antonin Scalia.
Right is right even if no one is doing it, and wrong is wrong even though everyone is doing it. I say, the heck with the NFL. When sports becomes political, it is no longer sports nor entertainment. GOD made the laws for man to obey concerning nature. If any sports organization does not like it, then too bad.
I only wish I were a Professional Football player scheduled to play in that so called game. If this bill is not upheld, I would withdraw my participation from that exhibit!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika!
Viva Cristo Rey!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Kenneth, we all thought you WERE a professional football player.
And a retired Cristero.
Candidly, I do not care about the Super Bowl. If they never played another one, that’d be okay with me.
Here is the thing brothers and sisters, we have to recognize that where we once thought we had the protection of the rule of law, we were mistaken. Even if Brewer signs SB 1062 in to law, expect it to be repealed by an activist judiciary. Gone with the wind, eh?
I think I know where this all ends up and it won’t be pleasant here in the world for those Christian faithful to Christ and His Church.
“We are not necessarily doubting that God will do the best for us; we are wondering how painful the best will turn out to be”, CS Lewis.
Ad Jesu Par Mariam
God bless Arizona, Russia, and Uganda.
God bless the United States of America and that includes Arizona.
Blessed be those who hear the word of God and keep it.
God bless Ukraine too.
I’m confused. Is this a Catholic site or a Homosexual-Pretending-to-Be -Catholic site?
It’s a site where gay-unfriendly Catholics can get together and express outrage at the Gay Rights movement in full bloom. And gay-friendly Catholics can express outrage at the outrage. And everyone can feel sanctimonious and superior to someone. What’s more fun (or Catholic) than a feedback loop of fear, anger and disgust?
Gov. Jan Brewer just now caved.
We can all boycott anything done by the NFL including TV viewing.
Please keep us posted.
We should let the NFL know that they can not blackmail a State regarding legislation.
Nor can they blackmail Christians, Muslims and Jews who practice their Faith.
Mac, Arizona lost the Super Bowl in 1993 and nothing was done to the NFL. Your religion is protected and the rest of us are protected from your religion. Religion is separate from government. Government cannot establish a religion. Your definition of religious freedom against gays is unconstitutional.
Not Russia, ”Congress shall make no law establishing religion, or to PREVENT the FREE EXERCISE thereof”.
Tracy, I really don’t think you know what that means. You need to dig a little more to find out.
You also need to make sure you never fly on American, Delta, or Southwest; never use an Apple computer or digital device, or any computer that uses an Intel processor; never use Verizon or AT&T for communications – they all urged veto of the bill. There are about six dozen more, as well.
People spend to much time and money on sports anyway.
Intead of making the NFL even richer, help those in need;
or read the Bible and the CCC.
For goodness’ sake, it seems like half the articles in this website are about homosexual this, or homosexual that.
Why don’t you just change the name to “California Catholic Gayly” and be done with it, once and for all?
good one ! CCG is just about right.
The Super Bowl is an American Religious Holy Day for American Pagans. :(
There are a lot of religious folks playing in the NFL on Sunday(s) and of course the High Holy Day called the Super Bowl. The church of the NFL is one of the greatest religious freedoms we may have. Jesus Loves Football.
Rick, yes there ARE a lot of religious folks playing in the NFL. There are also a lot of people of different religious persuasions which attend the Super Bowl or view it on TV. Neither of these facts negate what I posted. I had the ability to actually attend a Super Bowl game in the past. To say the least, it was an eye opener.
Anima Christi:
Anima Christi, sanctifica me. Corpus Christi, salve me. Sanguis Christi, inebria me. Aqua lateris Christi, lava me. Passio Christi, conforta me. O bone Iesu, exaudi me. Intra tua vulnera absconde me. Ne permittas me separari a te. Ab hoste maligno defende me. In hora mortis meae voca me. Et iube me venire ad te, ut cum Sanctis tuis laudem te in saecula saeculorum. Amen.
Soul of Christ, sanctify me. Body of Christ, save me. Blood of Christ, inebriate me. Water from the side of Christ, wash me. Passion of Christ, strengthen me. O good Jesus, hear me. Within thy wounds hide me. Permit me not to be separated from thee. From the wicked foe defend me. At the hour of my death call me. And bid me come to thee. That with thy saints I may praise thee For ever and ever. Amen.
Lord Jesus please empower your people of faith. Help us in this great time of need. We pray for the conversion of all sinners especially those with whom offend your natural law and who wish to impose their immoral lifestyles upon your people. Lord Jesus we pray for the conversion of all sinners, we pray for your truth’s to free them from slavery of grave sins. We pray for your blood to heal those in most need of healing. Amen
Jesus saves.
Its no new news that Jesus saves. But how many actually believe it? That is a another reality that we are facing. Many have a lack of trust in our Lord. They think they can do better, if it doesn’t feel good why try. Its their flesh that they are more concerned about but do they know that suffering for the greater good in Jesus is actually more joyous. At first the flesh makes us feel that we cant handle it but once we persevere in Jesus and fall deeper in love with His ways and truths, then we find real joy. We need to trust God and be vulnerable to Him. Approach Him like a little child.
If you don’t know what that means or how….Then get on your knees in humility and beg Jesus to show you how!
Lord they are telling people that they love worldly ways more than their love for you. They are lost souls Lord and you know it by their convictions away from you. Lord once you gave us “your voice”, but now they want to shut it down. They are hypocrites Lord because they use you as a slogan to sound off as if they are people of faith but yet they are going against your natural law. Lord please empower your people of faith. Show us the same protection and mercy as you have shown Noah and His family. When you spoke it was known very well. Lord what can we do to please you for these sinful actions of the NFL. May our prayers for the conversion of all sinners be heard. Amen
Blessed be God. Blessed be His Holy Name. Blessed be Jesus Christ, true God and true Man. Blessed be the Name of Jesus. Blessed be His Most Sacred Heart. Blessed be His Most Precious Blood. Blessed be Jesus in the Most Holy Sacrament of the Altar. Blessed be the Holy Spirit, the Paraclete. Blessed be the great Mother of Christ, Mary most Holy. Blessed be her Holy and Immaculate Conception. Blessed be her Glorious Assumption. Blessed be the Name of Mary, Virgin and Mother. Blessed be St. Joseph, her most chaste spouse. Blessed be God in His Angels and in His Saints. Amen.
Abeca — stop whining.
And stop using me as a ricochet kind of prayer person to strike at the other people in this blog.
I don’t read this blog much, so your posts to me are a waste of time.
I’m busy trying to help the children of Syria, and the people of Africa, and the folks fighting for freedom in Ukraine.
Again I ask you WHO DO YOU LOVE MORE? Your homosexuality or Jesus? Those of us who can reason and follow Jesus intelligently will know you by your response.
We see it through their answers. They are not choosing Jesus but only their man made views. It’s a pity, many will walk away from Jesus invitation. They did it when He was here on earth and still do now.
Excuses excuses is all I hear.
WHO DO YOU LOVE MORE? YOUR HOMOSEXUALITY OR JESUS! We are seeing the answer before us by those in high places.
It is better to lose your limb that is sinning than to have it send you to Gehenna! Lose the NFL if they are what is causing your immorality! NO one is standing up for the unborn as these are doing for the unnatural sexual appetites.
Abeca Christian. Jesus said, Mark 12:30-31
New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)
30 you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ 31 The second is this, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”
I will continue to pray for you and others who reject Jesus calling to honor His natural law.
“For me, prayer is a surge of the heart; it is a simple look turned toward heaven, it is a cry of recognition and of love, embracing both trial and joy.”
― Thérèse de Lisieux
Maybe you could step on two soap boxes next time, Abeca . . . I couldn’t quite hear you.
peter you don’t have to hear me. I just wish you would hear Jesus instead.
Abeca, there is no choice between being gay and loving Jesus. Didn’t you read the Catechism?
AMEN to that Abeca!!!
I choose Jesus! I choose to be chaste as the church says so! To save me from hell!
God bless you Tired.
You do NOT love Jesus when you purposely commit or intend to commit sodomy or other sexual sins.
CCC: “2396 Among the sins gravely contrary to chastity are masturbation, fornication, pornography, and homosexual practices.”
No Catholics may aid and abet (cooperate) in the Mortal Sins of others.
CCC: ” 1868 Sin is a personal act. Moreover, we have a responsibility for the sins committed by others when we cooperate in them:
– by participating directly and voluntarily in them;
– by ordering, advising, praising, or approving them;
– by not disclosing or not hindering them when we have an obligation to do so;
– by protecting evil-doers.”
Like all other unmarried persons, homosexuals are called to a live of celibacy (chasity).
CCC: ” 2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace,
they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.”
Thank you Paul. Such beautiful reminders to those who have hardened hearts. Your comments demonstrate mercy and true charity. An invitation of true love, more pieces to the puzzle which leads all souls to sanctifying grace.
Oh the sweet sanctifying grace from Jesus. His blood is saving and healing. His blood is pure and precious. I’m in love with Jesus. In love with His saving blood. That love gives us mercy and grace. If we could only place ourselves at the foot of the cross, be there when Jesus was crucified, touch Jesus feet. Perhaps the emotions are far to real and far too much for some to handle. But if that saves us, then why not!
There is an invitation on the table from Jesus. It has your name on it. Some will open it, some will ignore it, some will read its contents but reject it or twist it. Some will miss it’s time and place. Some will tear it up, some will throw it away. Some will twist it’s truth and not take its calling. Even from within His church and those outside of it, will make excuses as to why not to accept His invitation.
Our sweet loving savior is calling each and everyone of us to deny ourselves and walk with Jesus. To take up our cross. Oh that sweet joy we receive from saying yes to Him. It is an act of obedience that leads to holiness. No matter what our flaws are, no matter how difficult it is to accept His invitation, as long as we take that first step to take into our hands and open it, to follow its guidance and direction. It may be a hard thing for some but it doesn’t hurt to try. After all, all good things and growth in virtue isn’t always easy. Jesus is our Lord and savior, He didn’t have to suffer His passion, He could of just said the word and we will be saved but He went through suffering, His passion to show us that in this life we have to suffer too to reap our rewards in the end.
There is an invitation on the table from Jesus. Please don’t twist His truths.
Your Fellow Catholic:
Jesus does not lie or deceive, but we shall not debate Vatican II errors.
There would not be enough space nor time for that issue.
Now if Catholics had dash and daring, they would boycott the NFL , even the Super Bowl (the best defense being an offense so to speak). Of course this would require no little discipline, lots of sacrifice, and perhaps some research. That is, they would first have to find something to do on Sundays other than Football. Aye, and there’s the rub. What to do, what—to—do? Assuming the possibility, they’d then have to practice convincing themselves that such thing is of infinitely greater importance than Football (or even of TV—I didn’t say this would be easy).
What do you think? Volunteers? How ‘bout a show of hands. Jolly good. Now the first thing we three. . . .
Something to do besides watching hours of TV, playing on computers and andriods, etc – – – –
– Volunteering to help others.
– Cleaning out the house and donating clothing and things we do not absolutely need to the poor.
– Reading the Bible, starting with the New Testament.
– Studying the “Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition”
“….. let us ask ourselves if we have actually taken a few steps to get to know Christ and the truths of faith more, by reading and meditating on the Scriptures, studying the Catechism, steadily approaching the Sacraments.” Pope Francis, May 15, 2013.
The operative word in my above sketch was “Sundays” (What to do, what—to—do?).
Go for a walk, Hymie, or if you are healthy enough, play ball with a child or other person. I am telling you this because I need to hear it myself. My husband and I were playing basketball with one of our grandsons when I was in my late sixties and he in his seventies. I was swinging off a ladder painting the inside of our house in my mid sixties. They say playing sports moderately in ones teens even helps a person when they get older. Be involved in sports instead of watching them.
After church, though, and doing some of the things Paul suggested.
but don’t buy NFL equipment. (Lots of laughs.)
It is a simple choice between Faith or football!
If it is difficult you may have a problem!
What would your mum do? By your Mum I am speaking of our heavenly Mother Mary. She would interced for you to choose Jesus. Her son.
Take yourself back to when you were 3 or 4 years old. Jesus at your side or you sitting on His lap. Can you place your little hands on His face. Smile and feel His rough face. His beard and His lips. The little child in you, staring right in His eye’s. His love and merciful stare. You just can’t stop looking at Him, you just can’t stop. He is holding you and you feel safe. Yes only a little child. But the adult in you now, will not trust nor sit in His lap anymore because you are not His little child anymore but only the adult that you allowed this world to make of you away from Him, who saves.
“Do you realize
that Jesus is there
in the tabernacle
expressly for you-
for you alone? He
burns with the
desire to come into
your heart… don’t
listen to the demon,
laugh at him, and
go without fear to
receive the Jesus of
peace and love…”
― Thérèse de Lisieux
“Be brave and try to detach your heart from worldly things. Do your utmost to banish darkness from your mind and come to understand what true, selfless piety is. Through confession, endeavor to purify your heart of anything which may still taint it. Enliven your faith, which is essential to understand and achieve piety.”
– Saint Don John Bosco
Abeca, Jesus in The New testament never once specifically advocated for or against gay people. If gay people are actually the plight and cause of the destruction of mankind and the world as a whole, then a reasonable person of faith might think that he would have at least made some specific mention of it. There are 613 commandments in The Old Testament, and most all of them are ignored in our current era and that includes the Jewish faith. Everyone’s Religious faith is protected by our Constitution, which is the law of the land. Our Constitution guarantee’s that all of its citizens will have equal justice under the law. That is and always will be the struggle of our Republic as a whole. The Gay community and their advocates are fighting for equality under the Law, not world domination. You are entitled to your religious opinion. In this case it is not the law of the land. The struggle for equal justice for all moves forward thanks to the founding fathers of this great nation. That’s my opinion. Jesus said, you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ The second is this, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”
There was and is not inequality as you define it. Why do people who don’t believe in Scripture are dictating to others as to how to interpret it? You suggest that Jesus never addressed the issue of gays, yet omit the fact that the Constitution never mentioned them also.
Noone has asserted (yet) that the consitution is the word of God.
Of course the Constitution mentions gay people! It talks about “We the people” throughout. “We” means all of us who are part of the Union. Every one of us, without exception. Or are you claiming that if one is gay then one forfeits his or her American citizenship?
The Constitution never mentioned that women should have the right to vote among other things. Right wing religious bigots don’t own the interpretation, understanding or control of anything.
Two men misusing their body parts and giving each other STDs, rectal and oral cancers and a multitude of diseases and bodily injuries, including “Gay Bowel Syndrome”, and/or telling others the behavior is all right is in no way the love of neighbor. The Lord Jesus told the rich young man to keep the moral Commandments, and in saying that he meant ALL OF THEM, including the taboo against sodomy. The Lord did not mention incest nor bestiality in the New Testament either because it was not necessary since the Jewish people knew those things, right along with sodomy, were forbidden in the moral law. Nevertheless, St. Paul and St. Jude did include the prohibitions against sodomy in their letters in the New Testament. AND YOU ALL KNOW THAT, but as St. Paul clearly warned there would be those who twist the Scriptures to their own damnation. Christians do not have to keep the ritual law of the Old Testament as Christ fulfilled that, but they do have to keep the moral law. And we all know that there are limits to freedom of religion. There has to be or this country would end up in chaos. We cannot have polygamy, polyandry, monogamy and marriage between those of the same sex all at one time. IMPOSSIBLE! Some of you have your heads screwed on backwards if you think so.
Really Ann T., you have reached the bottom of the rotten barrel on this one: The term Gay Bowel Syndrome is no longer in wide use in the medical community, except as a historical curiosity. The most recent MedLine reference for it is 1997, and that is an article about the history of the term. If one is insane, this could be seen as the success of the “homosexual lobby.”
One of the single best examples of this is from the so-called conservative wiki Conservapedia where entire pages are devoted to the topic. Its persistence is more reflective of ignorance and hate than science.
Ann T, welcome to anti homosexual religious right wing 101. Defamatory propaganda about gays and lesbians is a mainstay of the anti-gay movement. Perhaps the most influential anti-gay propagandist is Paul Cameron. After losing his job teaching psychology at the University of Nebraska, Cameron set himself up as an independent sex researcher in the late 1970s, churning out scores of anti-gay pamphlets that were distributed mostly in fundamentalist churches. Cameron’s “studies” falsely concluded that gay people were disproportionately responsible for child molestation, serial killings and the spread of sexually transmitted diseases. Gay people, according to Cameron’s baseless claims, were obsessed with consuming human excrement ( some have proclaimed this as truth on this site), allowing them to spread deadly diseases simply by shaking hands with unsuspecting strangers or using public restrooms. Cameron’s research was debunked repeatedly in newspaper and magazine exposés, which showed his studies to be anything but scientific. But he soldiered on. Even after being expelled from the American Psychological Association in 1983 for violating ethical standards in his work, Cameron tried to stay in the game by now referring to himself as a sociologist — until the American Sociological Association passed a 1986 resolution declaring, “Paul Cameron is not a sociologist, and [this group] condemns his constant misrepresentation of sociological research.” This is nothing new(SOS) to homosexuals. They remain strong and are moving forward to equality under the Constitution in spite of the anti homosexual propaganda and lies they spread.
Coming from you two, those are compliments.
Facts are facts, and I have no idea who Cameron, but we all know that sodomy involves a large amount of disgusting fecal matter and causes tears in that part of the body which makes it more prone to disease. Even one young women whose father was a practicing homosexual wrote in her book about the sheets filled with feces that had to be washed in their home. That is a well kept “secret” that those who practice the habit do not want discussed. Also, many hotel maids have told how filthy some of the rooms are after some men indulge in such behavior, especially if they are high on drugs or alcohol or both. Even without such drugs, it is a dirty, filthy habit, and it is about time decent people flat out state the facts. Take it up with some of the sons and daughters that have had to live in that kind of environment, and the hotel workers who have had to clean up the disgusting mess.
Anne T. if you are going to go after the entire gay community because of anal sex, you should know a few things first: 1) Few gay women engage in anal sex. 2) Not all gay men engage in anal sex. 3) Most anal sex is actually done by straight couples.
If you want to make some moral point about anal sex, fine. I think most will get entirely turned off by the graphic nature of what you are trying to convey, but perhaps I’m wrong. But if you are going to make a moral point about anal sex, please make sure you tell the complete picture.
The complete picture of your third point, YFC, would likely have to be clarified as well. That is there are more heterosexual couples by far who would be able to engage in sodomy. But homosexual men, by the very nature of what parts they have or have not, would be more inclined to engage in sodomy as the mainstay of sexual relations.
That is what makes the ‘gay community’ more of a target. The reality that by the very nature of same sex coupling, sodomy is assumed. That does not in any way absolve the more secret sins of heterosexual couples. (This is likely why a more graphic telling of anal sex will turn people off from discussion – either they are repulsed by it or they have absolved themselves of it because, after all, they’re not homosexual. They don’t want to call out the sinful reality of what they’re doing themselves in the privacy of their bedrooms.)
But the seeming determination to make that which is sinful publicly acceptable or lauded as normal and healthy and worthy of embrace by the culture at large is an even greater sin as it seeks to absolve that which is inherently disordered. Promotion of vice. Not a good thing.
That’s the horror here.
Exactly, Anne Malley, but rectal cancer is rare among heterosexual couples and so are some of the other diseases that are common to practicing homosexuals. Thus the practice of that behavior is far rarer among heterosexual couples than the two men writing above would like us to think. A lot of this behavior is gotten from pornographic materials where the women have been drugged to stand the pain of certain behavior and the pictures of them airbrushed. There have been women who have told their story on line about how they thought everything was going to be “normal” when they agreed to be filmed, but they ended up doing things that were so painful they had to be drugged to make it look like they were having a “good time”. Now I am tired of this discussion, but I just could not let them get away with their lies.
Correction: “who Cameron is.”
ANN your facts are not facts. To characterize and condemn a whole community of people because you may dislike or hate them is plain ignorance. If you don’t know who Cameron is then he was just revealed to you. Hotel workers have more horror stories to tell that are much worse than what you wrote and many more than you could ever imagine and they are not about homosexuals. You know as well as I do the horrendous filthy things that heterosexuals do and perpetrated on society. The fact is it does not reflect on all of them as it shouldn’t with homosexuals . Your argument is baseless. You need to conger up some real facts It’ still about fighting for equality and justice under the law. That is exactly why there is a separation of religion and government in our constitution.
I was not accusing ALL practicing homosexuals of doing the same things, but it does involve anal sex, which anyone who knows anything about medicine, sooner or later tears up that part of the body and exposes one to fecal matter on the body which causes disease.