The following comes from a June 15 posting by Deacon Greg Kandra on Patheos.com. See June 12 California Catholic story on Gavin Newsom and San Francisco mayor warning Archbishop Cordileone not to go to marriage march.
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi took the lead this week in a high-profile lobbying effort to pressure San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone not to attend the controversial March for Marriage event, which she characterized as “venom masquerading as virtue.”
Pelosi, who is one of the country’s most powerful Catholic politicians, made a passionate appeal to the archbishop in a letter obtained by The Chronicle not to participate in the National Organization for Marriage‘s June 19 march on the Supreme Court in Washington.
Cordileone, who is one of the featured speakers at the event, was a leader in the campaign for Proposition 8, the 2008 California anti-gay-marriage initiative.
“We share our love of the Catholic faith and our city of San Francisco,” Pelosi wrote to Cordileone, who, as head of the 560,000-member Archdiocese of San Francisco, has become the Catholic bishops’ point man against gay marriage. She urged him to abandon an event in which some of the participants show “disdain and hate towards LGBT persons.”
Invoking the words of Pope Francis with regard to gays and lesbians, she wrote, “If someone is gay and is searching for the Lord and has good will, then who am I to judge him?”
The goal of the second annual March for Marriage is to draw thousands of supporters of what they call “traditional marriage” to walk from the U.S Capitol to the Supreme Court. Conservative former presidential candidates Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum, as well as Cordileone, are being billed as the star speakers.
The San Francisco Democratic leader is the most influential in a parade of public figures who have come forward to protest the San Francisco archbishop’s participation in an event that is also backed by the Family Research Council. Critics have called the organizers “hate groups” that are targeting gays and lesbians….
To read the original posting, click here.
My dog may be more Catholic than Nancy Pelosi. At least my dog knows same sex is wrong.
Nancy Pelosi is a Catholic HERETIC and SCHISMATIC – based upon Church definitions (CCC 2089).
In March 2014 she was awarded the biggest HATE award that Planned Parenthood conveys – against the most innocent – the Margaret Sanger Award.
Supporting the Murder of the unborn for the convenience of others.
This is what happens when Bishops do not teach, correct, and when necessary discipline according to Canons 915 and 1399.
And when Sacrilege against the Body and Blood of our Lord is allowed to continue, along with public scandal.
This along with lack of study of the CCC and Bible at home, are the biggest causes of DISUNITY within the Church.
It is not Love of Neighbor to allow sinners to wallow in sin, without correction.
It is not Love of Neighbor to allow sinners to drag others into sin.
HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE is one of the INTRINSIC EVILS.
Sodomy is a Mortal Sin.
When is this horrible woman, a total disgrace to Catholicism, going to be excommunicated? How long, O Lord, how long!
YES!! How long, until our Church leaders finally have the HONESTY and COURAGE, to EXCOMMUNICATE such vile politicians, like Rep. Pelosi– who falsely masquerade as “Catholic?”
Excommunicate and be done with it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Pray for Archbishop Cordileone (who has only been Abp of sinful SFO since late Oct, 2012).
Faithful Catholics everywhere must support him.
There is much evil in the SFO diocese due to the acts of omission and commission of Abp George H. Niederauer.
The devil is deeply involved.
Cindy,
The Ordinary before Niederauer did not help matters either!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher,
74 YEAR OLD – Nancy Pelosi needs to be concerned less about what others are doing and less about her facial plastic surgeries and botox, – – – – – –
and worry more about her own Soul, and the Souls she has lead into sin by her own example.
At her personal judgment she will have to justify all the lost Souls due to her “Catholic” example of: promoting abortion, and promoting sodomy marriage.
No matter how hard you try, Nancy. You are not beautiful inside or outside. You are evil of your own free will, and have therefore made yourself ugly.
Ms. Pelosi is entirely shameless; she is a person for whom the word “dissembler” was coined. Wealthly, once (and maybe future) politically powerful, and beyond arrogant, Ms. Pelosi is the complete picture of the liberal American woman. Putting her trust in the pursuit of power, and the use of liberal-logic, Ms. Pelosi just cannot get anything right (except for the power part): abortion is not about the life or death of the defenseless, but of control of a woman’s own body (and if speaking with Catholics, then she adopts the Cardinal Bernardin view that abortion or homosexual sexual relations and marriage must be measured against other things to judge the true morality of any holder of public office). Well, Ms. Pelosi, Satan knows scripture very well, but he is not the one for you to fear for your presumptions and blasphemies: “But I will shew you whom you shall fear; fear ye him, who after he hath killed, hath power to cast into hell. Yea, I say to you, fear him.” (Luke 12:5) (DVR).
DHINO Nancy and the rest of the Pelosi-Rat-Pak that nest atop Snob Hill in Sodom by the Sea are amongst the richest and most powerful Demicrat Politicos in the nation. Pelosi – the former “Miss Lube Rack” (yes, look up her photo on line) is part of the Baltimore Patronage Machine sent out west to spread fear of the Gaystapo to the left coast.
Anyone who wants to understand the Pelosicrat Demicrat Machine & the power of the radical leftist / gender feminist / homosex alliance (aka Gaystapo ‘tolerance’ lobby) that fuels it in nexus like Sodom by the Sea – need only look at the blind eye of Censorship turned by the Lamesteam Media to the largest tax subsidized Anti Male hate Riot in the Nation – the Annual Tax Subsidized SF “Dyke March” –
The Next Dyke March is set for June 28, starting from the steps of Mission Dolores Church – from whence it will Gridlock the City and Ban Males from the Public Street – as an act of ‘tolerance’ – without so much as applying for a Permit or Paying any costs.
Oh Michael … Thanks for sharing the date of the SF Dyke March. I have a gig that day and can’t go, but we lesbians really aprpiciate your publisizing the event. I’m always impressed that you know more about what’s going on in the LGBT community than most of us do!
C&H that’s because Michael knows the workings of the enemy.
C&H I’m sorry that you continue to choose a path of darkness. I am praying for your conversion. That is the day, when the beautiful miracles of our Lord will burst into action, a soul is saved, a soul is saved. MORE FOR THE GLORY of God! More for His abundance, more for the correction of all that is hurting our Lord. The birds will sing praises to God for His mercy is unending. Your guardian Angel is waiting for that day too. Till that day comes, you just don’t know what you are missing. Be strong and fight the good fight and fix your eye’s on Jesus!
Abeca .. I suspect my guardian angel thinks some of Michael’s posts are as silly as I do. BTW … My understanding is that we believe conversion is a life long process unlike the Evangelicals who believe that one is saved at a particular moment in time.
C&H your understanding of most things Catholics seems to be wrong….
It’s this Saturday. Have you ever been? You should go.
Males are only banned from marching in it, which has nothing to do with hating males. It’s only to maintain the female identity of one event in a weekend and neighborhood that is overwhelmingly dominated by men. The march itself is small, and if anything, has an atmosphere of community and celebration. It’s fairly brief, and ends with a big, inclusive party at Market/Castro.
Do you feel left out by not being able to march? Why would you want to?
To the extent that it’s tax-subsidized, that’s only true in that it takes place in the midst of a whole weekend of events where huge masses converge on the Mission and Castro, so there’s some related police overtime and Public Works costs, but the City loves it. It’s one of the biggest events for tourism of the year, and has huge crowds with relatively little chaos.
The purpose of a ‘Dyke March’ is to increase lesbian visibility and activism – based upon their own advertised definition.
This is not love of neighbor. It is to promote IMMORAL sexual activity.
The Pelosi family aren’t Italians, but Argentine marranos.
She’s not really Catholic either.
Sometimes you’ve just got to scratch your head and roll your eyes. Words fail me. Imagine a big balloon in Macy’s Thanksgiving Parade bumping against skyscrapers with 300 lb. men struggling to hold it down to keep it from blowing away. A hundred feet long, fifty feet tall, bandy legs with black heels, a 1980 woman’s power suit with pseudo brown hair to make her 73 years look more like 70, a ten foot face stretched taut with cracks begining to show through the makeup…Naughty Nancy, full of hot air….a big plastic What a honey. We can all be thankful we’re not related to her at least, and that she’s not representing our district! Yikes!
The visual you paint sounds like the intro to some not-too-distant dystopian novel, Dana. God willing we can still avoid that future. Yikes is right!
Anne, I simply cannot fathom how this woman has gotten where she has! I would love to make a short film of her life with lots of fast speed and slow mos , pans of papal visits to accepting PP award, etc. the sheer magnitude of her disconnect between her various stances is just breathtaking! Her audacity bordering on the pathological: being a Catholic wife and mother but promoting same sex so-called marriage and abortion, claiming to be Catholic but not even obeying a pope! How can anyone on either side take her seriously or believe anything she says? I’m sorry but I was raised in a time when she would have been totally ostracized by both parties as a kook and someone unfit to govern. She’s cringeworthy on so many levels! It’s mind boggling to think someone of this calibre dares demand anything of such a courageous, faithful bishop. Again, words fail me…finally! Heh heh
Not a bad idea Dana. Perhaps Nancy Pelosi and Hollywood could relate to movie film about the soul of a modern day female version of the ‘Picture of Dorian Gray’. The monetary acquiring of physical beauty and earthly prestige also seems to rule Nancy Pelosi’s choices. One can surely pray that if Nancy were given the opportunity to see a visual self-portrait of her soul as it truly appears to God, that she would then immediately ask for forgiveness and receive that merciful forgiveness for turning away from God and promoting the modern day culture of death. Nancy may currently have the financial means to acquire the best plastic surgeons to try and appear young but no plastic surgeon can remove the effects of habitual mortal sin on the soul and this life is passing.
“Dorian Gray is a very wealthy young man with intoxicating beauty. He is totally reckless and usually drawn to dangerous risks. The character of Dorian Gray is based off of Oscar Wilde’s The Picture of Dorian Gray.
This life philosophy eventually leads to corruption and tragic consequences. His picture gets uglier and uglier after every indecent and wicked act. The portrait serves as a reminder of the sins that weigh upon Dorian’s soul.”
I love how most of the comments here are based on her physical appearance. It is a common theme in all comments on the website. If there is a article about a liberal figure who happens to be female, or identifies as a female, the masses start throwing petty words about her being “ugly”.
You are all speaking in violation of God’s will and commandments. You must repent f your sins and abstain from communion until that occurs.
Yes, Oscar Wilde’s self-portrait, I believe. He really did grow to despise his bi-sexual nature. Life is as fragile as skin on a toad’s belly and as brief as the wink of a groundhog’s eye…and all our thoughts are better spent on eternal things, so I’ve been praying for Mrs. Pelosi and others who always seem to be doing what they can to destroy what is good and beautiful. It’s frustrating, but life is. I believe we’re being paged by an irate but sarcastic poster, Ann Malley…he/she ‘loves’ that we’re always finding fault with the physical attributes of liberal women….isn’t there some sort of law against using sarcasm when expressing love? Better call the thought police! Oh, rats, they’re busy closing down the Washington Redskin brand…busy, busy, busy, always more to do, people to silence.
Demonic disorientation is the word, Dana. I just heard that about the Redskins brand today and, my goodness, it makes me ill. As for having a Dorian Gray portrait, Catherine, I would that we could ALL have one. Better to keep an eye on the reality of our souls. But I think many here would likely just enjoy the fact that only the ‘picture’ would take the hit, missing entirely the reality that it is the soul that matters.
God bless.
Dana and Catherine: It is really disgusting to confuse policy debates with personal attacks on a person’s appearance. Can you please rein in your hatred just a little so that the rest of us don’t have to be accosted with your ugly insults?
Grow a thicker skin, Anonymous. If you are indeed that ‘delicate’, I cannot imagine how you interact with anyone outside of a dream world.
Please reign in your own hatred for the revealed Truth. You know what is disgusting? Anonymous activists who call murder and perversion policy debate. Who are you trying to fool? How about the political orchestrating of the mass wholesale slaughter of the unborn and the promoting of same sex marriage while publicly influencing many and calling oneself a practicing Catholic. There is no debate and there is no hate. There is the Truth which is now referred to as hate by those who clearly reject basic decency, morality and teachings of the Catholic Church. I clearly remember reading how Our Lord asked one of the very beautiful saints, who initially loved to focus on her beauty, “How beautiful do you think you will be a few hours after your death?” Our Lord’s words resonated so profoundly with this woman and that is why she became a saint.
HOW CAN I OVERCOME THE ROOT SIN OF VANITY?
https://spiritualdirection.com/blog/2011/01/06/how-can-i-overcome-the-root-sin-of-vanity
“…There is the Truth which is now referred to as hate by those who clearly reject basic decency, morality and teachings of the Catholic Church.”
Anonymous, if he/she responds, Catherine, will likely level an, “I have no idea what you’re talking about.” But I understand and appreciate you speaking the truth, Catherine.
Thank you for pointing to what is truly ugly here.
The SF Chronicle, which has published in the past Warnings to Males – Not to be in the area during the Takeover, now Censors the term D.YK.E, although they also use it in their stories, sometimes – when the PC mood is right…
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/slideshow/21st-Annual-Dyke-March-65501/photo-4857667.php
That photo gallery is roughly as intimidating as a basket of kittens.
Ahh Yes – a basket of cuddly kittens – or gangs of vicious Bulls on Hogs using their Dyke Bikes as weapons against pedestrians of the Pork-Byproduct variety.
Having the video of the latter in action – I didn’t see a kitty in the coven.
San Francisco Dyke March 2002 Official Statement
This grass roots activist event has neither a permit nor the city’s blessing, but nobody’s worried:
The parade draws women by the tens of thousands, and there’s nothing the city can do. Unlike Sunday’s official pride parade, the march has no corporate sponsors, no leadership hierarchy, and no guys, save for the few supportive fellows cheering from the sidelines…
the march is a return to raw, in-your-face activism…
the crowd of women takes over the Mission Quadrant, with Dykes on Bikes leading the Charge…
The 2000 San Francisco Dyke March Website clearly states the requirement for Men to be allowed in the streets when it says:
“It’s okay for men to march, but they must first complete two thousand years of evolution”
Enough advertising the Dyke march.
Maddie Said: “Enough advertising the Dyke march.”
It is Not about advertising the largest tax subsidized Anti-Male Hate Riot in the nation – but rather pointing out the extreme double-SStandard of the Demicrat Gaystapo Alliance Machine supporting it and its manifestly illegal behaviors / treatment of citizens…
Aw Maddie … Michael is such a good promoter of it. He enjoys writing about it and we appriciate it. I’ll bet the turnout is higher than last year, Besides … Girls just wanna have fun!”
“Besides … Girls just wanna have fun!” Now that’s truly yuck, C&H. Ewww :(
Having been to the Dyke March a number of times, I’m having a hard time finding any trace of reality in Michael’s impression of it. It’s amusing to see such a vehement opposition to something so benign. It really is phobia, because the response is so out of scale that it’s like unmitigated terror of ants or elevators.
For one thing, even if the attendance is in the tens of thousands, which is inflated, it takes place in the midst of Pink Saturday, a Mardi Gras-style party with a crowd of well over 100k, so it’s still a needle in a haystack.
The only violence that has EVER even been vaguely associated was an unrelated gang killing in the Castro on the same night in 2010.
So what exactly is so threatening? Unless Michael is there with Fred Phelps-style signs, no will notice or care about his presence.
Michael is obviously just freaked out about lesbians, because, they are indifferent to his glorious masculinity?
Maybe he should just attend with an open mind and realize that the people are quite nice. And it’s all just a fun summer day.
Compare – oh ever credulous Lurkers on this board, the serious restrictions / costs placed by the City on everything from the ‘March for Life’ (regularly attacked by the Gaystapo) to ‘Bay to Breakers’ – with its heavy Policing of the route and behaviors along it…
With Lesbians Using Motorcycles as Offensive Weapons to clear the streets of Pork Byproduct lifeforms (Males) and violently seizing control of intersections by ‘Bulls on Hogs / Dykes on Bikes’ enforcing the rules of the Twysted Systerhood – who even the Frisco Police are so afraid of they hide out in their Mission HQ (along the takeover route) or flee like the Iraqi Army.
Dyke VIolence (experienced first hand repeatedly), as well as substance fueled abuse and a huge mess left behind – blends in with the failure by the City / Police to Placard the route, and leaves many motorists stuck in an unannounced gridlock that provides a field day to criminals of all orders – who count on the gridlock to thwart police response to crimes.
In 2004 there was a Murder during the height of the Dyke Hate Riot, and the culprit was cornered by civilians – as the Police could not move on the public streets to make arrests.
If your point is that street events require additional police presence, you are right. Most of them return more to the city in tourism dollars than they city pays out. I would be willing to bet that Pride in SF generates tens of millions in tax revenue than it costs the city to staff it. Ditto for Bay to Breakers*, even though it is a drunken mess. But in fact, I was recently told by a taxi driver that the rowdiest weekend and the one he hated the most was Saint Patrick’s Day parade. He said none of the others even compare.
* It happened that one recent Bay to Breakers, we had to take my partner’s father to the emergency room. The amount of alcohol in the air in the ER waiting room was probably enough to intoxicate the rest of us. It was certainly a sterile environment.
Supporting you all the way to Washington Archbishop Cordileone. You are a TRUE SHEPHERD AND A TRUE SON OF MARY. May God bless and protect you along with Saint Michael and all the angels and saints.
As for Pelosi (my friend insists 20 years of botox has damaged her brain) and the other “leaders” – LOL – Lord, forgive them, they know not what they do.
Looking forward to the day we have a March for Marriage in SF. Let’s not leave it too long!
I support you too Archbishop Cordileone.
Wish I could afford to be at the march with you.
May God bless, protect, and keep you always.
Marriage as God designed it, between one man and one woman
as long as they both shall live.
1 Cor 6:9-10; Rom: 1:24-27; 1 Tim 1:10;
Mk 10:6-12
Ms. Pelosi,
How ARROGANT to call the City of San Francisco ‘ours’!
As a 4th generation I certainly don’t want people to think that people such as yourself were born and raised in the City of St. Francis! You are one of many, who very sadly, have ‘hijacked’ the beautiful City that my family and other decent families help build!
Perhaps you should go back to where you were born? Baltimore Maryland.
And everyone, please pray for the Archbishop, he has such a LARGE SHIP to turn around… there has been many decades of people asleep at the helm whom were using automatic pilot.
You guys VOTED Heretic Pelosi into national office.
And unleashed her on the rest of the Country.
Not all of us.
God bless and protect Archbishop Cordileone for standing up for marriage between one man and one woman, and protecting those who would practice sodomy from themselves. It is a very dangerous and disease ridden practice, and so-called same-sex “marriage” only encourages it.
Diabolical disorientation is what this is all about. Archbishop Niederauer praised Pelosi, and he also gave Holy Communion to men dressed up as ladies. This is an outrage. Now there is an archbishop who is defending Catholic morality, and all Hell brakes loose. Yes, we must pray, do penance and fast so that no harm comes to this archbishop. May God bless and protect Archbishop Cordileone from Satan and the evil stooges who promote immorality and unnatural acts!
Homosexualist, abortionist, Pelosi-Catholics are not Catholics. Self-identifying oneself as Catholic does not make one Catholic any more than self-identifying myself as shortstop for the New York Yankees makes me so.
Nancy,
Take a look at the debunking of these 10 sodomite myths below. In particular pay attention to Sodomite Myth No. 8, addressing the very real danger sodomites pose to children.
http://www.tinyurl.com/10SodomiteMyths
Pelosi does not care.
I’m sure Pelosi is well aware of the FRC’s antics as a hate-group.
Faithful disciples of Saul Alinsky always respond to inconvenient facts with personal attacks such as “hate group”, “racist”, et al.
Clearly you meant lies, Jeurg, and all lies, such as those developed by FRC – which you continue to post – deserve to be revealed for what they are: visceral hate. That is what the FRC is all about, and why FRC has been designated a hate group. I find it amazing that Cal-Cath permits itself to be used as an instrument for the promulgation of hate by continuing to allow you to post such blatant garbage . . .
You are leftist Peter, when facts don’t fit your view just scream .”hate, racist, homophobe etc” guess what, were not buying it….
One man’s ‘hate’ is another ‘man’s charity, peter. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So it is no wonder that those you align yourself with those who believe that the FRC is a hate group. The lovers of sodomy would naturally dismiss those pitted firmly against it.
That said, Cal-Cath permits itself to be a voice of reason and Catholic truth in reporting that which is against the Church, the Faith, and common sense. But in charity, they allow the publishing of comments even by those vociferously advocating against God’s law, the laws of the Church, and even nature itself. Go figure.
My reference to Saul Alinsky hit a nerve, eh?
peter writes….”i find it amazing that Cal-Cath permits itself to be used as an instrument for the promulgation of hate by continuing to allow you to post such blatant garbage . . .”
One of the many reasons that you find CCD amazing peter is that a compromised board of psychiatrists lied to you about homosexuality being a mental disorder. Now YOU have become a slave-like instrument of promulgating hatred for God and perpetuating more lies in order to even justify mocking God. That psychiatric board ruling was a major catalyst of promulgating blatant garbage peter because it deceived you and allowed you and many others to think that it is normal to think that you can somehow change God’s revealed truth. What is even more telltale in your own showcasing of this particular mental disorder is that homosexual activists even ignore reality and call themselves faithful Catholics while mocking God in the name of God. Sadly peter that kind of logic does not amaze us because that illogical behavior stems from disordered thinking. The good news IS God’s revealed truth. Accept this good news in trust or completely reject it in the name of promulgating perversions that greatly offend God.. The free will choice is yours. You have the free will to ask God for the grace to serve Him first. No one is suggesting that this disorder is not a cross peter but crosses are not permission slips to promulgate more disorder. That is what you are doing. You resent it because you are not being lied to on CCD. ……continued
counted from June 8, 2014 at 9:39 am
peter, Your behavior of posting and thinking IS a mental disorder. Very few websites have the courage to not perpetuate the lies that you have been told and slavishly cling to. CCD is striving to uphold “all” Catholic teaching. Of course you will at this particular time still choose to deny this reality because that is tragically part of the mental disorder when one habitually rejects God’s revealed truths and seeks to only serve a mental disorder. One may lead a horse to water peter but no one can make that horse drink the truth, especially when that horse has become so very comfortable with drinking tainted lies that support their disorder. God’s revealed truth is *ordered* and no lie can ever replace Almighty God’s ordered and revealed truth. CCD is in essence showing you the true dignity that God intended for each and every one of us no matter what our individual struggles may be. What a great compliment peter to not be lied to by CCD as you have been lied to by so many. That is real love even though you are still rejecting that love at this particular time.
Pelosi’s Catholic Dioseize
(FRC – The Family Research Council Targeted by the Gaystapo and their morally impoverished Gunslingers)
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has never cared much for U.S. law, so what makes anyone think she’d care about God’s?
The self-described Catholic has put herself on the opposite side of church teaching for years — rejecting doctrine on “inconvenient” issues like abortion, premarital sex, contraception, and same-sex “marriage.” Now apparently, it’s not enough that Pelosi makes a mockery of Catholicism — she wants the San Francisco diocese to join her.
In a scathing rebuke of orthodox Catholicism, Rep. Pelosi, who last year won Planned Parenthood’s highest honor, had the audacity to lecture her hometown Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone on the irrelevance of natural marriage…
Fortunately, Archbishop Cordileone — who heads up the U.S. Bishops’s committee on marriage, isn’t easily swayed — especially by a woman already in the church’s poor standing.
Last fall, Cardinal Raymond Burke denied communion to Pelosi for her outspoken support for abortion. “I fear for Congresswoman Pelosi,” he said, “if she does not come to understand how gravely in error she is.”
drew.hammill@mail.house.gov <Please share with Nancy Pelosi……
Marriage is between one man and one woman……natural law and God's law. Pelosi's opinion will change neither. The Archbishop of San Francisco is our and "her" Shepherd here on earth…..it will bode well for her that she follows him in proclaiming that Marriage is between one man and one woman for the procreation, protection and safety of the children from that union and for society as a whole. She knows this is true….but she chooses to worry more about her "politics" rather than her judgment day before Our Lord. I wouldn't want to be standing in her shoes on that day. We pray that Pelosi finds her way back to her Father and Holy Mother Catholic Church before its too late.
Archbishop Cordileone has responded with a letter:
It is on the Archdiocese of San Francisco website or here:
https://www.zenit.org/en/articles/archbishop-cordileone-explains-why-he-s-participating-in-thursday-s-march-for-marriage
The more one compromises with MORTAL SINNERs the more they will want from you. They are never finished, until they own your Soul. – Worshipping the god of baal.
Looks like Gramma needs money for the fall campaign from one of her richest sources.
Will priests now stop giving Holy Communion to Nancy Pelosi?
Joel,
It is my understanding that at least twice AB Niederhauer told her NOT receive Our Good Lord in Holy Communion.
However, I would not ‘bet the farm’ that she listened. I pray she did, but just would not ‘bet the farm’.
Elizabeth, your understanding was incorrect.
When any Diocese Bishop enforces Canon 915, he immediately tells all the Priests within his own Diocese,
and in the case of elected officials he should tell the Washington DC or State Capital Diocese as appropriate, so those Bishops can alert their Priests.
There are no excuses, especially for someone as notorious as Heretic Pelosi.
Ab Niederaurer on Pelosi ” Let me acknowledge even as I do so that Speaker Pelosi is a gifted, dedicated and accomplished public servant, and that she has stated often her love for her faith and for the Catholic Church. ”
“we should be cautious when making judgments about whether or not someone else should receive Holy Communion.”
https://www.zenit.org/en/articles/archbishop-niederauer-on-pelosi-s-abortion-remarks
Not only did Niederauer NOT enforce Canon 915, endangering her Soul and the Souls of the uncatechised, but he also allowed her to continue receiving Holy Communion while in the state of Mortal Sin – SACRILEGE.
If he does not publically repent of his scandalous sin, he is going to Hell.
Niederauer is nothing more than a Democrat who puts his politics first, above God.
Code of Canon Law –
” Can. 915 Those who have been excommunicated or interdicted after the imposition or declaration of the penalty and others obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to holy communion.”
or
” Can. 1399 In addition to the cases established here or in other laws, the external violation of a divine or canonical law can be punished by a just penalty only when the special gravity of the violation demands punishment and there is an urgent need to prevent or repair scandals.”
“Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition” – – –
CCC: ” 2286 Scandal can be provoked by laws or institutions, by fashion or opinion.
Therefore, they are guilty of scandal who establish laws or social structures leading to the decline of morals and the corruption of religious practice,
or to social conditions that, intentionally or not, make Christian conduct and obedience to the Commandments difficult and practically impossible.
This is also true of business leaders who make rules encouraging fraud, teachers who provoke their children to anger, or manipulators of public opinion who turn it away from moral values. “
George Niederauer (a true follower of Joseph Bernardin) – cares more about the Democratic Party than saving Souls.
The mortal sins of Sacrilege and Scandal meant nothing to him, as long as his Democratic buddies got elected to do their damage to society.
I can not even bring myself to calling him Archbishop Emeritus of the Catholic Church.
He had only praise for Heretic Pelosi.
Intolerant– wealthy— hypocrite
If Cordeloone fails to square off with this charlatan, he will pay a personal price.
Abp. Cordelenone—Make a public display of calling her into your office, educate her, tell her that as a public figure she cannot mislead the Faithful. Give her a choice to be a Catholic or a sleazy politician.
My bet is that she will continue to be a sleazy DEM, just like most Catholic bishops.
I wonder if Pelosi and company remember that Pontius Pilate was a politician.
Archbishop Cordileone’s letter is excellent! However, promoters of Traditional Marriage always leave one thing out– they must vigorously teach and preach against the current horrible sin of pre-marital sex! Sex belongs ONLY in Traditional Marriage! PERIOD!! Also, the clergy must teach people strongly, that life is NOT a childish “hippie amusement park,” of constant, degrading, lawless, immature and immoral ” entertainments,” especially narcissistic, selfish, “entertainments,” of Mortal Sin! Life is NOT a gift to be ABUSED by drugs, filthy, loud, violent rock and roll “music,” pre-marital sex, pornography, and many other horrible, criminal fads and fashions, of the modern, post-1960s “hippie culture!” Everyone hopelessly entrapped in the sick, post-1960s “hippie culture,” needs to be extricated from this horrible situation, and taught the Virtues of Chastity, Modesty, selfless Charity, and Self-Control, as well as strength (especially for the men!) to lead a very good life, and to BE STRONG, when temptations occur for them!! BE STRONG, AND PRAY!! DON’T BE A WEAK COWARD!! GROW UP, AND BE A MAN!!! AVOID TEMPTATION, DEVELOP GOOD CHARACTER, AND RESOLVE TO LEAD A GOOD LIFE!! NO PRE-MARITAL SEX!! NO GAY SEX ACTS!! NO PORNOGRAPHY!! NO!! NO!! NO!! MORTA SIN!! NO!! PERIOD!!
You are right Linda Marie.
Everything you have stated is included in the “Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition”.
So how do we get everyone to read it ?
What’s with Deacon Greg Kandra (?), one wonders. To him, the March for Marriage is “controversial,” and he says the event’s objective is to “draw thousands of supporters of what they call ‘traditional marriage’ to walk from the U.S Capitol to the Supreme Court.”
This is the politically correct inversion of reality. It’s “same-sex marriage” which IN FACT is controversial, of course — and worse. And “what they call ‘traditional marriage’…” is IN FACT traditional marriage, as opposed to the perversely counterfeited, culturally and societally destructive version called “same-sex marriage.”
Wealthy homosexuals, most Democratic politicians (and their appointed judges), and radical homosexuals have made MARRIAGE between one man and one woman (as stated in the Bible) controversial within a short period of time.
They want to control everyone’s freedom of speech, and control who has the right to assemble.
They want to become the thought police, infecting every part of society.
Their ultimate goal is “equal rights” to the children of others for their sexual gratification. Make no mistake. All these “rights” the sodomites are clamoring for are mere stepping stones to their ultimate goal of legal access to boys.
I’m definitely not after access to boys. You are factually incorrect and your statement would be defamatory if directed at any individual person. This is sin.
You have been brainwashed to believe that all gay people are raging monsters who want to prey on your children. It is very sad. My deepest hope is that you get the opportunity to meet and learn about individual gay people, I think you will find they are not objectionable.
Perhaps your child, or grandchild, will be gay. Or a close friend’s child. When I came out, everyone on my street thought gays were the devil incarnate. With time, these people were able to critically consider what they had been lead to believe and realized that I was the exact same person they knew before others knew that I was gay.
Now, I am happy to report, they understand that the conservative political rhetoric is incorrect. While I can’t speak as to their spiritual beliefs, they have never shown anything but love and respect to me. But, if I had to wager a guess, I think many have softened in the hard line opposition to the concept of homosexuality. The scripture is anything but clear, despite simlistic and questionable interpretations.
NAMBLA
Well Juergenson… I’ve got all the boys I want. A great dad and a bunch wonderful brothers + one brother’s fabulous husband of 30 years. Also a great, very macho crew at my catering business and last but not least my pastor and the men in our parish. They all loved Helen and were towers of strength when she got sick. Why you and McDermott have a need to paint us as ugly, evil persons is beyond me. Canusius I can understand. He had a traumatic experience with two lesbians and I pray he recovers from it, but you two, why is our little community such a big deal to you? Oh…..BTW … It was lesbians who first saw NAMBLA for what it is and led the movement to exclude it from the LGBT community
C&H, You may think that you have all of the boys that you need but your many unfaithful posts certainly show that you do not have all of the graces that you need or else you would not be *catering* so eagerly to your own self-destruction.
CCD is a faithful Catholic website. You are the individual who insists on painting yourself in a very unflattering way. Perhaps you are just another troll with a made up story line in order to promote same sex attraction and same sex acts as simply being just another alternative. Also, a faithful pastor would never encourage or support your many posts that undermine Church teaching. If it is actually true that there was a person named Helen who is now deceased then it appears by your many unfaithful posts that you would not even listen to Helen if she were allowed to return from the dead to warn you that you are currently offending God. A faithful person would want to do everything in their power to please God instead of teaching people how to acquire information so that they may commit mortal sin and avoid STD’s. If your story about Helen is true, I hope that she was able to have a priest hear her confession before she died. If your story about Helen is true then you should also want to spend your eternity with God instead of risking your soul to spend an eternity in hell with those who also chose to repeatedly offend God.
Catherine….. I don’t have a great understanding of grace. Do I get it for being thankful to God for the men in my life which was what this post was about? I don’t know if a website can be faithful. Only people can. Am I as faithful as I could be? No. Among other things I constantly struggle to appreciate the mass and not let my mind wander. I try to be faithful as I understand it. Ann tries to be faithful according to her understanding. Obviously you and others here disagree with both our understandings.
As for my posts here, I think what I’ve mostly tried to argue that nasty hostility towards all LGBT people isn’t Catholic. That’s kind of a basic, right out of the CCC as well as other teachings of the Church. I don’t believe the SF Archbishop should have shared a platform with some of the fundamentalist Protestants at that rally. As a faithful Catholic I think I have a right to say that and in fact I’m sure the Archbishop would agree that I do. The one Church teaching I do struggle with is that all homosexual acts are always in each and every case, absolutely sinful. As I’ve said, right now, that isn’t “operationally” an issue for me. I suspect many on this forum also have Church teachings they struggle with. Again I’d refer to Ann who has also been uncharitably criticized for her beliefs.
C&H, You wrote, “I don’t have a great understanding of grace. ”
Taken from Catholic Bible 101
“So what is grace, and how do we get more of it? We are very blessed in the Catholic Church because our priests dispense sanctifying grace each and every day to the faithful in the sacraments, especially Holy Communion and Confession. In this very busy and lustful world that we live in today, there is a need for more and more grace in our lives if we want to overcome the evil one and get to heaven. Grace is an absolute necessity in our day-to-day activities. But how many people realize that? How many people live out their existence and never even once ask God to send more grace? Grace is a free gift from God to man. There is nothing man can do to merit grace, because it is a gift, after all. Faith is also a free gift AND a response to grace – From the Catechism:
#162: Faith is an entirely free gift that God makes to man.
#166: “Faith is a personal act – the free response of the human person to the initiative of God who reveals himself.”
In the Bible, St. Paul is struggling with personal sin, in 2 Corinthians 12:7-10: “And to keep me from being too elated by the abundance of revelations, a thorn was given me in the flesh, a messenger of Satan, to harass me, to keep me from being too elated.
We feel the responsibility to correct error and false belief.
Morality is not a matter of belief. Something doesn’t become moral just because a person does not see anything wrong with it. As for Ann, the same thing applies. Churches don’t become Catholic just because someone wants them to be. These are objective truths.
I am sorry for your loss. This is the first time you have used your partner’s name. I hope that is a sign of healing. It takes a long time and it is a lonely path. Please know that our prayers and love are with you. No matter how heated things get here, it is not a lack of charity that inspires people. They may lose their tempers, get impatient and say things that they shouldn’t, but the motivation is based on wanting everyone to be pleasing to God, to live a holy life and to get to Heaven.
continued from June 21, 2014 at 11:51 am
“From the above statement of Paul, we see that God gives each one us sufficient grace to overcome sin, even when it seems like we are struggling with overcoming sin. And when we are the weakest, that is when we are the strongest, because that’s when God’s power is made perfect in us. How many people, when things get so bad in their lives, fall down on their knees in tears and ask God to fix things? A lot, and that is exactly what God means when he says “my power is made perfect in weakness.” The acknowledgment of God as our loving Father over our own strength and power is the beginning of our relationship with God, and the beginning of the end of our pride. The prideful and strong who are always in charge of their affairs never do this, so God can’t work in them as powerfully as someone who is humble and acknowledges God in their distress.”
C&H, It is one thing to struggle with certain teachings but as you just read it is important for each and every one of us to ask God daily for the special graces to overcome different trials….. continued
continued from June 21, 2014 at 2:30 pm
C&H, You may also pray daily to the Holy Ghost to ask for the grace of wisdom. This wisdom would guide you to view things quite differently but it takes a great desire to continually ask for that grace. Then you would really have your work cut out for you because you could only “cater” to the fullness of truth as St. Paul was given the grace to do.
kanonymous, You are not telling the complete truth. You even defended the homosexual activists who posted about CCD on their anti-Catholic homosexual website. You quietly stood by and never felt the responsibility to assail MarkfromPA, YFC, peter and other homosexual activists who consistently posted error like you have assailed Ann. You rightfully have charity and compassion for the passing of Helen (if true) yet you suddenly become interested in sounding completely faithful when assailing and correcting posters who are able to post exactly what the Church teaches. No compassion to reach out in charity for those whose faith was very damaged by the unfaithful actions and examples of bad men. Is it sad that they left k? Yes, it is because they too are our brothers and sisters in Christ. Your duplicitous fidelity does not help you to sound very believable. Before Ann Malley ever posted on CCD you undermined even those who have never attended a SSPX Mass or a Mass at an independent chapel. Your ambiguous and undermining posts were *always and exclusively* regarding the topic of homosexuality. Your posting actions are the very actions which have helped to scatter the flock. k, You wrote earlier that bishops don’t have the power to scatter. You cannot be serious or taken serious if you truly think that. Does a physically or sexually abusive or terribly spiritually neglectful father or husband have the power to drive his children away from home? Reach out in the same charity! …. continued
k, We are all praying for a reconciliation with the SSPX but before you lash out and single out Ann Malley or others who do defend “all” Church teaching please read the many different passages in Sacred Scripture about what Our Lord says about shepherds who scatter the flock and wolves in sheep’s clothing.
Anonymous writes: “…As for Ann, the same thing applies. Churches don’t become Catholic just because someone wants them to be. These are objective truths.”
Thank you. That is precisely why ‘objectively’ speaking that which is Catholic cannot somehow be relegated as outside the Catholic Church, Anonymous. This matter concerns objective truth not personal opinion and certainly not one of my construct or yours. Or even C&H’s with regard to her particular issues.
That which is Catholic doesn’t somehow become anti-Catholic or un-Catholic based on erroneous opinion either. Neither does that which is anti-Catholic suddenly become Catholic based on the introduction of ambiguity or improper catechesis or novelty.
As the saying goes, a rose by any other name would smell as sweet. The same holds for error only the smell is not good. That is not opinion, Anonymous, but reality. That is why the Church must stand for that which She has always stood for, Truth, whole and entire. If not, the confusion will only continue to the detriment of many.
Apparently my post to C&H caused some confusion. Especially in me, because I don’t know what either of you are talking about. But in the only thing that seems to make any sense to me:
People make choices. Someone else’s behavior-like an abusive father- does not make the person make the choice. Someone can decide to leave home because their father is abusive. The consequences of that choice is that they will not see their mother or their siblings. They cannot say that it is their father’s fault that they don’t see their mother or siblings. It’s not. It is their decision. Now, if the person could not enter the home without being threatened with a weapon, yes. If the person just does not want to see the father, then, no. If the person is just afraid that they will have to deal with something they don’t want to deal with, it’s on them.
People need to take responsibility for their choices. Sometimes, people make bad choices. Sometimes other people facilitate their bad choices. No one could go to a pseudo-Catholic Church unless false shepherds or wolves in sheep’s clothing hadn’t established them. The big lie of the pro-choice people is that people will always make bad decisions and having clinics makes it safer to do so.
Being able to take personal responsibility is part of being a mature adult. So is not suporting other people’s excuses for their bad behavior.
I don’t what the homosexuality references meant but it falls into the same category. Take responsibility for yourself. It does not matter whether you are born that way or not. If you commit mortal sins and you do not repent, you are going to hell and none of your excuses will work to keep you out. The only thing that works is repentance and trying to avoid the sin. The Catholic Church is infallible on matters of faith and morals. Just obey it. It’s not that hard. Of course the same is true for being mean and bearing false witness and every other sin.
Here is the thing-I do not want to say anything about any person who writes on this blog. It is true of everyone: to uphold Church teaching, you have to know Church teaching. And you have to accept Church teaching. And you can’t be led down the yellow brick road by things that sound good or look good or please your idiosyncrasies. There is one, holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. And you can’t be led by the nose because someone is vocal in support of one Church teaching and assume that they are loyal to it all when in fact they are not. Be your own Catholic expert. Don’t follow anyone but Jesus. Know the Faith.
I can’t give any of you permission to do evil, but I am resigned that no amount of correction will stop you. May God have mercy on you, forgive you your sins and bring you to everlasting life.
“I can’t give any of you permission to do evil, but I am resigned that no amount of correction will stop you.”
kananonymous, k, We are also resigned to the truth that homosexual activists will attempt every underhanded ploy to undermine the Catholic Faith. It was not Ann Malley or myself or anyone else who gave you the evil permission to cleverly undermine Father Guarnizo’s reputation for denying Holy Communion to a lesbian activist. Please remind yourself of the reality that this was *your choice.* This good and faithful priest was simply following Catholic Church teaching. Father Guarnizo is not a SSPX priest or a priest who is associated with an independent parish but you certainly felt an activist’s responsibility and you took the time to plant a troublemaking comment which then painted this faithful priest in a very bad light to unsuspecting readers.
Physician, heal thyself in matters of addressing fidelity for you are not as clever as you think.
Anne Malley, I cannot decipher your post at all. I think you are using the word Catholic to mean something other than what we are speaking about. This is a matter of fact: a chapel that has not been established by the local ordinary of the Catholic Church (the bishop) is not a Catholic Church.
Priests who say Masses in these chapels are suspended Catholic priests. The Masses are illicit.
These are not matters of opinion.
The fallout of what is licit or illicit is not yours to decipher, Anonymous, as Catholic saints have been persecuted throughout Church history by ‘lawful’ authority. That said, your response indicates that you do indeed retain the capacity to decipher my previous post. Much like you have the ability to decipher the capacity of Shepherds within the Church to scatter the flock, something they still do as evidenced by the supposed ‘common error’ of those you accept as being within the Church.
And, no, these are not matters of opinion, but observable reality. A reality you seem to willfully ignore. Why? I cannot say. But indulging the introduction of seemingly understandable ‘common error’ within the Church is in itself an error as those inside the Church will be scattered as to their Faith. That is they will believe that they believe, but what they will hold in their hearts will not be the Truth. But that seems acceptable to you, at least judging by what you post.
And so the encouragement of error within carries on, but to what conclusion? A lack of Faith prior to the Second Coming.
Anonymous writes: “…I can’t give any of you permission to do evil, but I am resigned that no amount of correction will stop you.”
It is not up to you to dispense permission to anyone, Anonymous. You overestimate your position. And you underestimate, in the extreme, your ability to scatter and confuse by your odd interpretation of faithfulness.
Holding to what the Church has always taught – that is the holding of tradition in obvious time of crisis – is in no way comparable to the insidious attempts to change doctrine by preaching a different gospel. Specifically, in this case, that of desensitizing the faithful about the disordered nature of homosexual sexual relations which is precisely what you are attempting to do.
Deacon Kandra turned me off years ago for what I perceived to be less than orthodox commentary. According to his website he writes for AMERICA and U.S. CATHOLIC publications – neither of which has ever been accused of being orthodox.
The reference to “miss lube rack” is a myth per snoops website, let’s get our facts straight on the good side of the discussion. Amazing letter by the Bishop to the congress woman.
But Ms Botox and Plastic Surgery face is not.
A 74 year old hypocrite and heretic and schismatic – through and through.
The name is Snopes, not “Snoops”. That said, Snopes is a leftist website notorious for its bias toward Democrats and against Republicans. Negative rumors about Democrats are almost never ever true, but those about Republicans almost always are! Google “leftist bias at Snopes” and see for yourself.
Another sodomite in action …
https://cbsloc.al/1mRMTJy
Lol, I suppose all I need to do then is post a link to every priest who sexually abused a child as proof that all Cathlics are child molesters.
Juergensen, you demonstrate a special kind of viciousness that is free of any grace.
@ “Anonymous”:
Is God “vicious” for destroying Sodom and Gomorrah and promising “ETERNAL FIRE” for unrepentant sodomites? (Jude 1:7)
Pelosi is acting in the spirit of Jezebel! Ahab the “gay” activists in today’s modern days, turn to Pelosi.
March de Triomphe! (FRC)
Whoever said the marriage debate was over must not have been anywhere near the U.S. Capitol this morning.
After months of hearing the courts’ opinion on marriage, today America heard from the voters those courts trampled. Thousands of people from states all across the country descended on Washington, D.C. to show the nation that we care about protecting marriage and will do anything to stand up and fight for it. Pro-family groups like FRC, churches, state activists, and cultural leaders gathered on the lawn of the most powerful Congress in the world and sent one resounding message: the fight for marriage is not over.
More than 150 buses, filled with the marriage supporters the media insists do not exist, cheered through the passionate speeches of Republicans and Democrats, blacks and Hispanics, and the young and old — all united in the belief that marriage is “our very nature. No law can change it.”
Senator Rick Santorum, Governor Mike Huckabee, the Catholic Church’s Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone, and leaders from across the Hispanic and African American communities rallied the crowd with the reminder that we are not marching for a cause that’s lost. “You want a social program that cannot fail?” asked Reverend Eugene Rivers, “Support traditional marriage and the family.”
Interesting part of the Archbishop’s speech at today’s poorly attended march:
“let us not forget: we must also proclaim this truth especially with love for those who disagree with us on this issue, and most of all, for those who are hostile toward us. We must be careful, though, not to paint our opponents on this issue with broad strokes. There is a tendency in our culture to do this to groups of people the powerful don’t know and think they don’t like. We must not do that. We must recognize that there are people on the other side of this debate who are of good will and are sincerely trying to promote what they think is right and fair. It is misdirected good will. But even those from whom we suffer retribution – and I know some of you have suffered in very serious ways because of your stand for marriage – still, we must love them. That is what our ancestors in faith did, and we must, too. Yes, it is easy to become resentful when you are relentlessly and unfairly painted as a bigot and are punished for publicly standing by the basic truth of marriage as a foundational societal good; it is tempting to respond in kind. Don’t. For those of us who are Catholic, we just heard our Master command us in the gospel proclaimed at Mass the day before yesterday: “love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you” (Mt 5:44). We must not allow the angry rhetoric to co-opt us into a culture of hate.”
We are already a culture of hate, you and Peter have proven that….
You are right, unfortunately, Canisius.
Yes I know and the hate spews from the homo-sex Left
YFC since you are not a practicing Catholic, we can not help you understand exactly what our Archbishop means with those words. They are not as you see them for your eyes are not fixed on Jesus and if this helps his excellency better deal with the enemy, then so be it. But know this, charity is gift, if we are being charitable, it is not to give you lead way into heresy nor to condone evil and wicked lifestyles, but it is just simply charity, mercy, something to give the sinner a chance to repent but never to condone nor to make it easy either…its all done in love which many homosexuals do not understand just yet, as long as they continue in their error on sexuality, then they will not ever understand. Many who embrace homosexual lifestyles, many do not see the error of their ways, sometimes making it impossible for them to embrace true charity when its there for them to mercifully embrace. In fact the saints have warned the faithful that it is very hard for those who practice homosexual lifestyles, to leave those sinful lifestyles, its very hard to leave and it surely does break a loving honest relationship with God!
And there were about 30 homosexuals trying to disrupt the speakers.
We don’t interrupt their homosexual parades, why don’t they want others to have freedom of speech and the right to assemble.
Let them have their own marches and rallies, and leave everyone else alone.
For clarification, thousands = less than 2,000.
You can watch the Marriage March speeches at the NOM website and the last speaker, Mike Huckabee, is absolutely incredible! What he says about the judicial branch should be the first priority of pro-life and pro-family groups everywhere…it is through the courts that all these hate groups like the gblt/hold the mayo , p.p. ()
Et al, etc. are having their way. As he pointed and we’ve said many times here, what hitler did was”legal” because the courts made it legal. And the gay blade living in the WH is busily appointing more homosexual judges as fast as ever he can. Imagine President Clinton appointing only sexy, beautiful blondes?! Or Bush only Methodists? Anyway, as one feisty black pastor put it, speak out, go to jail, one man, one woman!
Rev. William Owens certainly was feisty. He is the president of the National Organization for Marriage’s front organization known as the Coalition of African-American Pastors. His speech didn’t really make much sense. The fact that he declared “that the fight AGAINST gay marriage is the modern civil rights movement” gives testimony to the fact that the only intended purpose of the Coalition of African-American Pastors is to create a political wedge between gays and racial minorities – one of NOM’s stated key strategies in their loosing battle to undermine marriage.
It also proves the the Abp Cordileone was being disingenous when he wrote that the march wasn’t anti-LGBT or anti anything. It was obviously a march against gay marriage despite his dissembling.
Being ‘for’ true marriage is inherently being against homosexual marriage, YFC. That being said, what does your perpetual advocating for same sex marriage/relationships say about your calling yourself a fellow Catholic?
And God love us, a properly formed Catholic should be against elevating disordered sexual relationships to the level of marriage.
6. Isn’t marriage just about love and commitment between two people?
Of course love and commitment are important for marriage – as they are for many relationships. But marriage is unique because the commitment it calls for is better described as communion, where “the two become one flesh” (Gen 2:24). Only a man and a woman in marriage can become a “one flesh” communion. The unity of husband and wife is so intimate that from it can come a “third,” the child – a new life to be welcomed and raised in love. No other relationship, no matter how loving or committed, can have this unique form of commitment – communion – that exists in marriage, between a husband and a wife.
Marriage Unique for a Reason
We’ll, I’ll say one thing, pete, your response certainly reveals the inner workings of your mind! I could almost hear the wheels grinding crrrrreeeeaaak…..chugagachugachug…kakakakauguguga gasp…front…hissspop..intended purpose..brrrrrrom….political wedge….chug chug chug..It must be so comforting to be riding the rhetoric of a political machine. Phew! Anyone smell gas?
If you cannot treat people with respect even when commanded to by God then how good of a Christian are you? I tell you, these men have struggles that you can’t even begin to fathom. You can only jeer at a person who needs to hear the Gospel. The Gospel is this: Jesus Christ died so that sins could be forgiven, not so that you can feel superior to someone who has a heavier cross than you. Stop entertaining yourself with other people’s troubles and stop trying to show off how clever you are. The serpent is the most clever of animal.
I’m truly sorry if I sounded disrespectful. I was trying to show how it sounded when someone started cranking out the same over-used rhetoric of accusing people who were ‘guilty’ of supporting Church teaching on marriage and believed that a child deserves a mother and a father. To me it is unimaginable that we have to be defending such a fundamental, God-given thing! That such people could be accused of hate!! is so absurd to me that it forces my absurdity/bs quota needle into the red and I get a little testy. I certainly wasn’t making fun of anyone’s troubles, for we are all so fragile and wounded that I could never stoop so low. Read my post again and where do you see I’m making fun of his troubles? I am guilty of having little patience with people who are twisting the truth and I agree I was not at all charitable. I’m not clever by half, but am seriously tired of all the sly, cunning digs that pass as loving rebukes on this site. I’ve always believed in calling a spade a spade, and definitely need to include more heart! And you’re so right, the serpant is most cunning of all, and can speak with a deceitful, double edged tongue. We are often most deceitful of all when our pride is wounded. We’re all works in progress, that’s for sure, but rather than nurse our grievances, we should thank God for revealing to us we’re not perfect and have a long way to go to holiness.
I see that a gentler rebuke would have sufficed and I apologize for my harshness.
Anonymous writes: “…I tell you, these men have struggles that you can’t even begin to fathom.”
Anonymous, we ALL have struggles that others are incapable of fathoming. No one is negating the suffering of those carrying the cross of SSA. To imply, however, that Dana or anyone else for that matter without SSA is somehow carrying a lighter cross is to completely miss the point that Our Lord gives us each a unique cross. That which is crafted to the individual. (There is no happy land of easy crosses, Anonymous, not in this valley of tears.)
You do yourself and others a disservice to exalt the cross of those with SSA as somehow unimaginably difficult while dismissing the myriad crosses of others as smaller or less difficult. Please do not build up the cross of SSA to be more or less than what it is. By doing so, you can potentially puff up those carrying that particular cross to think themselves better than what they are and at the same time can discourage those with SSA from even attempting to carry their cross. (It being too heavy and ultimately misunderstood.) You also diminish the struggle of faithful Catholics who do nothing more than attempt to carry the cross of Faithfulness which, in truth, is increasingly the heaviest of all in light of the times… if you want to speak of comparing crosses.
Ann Malley, Your June 23, 2014 at 10:50 am post was a three star *** MOST MAGNIFICENT response to k. All readers should benefit by that most needed response. You see Ann, some are very threatened by the beautiful God given gift of the way that you are able to communicate the truths of the Catholic Faith. The attacks are really a testimony and compliment to the real beauty of our Church’s teaching when taught properly and defended. Also, there IS a faction within the Church that absolutely does not want unity or reconciliation with the SSPX. And some may say, “That’s not true or ask…Why not?” Well, imagine a whole diocese or parish of well catechized Catholics who are also able to see through the smoke and mirrors of those with other agendas…such as keeping others in a state of helpless paralysis in order to justify keeping status quo aka as the status LOW. There is no love in spiritual neglect because it fosters a malnourishment of grace due to deliberately dumbing down man’s knowledgeable capability to confidently reach out to God in all things.
“Jesus I Trust in You”
With God all things are possible. May Almighty God please hear the prayers of all of the faithful and may Pope Francis continue to work on reuniting all who truly seek the fullness of truth.
Once again! continued from
June 23, 2014 at 12:53 pm
2 Corinthians 12:9
And he said to me: My grace is sufficient for thee; for power is made perfect in infirmity. Gladly therefore will I glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may dwell in me. Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible
2 Corinthians 12:10
For which cause I please myself in my infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ. For when I am weak, then am I powerful. Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible
“Jesus, I trust in you,” sums it up, Catherine, on every level. Would that we could all unify in truth behind that surest of shields.
God bless!
Catherine, thanks for pointing out Ann’s marvellous response! I almost missed it. I agree, she’s stellar…so full of wisdom, compassion and a sense of humor! I always look forward to Ann’s contributions. (and she often laughs at my poor attempts at humor, which is a real plus! heh heh)
I agree with you Dana and yes, that was a marvelous response!
Dana, Google Rev. Owens yourself. If you smell gas, it’s him, not me.
You were supposed to laugh, pal! ;o)
Keep the humor coming, Dana. It is God’s medicine to be sure!
Did Anyone see the story about the March 4 Marriage in the East Bay ‘news’ Papers?
Actually – there were No stories about it published, kind of like the wall of Censorship over the Larry Brinkin Pederast Toddler Rape Ring – run out of the ‘in-human-rights’ commission in Frisco.
SEE San Francisco’s Gay Icon Larry Brinkin Guilty of Felony Child Porn Possession: https://cnsnews.com/node/757449
The media Censorship of Homosex Icon Brinkin’s overt Racist Gloating at the rape of toddlers – certainly contrasts with the lobby’s bogus attempts to use the Race Card in promoting pandering to the Attack on Marriage, but only counts as Hypocrisy if anyone dares to discuss it. Hence, No Story = No Problem.
The De-Bunking of the Racist Lie that somehow Race (like Gender, an immutable inherited trait fixed at birth) – is the equivalent of the Choice to act out the types of Sick Hatreds and Vile Perversions of the Gaystapo agenda, was just one of the Facts that counseled Media Censorship of the event…
The other is that they only promote what they pander to – and Censor anything (Like the annual tax subsidized Anti-Male Hate Riot / “SF Dyke March” – set for 6/28) that might inform the ‘Vanilla’ (clueless suburban voters / taxpayers) about the Real Agenda of Separatist / Exterminationist Misandry fueling the spate of Hate that is their foundational ‘beliefs’.
Michael, the major liberal media always does this. When there are thousands, and you can see it on EWTN, marching against abortion, they show a small group of abortion protesters along a bigger group of pro abortion people. They are fooling no one, except those who have no access to EWTN or other stations. It is an old media trick, just like the cutting room editing floor where they take out portions of what an another has said to make them appear to be an idiot.
Anne T… I will dispense with jokes about my uncle’s wife, and simply say that you are quite right about the extreme Bias of our bought and paid for free press.
Note how the ‘Numbers’ only matter when they can be spun to serve Gaystapo Propaganda.
If on a working weekday when many can’t leave what jobs are left open to people of Faith, Thousands of peaceful marchers stand up for Marriage (Not ‘Anti-Happy’ Ism-Obia spun by the Trolls) then the Trolls say the numbers are too small.
By Contrast – when Pro-Marriage Constitutional clauses are approved by overwhelming numbers of voters (75% in one state) – all it takes is one Black Robed Activist to overturn the Law, under the Pander or Perish rule.
No need to talk about numbers then – Just the Gaystapo coin toss of Heads they win, Tails we lose – which is at least consistent.
On a personal note – When the P-8 hearing was held at the CA Supreme Court many years ago and the mauists hehd a news conference on the Courthouse steps, there was a huge media presence listening to the likes of city atty. T. Steward – standing right next to my own Ant-Misandry Sign. Oh the delicious irony of being bested at their own game – which those few that broadcast of course edited out of the viewer frame (you can see my hand holding one edge).
Pray to the Sacred Heart of Jesus that all of this disgusting evil will end and to protect our families from it. Start by praying the rosary. Remember Blessed Mother is more powerful than all of the devils in hell and on the earth combined.
August Queen of Heaven, Sovereign Mistress of the Angels, who didst receive from the beginning the mission and the power to crush the serpents head. We beseech Thee to send Thy holy angels that under Thy command and by Thy power they may pursue the evil spirits, encounter them on every side, resist their bold attacks and drive them hence into back into the abyss of hell.
Most Holy Mother send Thy holy angels to defend us and to drive the cruel enemy from us. All you holy angels and archangels help and defend us. Amen. Oh good and tender Mother Thou shalt ever be our love and our hope, keep and defend us Amen.
Angel of God my guardian dear, to who God’s love commits me here, from ever this day be at my side, to light and to guard, to rule and to guide. Amen.
Most kind most chaste sweet Jesus please help me, please forgive me!
Most kind most chaste sweet Mother Mary please pray for me!
Most kind most chaste sweet guardian angel, St. Michael the Archangel, and St. Joseph please protect me!
Oh good and tender Mother Thou shalt ever be our love and our hope, please help us.
Amen.
Dr. Barry Mayfield, all Mortal Sins are wrong. Mortal sins against children are especially heinous.
However all unrepented Mortal sins send Souls to Hell.
You must feel guilty or you would not be so upset about the Priests homily regarding adultery and strip clubs.
For a Doctor it sounds rather silly that you would appear to ake the attitude of my mortal sin is better than your mortal sin.
So what is your real point ? That your priest should not tell you not to commit adultery?
FYI – nationwide less that 2% of all Priests were involved with child sexual abuse. And most of those happened many years ago.
Dr. B. Mayfield: Since apparently you personally have first hand knowledge of a particular Priest committing child abuse and have not reported him to the civil authorities, you are guilty of aiding and abetting and belong in jail yourself.
If you do not have any first hand knowledge, what are you talking about?
Regarding ADULTARY – God’s Commandments (not suggestions) –
Thou Shall not commit adultery.
Thou Shall not covet thy neighbor’s wife.
Jesus said: Mk 10:5-12.
Sounds like you have a VERY GOOD Priest to me.
So what is your real complaint ? – Your own mortal sins that you do not want to face?
Strip clubs are pornographic, and visiting those are mortal sins as well.
“Adulterers”- all those (male and female–priest or layity) that “fornicate” (porn, masturbation, all sexual acts) outside of the marital union of one man and one woman…….period.
I should add that to be saved, sinners can “repent”, ask our Lord for forgivness in confession and then sin no more.
Again, Dr. Mayfield if you have first hand or documented info, you must report all cases of abuse to the Civil Authorities, or you are aiding and abetting.
Your past life can not be used as an excuse to protect molesters.
Regarding eternity, ALL those guilty of ALL the various Mortal Sins will go to Hell – if they do not repent.
One Mortal Sin is not better than another Mortal Sin. One Mortal Sin is not an excuse for another type of Mortal Sin.
None of us know for certain who has repented and who has not. – As stated in the Bible each of us will be judged by Jesus at the time of our deaths.. We do know that not many will be saved because Jesus said so. Mt 7:13-14; Mt 7:21-23; Lk 13: 22-28.
You do not need to like your abuser. But you must forgive him. Otherwise he could drag you down to Hell as well.
Thoughts on the Eucharist from “Lauda Sion Salvatorem” (Thomas Aquinas) for Nancy Pelosi to contemplate (excerpt):
“The good receive Him, the bad receive Him,
but with what unequal consequences
of life or death.
It is death to the unworthy, life to the worthy:
behold then of a like reception,
how unlike may be the result!”
(Sumunt boni, sumunt mali:
Sorte tamen inaequali,
Vitae vel interitus.
Mors est malis, vita bonis:
Vide, paris sumptionis
Quam sit dispar exitus!)
Same thing goes for anyone who promotes gay lifestyles, commits sodomy etc…even abortion! They have excommunicated themselves! Just like Pelosi who is for abortion, gay unions etc….she excommunicated herself!
You mean Catholic heretic and schismatic Pelosi ?