The following comes from a December 20 Juicy Ecumenism blog post by Chelsen Vicari:
The Western Methodist Justice Movement (WMJM), an unofficial caucus group within the Western Jurisdiction of The United Methodist Church (UMC), is calling on its members to attend the Health Committee of the Los Angeles City Council hearing to help “put CPCs [Crisis Pregnancy Centers] on the defense.”
The LA City Council hearing on January 23 will investigate faith-based crisis pregnancy centers’s alleged “false advertising,” oddly the day after Roe v. Wade’s 44th anniversary and the same week as the annual March for Life, the world’s largest pro-life rally.
In a newsletter, the Western Methodist Justice Movement accuses the pregnancy centers of a “devious approach” and hopes Los Angeles will take steps to hold them “accountable for lying to women,” but they fail to outline exactly what they believe to be false advertising.
Great, let’s all show up and fight back!
John and Charles Wesley would not even recognize the Methodism of today. Their denomination died when it became the “United Methodist”. Susanna Wesley, who is considered the mother of Methodism, was the 25th child from a family of 25. She and her husband Samuel had many children themselves , though only eight survived. Susanna homeschooled them all and used a “method” to bring them up. My how times change.
I thought that John and Charles Wesley were originally Anglican ministers, in England, who developed a special religious “method” to follow. Then later, I thought they abandoned the Church of England when they went to America, and formed a new Protestant church of their own, using their religious method they devised, in England. People called them “Methodists,” because of their popular religious methods. Their black-robed preachers often would ride on horseback to small communities, to hold church services and to preach— they were known as the Circuit Riders. These Methodists were the real ones– and the ones of today– are an un-Christian FRAUD!!
Linda Maria, I would say that you are probably right in what you wrote about the two brothers, but Suzanna Wesley was their mother from whom they got the idea for their “method” and denominational name
I am sorry that I was not clear in my fist post that Suzanna Wesley was the mother of John and Charles Wesley, and Samuel their father.
Anne T., what a fine mother Mrs. Wesley must have been! Were she and her husband, Anglicans?? I thought the two brothers originally went to Oxford University, for their theology degrees, and became Anglican ministers, also showing to others at Oxford, their famous religious “method.” Then later, I thought they left the Church of England , and formed their own Protestant church, when coming to America. They wrote some lovely hymns, too! I don’t know anything about the Methodist church– maybe one can get a book on the subject!
Linda Maria, I have not had time to look it up, but I am sure that Suzanna’s children were only home-schooled during their elementary years and perhaps teen years. They must have gone to Oxford later. I do not know how old one had to be to go to Oxford back then. It is all on line if one googles it.
And Susan B. Anthony, one of the first “feminists” thought abortion was an abuse of women and children. Again, my how times have changed.
Anne T., I know that the early feminists wanted to protect motherhood, and help the plights of mothers and their children. I love how Motherhood was once revered– it is now so misunderstood, sadly! Motherhood is sacred, and so close to God!
All Christians once considered the sin of abortion to be murder, and unthinkable! The early feminists considered Motherhood as sacred, and sought to improve life, for all women and their children! Especially those in need!
Thanks for caption on photo. Otherwise, could have passed for ‘church worth driving to’
Protestantism has given us so many wonderful gifts. How shall I count the ways? Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus.
As Scott Hahn has written, they went the way of Balaam. First throwing out this doctrine, then that doctrine, this moral law, then that until nothing was left of real Christianity. Nevertheless, there is still hope. Pray for all.
Linda Maria, Anne T. and Kristin. You all hit the nail on the head. The whole world has been dumbed-down to how HIDEOUS abortion is. Step one was the use of euphemisms like “fetus” instead of “unborn baby”; the same for the use of “fetal tissue” and “products of conception”; and the right to tear a baby from its mother 15 seconds before a normal birth would occur [late-term partial birth abortion] by terming it the protection of “women’s reproductive rights”. No faithful Catholic should further dull consciences by EVER using such deceptive terms. As it is, our country has long since out-Heroded Herod by the number of babies killed.
That is what did Hilary Clinton in. She claims to be Methodist, but the working class, whom she claims to support, knew that she was just in it for herself and had no use for them. She thought they were her useful idiots.