When Melania Trump recited The Lord’s Prayer before a Melbourne, Florida presidential rally in February, the Internet went hog wild.
Now we know one reason why the first lady began with ‘Let us pray’ and ‘Our Father who art in heaven’ when she introduced the president that evening: She’s a practicing Roman Catholic.
Her spokeswoman Stephanie Grisham confirmed that to DailyMail.com on Wednesday, hours after Pope Francis blessed a rosary for her at the Vatican.
The last Catholics to live in the White House were John F. Kennedy and his wife Jackie. Melania and her son Barron will move to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue over the summer.
It’s unclear when Mrs. Trump became a Catholic. The president is a life-long Presbyterian, and they were married in a Florida Episcopal church.
Growing up as the daughter of a Communist Party member in rural Slovenia, her family maintained the outward appearances of being atheists, according to people in her childhood village of Sevnica who spoke to DailyMail.com in late 2015.
Accordingly, Melania and her sister were not baptized and did not make their First Holy Communion with other children their age.
Full story at The Daily Mail.
Where, exactly, does she “practice” catholicism? The only time one of the most photographed women in history has ever been seen in a Catholic building is when she went in widow’s garb to the Vatican. Otherwise, she married a serial groper-in-chief barely protestant and oft divorced man, in an episcopal church, a man who can’t even pronounce the books of the Bible correctly.
YFC,
Whether she’s officially Catholic or not, it seems, at the very least, that she’s heading in the right direction. Praise God!
“Heading in the right direction”. yet folks consistently belittle me for being an actual practicing fellow catholic, sitting in the pews next to me. Where is your “praise God!” for me?
YFC,
I’m not quite sure how you can take offense at anything I wrote.
Please note that I also didn’t invoke the phrase “praise God” for anyone else [including myself.]
But, if you’re heading in the right direction as well: Praise God!
I took no offense, steve, I just pointed out the duel standards which often exist here on CCD, which Sawyer, below, provides sufficient evidence even before I could respond.
Sodomites don’t get praise.
Sawyer,
I don’t know YFC and so can’t speak for him. But If a gay homosexual were in the process of realizing and confronting the nature of homosexual activity, would that not be praiseworthy?
Of course people don’t get praise. You call some of us “sodomites”. Certainly we don’t get praise, so you are absolutely right. But, that is not the point.
The point is, do you give God praise? Do you? Or do you just seek to denigrate his creatures?
I have to agree with Sawyer. Sodomites are one of the reasons the church is in such a mess . Was it or was it not that Sodomites cost the church millions and millions of dollars because of the “Same Sex Attraction” with Altar Boys ? YFC, I call all of you “guys” Sodomites, and will continue to pray for the end to same sex attraction.
Joe,
It’s true that homosexuals have caused serious damage to the Church, but this is not true of all homosexuals. In fact, there are homosexuals who have done much to building up the Church.
Sawyer and Joe,
I strongly recommend not using the term “sodomite” on a Catholic website. The term is needlessly derisive. This is similar to Catholics being called “papists” by Protestants. The term “sodomy” is fine and descriptive, but sodomite is not appropriate and reflects poorly on us.
Ah….Our discussions always get down to homosexuality no matter what the topic. Steve…Remember that “sodomy” is a specific act which more straight couples than gay men do and lesbians can’t. Why do you keep using it to refer to ALL homosexual people? Also… If a gay person were to say, convince a woman not to abort her child, wouldn’t that be praiseworthy?
C&H,
I’m a bit confused. I hardly ever use the term “sodomy,” so I don’t understand your allegation. I employed the term in the above case to differentiate it from the term “sodomist” which I feel is needlessly divisive. But, if some heterosexual activity is sodomy, all homosexual sex is. The term is appropriate to use when it describes the activity.
“Ah….Our discussions always get down to homosexuality no matter what the topic. ” Yes C&H you and YFC made it clear to all of us that your homosexuals (especially YFC) and most gays are in the pro-abortion camp so questions is irrelevant especially the man hating lesbians. How in the world do you know what specific acts straight couples engage in. Gays are called sodomites because that’s domain your crowd loves to advertise, how? just look at your filthy gay pride marches .
Steve .. Sorry … my comment was addressed to Sawyer regarding his 5/26 2:21PM post. I agree with what you say in your 5/28 post. My apologies.
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Bohemond..For the record, I am pro-life and oppose abortion. You also might be interested to know that I know a fellow lesbian who is an RN and vollunteers at a crisis pregnancy center.
C&H I am glad to hear you and your friend are pro-life, but lets be honest most gays are not. Abortion has zero to do with women’s health and has everything to do with sexual license, the people who support it, want sex without consequence, end of story.
Steve: Thanks for trying when it comes to not labelling gay people as sodomites and your reasoning is solid. However, your use of the term sodomy is fraught because you yourself admit that the word has no concrete meaning, which is one of the reasons very very few people use the term. If “sodomy” is an activity, then anyone who engages in the activity engages in sodomy regardless of whether the person is gay or straight. And if you are using sodomy to mean any activity that gay people engage in, then they commit sodomy when they make dinner or pick up their laundry.
YFC,
I’m not actually trying to be nice as much as I’m trying to be devoted to justice and truth. As Catholics, we should strive for unity because disunity is of the Evil One.
Even though I didn’t state it, sodomy does have a definition and it includes certain types of sexual acts, both homosexual and heterosexual. What I stated in my post to C&H was not the definition.
I think it’s important that we only refer to sex as sexual intercourse and not things that are merely sexual such as oral sex, gay sex, or phone sex. I’ve known people who have gotten these terms confused with sex merely because the term “sex” was used in the expression.
Steve, I’m enjoying this banter, and I really truly appreciate your meeting me half way, as its far more humane than most on here, but your definition of sex is a bit like Clinton saying “it depends on what “is” is.” BTW, by your definition, Clinton did not have sex with Lewinsky, and I myself am a virgin. Are you sure you want to posit that? I suspect you will get loads of pushback in this commentary section if that is your position.
YFC,
I’m glad you mentioned Bill Clinton. In the Paula Jones court depositions, sexual relations [which means “sex” in common usage] was defined as a large number of sexual behaviors including those that Clinton did with Monica Lewinski. According to the court, Bill Clinton had sex with Lewinski. So he committed perjury when he denied this. But in truth, he sodomized her with a cigar: he never had sex with her. Thus, he could honestly tell the American people that he never had sex with Lewinski but committed perjury when he denied this same fact in court. This underscores my need for a precision in terms.
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So, Bill Clinton did not have sex with Monica Lewinski. But, according to my Collegiate Websters dictionary, you probably would not be a virgin since the term includes some sexual activity beyond mere sexual intercourse.
Are we having fun yet :)
Now numbering two attacks by the same Puritan Catholic-minded person on women (Melania Trump and Callista Gingrich) who aren’t “sufficiently Catholic” as he so devoutly is.
Good!
God bless and be with our First Lady and her family , may she be an example to all of us .
Fellow Catholic – perhaps you were too young to read the newspapers and listen to the T.V. during the Kennedy years. The Kennedy brothers were serial womanizers…..it was a well known fact about Jack, Bobby and Teddy. They learned well from their father. So please stop the talk about Pres. Trump. Mary Jo Kopeckne would still be alive today but for the cowardly act of Ted Kennedy. Pray for al of these people and do not criticize the Trumps. You surely must have better things to do.
What do the Kennedy’s have ANYTHING to do with anything?
This post is about Melania Trump’s alleged catholicism.
Stop talking about Trump, and start talking about Kennedy? Really? What decade do you live in?
A very graceful First Lady we have. May God’s Blessings be upon her and the First Family.
James Kelly also forgot to mention our esteemed President William J. Clinton who puts all womanizers to shame. He can account for 22 women listed in his little black book. Some even died mysteriously. And no one blinked an eye. So YFC had better check his facts before criticizing our First Lady and Pres. Trump. And let us not forgot, Monica Lewinski who had much to say about her tryst in the Oval Office with WJC. And all of these famous men named are gropers……and Democrats. Please keep them in your prayer
And as it is said, our First is very graceful. May God Bless her, our President, and all their family.
Clinton isn’t in office and was impeached for the Lewisnski affair, so I’m assuming some people blinked some eyes or that would not have happenned. Trump is as much or more of a groper as anyone, and he IS in office. Why is Clinton even a subject here? Kennedy? Who cares about things that happenned 20 or even 50 years ago, if we don’t care what is going on now?
She may be at a very difficult time in her life right now. I hope meeting the Holy Father gave her solace and courage.
When having a private audience with the Holy Father in the Vatican, women are supposed to wear black and cover their heads. This is the protocol which has been around before Moslem women started to bring their Moslem customs to Christian nations. How vicious it is to criticize Mrs. Trump’s accent, and then to berate her because of her husband’s past indiscretions. All Catholics are constantly in need of God’s mercy and grace. As far as I know, Mr. Trump is not committing adultery since he began his Presidency, something which cannot be said about Bill Clinton or JFK.
Excuse me. Catholic definition of adultery doesn’t begin with their Oath of Office to the Presidency. The President has engaged several supposedly Christian marriages, each of which he renigged upon. His “wife” Melania is supposedly a catholic, yet she has never ever been seen in a catholic Church and there are no records of her baptism or first communion or any public action that would call her catholic Christian.
YFC you calling out others moral failings is beyond laughable. You have about as much moral authority to do that as Larry Flynt Excuse me have you investigated whether there are no records of her baptism or first communion ??? How would know. ?
The next time you go to mass, YFC, you should thank God that you’re not like all those other hypocrites and scoundrels who don’t have half the holiness you do.
Can’t anyone, including on this site, be happy with such good news??!!
Kopeckne was born in 1940. So its about an even bet whether she would yet be alive absent her untimely death.
Let’s not overstate the facts.
Whenever a person enters the Catholic Church, it is a great cause of jubilation because the Mystical Body of Christ has increased! Those who have written negatively on the conversion of Melania Trump are liberals, plain and simple. Michael Savage, and other pundits have said that ‘ liberalism is a disease’. Every day these words become more fact than fiction because liberals detest truth, beauty and God. They love the devil, the earth and falsehood. Look at all the fake news, and how God is being left out of the picture because of the liberals and their satanic ideas. May God bless Mrs. Trump, and may her faith be an inspiration to President Trump and to the rest of us.
Lianne, your last sentence is great, the rest not so much! It is important to keep in mind that conservatives and liberals have a different view about how the government should operate, but that doesn’t make them evil or in love with the devil. We may have reached a point where we hate those who disagree with us, rather than trying to listen to their point of view. Some believe that the best government is the one that governs least. Others think the government can be a force for good for the people. I remember when Democrats were the conservative party in the South and the Republicans were the liberals in the Northeast. We have got to learn to listen to each other and respect each other.
Before she became a loyal follower of Our Lord, Mary Magdalene was an active prostitute. But she stopped sinning, and now she is a saint. President Trump committed adultery, but as far as I know, he has quit committing this sin well before he ran for office. So, quit attacking people you hate. It is not Christ-like, but is a tactic that all liberals engage in since they are illogical and defective in their thinking process. We must thank God for the grace of conversion that aided Mrs. Trump to become a Catholic. Ave Maria Purrissima!
He is twice divorced, jesusita. Twice divorced before marrying Melania, so therefore, he is by definition a current adulterer.
YFC, Donald Trump’s first wife had been previously married, so that marriage (from what I have always read) would not be considered valid by the Church as the Catholic Church recognizes the validity of Protestant marriages and would only recognize her first marriage to her first husband. I do not think his second wife was previously married so I am not sure if that marriage would be considered valid or not. If the second wife was Catholic, and she married him outside the Church, that marriage would not be valid either. Melanie was never married before according to the websites. The situation is quite complicated.
Republicans and Democrats once were all for God, country and the family. This radically changed in the 60’s when the liberals, radicals and atheists took over the Democrat party. Now one party, the Republicans, is the only one that is for God, country and family. These are facts, not fiction. The tea party and other conservatives are part of the Republican party, but the Democrats are against God, against America, and against the family. Despite what the American bishops tried to do, the majority of Catholics voted for Trump. He is far from perfect, but he is trying to bring America back to God, and he is trying to make America great again. God bless him.
Lianne, everyone is free to have their opinions, but where in the name of heaven did you come up with this last rant? Democrats (I’m not one) aren’t against God, America and family. They do, admittedly, have a different view of how to govern that the Republicans. Of course, I agree that Trump is “far from perfect” (I’m not Republican either), too. We have got to get together as a nation and stop the hate – disagree OK, but then let’s try to get things done. This country is so divided that when one party has a majority in the House, Senate, and White House they still can’t get anything done. Its because of the hate that has been fermented by the toxic media and people that believe them.
The Democratic party supports abortion on demand at all stages of pregnancy, and the party’s “politics” are responsible for the killing of 61 million Americans in the womb since 1973. That position can never be reconciled with truth. And until the legality of abortion is overturned, there will never be peace and the divide will be irreconcilable. The Democrat party’s support of legal abortion on demand is the the most anti-God, America and family policy that Satan in all his diabolical perversity could ever devise, a policy that has has resulted in 10 times as many deaths as Hitler, all the while the Democrat scum go about calling Christians – Nazis.
Just FYI friends … it was not uncommon in Eastern Europe, during the Soviet period, for Communist Party members, who, like perhaps most joined for the carrier benefits rather than any belief, to have had their children baptized.
…. in secret.
We all must be grateful to Almighty God that Mrs. Trump is a Catholic. Whether she recently converted to the One, True Church, or if she was baptized as an infant all depends on God’s magnificent grace. Maybe through a priest’s words, actual grace moved her to be baptized. We do not know, and it is not really that important. Mrs. Trump is now a member of the Mystical Body of Christ and of the Church Militant. May she be a cause of actual grace to inspire her family as well as others. God bless you, Melania Trump, and may Our Lady keep you.
Bob One go tell your nonsense to the thugs at ANTIFA and Black Lives Matter…The Left in this country is no friend of Christ and His Church, the Democrat party leader recently stated there is no place for pro-life Democrats in the party. That should tell you everything you need to know
Bohemond, I agree that the Democratic Party is no friend of Christ, which is why I am not a member. I wish there was another party that represented pro-life people with liberal views, but alas ….
By being pro abortion, pro birth control, and pro homosexual, the Democrat party is against the family. Also, by leaving GOD out of their platform, for being against Catholics and other Christians who will not support evil pro-sodomy laws, the Democrat party is also against God. Liberals are illogical; they do not think, they only feel. No one with any common sense can say that the Democrat party is for God and for the family.
For God’s sake, let us leave the poor woman alone. After all, she is in what has to be a very difficult marriage to a very difficult man. She needs all of the prayers we can offer up for her.
Bob One thank you for finally admitting that you are a liberal……I am not a member of either political party. If there was a Catholic Monarchist party I would join it.
Bohemond … How would the USA select the first Monarch. The Trumps try to be pretty royal. Donald’s ineleigable because he’s a Protestant. Does the line of sucession therefore fall to Queen Melaina the First? Ivanka’s Jewish so next in line must be Barron.
C&H its just a fantasy, I wish we were a Catholic Confessional state, where the moral order was upheld.
Bohemond,
I used to also have the same sentiment. But this thought always got tempered by the fact that it would only be a matter of time before some crank manipulates himself into and through the political system and creates a tyranny.
I will still take it over the non-democracy and pagan society we currently have….
It’s actually a very nice fantasy. Beautiful Queen Malania walking down the aisle at the Basilica of the Shrine of the Immaculate Conception, dressed in a lovely gown, to be crowned by the Holy Father. Sorry guys, I have a very active imagination.
Not bad…..Like it myself
I like melania. She has goodness in her heart. She makes the effort to love. End of story