The June 20 issue of Catholic San Francisco, the newspaper of the archdiocese of San Francisco, carried an article titled “Faith compels archbishop to tell ‘whole truth’ about marriage.” The article, from Catholic News Service, began “Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone of San Francisco said June 16 that his Catholic faith requires him to “proclaim … the whole truth” in support of traditional marriage.
He made the statement in a letter addressing recent criticism of his participation in the second annual March for Marriage to take place in Washington June 19. The march brings thousands of grass-roots activists to the National Mall to illustrate that a “majority of Americans still stand for marriage” as the traditional union of one man and one woman.”
The article also reported that on June 17 “a small group of protestors” had visited the San Francisco Chancery to present a petition requesting the archbishop not attend the rally. CNS reported:
“It is essential to us that that the archbishop understand he will be standing shoulder to shoulder with members of what we consider, a hate group,” said Gregg Cassin, who spoke for the protesters and met with archdiocesan communications director Christine Mugridge after the protest.”
Since Cassin claims to consider those at the March for Marriage “a hate group,” and since Archbishop Cordileone, in his capacity as chair of the subcommittee for the Promotion and Defense of Marriage, is officially representing the Catholic Church at the March, it is hard to see how he can’t consider the Catholic Church a “hate group.”
Cassin has been the subject of three recent articles in CalCatholic. On March 21, we reported that Cassin, an open LGBT activist who has led rallies attacking marriage, was leading a retreat for the students at Notre Dame de Namur High School in Belmont. On May 5, we reported that Notre Dame had cancelled an upcoming appearance by Cassin. On May 26, we reported that Notre Dame had cancelled their cancellation. Since the school seems unable to make up its mind whether or not to host a speaker who considers the Catholic Church a “hate group,” perhaps it is time for the archdiocese of San Francisco to assert its authority.
While Notre Dame de Namur High School is under the control of a religious order, the school is listed as a Catholic school on the archdiocesan website and on the website of the San Francisco Department of Catholic Schools.
The leadership of Notre Dame De Namur’s California province consists of: Sister Louise O’Reilly, Sister Georgianna Coonis, and Sister Virginia Unger. All may be contacted at: Sisters of Notre Dame de Namur Province Center, 1520 Ralston Avenue, Belmont CA 94002.
For the archdiocese of San Francisco, contact: Maureen Huntington, superintendent of Catholic Schools or Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone; all at the Archdiocese of San Francisco, One Peter Yorke Way, San Francisco CA 94109.
Most important is to contact the principal of your local Catholic elementary schools. Almost all enrollment to Catholic high schools come from Catholic elementary feeder schools. Contact information for the elementary schools within the archdiocese of San Francisco may be found by clicking here.
Have just read an article where Ms. Pelosi has EXCOMMUNICATED the Archbishop of San Francisco! Yes, not making it up. And now I read about this man cropping up again, whom SHOULD NEVER be teaching anything in a ‘Catholic’ school was bringing petitions to the Chancery tellIing the Archbishop not to attend the March for Marriage that is occuring tomorrow, Thursday June 19th! HAS THE WHOLE WORLD GONE MAD????????????
No, ELizabeth…those rascals at The Eye of the Tiber are just being naughty again.
You do realize that Eye of the Tiber is a satire site, right. Disclaimer at the bottom of their page says it very clearly.
Elizabeth, from what I read it is satire and came from a Catholic website, and is a “play” on the “Screw Tape Letters”, a book by the Christian author C.S. Lewis. I do not think even Nancy Pelosi is that crazy that she thinks she could actually excommunicate Archbishop Cordileone, She simply does not have that power, although she probably wished she did.
Why are we even entertaining those thoughts and dialogue, its stupid to even say that Pelosi excommunicates Archbishop. She has no power nor does anyone else! This is utterly ridiculous and to even say naughty? Naughty is just putting it lightly. When you describe someone as naughty, you would use it when a child is acting up, a child is usually innocent and does not know what they are doing but these activists do know what they are doing and they are NOT to be described as “naughty”! NOT at all, there are better words that truly fit and that do not desensitize their actions nor do the other words that describe it well do not take lightly their wicked actions!
Now, now. Let’s not be hasty Abeca. The writers used irony and exaggeration to reveal truth…that Pelosi is completely out of line with her letter to the archbishop and that it is HER who should be excommunicated. Satan hates laughter , especially when it is aimed at him or his minions. Laughter puts things in perspective and instead of making this woman a big, terrible threat to the archbishop, she’s reduced to looking small, pathetic and ridiculous. Charlie Chaplain, one of the few people back in the day, mocked and ridiculed Adolf Hitler in his movie The Dictator. That’s what made this country great…like Will Rogers, we laughed at our enemies (before we brought them down, naturally). Jesus said to love our enemies. Laughter is one way to humanize them, I suppose…Muslims need some serious work on being able to laugh at themselves! I grew up in a time when we could laugh at the president or congress. Don’t be yet another to want to silence dissent.
Dana this has nothing to do with wanting to silence dissent. But OK lets agree to disagree and Ill consider your point of view on the matter. Thanks : )
Mr. Cassin is likely possessed, as only someone with a dark angel’s mentality could object to the Archbishop’s righteous alliance on the side of natural and moral marriage. Cassin, like many, many homosexual sexualists, simply cannot, and will not be denied: everyone must accept their homosexual sexual impulses as something good, moral, and natural — or be damned! Unfortunately for Mr. Cassin, he lacks any authority to direct the abode of souls, so he will be frustrated. However, Cassin’s hysteria is instructive: homosexual sexualists and their enablers (think Nancy Pelosi) cannot abide the loss of power. They insist that they must trump any and all institutional direction over a wide range of behavior, most noticeably homosexual sexual behavior and women’s sexuality (including abortion and lesbianism). The Catholic Church cannot, to Cassin, Pelosi, and many, many others, cannot be permitted to exist beyond the reach of their power (or else, why have it?). Cassin is the very true embodiment of evil (as is Pelosi, Biden, the Kennedy’s, and the sad list of other Catholic celebrities and politicians). Pray for all of them. But pray for Abp. Cordileone more, he is facing greater powers than he imagines.
Don’t these people like Cassin have the slightest awareness of the spiritual warfare that Jesus prophesied was to come when he told his disciples that he came not to bring peace but the sword, and that gates of hell would not prevail against his church? So sad that many folks would side with the losing team.
No because they are homo homosexual homosexual homosexualsexualists. Therefore they are unable to use the English language to figure out who are the hetero heterosexual heterosexualists amongst us.
I would say virtually all unrepentant sodomites are possessed. Indeed, Satanists concede that sodomite marriage is a Satanic sacrament. See:
Why would any faithful person take the word of an admitted satanist?
Because even Satanists are more credible than sodomy-and-abortion-loving Pelosi Catholics.
OK well then you have just proved again what a warped and unChristian perspective you actually subscribe to.
YFC at least Satanist are honest about who and what they are,,, Pelosi is liar and a fraud
How is it warped, YFC? Our Lord himself says he takes the most issue not with the hot (those who love Him and profess/practice the Faith) or the cold (those who do not love Him and profess/practice that which is against the Faith) – they are at least living as they believe. But He does take issue with the tepid/lukewarm – those who basically dabble in both realms saying they believe and stand for the Faith, but doing no such thing by their deceptive actions. They are divided, YFC, and will be vomited out of Our Lord’s mouth.
I’m sure he’s probably more aware of those dark powers than we can imagine, St. Christopber. The more authority you are given by God, the more satan works to bring you down, as in the case of St. John Vianay, St. Padre Pio et al.
You are so right that we should be praying, not just for Archbishop Cordileone, but for all those in the march and in the fight for marriage. St. Michael, defend us in battle…
Dude, quit with the redundant language. It’s not homosexual sexualist or homosexual sexual impulses. You sound uneducated.
“Anonymous”: Yes, it is good to be schooled by the intelligentsia that begin their comments with “Dude.” And, “homosexual sexualist” is not at all redundant, but descriptive of a homosexual that is sexually active (and not only “homosexual” by natuire or preference). Not really a hard concept to understand, Mr. Dude. That is, not hard to understand, unless you admit that all “homosexuals” are sexually active; a point that the objected to phrase does. Good and moral people, who are homosexual by nature or choice and who repent of, and avoid repetition of, their sexual sins are worthy of respect, even though there is daily torment. Remember how God kept the thorn in St. Paul’s side, and let a demon angel attack him, even though Paul prayed to be delivered (a daily occurence, the meaning of which has split theologians over centuries). See, 2 Cor.12:7.
Dear heterosexual sexualist, Or should I say, St. Heterosexual Sexualist: Mr. Dude is pretty correct. You are just about the only one in the world who uses that phrase, because you say it twice and are redundant. You could say sexually active homosexual, or even active homosexual, and I think you’d find that gets your point across in a way that most people will understand.
Ahab Ahab go away, take Pelosi ( who’s actions are in the spirit of Jezebel) with you and never return.
The Lord will bless Archbishop Cordileone and all who call themselves Catholic, who are devout, need to stand by him and protect and pray for him! You don’t understand the threats and bullying that he will continue to receive from those awful Gay activists! Any negative comments people have made in the past, refrain from them, and pray for this good Archbishop!
Many priests speaking out against same-sex marriage and abortion have been silenced by their superiors who are fearful that the wealthy will stop contributing money. The rich man’s school in Belmont, CA is full of the children of the wealthy who are indoctrinated in evil. Archbishop Cordoleone should stand fast for Catholic doctrine and declare that Notre Dame de Namur is not a Catholic school but in heresy.
Dear John Patrick,
As a current student and member of the Notre Dame *HIGH SCHOOL BELMONT, I wish to refute the rather poorly supported and narrow-minded comment you made regarding our moral inferiority. Our school is rooted in a devotion to the Catholic Faith, and we had this wonderful man come to speak about learning to love yourself for who you are, and not trying to change yourself to conform to who society thinks you should be. He in fact spoke very little about his married life and involvement with the gay rights movements but spoke about suffering from a life-threatening illness and struggling with depression and self-acceptance. Many students feel that he is an incredible motivational speaker and has provided a great deal of support to our community for several years. Our administration is in no way defying the Catholic Church but I feel that the message of these articles which seek to spew aggression and intolerance is a far cry from the goals and morals of Christianity. I also object to your comment that states that we are indoctrinated in evil, as you clearly have had very little contact with any members of our remarkable community, as if you had you likely would have gotten our name correct (Notre Dame De Namur is a college).
Voice of Reason. While I can fully understand the motivation of wanting to come from what would be considered a ‘reasonable’ position in society, what I do not understand is how you can equate this new rationale with what is reasonable Catholic teaching. Reasonably speaking, those who are Catholic in word and action should take the position against homosexual marriage/sex as that is what the Church has always taught from the beginning.
So saying it is reasonable in the extreme for Catholics who hold the traditions of 2000+ years to find it evil that so-called Catholics of the present era would embrace an objectively disordered lifestyle. And being taught as much by those who purport to represent the Catholic Church and Her teachings. That last is disingenuous in the extreme as this ‘new’ doctrine is precisely that – NEW. Not renewed, not restored, not reinterpreted, but 180 degrees in the opposite direction. Hence the term evil.
But if what you have been taught from the beginning is the world’s rationale and not that which is Catholic, of course you would take offense. Because you have been taught that which is not Catholic under the name. That too is evil in that it is not honest. Had these religious broken with the Church to teach this new doctrine, at least they would be clear. But this dissimulation and covertness helps no one.
You would do well to have a genuine Catholic speaker for your little motivational ‘needs’, voice…and your condescending and snotty little diabtribe directed to a genuinely concerned Catholic really rankles. Your beligerant, sanctimonious attitude reflects the many poorly educated (through not fault of your own, I must add) snobby and pretentious college students of today. Thank God there are marvellous, genuinely Catholic schools such as St.Thomas Aquinas, Wyoming Catholic College, Ava Maria Univ. and Franciscan U. to name but a few, that have intelligent, respectful and spirit-filled young Catholics who would never tolerate a homosexual ‘motivational’ speaker and would not write a post like you’ve written! Shame on you. I would be heart broken if a child of mine held such disrespectful views. Pelosi, Biden and the rest of the pro-abortion/pro-homosexual marriage mob all claim to be good and faithful Catholics as well. You may go on to be a faithful democrat but don’t deceive yourself that you’re Catholic. I’m sorry that for one so young you’ve already committed yourself to the easy, downward slope away from the faith. God be with you on your journey and I pray that you find your way to the true path. It would be harder to follow but infinitely more rewarding.
Your comment was incredibly rude…you shared your opinion, and she shared hers. I thought this was supposed to be a respectful discussion?
Respectful, yes, but truthful, Anonymous. Do not sacrifice truth for perceived niceties. No doubt, Satan has the most impeccable manners.
‘snotty little diatribe’
‘pretentious college students’
‘objectively disordered lifestyle’
‘disingenuous in the extreme’
Get a life people and stop spending your lives denigrating people that you don’t even know.
Getting a life goes both ways, YFC. You’re pretty thick on CCD. (Would that indicate you have no life?)
Your actions and ire would indicate that someone(s) has obviously struck a cord with you for you toss out the same kind of terms you use on those with whom you disagree. Ad nauseum.
Buck up, Sir, and take it like a Catholic. This isn’t the Huffington Post.
Thing is, the ones with whom you disagree are not giving you ‘their’ message, but rather that which comes from a higher authority. One you seem to want to redefine.
Voice of Reason – You say Greg Cassin “spoke very little about his married life and involvement with the gay rights movements but spoke about suffering from a life-threatening illness…” While I am sorry Mr Cassin is suffering from HIV, it would be more honorable for him to share about the dangers of the homosexual lifestyle (HIV, STD’s, drug addiction, depression, etc) and warn others not to engage in homosexual practices given he has first handedly suffered the consequences of his lifestyle choices, rather than continuing to push the lifestyle by promoting the “be who you are” mentality.
Is it hateful to want to warn others to avoid life threatening illnesses by abstaining from sexual practices that lead to disease Voice of Reason?
Your message is full of hate and uneducated. You are generalizing and condemning a school of accepting women that you have no knowledge of. You preach about a religion if acceptance and love, but you spread a message of hate and isolation. You need to take a look into your motivation and close-mindedneas and think if God would be proud of how you are acting.
Accepting Catholic, you may want to assess what precisely it is that you accept. Is it Catholic teaching? Or Catholic dissent?
Please do not confuse your perception of motivation with what actual motivates Catholics who are faithful to the fullness of Church teachings. To abhor sin and the repercussions thereof is not hate, but being Christlike. Our Lord never countenanced sin. And it is not a matter of making anyone ‘proud’, but rather a passing on of the Truth, whole and entire, so that future generations have the capacity to recognize Truth, follow it, and save their souls.
That is what is supposed to be preached, Accepting Catholic, not the acceptance of that which is inherently sinful as inherently good just because modern society would have it so. That is why a school of accepting women might be all well and good, but an ‘accepting’ school that puts itself forward as Catholic, while teaching that which is not Catholic, even by way of omission, is a call for concern.
It is disingenuous. Even as it would be disingenuous for a married woman to mingle with single men, giving every indication of being available for dating etc, while knowing all-the-while that she is committed to another. No there is nothing wrong with people being friends, per se, but giving the impression of being one thing when you are bound to be something else is neither charity or even a good example.
The hate groups are those who are trying to violate the religious rights of Catholics under the I Amendment to the US Constitution. The martyrs would have told these hateful perverted individuals that same-sex marriage violates the Law of God, whether or not they accept it.
The Martyrs “WILL” tell those perverts including the ones on this Site “that same-sex marriage violates the Law of God, whether or not they accept it.” Unfortunately for their poor souls they will refuse to listen.
On reading “The Mystical City of God, by Blessed Mary of Agreda” it becomes very clear that Our Blessed Mother tried to convince Judas Iscariot of the evil of his ways, and he did not listen as well and is probably in Hell for it!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher, Founding Director
Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc
Maureen Huntington supports HS teachers that go against the church’s teachings
She was recently on Bay Area Catholic appealing for funds for Catholic Schools in the Mission. I suggest no one support this appeal until we have assurance that Catholic Schools at all levels are faithful to ALL the teachings of the Catholic Church. It would be better for them to close if they are teaching heresy as seems evident by the articles highlighted on this site. Maureen Huntington has no idea what’s going on.
The Archbishop needs control over his Catholic schools! And he needs to excommunicate bad teaching nuns, as well as men like Cassin, immediately!
No one tells Cassin and other homosexuals what they can and can not do.
No one tells him what they can and cannot say, or who they can and cannot assemble with. No one tells them not to march in their homosexual parades (parades which I find very very offensive).
Homosexuals are trying to deny the Constitutionally guaranteed rights to freedom of speech and freedom to peacefully assemble to other Americans including the Archbishop.
They are trying to deny others their freedom of Religion.
No matter what they say or do, SODOMY is a MORTAL SIN.
May God bless Archbishop Cordileone.
Really? You think the Catholic Church doesn’t tell gay people what they can and cannot do? Besides what is contained in the Catechism, which in parts tells gay people EXACTLY what not to do, they raise money and campaign against marriage rights for gay people, in essence telling the entire country what gay people can and cannot do. Who are you trying to kid when you say that nobody tells homosexuals what to do? That’s ALL some people do.
This is not a matter of only March for Marriage.
It is a fight against homosexuals who do not want people to be able to have Freedom of Religion, freedom of speech, and freedom to assemble – because they do not agree with it.
HOMOSEXUALS want to SILENCE and PUNISH anyone who disagrees with them.
March for Marriage:
Pete, The Archbishop of San Francisco, Archbishop Cordileone disagrees with you. He says the march was not anti-LGBT or anti anything.
And you appear to disagree with yourself, YFC, as your words on “Nancy Pelosi jumps on the anti-Cordelieone bandwagon,” would indicate:
June 20, 2014 at 11:42 am
It also proves the the Abp Cordileone was being disingenous when he wrote that the march wasn’t anti-LGBT or anti anything. It was obviously a march against gay marriage despite his dissembling.
So which is it YFC? Are you dissembling? Being disingenuous? All signs point to yes, but then we do not need to read the signs, but rather your own words.
In one case I am telling you what the Archbishop says, and in another post I am telling you what he his actions project. It is the Archbishop who says one thing but does another, hence he is the one who is disingenuous.
Do you know the Archbishop, YFC? If you do not, then your admonishment above for others to ‘get a life’ and stop denigrating those whom they do not know is exceedingly disingenuous.
As an educated man, you are more than capable of seeing that your actions and posts seem to seek an authoritative immunity with regard to passion and tone while at the same time you adopt the attitude of victim when others invoke a righteously motivated passion and tone. Others, YFC, who seek to defend the fullness of Truth within the Catholic Church to which you insist you are attached.
Let’s not play games.
Thank God there is now a faithful successor of the Apostles standing up to the demons who control Sodom-by-the-Sea.
See article headline.
The person whose quotes were most thrown in our faces at the REC (WRECK) were those sad statements by Pope Francis. Please explain yourself. When has he really stood up to any of this? If you meant Archbishop Cordileone, that is another subject and we agree he is one of the better of the lot!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Thank God for Bishop Cordileone.
Please, someone send this deceived sodomite the following pamphlet:
Any “Catholic” school he teaches at and or speaks at IS NO LONGER CATHOLIC! Archbishop Cordileone, for the sake of the souls God has placed under his care and for his own soul, should make it official!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Kenneth … Does your tag line mean t you think both America AND His Church are immoral?
C&H as it stands the Church is immoral, with its infestation of gay clerics,,,as for America its circling the drain….
You got me laughing, Canisius, with your “circling the drain” comment. It is pretty close to it I would say.
If not even the Most Blessed Mother could convince Judas to change his damning ways, what good would you expect sending these confirmed Sodomites and pamphlet would do?
They would do exactly what Judas did to Our Blessed Mother, he held her into his self damning contempt! In fact in many ways they are already showing such contempt for Our Lord and His Mother!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Juergensen BUT ITS WORTH A TRY! SO please do what you suggested! Don’t wait on others to lead, you lead!
ITS Worth a try! Persevere with fortitude!
Well we’ve already wasted a lot of “ink” on Cassin on too many other posts. He’s an “activist” who is against the Sacrament of Marriage between one man and one woman–which also means he doesn’t believe that children deserve to raised by a mother AND a father. This man should NOT be teaching impressionable children in our Catholic schools–or any school for that matter. Why he has been allowed to do so for more than 20 years is scandalous and has brain washed many already.
Pray for the Abp and all good Bishops and Priests who stand up to the tyranny of the homosexuals, and heretical, and immoral politicians.
To: N. Pelosi, J. Biden, J. Kerry, A. Cuomo, J. Brown, and other heretical and schismatic Catholics –
“Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord. …… For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself.” 1 Cor 23-32.
CCC: ” 2286 Scandal can be provoked by laws or institutions, by fashion or opinion.
Therefore, they are guilty of scandal who establish laws or social structures leading to the decline of morals and the corruption of religious practice,
or to “social conditions that, intentionally or not, make Christian conduct and obedience to the Commandments difficult and practically impossible.”
This is also true of business leaders who make rules encouraging fraud, teachers who provoke their children to anger,
or manipulators of public opinion who turn it away from moral values. “
We need more mental institutions so we can lock up the crazies. In the meantime, maybe all the homosexuals can leave the rest of us, who are trying to adhere to the teachings of the Church, alone.
I am offering Mass today for Ab. Cordileone, the March and traditional marriage between one man and one woman. God help us all.
Urgent! I had an email from our bishop asking everyone to please pray for the people of Iraq. The Dominican Sisters there have requested this. Pray for them (especially our Christian family) tonight at 6 pm your time. Urgent!!!
Please remember our brothers and sisters in Nigeria, too. I heard on EWTN yesterday that the Vatican estimates that over a hundred thousand Christians each are killed by muslims. We take our safety and comfort too much for granted. Did you know that there’s a rainbow flag flying under the American flag at our embassies around the world? We’re under attack as well, from within by our own gov’t.
What will it take for the Catholic Church in America to wake up and understand the depravity in homo-sexual lifestyle? I see too many desiring to “accommodate” them in order to show “mercy”. (It’s ok for them, that’s how they are.) However, it clearly states, “no one can serve two masters…” No one encourages hate, but there is an element of desire to do good, be virtuous and courageous when one receives and understands the Truth. That element or desire out weighs any support for gay marriage. Please support Bishop Cordileone and other Bishops who stand up for LIFE! Pray for them!
I wish Anonymous were corrrect when s/he writes “No one encourages hate, but there is an element of desire to do good, be virtuous and courageous when one receives and understands the Truth.”
Some – not all, but some – DO encourage hate. There can be no other way to interpret a statement otherwise when people either compare gay people or gay marriage with naziism, satanism, pedophilia, destruction of the world, bestiality and much more.
Archbishop Cordileone may not have said these things, but by cosponsoring events and appearing on stage with those who do say these things, he is giving an imprimatur to their hateful speech. So, anonymous, if you really want our Church to not encourage hate, and I really believe you have that desire, then you have to ask our leaders to not lend credence to those who do, very clearly, encourage hate.
I’ve noticed that many of the people here who use the term “hate speech” connote hate with disapproval. Hate is not disapproval…according to my dictionary, hate is “having an aversion to, accompanied by ill will”. Synonyms are abhor, detest, abominate and loathe. To disapprove means ” to pass judgment upon, to condemn, to regard as wrong.” There is absolutely no one here expressing hate whether liberal or conservative, as far as I can see. Hate is an abused word and personally, I think it’s become like the ‘f’ word and has been so overused it no longer has any power to shock or wound. I have never heard a traditional Catholic accuse anyone of hate speech…it is a liberal cliche used to silence anyone who DISAPPROVES of them. Liberals don’t use hate speech either…they merely lie, frequently.
Dana, if you are referencing my use of the word “hate”, I am not using it as a synonym for disapproval. I am using it for people who demonstrate their revile of the hated ones by their use of extraordinary measures to spread lies about the hated ones. Simply disagreement about, let’s say same sex marriage, or even same sex relations, does not warrant the label of ‘hate’ from me, nor by the way, to the Southern Poverty Law Center. Since hatred is something internal to the person, we have to look to external behavior to infer hatred. I infer hatred when people go to extraordinary lengths to spread lies about me, or cultivate violence against me. That seems pretty straighforward, doesn’t it Dana?
Well, I don’t think anyone here ‘hates’ you at all, YFC. People get impatient and frustrated in discussions, but I know if you were in trouble, there’s not a person here who would not want to help you! That’s why we spend so much time here trying to open your eyes…we don’t want you to be tricked into going to hell. As I said quite awhile ago, I was a liberal for a time in my youth and remember feeling that I had ‘woken’ up once I began to see the utter lies I had swallowed whole, without even questioning. I think hate is wishing someone would go to hell. I’ve thought about what hell would be like and I think it is that place that Jesus called the ‘cold, outer darkness’ and a ‘gnashing of teeth’…there would be nothing but utter blackness, despair, and a longing for light and warmth that could never be appeased. There would be no recognition, no friendship, and the worse punishment, no love, because God is our source of all love, light and knowing and we said no to Him. He doesn’t cast people into hell…they choose it by following their own desires. When anyone says ‘No, I will not obey!” to God we’re saying ‘Yes! Doing it my own way is worth giving up eternal life!” Anyone who thinks the old Sinatra song, “I Did It My Way” is admirable should rethink Jesus’ simple warning…”He who is not for me is against me.”
In case part of my long reply gets cut…There would be no recognition, no friendship, and the worse punishment, no love, because God is our source of all love, light and knowing and we said no to Him. He doesn’t cast people into hell…they choose it by following their own desires. When anyone says ‘No, I will not obey!” to God we’re saying ‘Yes! Doing it my own way is worth giving up eternal life!” Anyone who thinks the old Sinatra song, “I Did It My Way” is admirable should rethink Jesus’ simple warning…”He who is not for me is against me.” Also, we’re held accountable for all those we mislead into making sinful choices, so it’s not just our own salvation we should worry about. Hope that was straightforward enough. (and I have had people spread lies about me too…it’s hateful, indeed, but I’ve come to realize that as long as God knows the truth, I have to let the sadness go or their lies continue to hurt me)
YFC – homosexual act, as well as adultery, and fornication are all mortal sins.
There is no such thing as indicating that “My Mortal Sin is better than Your Mortal Sin.
Loving our Neighbor means wanting him or her to get to Heaven for eternity. Keep your eye on the prize.
We must NEVER Tolerate Mortal Sin of any kind,
Megan, if you don’t tolerate mortal sin, then you should be intolerant of the language that goes on here when it describes gay people as members of a gestapo, of being child molesters, of being depraved, etc etc.
People, homosexual or heterosexual, who push the homosexual sex agenda complete with attempts to gag others by way of branding them haters are not the innocents you’d portray them to be, YFC. And there is no mortal sin in calling in being honest in that regard. Even if the language used is salty, so to speak.
That said, salty language is not mortal sin, unlike the homosexual sex that is being pushed off as seemingly inconsequential depending upon one’s pov. Big difference, YFC, as you know being a Catholic and all.
Ann, have you ever read the ten commandments…the one where we are forbidden from bearing false witness against our neighbor. Salty language is not at all what we are talking about. We are talking about people who put hatred into action by repeatedly lying about others.
CCC 2nd edition elaborates starting at paragraph 2482: “‘A lie consists in speaking falsehood with the intention of deceiving’. The Lord denounces lying as the work of the devil: ‘You are of your father the devil,… there is no truth in him. When he lies he speaks according to his own nature for his a liar and the father of lies.'” and it continues through 2487, calling saying “a lie does real violence to another.
Surely you understand the difference between “salty language” and lies. Especially when those lies are intentional, resistant to correction, and knowingly inflict pain and damage to others. Maybe you should try recrognizing the lies around you and call them out for what they are.
If Archbishop Cordileone is compelled to speak the truth about marriage, why is he not compelled to speak the truth about sodomy – one of the four most evil sins that cry out to God for vengeance?
Archbishop “Heart-of-the-Lion”, God will harshly judge those who fail to tell the whole truth. What the same-sex marriage seekers want is total sexual depravity – with anyone or thing they lust after. The marriage issue is bogus.
Listen up, bishops, archbishops, cardinals, and the Pope. Caving in to evil by ignoring it leads to more pervasive evil.
The ‘Politics of Adversarial Terminology’ is mostly ‘half glass’ sophistry (half full vs half empty), and often simply paints a happy face on a great evil; with the expectation that anyone who dares say the ’empress of feminism’ is not only unclothed, but ugly to boot…
Should be stood against the wall and administered Alinskyite ‘People’s Justice’, not to be confused with so much ‘social justice’ – which is far less tolerant than a firing squad, who at least get the mau mauing over quickly.
Law Professor Mike Adams is one of the greatest De-Constructors of the ‘GILBERT’ Agenda in Academentia, and his insights on the Townhall website are important to anyone who wants to understand how Political Terminology is gaily used by Anti-Catholic activists in a most ‘happy’ manner:
Those who provide Headlines for stories at CCD should consider Adams Analysis of the terms in various Townhall articles before validating them by quotation:
Queer Theories and Theologies – by Mike Adams
“…Some years ago, a man asked for my opinion on why his good friend, an atheist, had decided to go to Yale Divinity School. I told him that the Enemy could do more harm trying to destroy an institution from within than from without.
And so it is with the so-called GLBT (Gilbert) movement.
Um, cute. But you’re letters are out of order. It’s generally coalesced into LGBT, Ladies First and all.
Maybe your mortal enemy is the dreaded LEGBERTS? Log Bots? Le Gabbits? Leg Bites? Lego Brats?
Or maybe it’s easier to try to make a valid point without resorting to acting like an elementary school bully?
Maybe we gay women could be LESBIONICS.
Hey Anonymous take this! C&H displayed true Pride! She is proud to be a “gay” woman first! Anonymous you need to better discern who really are the proud. I’ll be praying for you some more!
Abeca … huh? …you seem really angry. To the extent I, or anyone, puts any part of who they are “first”, being gay isn’t it for me. Why are you angry at me?
C&H I;m sorry my reply to you on your one comment where you describe yourself as a gay woman (you sounded proud of it and I asked you to please be a Catholic Christian first not a gay woman who is proud of it over your duty to honoring God.) didn’t go through. So I won’t rewrite it from its original state. Just know that I have the heart for you in Jesus and your conversion because you are worth it, like I said before, the heavens will rejoice when your true conversion is embraced by you) So I can see why you assume that I am angry. I’m sorry, not angry. I’m sure there are other better words that most fit but I’ll let you have a go at it. I’ll pray that you’ll get it right though.
Now about Anonymous, well its just a response to help anonymous discern where true pride is rooted. I’m sorry to have put in you in the middle. Anonymous has an obsession to correct and teach “us” regulars but surely misses a precious opportunity to address your comments, which truly need a loving correction. But hey who am I? Right, you don’t have to listen to me sweets. You are not an ignorant soul, I know you know better.
haha. Abeca, we’re being disrespectful. I don’t know about you, but I remember being taught to respect my elders, weren’t you? Often I got some pretty sharp scolds from my elders because I knew just a whole lot then! heh heh One thing that never occured to me was to talk to them like they were the age of my friends. ( I wanted to keep living, for one thing!) I think it’s time for me to take another break, friend. I can only take so much imbecility disguised as political correctness and sexual perversion praised and forced on us and our society…our children! as a ‘civil right’! My BSometer is beeping red alert! red alert! just a little too often to be acceptable lately. I will cling to the truth and beauty of Jesus and the teachings and traditions of our beloved Church buckle and thong and keep praying. I’ll be back in a week or two. Hugs.
I’m sorry Dana if I came off disrespectful to you. Please forgive me. I understand the week or two kind of thing. I may just follow your good example on that too. tee hee
No, no Abeca! I was referring to another poster saying some of us as being disrespectful when we are merely disagreeing with them. You’re never disrespectful to anyone that I’ve ever noticed. You’re a sweetie. You often remind me of a kitten hissing when you are defending the faith .
Lol thanks Dana. : ) I get it now. You are sweet too, always sharing the faith in your own special way. We are no nonsense kind of gals. Straight forward. Tee hee
I don’t take kindly to any sort of dissent. Offending God should offend us all, because we should be one with our Lord. We may be human but there is no excuse to not follow Him. He is deserving of all our love and our best, as best as we know and can and better, and then some more. : )
I’m pretty sure the letter reversal was deliberate hugh. Everyone knows it’s BLT…hold the mayo and the G just signifies a good BLT as opposed to a BBLT, a bad one. Comprende, amigo? You need only ask and many of us here are most happy to assist you in circumnavigating the slippery slope of liberalspeak. Oh, and a word to the wise, one must first understand that in breaking the code, love means hate, peace means war, and truth must always be a lie.
LGBT is so wonderfully awkward and ridiculous, it’s virtually impossible to mock. Why bother? It’s entertaining to see Michael try to turn it into a taunt. It doesn’t work.
The G used to come before the L. Somewhere along the line it’s coalesced into LGBT uniformly. Don’t know who decides these things. It reminds me of BLT too, but I’ve gotten used to it. The all-inclusiveness is nice, but something more elegant that indicated ‘other’ would work better.
Newspeak is not necessarily liberalspeak. for instance:
* Natural Law (as generally understood) is diametrical in a lot of ways with the nature of physics.
* Truth (in caps) as often used on CCD is often in direct conflict with empirical truth. It often means biblical literalism, or subjectiv
* Framing bigotry or outright hate as ‘compassion’ or ‘charity’ is theater of the absurd. Truly love meaning hate.
Don’t know about peace meaning war, but there’s lots of perceived war where none exists.
I’m sorry, Hugh. I just found your post whilst looking for that discussion on Kinsey. I will only note one thing in your response, as to be honest, I don’t really get where you’re coming from, but I do know that empirical evidence is as relevant to a discussion on supernatural faith and Catholic teachings as using a ruler to measure mercy.
In our family, BLT means Battalion Landing Team.
Rick Santorum (former Senator / Presidential Candidate – despised like the Church & Arch-Bishop by the lamesteam ‘GILBERT’ media for) recently spoke to Graduates at Trinity Christian School.
His words were brief and yet as directly to the point on the shame of Indoctrination passing as ‘Education’ in Academentia – and the Pressure on Students to Deny their Faith as they ‘matriculate’ through the bowels of a tenured beast as opposed to the Freedom of Speech as they are of Religion.
His Analysis of the Current Situation, whereby nearly 60% of Catholic / Christian High School Graduates ‘abandon’ their Faith in College (& how it happens -not just due to peer pressure but professors punishing dissenters from the Alinskite Agenda) – is as masterful as his Advice on how and why We Can and Should Stand Up to such a culture of Evil Lies – ultimately emanating from the ‘Father of Lies’.
If the young are subverted without opposition because the Church of ‘nice / mice’ is too craven to name and oppose such Evil – then it is the Failure of Adults to carry out one of Jesus’ most important Commands – to Care for the Children….
– And not place a GILBERT Millstone around Their and the Future Church’s Necks, that will most certainly sink us all – as so many of these type GILBERTS Demand.
The Honorable Rick Santorum’s 2014 Commencement Address at Trinity Christian School
Rather than simply bemoaning the takeover of Academentia by radical Misandrist GILBERTS (admittedly a redundancy) – We (the Church & Faithful) Should be Pro-Active in Promoting both open Debate and championing Good during such.
If the Institutions of the Church have been Infiltrated / Infested to the point where only the building and funding are Catholic – then either evict Cromwell’s Horse stables & their academic byproduct from them, or tear it down and build anew:
Here is an article about one such attempt – that may spark some ideas for Positive Renewal based on Facts long suppressed by the Twysted Systerhood – Misandrist Womyn who only claim to speak for Women, but seem to do so given the censorship of other voices:
“New Online Conservative University Offers Course on “Sex, Lies & Women’s Studies” By Cortney O’Brien
Feminist courses are hard to escape these days on college campuses. Projects and readings suggesting we live in an oppressive patriarchal society are now the norm. Thankfully, however, a new online conservative university is offering an alternative to these misleading messages.
I wish we ‘Church Militant’ could all get together like what happened in Boson when Harvard was going to allow a ‘black mass’ (sickening) to take place!
There was Exposition of the Blessed Sacrament on the street with all kinds of real Catholics and then the Church they went to, was so full, that people were standing outside the Church! THAT IS WHAT WE NEED, BIG TIME!!!!!
What must be a shock to Cassin, Pelosi et al. is that the present occupant of the SF Cathedra actually is forcefully speaking in support of traditional marriage and Gospel values. Perhaps the last time a serious defense of the Catholic moral life was consistently made might have been under Abps. Mitty (d. 1961) and his successor, McGucken, based on priests who were witnesses during their day. (Then Abp. Levada did in Apr. 2005 march in support of traditional Catholic marriage, but to me at least, most of his leadership appeared spasmodic and ineffective.) Cordileone has to clean up the Augean stables created especially by Niederauer and John Raphael Quinn (much like Olmsted in Phoenix and now Barber in Oakland). It will take time. And we havent heard the last of it from GILBERT (hat-tip to M. McDermott).
Gillbert & Sullivan ?
Actually, the good Archbishop Cordileone will increasingly need to defend why he finds it necessary to appear on an altar of hate with those who would call us every manor of satanist, pedofile, bestialitist, naziist, etc.
Let him come to us and tell us why he needs to spread his message by appealing to these hate mongers, sharing an altar with them, and giving them his imprimatur .
The “good archbishop” does not need to justify himself to you or anybody else. He is answerable only to Almighty God. How dare you demand he come and grovel to you! It is you who are the hate monger. You and all those pushing the homosexual agenda. If you don’t like the teachings of the Catholic Church, you can leave anytime.
“Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of ETERNAL FIRE.” (Jude 1:7)
March de Triomphe! (FRC)
Whoever said the marriage debate was over must not have been anywhere near the U.S. Capitol this morning.
After months of hearing the courts’ opinion on marriage, today America heard from the voters those courts trampled. Thousands of people from states all across the country descended on Washington, D.C. to show the nation that we care about protecting marriage and will do anything to stand up and fight for it. Pro-family groups like FRC, churches, state activists, and cultural leaders gathered on the lawn of the most powerful Congress in the world and sent one resounding message: the fight for marriage is not over.
More than 150 buses, filled with the marriage supporters the media insists do not exist, cheered through the passionate speeches of Republicans and Democrats, blacks and Hispanics, and the young and old — all united in the belief that marriage is “our very nature. No law can change it.”
Senator Rick Santorum, Governor Mike Huckabee, the Catholic Church’s Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone, and leaders from across the Hispanic and African American communities rallied the crowd with the reminder that we are not marching for a cause that’s lost. “You want a social program that cannot fail?” asked Reverend Eugene Rivers, “Support traditional marriage and the family.”
Please tell us of any Democrat speakers in Office who were there if you can! Having been an Officer in both Parties, I highly doubt that you can.
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
The Catholic Church in the U.S., if not the world, is at a tipping point, in my opinion. I know of very few people in charge of our elementary schools who believe that the primary purpose of those schools is to pass on the faith completely. They like to say that they are a school in the catholic tradition. I have no idea what that means. Step one, it seems to me is for the Bishops and the Pastors to get control of the schools and ensure that they are primarily teaching the faith. Then they can concentrate on the academics. A second step would be for all Pastors to teach the Catholic faith to the adults through required parent meetings, extensive Bible study in their parishes and in small Christian group communities. Third, Pastors should preach the faith from the
Ambo. How many people know what the Nicene Creed really says? Because we are Catholic and Christ died on the cross for the remission of our sins, we are required to do “social justice.” But, first we must know what His death means, how it impacts our lives and how it requires that we have a close relationship with Him. If we did these three simple things we could bring about major change in our religious lives in less than three generations.
Would you also want them to teach the truth about homosexual lifestyles? Your answer to that question would tell a lot!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Kenneth, of course! My comment above referred to teaching the faith completely. I’m not sure what you are driving at.
When teaching the faith, full and entire, adequate definitions of terms is required, Bob One. Otherwise, one can be teaching a completely different idea while supposedly using the same words.
Because we are Catholic and Christ died on the cross for the remission of our sins, we are required to do “social justice….Utter nonsense….but typical
Canisius thank you ! Your comments here have conveyed that you do keep your eye’s fixed on Jesus! Thank you for leading in that great example! The issues we face its because people do not keep their eye’s on Jesus, they are always looking at their fellow man and what he is up to instead of fixing their eye’s on Jesus! That is why we are having problems with even Catholics because they are fixed on much of secular things and ways. They are putting aside Jesus and visiting Him, only when its most convenient for them and even when they feel that they should “tell” Jesus who it should be. This is deeply rooted in pride.
God help us focus in Him. Jesus our love and our savior!
abeca, social justice is Commandments 4-10.
Anonymous don’t try to teach me a thing or two…..you are not my teacher…
Discernment! You can’t learn from and follow dissenters. People have to discern who to learn from and not. So stop trying to brain wash me into your thinking! Those who dissent want the church to change and are working very hard to brain wash people.
I have pride in my faith and I follow Jesus! NOT anonymous posters. It is wise to be weary of whom to follow and learn from. If anyone comes off as accepting sodomy lifestyles, the right thing to do is to stay away.
It is not pride, Anonymous, to relate the truth when confronted with ambiguity or the misrepresentation of said truths. The commandments are to be followed as they are, not reinterpreted under the moniker ‘social justice’ to advocate for much that is sin itself, but considered socially praiseworthy.
God does not work against Himself which is why invoking ‘social justice’ to gird up that which promotes sin – contraception, abortion, homosexual ‘marriage’ under the auspices of not judging and/or charity – is a gross and blasphemous misrepresentation.
So while you brand another as prideful, you may want to consider your own blindness in leveling such an erroneous charge as you seem confused about the proper definition of terms.
Corporal works of mercy, yes. Social justice that slowly seeks to eliminate God’s justice, no.
Nonsense to you, Canisius, but a basic teaching of the Catholic Church. We are called to live our faith, are we not?
Yes Live Our Faith but not according to Democrat party talking points…
Canasius, perhaps this will help: Salvation in Roman Catholicism is a process. To begin this process, God grants actual grace to a person which enables him to believe in Christ (CCC 2000) and also believe in the truth of the Catholic Church (CCC 1814). After belief, the person must be baptized, which is necessary for salvation (CCC 1257). This baptism erases original sin (CCC 405), unites the person with Christ (CCC 977), infuses grace into the person (CCC 1999), and grants justification (CCC 1992, 2020). After baptism, he is then saved. But, to maintain his salvation it is necessary for him to perform good works (CCC 2010, 2068, 2080) and participate in the sacraments (CCC 1129) which provide grace that is “proper to each sacrament” (CCC 1129, 2003).
Your leftist definition of “social justice” is the issue here Bob One. I can promise you that I have fed more hungry kids in a war zones than you ever will, I have protected women from gang rapes, and defended with my blood Houses of God. What have you done Bob One given money to the CCHD?
Canisius, I wish I were as wonderful as you describe yourself. No, I haven’t done some of the things you have done, but that does not make me a bad person. But, without getting into details, I am not ashamed of my efforts over the last sixty or seventy years. Why do you define social justice as leftist? It is the teachings of the Church. When we can, we should follow Christ’s teaching as expressed in the Beatitudes. Do you disagree with them? Should we not feed the hungry? Should we not give clothes to those who have none? Should we …? Well, you know! Stop trying to be an ogre and grouch and show your inner soft self.
Bob One, Canisius isn’t saying he is against social justice, but rather the degenerated definition of the term. Much like ecumenism used to mean that all are welcome, it is now seemingly interpreted as the rites/practices of all should be ‘respected’ and accepted. The word love has also been slowly, but surely devolved into that which is sexual or that which accepts bad behavior. Whereas in times past, love was desiring and striving and sacrificing for that which was good for the beloved. Not indulging the beloved in whatever makes them feel good.
So yes, we should feed the hungry, but not only with material things, but also and primarily with the whole Truth which will set them free despite the often inescapable injustices of the material world.
I do maintain that the modern definition of social justice is leftist…you elevate social justice over the salvation of souls.
Anne Malley, you speak with such clarity and understanding that when people don’t get what you’re saying I think,”what am I missing here? Why don’t they see the truth of what you’re saying?” I remember Churchill’s quote: “Americans and British are one people separated only by a common language.” Well, we seem to be one Church separated by only a common belief system. Whadyathink?
“…separated by only a common belief,” is precisely right, Dana. Unfortunately much of our language within the Church seems to have been pushed into – not slipped – the realm of homographs, words that are spelled the same, but pronounced differently and with decidedly different meanings. Think bow vs. bow. Are we inclining our bodies as a show of deference or tying a polka dot one of them around our neck? Or with homonyms, you’ve got scale vs scale. Are we weighing ourselves or climbing a wall?
Confusion happens rather quickly when using the vernacular of any language where people and regions insert themselves and their feelings about the word via sloppy usage or ‘cultural’ norms.
That was one of the reasons that having Latin as the language of the Church is so ideal. The language is dead and therefore the usage does not change. Very convenient when wanting to keep the meaning of the message clear over time. Very, very bad when one wants to insert uncertainty and ambiguity over the long term and change Truth.
Regarding those who say, “I just don’t get what you say,” and then continue to write their own opinion without asking for clarity, those I would identify as just plain lazy or rabid ideologues. They understand the meaning all too well and choose to disrupt or dismiss conversation.
I agree Bob One, but due to legitimate family requirements, many Catholics cannot attend classes on a regular basis.
However, every literate Catholic can find time to read the BIBLE and the “CATECHISM of the CATHOLIC CHURCH, Second Edition”
at HOME instead of watching TV or playing on the computer, ipad , etc.
Many Bishops and their Diocese Priests do not encourage this on their web sites, Church bulletins, and homilies.
Like a good father, the Bishop’s job is to TEACH, CORRECT, and DISCIPLINE when necessary – as accord with the Doctrine of the Faith in entirety (as contained in the CCC).
Regarding Catholic, schools we need more of this:
Bishops and Priests Souls are at stake – when they do not do their jobs.
This is actually a pretty great post Bob One, I’d say one of the best comments I’ve ever read here on CCD.
I wish I had written it myself. It was on a web site that I sourced. I guess that would get me an F in college. I should have used two sources, then it would have been research instead of plagiarism. Sorry!
Been reading the coverage of the March for Marriage. Most of it is on gay or religious blogs. Very little in mainstream media. Why did it flop? I don’t know. Probably because people don’t really care. I support the Church’s stand that God wills that marriage should be between a man and a woman, exclusive and lifelong. That is the ideal. The Catholic Church has always taught that it is a mortal sin to contract a civil marriage. So nothing has changed there. What I notice though, on the gay blogs and the religious blogs is a gross idealization of what marriage really is. Marriage is a state of penance. There are so many divorces because people decide they want out of the pain and the boredom and the anger and the frustration. Marriage is not fun. When divorce was rare, people understood this. The sex don’t last; the love don’t last; the romance don’t last. In the old days, the commitment lasted and if you were blessed enough to get to old age together, you became reconciled to your life and to your spouse. If gay people knew what marriage really was, they would not be asking for it. The single people I know are much happier; have a lot more freedom and money and time to do what they want. They are not lonely because they have friends and fulfilling work. They don’t have to stick in jobs they hate because they have to put food on the table.
The March for Life in DC had approx. 450,000 marchers.
It is not reported in most secular media, because the media only reports in favor of their own bias. They want to control society by what they do and do not report, and how they report it.
Anonymous, your statements on Marriage must have come from those gay sites you frequent, or trolls posting on Religious sites (trolls pretending to be Catholic.)
Catholic bloggers adhere to Church teaching in entirety as stated within the CCC. – That’s how you can tell.
Occasionally a Catholic heretic or schismatic will post.
No Religious site would promote the things about marriage that you have printed. In fact in the case of the Catholic Church, what you printed about marriage violates Church teaching.
There is one media that has been condemned since 1968. It FRAUDULENTLY uses the name “Catholic” to dupe readers – the “National Catholic REPORTER”.
We were taught in the Catholic Church that only with the grace of the sacrament of Matrimony could a marriage survive. Civil marriages were doomed to dissolution and disaster. Even with the grace of the Sacrament, marriage is very difficult. I should have attributed the quote “Marriage is a state of penance.” to its source-St. Jacinta of Fatima. Back then there were only two vocations-religious life and matrimony. I used to be a little resistant when they added the single vocation but I have seen how much good is done by singles who are dedicated to the Lord. I can see how you misunderstood what I wrote. Please read CCC 1606-1609, 1615.
Jacinta of Fatima died of influenza when she was 10 years old,
You’ve got things mixed up.
She wouldn’t have clue what you are talking about regarding Marriage.
Don’t believe or print everything you read on the internet, and certainly don’t reprint it unless you have checked it out.
My marriage is a bit of Heaven, my best friend, my love. Marriage is a Sacrament instituted by God.
Yes singles have a vocation as well. All can get to heaven if they do God’s will, and put Him above all.
Paul, when Jaciinta was in the hospital, her nurse wrote down things that she said. I remember it from a book published long before the internet existed. I will see if I can find it and will post here if I do. In the meantime, I have found a quote by Anne Catherine Emmerich which states ” Marriage is a state of penance.” I may have confused them. I am getting old.
I am most pleased that your marriage is a bit of Heaven. How long have you been married? Has it always been thus?
You have received a great blessing from the Lord.
That is not the norm.
Be very grateful.
Paul, the idea of a romantic, love fest marriage is a thoroughly modern idea. Because of the economic security and excellent health care in this country, married couples are fairly free to engage in travel, friendships, visit their loved ones etc, without undue stress and many have the luxury of having privacy and time alone. Historically, marriage was a true partnership against real hardship: poverty, sickness, death, lack of privacy, comfort. People knew they were marrying to carry on civilization, the importance of marrying a person that would be a good parent and faithful partner. They avoided marrying sexually promiscuous people which is why society held chastity to be of such importance. They saw the real value of being obedient to the Ten Commandments and the truths of the Bible. I’m not saying they didn’t love each other…I’m just saying I agree with anon. that marriage is very hard work and all the romantic nonsense you see in film and tv doesn’t prepare people for the reality of marriage. I think Fiddler On the Roof says it best in the song, “Do You Love Me?”. I find that those in our church who have the closest marriages are the ones who always turn to each other when we give the sign of peace and it is the single people and those not so caught up with one another who turn to those who are new, old or alone. Just sayin’.
It flopped because it was on a weekday in marginal weather. I’d say send the NOM staff to Event Planning 101 but I don’t think there will be a march next year. In fact I suspect there may not be a NOM next year.
Many Protestant Faiths have more Faithful members than the Catholic Church – because their preachers encourage reading the Bible by everyone who can read.
The Pope and Bishops need to get the LAITY to read the Bible and the CCC.
People can not adhere to what they do not know, nor can they share it with others.
(People are evangelizing almost nothing, because that is what they are taught – almost nothing. They put humans above God and the eternal.)
I blame most US Diocese Bishops for the DISUNITY, HERESY, SCHISM, SCANDALS, SACRILEGE, and RELATIVISM inside the Catholic Church. They have the ability change things, but do not because of their sins of omission (if not commission).
This website surely has some quirks to fix here and there. I quoted some truths and this website just completely lost them. As if the devil did not want it posted, so we should continue to pray for this website, as it is being attacked furiously and we must pray that our Lord will bless us with victory over evil!
Well in short I wanted to say is that I agree with you OSCAR to a point! Some protestants are not so loyal to their biblical roots anymore..many are embracing homosexual lifestyles, immodesty, contraception etc etc. There are still some groups that are to be admired, those who have great convictions in biblical roots, for we can learn from that great example. This does not go without saying though, we do have small groups of Catholics, from within our church, who are very faithful still.
Like St, Jerome once said “ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ” . We need to return to faithfully reading our scriptures and the CCC. We can teach our bishops by leading by example and reminding them of their true duty. My other lost post was better conveyed but since its lost, I can not duplicate it, so this was just done in short.
Oscar, converting from Presbyterianism, I can tell you why this is….Sunday School! Every week between services members from toddlers to the very old attend classes that are devoted to learning the Bible, studying how to deal with social problems from a Biblical perspective, Church history, biographies of great Christians etc. and most Presb. Churches have an extensive library with excellent resources for all age groups. I can’t tell you how much I miss that. You get to know other members and have interesting discussions. You can share particular problems with the group and get help. There are classes for young adults so they have a chance to perhaps meet a life’s mate, etc and old people continue to grow in the faith. It’s a lifetime commitment!
Doesn’t your church have adult ed? And a library?
Ask your pastor if you can start a faith-sharing group or there a lots of adult ed programs in the US. They vary, of course, in quality and focus.
Some older parishes have difficulty finding room for Sunday School for children and adults. Some of our groups meet on weeknights or weekday mornings.
We have a library but it is only one wall of about 5 floor to ceiling bookshelves. Getting the books is easy. Maybe you could have a book drive or just ask in your bulletin for books people don’t want anymore.
I appreciate your response. There is Sunday school for children (I found the books used to be very weak and pointless but better than nothing, I suppose) that meets in the school bkdg, after early service. We have Bible studies once a week in homes for several months out of the year, but not a weekly, year by year study. The library is in part the school library but no one uses it for that reason…inconvenient, no way to access on Sundays, etc. The libraries in the Presb. are usually large, many books and magazines etc, comfortable chairs, often fireplaces, card files, etc. usually near the main worship area …rooms that many people, especially kids, gravitate to. At least that’s the way it used to be…one reason I left was they were being
systematically weakened by the homosexual lobby’s constant pressure at the yearly synods. I have many!! books of my own..but I would love to see more interest in my fellow parishoners to read more and share that joy with their children. The school children have that advantage with excellent facilities and it was a Blue Ribbon school last year. It’s the children who attend public school I worry about. I confess that I’ve been in a number of Catholic churches and I have yet to see a good library. I’m glad to hear that there are some! Thanks for the info!
GILBERT. Grumbling, Lashing-out, Bitter Tyrant(s).
* This article originated at the ‘One News Now’ Website, but quotes the ‘A.P. Wireheads’ (formerly part of the Dean Singleton Propaganda Empire, now morphed in to ‘Digital First Media’) – They changed their name but are still the same ole bunch of Bigoted Gaystapo Censors.
BTW – like the Trolls on this board, the AP Wireheads claim it is about “Anti-Happy” Marriage proponents, but then Trolls still Troll CCD just for the spite of it too.
Supporters of Bible-based marriage rally near U.S. Capitol
– See more at: https://www.onenewsnow.com/ap/religion/supporters-of-bible-based-marriage-rally-near-us-capitol#.U6Rv1ihyHdk
Remember – Big Twysted Syster & hyr Coprophile Cronies Are Watching
(This Board in Particular – as the heavy Troll by Committee presence shows)
– and as one who made the “Lavender Liberal” Stalker List long ago (donated a whole $200, 100 ea. to Two Pro Marriage Groups) – I can assure any and all that the 900 Lb Mozilla Gaystapo Gorilla is ready to pounce on any who fail to pander, preferably abjectly.
“In God we trust…but employers don’t; job-hunters hurt by admitting faith on resume
Wanted: Hard-working individual with job experience, demonstrated leadership and a minimum of two references — those with faith need not apply.
Most of the country might consider itself religious, but according to two recently released studies, admitting one’s faith on a resume can cut the chances for a callback by more than 25 percent…
Could it have anything to do with the Evil Done by ‘our’ Turkey Baster Creationist Court System?
“Why do people hate lawyers so much?
Excerpted from Swimming in Deep Water
According to one commentator, our tendency toward arrogance, egotism, and narcissism might have something to do with it.
Church Militant TV had something to say about the Insiders in the Church working to Destroy it (unlike Arch Bishop Cordileone, a Man and Priest of Piety)..
– And the analysis rings so very true in the wake of the Homosex Ephebophile Infiltration and Attack on the Church & its Adolescent Boys by those Pederasts pretending to be ‘priests’ – and their ongoing soiling of the Church to feed their base behaviors:
This intense crusade against civil gay marriage calls to mind the cautionary words of the great American Protestant theologian Reinhold Niebuhr: “Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt. It is when we are unsure that we are doubly sure.”
Some American bishops seem to realize that they’ve lost the battle of civil gay marriage, that it’s time to move on from a harsh, critical stance and begin instead to develop a more pastoral approach to gays and lesbians. These are the bishops we need to hear from, not the culture warriors who don’t seem to know that this particular war is over.
The journey on the road to HEAVEN or HELL for eternity is not over – until you draw your last breath.
Those that post that it is OK to be “gay” are not interested in pleasing God but themselves. The good Lord have mercy.
Its like living a nightmare today on what indecent people who do not fear the Lord will post. Its like someone wake me up and tell me that this is not hell already, having to deal with comments like those who proudly profess their “gayness”.
Misleading even scandalizing our youth into those sinful lifestyles will have circumstances and you will answer to God for that. I don’t want any part in those offenses against God, against purity, against modesty, against His natural law etc. Even if we have to stand alone, better we be alone in this life doing right by God, then to face eternity in hell. HELL is real folks! But if fearing hell does not make you change, then at least do it for the love of God and because He is derving of all love and all of your goodness. Obey Him, our almighty God, Love Him and Honor Him. I know that its not always easy because the evil one tortures us and taunts and discourages but who ever said that we can’t choose? We can choose to follow Christ and take up our cross. Its not always easy but its worth a try and its in His love and In His strength that we gain strength. Love Him! Adore Him, Want Christ. Just ask Him how. Sometimes we are dry in faith, sometimes we have doubt and we go through our ups and downs but remember this, God is for real. His love is real, His ways are righteous and in the end, He wins. He refreshes us, encourages us and for whatever reason He allows us to go through things that we don’t always understand, well we just have to keep our eye’s fixed on Him!
I watched this video. It is a pack of lies. He is an enemy of the Church. No wonder he is not allowed to use the word Catholic in his program’s name. I have heard he goes to a Traditional Catholic parish that is in communion with Rome but he seems to have no idea what is going on in the Church. My suspicion is that he knows where his money comes from and that if he told the truth, he would lose viewers. He caters to the Catholics who want to believe that the Church is corrupt and that they are the faithful remnant. How can he even be in a state of grace when he bears false witness against Christ? Acts 9:4-5
Anonymous: Try paying attention.
Pope Benedict XVI has publically stated there is “evil within the Church”.
Pope Francis has publically stated “Bring me better Bishops”.
Church Militant TV and Voris fully support the Magisterium of the Church, and the Doctrine of the Faith. He has never been excommunicated for anything, and bears no false witness.
(PROVE using church documentation, that one thing he has stated is false.
Use the CCC, Code of Canon Law, and other Church documents are on the Vatican web site, plus the Church Militant videos.)
Why don’t you start reading the “Catechism of the Catholic Church. Second Edition” and learn about the Catholic Faith ?
Most Bishops do not do their main/’first task’ jobs of: teaching,
correcting, and disciplining when necessary.
Most do not encourage the reading of the Bible and the CCC by the Laity at home.
Most Bishops do not correct public scandal by Catholics.
Most Bishops do not enforce Canon 915.
Need I go on?
(I’m not certain what many of them spend their time doing. But it’s not their jobs.)
There are some good Bishops like Abp Cordileone who teach the Faith by setting a good example. All are not bad apples.
There is no guarantee that all Clergy will get to Heaven.
McDermott, There are two types of child sexual abusers. Stop acting like you are some kind of expert on this!
1. Preferential. These are pedophiles who live their fantasy of having sex with children. Their whole life is based in this fact. They will do whatever it takes to have access to children including; marrying a woman with children; marrying and having children themselves so that they can abuse them. Although they will have sex with adults they do so to get access to children.
2. Situational. These abusers do not have a sexual preference for children. They have sex with child for many reasons including, simple availability, opportunity, curiosity, or a desire to hurt a loved one of the molested child. There are any number of reasons. Their sexual preference however is not children, they prefer adults.
What is distinctly similar here between these abusers is the distinct lack of conscience with their actions.
While it is true that we should not feed the ‘Anonymous Gaystapo Troll’s who regularly trash this board and mau mau members not afraid to sign their own name to their own posts…
A Magic ‘Teaching’ Moment occasionally presents itself that warrants clarification for the great masses (unwashed / washed or sanitized 4 your protection) out there.
It is True that there are Two Kinds of People in the world: Those who believe there are two kinds of people, and those who know better.
It is also True that the overwhelming majority of Attacks on Catholic Youth have been by Homosex Ephebophiles (Homosex Males targeting Adolescent Boys) infiltrating the ranks of the Church by telling any Lie BAMN (by any means necessary)
Some Homosex Males pretend to be ‘priests’ or use Female (XX) ‘Beards’ (Rock Hudson, Michael Huffington, POTUS Barry Soetoro…) – Women who help to disguise their inclinations, like Ariana Huffington when her ‘heterosexual’ husband was running for office, until that scam fell apart.
However – It is pretty much the same bunch of (excrement deleted) being sold; Whether it be Kinsey & his infamous “Table 34” KINSEY, SEX AND LIES https://www.cwfa.org/images/content/table34chart.pdf
again excellent Comments Mr. Michael McDermott !
Pew published an interesting piece yesterday:
It shows Catholics by majority both approving of same-sex unions (63%) and believing they violate religious beliefs (70%).
If the objective was to demonstrate mass dissent, the March for Marriage looked to be a major flop. The most liberal estimates of crowd size were around 5000 (and more realistically around 2000). This in spite of a ton of publicity and high profile speakers.
Even looking at NOM’s own photos of the event, the crowd is pretty sparse:
Yes, Hugh and most Romans loved bread, circuses, and decadence. What the crowd wants has never been an accurate guide as to what the True Faith is
You’re the man! What a charitable and excellent response to Hugh!
I agree Catherine. I’m also thinking of all the occasions in the Bible when it has always been a remnant to carry on the true faith. Look how many died on the journey from Egypt to the promised land! Only a tiny handful survived because they remained steadfast. It was a remnant that rebuilt the temple. No democracy ever lasts long…that’s why our brilliant founding fathers began this nation as a republic built on laws. The terrible changes being wrought now are taking place through the courts, naturally, because the villains know that’s the only way to destroy us. Even if 99% of the Catholic Church says same-sex ‘marriage’ is fine, they’re still not only in great error, but have excommunicated themselves. It has always been so. If anyone takes communion while holding grave sin, the Eucharist becomes a judgment on them, instead of a heavenly food.
…`Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.
1 Corinthians 11:27-32 KJV
You speak the truth, Dana, and yet there will be those who will respond with, “How can you think that the Body of the Lord could be bad for you?” “How mean!” And then feign ultimate ignorance under the umbrella of the new brand of charity that ignores very real consequences. Eternal loss of one’s soul being chief among them.
So suffer the faith… including the attacks by those friends (in this case fellow Catholics) who should be on board with what you’re saying, but are rather choosing the part of the abrasive rock polisher instead of the rock of Faith.
Lack of teaching, correcting and when necessary disciplining on the part of Diocese Bishops (and their Diocese Priests) is the main problem within the Church.
Most do not encourage Laity to study the Bible and the CCC.
WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT NUMBERS of supporters for anything – –
1) Jesus never changed His teaching on the Eucharist when many of His disciples left him because the teaching was difficult for them. He let them leave. – Jn 6:53-68.
2) Very few supported Jesus when He hung on the cross.
3) Jesus did say that not many will get to Heaven for eternity. Mt 7:13-14; and LK 13:23-23.
We must NEVER support, approve of, or encourage MORTAL SIN of any kind.
We do not want to pay for the mortal sins of others through our tax dollars.
Let all people pay for their own Mortal Sins:
1) Abortion; 2) Contraception: 3) Voluntary Sterilization; 4) Euthanasia;
5) Sex change operations; 6) STD’s (sexually transmitted diseases) due to one’s own actions.
Those indulging in evil behavior want everyone to pay for their sinful activities.
They do not want to take responsibility for their own actions, and they will not tolerate the freedom of others to object to being forced into remotely participating with their tax dollars.
Catholic charities and other Catholic organizations must be prepared to divorce themselves from receiving all government grants.
Government grants will always have strings attached that violate our Faith, and this is only going to get worse.
Start the process of separating from the Federal and State Governments now.
Mike, sex change operations are not mortal sins, at least they have not been declared as such. Bishops in Europe are encouraging the Church to aid for those seeking those operations.
Ahhh yes they are as they defy God’s creation as He intended them….
To attempt to change the sex God has given you is sinful, because you are saying to God, sorry – but you got it wrong. God does NOT make mistakes. No bishop who is truly in communion with the One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church would ever encourage anyone to give aid to those seeking such operations.
Self mutilation, last I checked, was a sin, YFC. Mitigated perhaps by emotional disorder, but purposely destroying the body’s procreative powers – SINFUL.
When you say “To attempt to change the sex God has given you is sinful, because you are saying to God, sorry – but you got it wrong.”, you may be correct. However, folks who wish to transition are not attempting to CHANGE their sex, they are attempting to LIVE the sex that they were gifted with.
“…attempting to live the sex they were gifted with,” accompanied by willful mutilation of functioning sex organs in favor of constructs that do not function properly does not correspond with what one is actually ‘gifted’ with, YFC.
Numbers really do matter here. The Pew numbers don’t paint a complete picture, though the source is reliable.
What they do say is that there is not a significant will on the part of Catholics to impose a traditional definition of marriage on other people who do not share the same religious/cultural beliefs. That’s what this march, and movement is about. It’s not about Christians believing in a given definition of marriage, it’s about maintaining an exclusivity, and denying it as a legal institution to others.
That would be a tough battle anyway, because NOM and the like are only stakeholders in defending a status quo, but obviously those on the other side are genuine stakeholders in that the outcome directly affects their legal rights.
The other question about whether gay marriage violates religious beliefs is perhaps too vague. There is no question about the official Church stance on the matter, but the real question would be whether the people polled believe it carries any genuine weight. Is it right, or just traditional? Is it the intent of God, or just a long line of people of influence.
Numbers do not matter if you are Catholic.
We do not vote mortal sin out of existence.
Something is right or wrong.
Those who believe otherwise can leave.
Pope Benedict told us the Church would get smaller. As long as it gets holier, the sooner the better.
Goodbye heretics. Goodbye schismatics.
Hugh, interesting numbers. Most people will approve of doing something that violates religious beliefs. So we are in the “I would never do it, but I can’t tell others they shouldn’t” phase.
I’ve sat on this for a few days and I know somebody is going to go all Saul Alinsky on me.
Why does this guy who’s supposed to be all about acceptance and tolerance try to pressure the Archbishop into cancelling his appearance at something because the other speakers aren’t good enough for him?
Watch activist homosexuals and activist liberal/progressives.
They accuse others but they are the most INTOLERANT people in our Country.
They do not want anyone else to have Freedom of Speech, or the Right to Assemble.
We don’t bother their homosexual parades.
Yet they not only want to deny us our freedoms, and they try to physically disrupt the assemblies of others.
They want OUR tax dollars to support THEIR immoral and sinful lifestyles of:
Abortion; Contraception; Euthanasia; and medical costs of their STD’s (sexually transmitted diseases) which they have contracted through their own actions.
Whatever happened to personal responsibility in this Country?
“Maddie”: You are correct. In fact, homofascists want more than our tax money and silence, they demand complicity and acceptance — a new definition of “normal” in all aspects of our lives. In this way, the homofascists have nothing more than a political party; just like the National Socialist movement in Germany. And, well, that lead to Hitler and his pals, just as the Soviets gave us the adorable Lenin, Stalin, and Mr. “Nyet” Putin, and so on. Look at them as a political force, using a very minor claim to “fair and equal” treatment to remake America. The strength of the homosexual sexualists (the sexual side of the homofascists) can be seen in what they have done to destroy the Catholic Church. Now, the Church’s liturgy is a poor imitation of its Mass of All Time, with a feminized clergy, who consistently lie to their “flock” and try everything possible to take all the money possible from them (yes, there are some exceptions). Hiding behind truly awful leaders, like Cardinal Dolan (NYC), Cardinal Wuerl, and many, many others, these bishops do almost nothing to lead towards salvation, changing liturgy, Biblical language, and Tradition to suit the modernist tastes and Liberal direction. The Office of Bishops, too, then, is a virtual political party and should be understood as such.
I realize many of the opinions voiced on this page can’t be changed with just one single comment, however, as a student of Notre Dame High School, I felt the need to add. Not only has this article misprinted the name, address, and names of faculty members to contact for information, but it has yet again attacked only the most petty details about my school and Mr. Cassin. Notre Dame empowers young women for success, aids them in gaining confidence, and changes the life of every young woman who attends. This is all done with a foundation of catholic teachings and values, thus, in my opinion, fulfilling the constraints of a relationship with the archdiocese of San Francisco. The march in D.C has nothing to do with Notre Dame, so why we were brought up again, I have no idea. I can only hope that one day everyone who identifies as a person of faith will be able to truthfully say we are all equal in Gods eyes, and that we can all find it in ourselves to be respectful of different opinions and to refrain from abject judgement.
News flash…..we are to judge a person’s ACTIONS!
I went to Notre Dame also, when the nuns were the teachers, we did not get such wrong teaching as you and others have for the last 20 years!
I am sorry for you and all the rest of the girls who have been brain washed!!!
We as Catholics are to love and respect EVERYONE. Not to condone their actions.
Peace be with you.
Haley’s Rocket = “Only the most petty details about… Cassin”
If this is the Same Cassin I saw on the TV staging a Homosex Hissy Fit outside the Arch-Diocese (Denouncing Cordileone and others who Support Catholic Marriage) while trying to Force their way inside; eventually shoving copies of their demands through a wedge between the doors – all the while whining and mugging for the Cameras…
– Then the alleged ‘foundation of Catholic Teachings & Values’ Cassin represents (and at least some naive students soak up like dry sponges) are as big a Hateful Misandrist Farce as the types of ‘Catholic educational’ institutions that promote and subsidizes Cassin’s ilk and their Anti-Catholic Propaganda.
While going ballistic (in a sophomoric manner) Against the Church and its Wise Moral teachings (without providing any foundation for the launch), Haley’s Rocket missed the target of this staged media Tantrum Theater production – to use ‘SA’ (Homosex Terrorist Storm Trooper – Like Ernst Rohm’s “happy’ lads in 1930’s germany) tactics to Spread Hate, under the pretense of ‘tolerance’.
Had a counter protest been staged at ND by Catholics Loyal to the Magisteirum – there would be outraged denunciation by Cassin supporters – who would have probably called the police – not because of the same improper behavior, but because of Improper Political Motivation.
I’m a bit confused as to how that was “going ballistic” in a “sophomoric manner”. I think you read far too much into what Hayley was saying, as she never said she disagreed with church teachings; she was just defending my school, as I go to Notre Dame as well. Apologies for any offense caused; have a lovely day
Let me begin by saying that I agree with article. However, how on earth are we supposed to gain support if we treat people who are posting their opinions, just as we are, with such abhorrence and disrespect? I regularly enjoy the articals on this site – but frankly, I am disgusted with the actions of our own in the comment sections. The young ladies who begin their comments with “as a student of notre dame” and so on, and are then responded to rather harshly, you are all aware that these are girls no older than 18, correct? You put all this effort into pinning teenagers into corners. Why? This is why true Catholics have been given such a horrible reputation. This is why traditionalists are regarded as uneducated and a waste of time. I ask you not to sully my church’s reputation and please consider whether or not your post is respectful and well-intended. I know I sound judgemental but honestly…respect is key
Practice what you preach towards those who hold convictions that honor God. They don’t honor Anonymous persons nor do you feel their respect, that’s because tolerance is now abused to mean condone. Its the new tolerance of its time and it offends God. Respect respect, that is an abused word now a days. Used to brainwash people. Times have changed though and for each year, respect can mean different to different types of persons.
The care and feeding of ‘Anonymous’ Trolls is similar to swimming in a snake pit, only not as hygienic.
Yet – this latest ‘Anonymous’ contribution does offer its own teachable moment, showing the similarity of the ‘Alinskyite Shaming Tactics’ scam so common to this Age of Abomination…
– With the timid ‘Church of Nice/Mice’ approach that has enabled so many Homosex Ephebophiles to Attack the Youth (Mostly Adolescent Boys) of the Church – while bankrupting numerous Diocese in service of ‘tolerance’.
When Ephebophile nazi founder Ernst Rohm & his ‘SA’ (Homosex Terrorist Storm Troopers) Destroyed the Boy Scouts in Germany, forcing All Boys in to the ’hitler youth’; they built the first Concentration Camp at Dachau to ‘enlighten’ anyone who Opposed this Evil.
So called “Good Germans” knew about this Homosexualist Evil, but were too timid (or flat out craven cowards) to stand up to it, although Even Then the Church Taught the objectively Disordered nature of the persuasion and the Evil of Homosex Acts.
Some Germans (often ‘Anonymous’) actually scolded the Anti-Nazis for speaking too meanly about Ernst and His ‘happy’ Troopers, and felt it wasn’t ‘Nice’ to argue with them – or the Hitler Youth Fanatics they produced.
Mr. Michael McDermott excellent comments! You are a very wise and intelligent gentleman.
Thanks AB – You know how ‘lonely’ (Just Kidding, With Christ we are Never alone) it gets when subjected to Serial Mau Mauing by a Hugh collection (I won’t say Assortment – as they pretty much read from the same Alinskyite Script) of ‘Anonymous’ Homosex Activist Trolls …
– Who ‘strangely’ enough avoid Diverse Views about the Whole of the Catholic Church and the Many challenges facing it in this Age of Abomination…
– But instead engage rather uniformly in a continuous mono-namiacle Attack (Coordinated by Troll Committee?) on said Church and the Rational, Reasonable, Fact Based, Intellectually and Morally Valid (indeed – Exemplary) Teachings / Magisterium of the True Faith…
– Whenever it interferes with pushing their own Radical Homosex Political Agenda – now focused on the Attack on Marriage & Gender, which is their only draw to this ‘Catholic’ Website – attacking the teachings of the Church that fail to conform to their hate based pogroms.
Mr. Michael McDermott they act so in that way because of sin. Its not lonely, don’t let those bastards think that you feel so. They are like vicious dogs with rabies trying to mull what they can, waiting for any sign of weakness. That is how the spiritual battles are now a days. Ill continue to keep you and others in my prayers. God bless you always!
Michael, You seem genuinely mystified that you would encounter resistance for the tone and content of your posts. It’s fascinating. How you could you expect anything else? Take a look at any of the comments you have posted on this page, and find a single sentence that doesn’t contain at least one derogatory term in it. They average 4-5 per sentence. Impressive, if your aim is to engender contempt. If not, all you’re doing is creating a dynamic wherein any point you might make gets lost in a delivery that: 1) lacks validity; 2) sounds bitter and narcissistic, and 3) derails any discussion into nastiness, usually completely off topic, like in this, your 1000th mention of the completely absurd Pink Swastika conspiracy.
If shaming and mau mauing managed to steer you in the direction of valid discourse, it would have happened years ago, no doubt. You simply need to be countered (or actively moderated), unfortunately. Because what you are posting is not Catholic, it’s just anger and hatred.
Thank you, Hugh, for being the only reasonable comment on this entire damned blog
Amen to that!
well hugh that’s because some lack the intelligence to understand the different styles and gifts people have when they express their convictions! He is creative and just because you don’t get it, well its just your ole opinion. Take a look at the Summa from St,. Thomas A, I read the whole thing, yes friends thought why didn’t you buy the simpler translation of it, I said well I don’t mind challenging my mind. Which I did, well lets just say, I had to ask a very devout and holy priest for help. Haha
I know that today, most people have cheapen their English and no longer appreciate sonnets, poem and even creativity in conveying…its because people are not accustomed to reasoning for their own in line with God.
But heck I’m sure Mr. Michael McDermott doesn’t mind some constructive critiquing, after all, all of us can do some improving. But I gather from your comments, you may be bit harsh on creative and conviction.
I don’t have a gift of conveying all the knowledge and wisdom I was blessed to have but at least I can appreciate what others do with their zeal and love of faith and truth through their comments!
Abecca – The Rational, Reasonable, Fact Based, Intellectually and Morally sound Teachings of the Catholic Church are Know to those who post here – including various Trolls in various guises.
They Just Ignore such Facts as inconvenient to their purpose – Disruption and Denigration of the Church and its Wise Moral Teachings as penned by Pope Emeritus Benedict and Approved by Saint John Paul II.
For example – we are told that some Screen Name stooging for Cassin’s Homosex Hissy Fit of Tantrum Theater, staged for the cameras Denouncing the Arch Bishop and trying to break in to the Diocese HQ, is a ‘high school girl’ – and thus gets a free pass to Promote this type Evil the likes of Cassin Practice and Push.
Well Gosh Campers – the Physically Violent Male Drag Queen being ‘honored’ as one of the grand marshals of next Sunday’s Proud Parade of Abominations, also says He is a High School Girl, and thus Exempt from Personal Responsibility for His Violent Acts.
– Otherwise HE would have just been just another example of the Violent Hetero-Pork Patriarchy, and his physical attack on High School Girls a ‘hate crime’ demanding the harshest of punishment for ‘violence against womyn’.
Its all just another Gaystapo Coin Toss by the ‘Anonymous’ Anti-Catholic Trolls here = Heads they Win, Tails you Lose; or you aren’t being Nice.
Mr. Michael McDermott very true. : )
God bless you.
“Hugh” you mix up concepts of “respect” and “tone” in a Catholic context (as to many, many priests and bishops). Homosexual sexual activities are morally corrupting and damning, again from Catholic teachings and Tradition. Do not be fooled by thinking that people who say this to you and others reject the possibility of salvation for homosexuals. Catholic “charity” requires believers to correct what the Church no longer much teaches, that you cannot engage in these things and expect God to approve. Unfortunately, the homofascist lobby will not broke even religious dissent, and is the real culprit in rejecting access to the truth, to the Faith. “Michael McDermott” points out a good number of true and valid things, as he is bound to do. Merely treating homsexual sexual behavior as “another flavor” (as many in the Church do today) is wrong, and sinful, and never justified. You can demand “respect” all you want to, but understand what it means; those that speak the truth are giving homosexuals respect, even at the point of personal attack by the many in society (and the Church) that see homosexual sexual behavior as only a matter of politics. St. John Paul II spoke of the “pilgrim Church” so all those that seek God and salvation are together, but only to the extent that the narrow path is being used.