The August 9, 16, and 23 parish bulletins of San Francisco’s notorious Most Holy Redeemer Church promoted an event in the parish’s ongoing “Adult Education” series. The bulletin entry read “August 29th – Adult Education Speaker 10am to 12 noon in Ellard Hall. Topic is “’How to Be an Instrument of Peace in an Age of Strife.’ Speaker is Ms. Peggy Green, Author and Trainer.” As is the case with most speakers at Most Holy Redeemer, the background and biography of the speaker is more informative than the putative topic being presented.
Ms. Green describes herself as, among other things, a ‘Lavender Life Coach.’ She has written a number of columns under that byline at the prosuzy.com website. Prosuzy describes itself as “for lesbians on the GO and in the KNOW.” Green has also been a contributing columnist for “Watermark Online: Your LGBT News Daily.” An October 3, 2013 Watermark column was a review of the movie Two: The Story of Roman and Nyro, to be shown on October 10, 2013 at the Tampa International Gay and Lesbian Film Festival. The movie is about two homosexual men who engage a “surrogate mother” to give birth to twin boys. Green writes “I’m thinking of two gay guys who went off in search of something greater than themselves – and met a woman. But not just any woman. Not just any fun, fully-alive, big-hearted, beautiful woman. I’m thinking of Angela. I’m thinking of the woman whose belly became a home.
‘I’m just the incubator!’ she says.
I’m thinking of the belly of a woman who carried twin sons into this world, and passed them on to the two pairs of male hands who would carry them home.” While Ms. Green may be thinking that, it is probable that most people are thinking about two little boys being deliberately placed in a household without a mother.
Green also describes herself as “an End of Life Coach serving the LGBT community.” The vagueness of that description should have set off alarm bells at One Peter Yorke Way, but Green’s appearance at an ostensible Catholic Church is rendered even more disturbing by her September 5, 2013 appearance as featured speaker at a ‘Compassion and Choices’ event at the Unitarian Universalist Church in Clearwater, Florida. From the event description: “Peggy Green received a Masters of Divinity from Pacific School of Religion. She is a former palliative care chaplain turned end-of-life coach…” But ‘Compassion and Choices” is none other than the renamed Hemlock Society. From the organization’s Wikipedia page: “Compassion & Choices is a nonprofit organization in the United States working to improve patient rights and choice at the end of life, including access to aid in dying. It was formerly known as the Hemlock Society. Its primary function is advocating for and ensuring access to end-of-life options, including assisted suicide.”
Inviting anti-Catholic speakers under cover of a seemingly harmless topic—even Advent and Lenten vespers– is an habitual tactic at Most Holy Redeemer, well-documented in the pages of CalCatholic. Earlier this year, as reported by CalCatholic on January 28, 2015, they conned the Archdiocese of San Francisco into allowing Rick Zbur, Executive Director of Equality California, to host a town hall meeting at the parish. The ostensible purpose of the meeting, and the understanding under which the Archdiocese allowed it to be held, was ‘the new EQCA Agenda to help LGBTQ immigrants and their health care issues.’ Yet a tape of the meeting shows that only 3 minutes of the hour-long meeting were devoted to that topic. The other 57 minutes were devoted to Equality California’s legislative agenda.
Similarly, on July 18, 2015, the Church hosted a talk on the important subject of Human Trafficking. But one of the speakers was Brother Daryl Charron C. PP. S. On July 5, 2015 Brother Charron responded to the Supreme Court’s decision imposing same-sex ‘marriage’ on the United States thusly: “It really is about love winning over hate and division.” Were the pastor and parochial vicar at Most Holy Redeemer unaware of this statement? Hardly. Both belong to the same province and religious order as Charron, the Kansas City Province of the Missionaries of the Precious Blood, and his statement was published on the Provincial website. None of this is accidental or will change without external action. The parishioners and staff at Most Holy Redeemer view themselves as right and the Catholic Church as wrong. Jesuit Father Donal Godfrey approvingly described their attitude in Gays and Gray, his history of Most Holy Redeemer: “A parish such as Most Holy Redeemer calls the rest of the institution to conversion.”
To encourage the responsible parties at the Archdiocese of San Francisco to exert more oversight over the parish that thinks its mission is to convert the rest of the Catholic Church, contact:
Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone
Archdiocese of San Francisco
One Peter Yorke Way
San Francisco CA 94109
The situation within Most Holy Redeemer Parish and the grave scandal it causes is to me unimaginable. MHR’s existence seems to show to the world that the blatant homosexuality is part of Catholic doctrine. The pastor seems unable to do anything but “go along to get along.” I may be wrong, but it seems to me that the only way to put an end to this mockery of everything Catholic is to completely close MHR and the parishioners be invited to attend other orthodox parishes. This cannot continue. Does anyone else have any better ideas?
mhr does a wonderful job helping and feeding the poor and homeless of san Francisco we need more cgurches like mhr religion is to be one of love and acceptance not like isis putin and right wing catholics
Sarah, yes, here’s a suggestion: stop imagining that Archbishop Cordileone needs to “close a parish” each time someone gets angry.
Our job is not to close parishes but to help them thrive.
“thomas nawn”: say, what?? Most Holy Redeemer is a constant disgrace as a church and should be given over to a Traditional order to run. People there are being lied to by its clergy, to the extent that homosexual sin is never publicly voiced as being an even of mortal sin, requiring confession and reformation of the sinner’s life.
No, “tn”, this is not the rant of any of the groups you mention (in a supercilious way, as most HomoFascists do). This is the truth of what the Church teaches, and what you and others at MHR should know and believe. Go to confession now. Amend your life while there is still time. God Bless you and all at MHR.
St. Christopher (funny you elevate yourself where you shouldn’t) MHR is a model church and others should follow! Jesus Christ himself is weeping at your judgmental, close minded bigotry toward a place and people you’ve never met. You should be begging the Lord God for forgiveness. He and only he can judge. Please take yourself off that pedestal you’ve created for yourself before it’s to late. We are praying for the salvation of your soul. Let he without sin cast the first stone.
Thank you St. Christopher for your truthful post and for caring about souls. It is right to judge the publicly corrupt actions of anyone who publicly lies while publicly enabling mortal sin.
Steve in SF is essentially casting stones at Christ for saying, “Go and sin nor more.” The father of lies is laughing with glee while his assistant Steve in SF elevates himself above Christ and then places himself on a pedestal above Christ. It was, it is, and it always WILL BE Adam and Eve….not Adam and Steve in SF.
You are so creative Catherine! Where oh where did you come up with that one?
It is odd to me, Steve in SF, that you equate calling out sin as sinful, and instructing the sinful to repent as casting stones. Christ Himself condemns sin, not the sinner. But it would seem that your slant leaves the sinner to be a slave of his sin and beyond the help of even God’s call to repent and be absolved.
Why is that?
Funny you should ask that question, YFC, when the flower of creativity was bourne naturally from the ripe soil of Steve in SF’s post. Catherine just had the wherewithal to draw attention to it’s odd claim to beauty.
Kindness has converted more sinners than zeal, eloquence, or learning.
Frederick William Faber
Of late things have not gone well for faithful Catholic in the County and City of San Francisco. The Archbishop has been a brave soul in the hostilities. Yet the presence of Most Holy Redeemer in the Castro does prevent the worse from happening. To the homosexualists MHR signals hope that the Catholic Church – given time and events – will yield, skip down the Rainbow Road down to Lavender City.. Again, MHR sitting pretty (and well funded) prevents Hell’s Gate from bursting and consuming the Church in the County and City of San Francisco.
if you do not like other folks in the church mhr catholics have the same blessings as other catholics
Another sodomite thinking being nice gets you to heaven. MHR need to be shutdown, de-consecrated, structured burned to ground, land salted and then sold.
Canisius – you are sounding like a Monty Python spoof of religion.
And looking more like those loony ISIS people who think they know orthodoxy, and thus are destroying ancient artifacts.
Most Holy Redeemer is a BEAUTIFUL building, first, and should never be torn down.
The people there (just like you and me) are in a constant need of purification and renewal, however.
Cannot tag you in anyway for I do not know you. But, you must see that MHR is very public about the character of its parish. One must disprove the point that MHR remains standing because it does provides a covering of sorts: the Catholic Church – at least in San Francisco – is not all that bad if MHR is up and running, well funded, and welcoming to the attitudes and language of Queer Theory.
Has this truly been given a “Catholic Blessing”. I have read the Book of Enoch, have you?
De-consecrate ..Burn to ground, Salt the Land and sold
thomas nawn –
Yes, all Catholics who die in the (un-repented) state of Mortal Sin will go to Hell.
Yes, it is another Mortal Sin each time someone receives Holy Communion while choosing to continue living a sinful lifestyle.
ADULTERY, FORNICATION, and HOMOSEXUAL ACTs are all MORTAL SINS.
How can anyone consider MHR a Catholic parish? Celebrating sins that cry to Heaven for vengeance!!! How they mock Our Lord!! If no one in the Church will stand up for Christ and the true teachings of His Church, then God Himself will in His 2nd Coming. Pray for those who have placed their souls in grave danger and are obstinately indulging in pleasures of the flesh.
Send this article to Archbishop S. J. Cordileone
info@sfarchdiocese.org
or
One Peter Yorke Way
San Francisco, California 94109
Phone (415) 614-5500 ; or Fax (415) 614-5555
Regarding Homosexual Acts:
SACRED SCRIPTURE: Gen 19:1-29; Rom 1:24-27; 1 Cor 6:9-10; 1 Tim 1:10;
Jude 1:7.
DOCTRINE of the FAITH: CCC # 2357, 2358, 2359, 2396.
Requirements to be able to Receive Holy Communion:
1 Cor 11:27-30
CCC: 1415, 1451, 1355.
IGNORANCE of Mortal Sin –
CCC: ” 1791 This ignorance can often be imputed to personal responsibility.
This is the case when a man takes little trouble to find out what is true and good,
or when conscience is by degrees almost blinded through the habit of committing sin.
In such cases, the person is culpable for the evil he commits.”
There is no excuse for the Literate not to read both the Bible and the CCC.
The Church is being homosexualized, it’s not a problem unique to San Francisco. The reason the revolutionaries are now taking over with so much ease is that the Pope encourages it. They have been given license from the top, as anyone can figure out who follows the popes comments and actions. For whatever reason, misguided Francis thinks he is doing good, and half the hierarchy is with him. You don’t think this isn’t the VERY REASON he was elected, do you??? His track record is quite long.
Look at Our Saviour in Manhattan, no sooner did Fr. Rutler depart than the homosexual priest (who lives openly in the rectory with his gay lover) started ripping out traditional icons. So now NYC has not one, but two openly pro-homosexual…
(cont.) parishes, a fact fully known to Cardinal Dolan (“bravo!”). How about Seattle? Everyone knows about St. Joe’s priest who actively promotes homosexuality. He’s also a Jesuit and defied Pope Benedict years ago when he was Provincial of a Province. Of course the way to corrupt any culture is undermine the purity of the young. Just days ago St. Mary’s Catholic school in Portland OR capitulated to threats (from a donor to withhold millions) and turned on a dime to quickly re-hire a lesbian they had just declined to hire as a (get this) guidance counselor! In the words of one of the protesting students, “If we don’t welcome this lady into our school it will greatly set back the LBGTQ movement.” Out of the mouths of babes!
Now that the high schools of the diocese have been corrected I pray tha the Archbishop can now turn all his efforts to taking care of this sad situation!
I personally would get a group of ‘Courage’ in there and NEVER allow any of this other garbage allowed! And if that didn’t work……CLOSE THE PARISH!!!!!
I guess Archbishop Cordileone does not want to tangle with this crowd they would eat him alive!!! He shold have closed this cess pool on day one of his installation.
“They [i.e., Most Holy Redeemer] conned the Archdiocese of San Francisco …”:
“Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.” If someone says that I have been fooled for the umpteen hundredth time, then we know who has really been fooled.
You know something is rotten in the state of Denmark when monsters like this are allowed to speak at Catholic institutions, while traditional priests and teachers are forbidden. If the fish stinks, it is because the head is spoiled.
The shock wave that would ripple around the world is the Archbishop would have the courage to shut the parish down. Headline: “Catholic Church Closes the Doors to Gay Parish in San Francisco. The Archbishop nails 99 Reasons Why o the Church’s Door. The Counter-Revolution has Begun.”
Too much of a byline, but you get my meaning.
This is not about not being nice, not caring, not about Christ not welcoming. This is about the upcoming Great Push-Back against the Hydra-headed intrusions of Queer Theory in the life and doctrine of the Church.
Never going to happen, at least not under the current administration:
https://newwaysministryblog.wordpress.com/2014/01/15/san-franciscos-archbishop-says-dialogue-with-lgbt-people-can-tenderize-us/
https://newwaysministryblog.wordpress.com/2014/12/16/building-bridges-with-archbishop-cordileone/
Wouldn’t that be terrific Steve? The only thing I might change in your headline would be ‘so-called’ gay parish. There’s no such thing as a homosexual parish…which shows the pathological nature of this disorder…that they can’t even be part of the Universal Church but must form their own exclusive little private club. It’s good they want to attend Mass but surely it is up to the bishop to correct their error?
Most Holy Redeemer is a part of the Holy Catholic Church. It is not a homosexual parish.
Dana I agree with you that there is no such thing about a homosexual parish, and MHR is not one. It’s about 1/2 gay, maybe a little more. And guess what, it’s square in the middle of the most gay neighborhood in the world. It should probably be 90% gay, but even then, it wouldn’t be a “gay parish”, or an “exclusive little private club”. It is a territorial parish of the Archdiocese of San Francisco, and it is open to all, as it should be. It is known throughout the world for being the exact opposite of an “exclusive little private club”. I haven’t had the chance to go to that parish all summer – but I hope you will soon.
Thanks for the invite, but 2500 miles one way is a bit of a commute!
PS. I include myself in this assessment…we go to Mass to worship and adore God, right? In the process we’re spiritually fed for life’s journey. can you please explain to me how having anti-Catholic ( anti-God) speakers teach subversive theories creates better servants of God? Have none of the oh-so-nice people in this parish any sense of shame? Being thought to be warm, loving people because you hold up a mirror to yourselves rather than a window of light that reveals your sins is such a cowardly way to live out your vocations. How can you ever hope to truly grow more like Jesus when you choose to see Him through a glass darkly? I address this to All of us…whatever our sin of choice may be.
Dana well said.
We should not have sins of choice.
“It cannot be doubted that by the Eucharist are remitted and pardoned lighter sins, commonly called venial. Whatever the soul has lost through the fire of passion, by falling into some slight offence, all this the Eucharist, cancelling those lesser faults, repairs, in the same way not to depart from the illustration already adduced as natural food gradually restores and repairs the daily waste caused by the force of the vital heat within us. Justly, therefore, has St. Ambrose said of this heavenly Sacrament: That daily bread is taken as a remedy for daily infirmity. But these things are to be understood of those sins for which no actual affection is retained.”
What a shame to consider closing the Church where my Parents were Married.
However – if grotesque mockery of the Catholic Church & Nuns (like the male drag queen masquerade) is all that is left, then perhaps it is time to close MHR Down and use the Resources for Catholic Good.
Most Holy Redeemer is doing just fine, in fact, better than fine, and the people of that parish don’t need some backseat drivers telling them they are a ‘cesspool’ or a ‘monster’ or any of that nonsense.
…if you do say so yourself! Why not seek God’s approval rather than be so quick to pat yourself on the back? When Isaiah was in the presence of the Lord he cried “woe is me for I’m a man of unclean lips and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips! For my eyes have seen the King, the Lord of Hosts!” Believe me, we’re all a shabby bunch of ragpickers with unclean lips, friend. Any good in us comes only from Him. Do you honestly think you’re doing better than fine?
“Lavender Life Coaches” thrived for a while in Sodom and Gomorrah. And then in one split moment, it was NO MORE. Here is the BEST teacher. If Our Lord threw the money changers out of the temple then a faithful bishop can THROW out those who still choose to sell mortal sin as being “Catholic”. Don’t close the church, close the diabolically disoriented oxygen sources being allowed to fuel the fires of hell.
The father of lies still influences many who are mercilessly held captive in slavery to homosexual acts. While prowling about the world seeking the ruin of souls, habitually blinded minions serve their cruel master by writing … “Most Holy Redeemer is doing just fine, in fact, better than fine”
I first sign of a heart attack is denial, “…doing just fine…better than fine…”
Those steeped in sin become blind to it; fall in love with it. It becomes part of them. Very sad situation.
…As opposed to people like you and me Alice who rarely sin, immediately confess it and needent worry about it any more. We thank God WE aren’t like THOSE sinners. No sireee bob!
C&H, I thought you said Alice passed away, and if you are stilling encouraging so-called same-sex “marriages” than you have not repented of it but are encouraging it. One cannot have it both ways.
Anne T…I was addressing Alice regarding her post of 8/31 at 4:56 PM. I believe you have confused her with my late girlfriend Helen. I do believe that same sex civil marriages or civil unions are a rational way to deal with the very secular issues of taxation, inheritance and the like. I would never suggest that our Church should perform or even bless them unless the Holy Spirit leads the Magisterium to make such a drastic change….which is totally unlikely and surely won’t happen in my lifetime of yours
That smug little remark might play if we hadn’t all been inundated by your profusion of self-righteous indignation about being a lesbian and that you’re not sinning but only acting out what God created in you. Have I got that about right? It’s not a sin…eight years of Muhammad Husseins reign of error overrides Biblical truth and thousands of years of Natural Law.
Dana his name is Barack Hussein Obama, and he is the President of the United States. And he is a Christian. Please try to show a modicum of respect.
I believe C & H has said she is celibate. I’m sure your misstatement of her life is simply an honest error on your part.
She is a lesbian but she is not sinning. It is not a sin to be homosexual. It is a sin for anyone, (gay or not) to commit homosexual sex acts.
Dana …acting out? You know this how? As I’ve said before, if anyone wants to put a camera in my bedroom feel free as long as I have time to replace my ratty nightgown.
Thank you Canisius. May God richly bless you. yfc, I do respect the office of the president of the U.S. but no one can make me respect a man who has so undermined our religious freedom, traditions, values, famiies, peace and harmony that the very fabric of our nation is unravelling. How can you, as a self-proclaimed Catholic, feel anything but the need to don sackcloth and ashes for even voting for him, let alone defending him constantly here? How can you? Take a minute to reflect on just what it is you’re defending. C&H, I had a good chuckle picturing you in your ratty nightgown. Thank you for having a sense of humor. It’s just you do defend ssa alot here, so it was inevitable that you mean do as I do, not what I say? :)
Dana … Just a minor technical point …… One can’t really defend SSA because it just is. It’s a state of being and the Church is clear that the state, condition or whatever you want to call it is not sinful. It just exists in a small minority of God’s children in every generation for reasons known only to Him.
Thanks, C&H…hugs all round. (Until our next rumble on the playground haha)
C&H,
I just learned in this thread that you’re celibate. From a prior discussion with you, I had the opposite impression. I, myself, am heterosexual but was completely celibate [except for only a few fleeting incidents] until I got married late in life only a few years ago. I know from personal experience that it can be tough but that it’s also quite doable. I also know that, sometimes, it seems like you’re the only one out there doing the right thing. You have my profound respect.
YFC Pharoh Obama is a vile, petulant little leftist who deserves no respect and will never get any from me….
Not a hugger……keeping people at a distance is the better path
I attended Peggy Green’s excellent talk this past Saturday. The theme was how evangelical Christians and LGBT people can / should dialogue about their differences. There was nothing anti-Catholic in her presentation. The editors of CalCatholic would have learned a lot if they attended. But sadly they chose, as usual, to push their ultra-conservative agenda in this article. MHR is by every measure a well run and respected parish in the Archdiocese of SF. It’s good works and ministries are known nationally and internationally. I anticipate that MHR will continue to promote a progressive Catholic agenda as it should.
I think this is good because I remember when evangelical Christians were physically attacked in the Castro after the Prop 8 vote.
Evangelical Christians vary considerably in their views. I hope they were not stereotyped. Some are fine with gay marriage and relationships.
It is most important to evangelicals that one is saved and some believe that after one is saved no sin will prevent you from getting into heaven. Others would believe that being in a gay relationship would prove that you were not really saved. Most evangelicals just want you to accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior.
The word is orthodox, not ultra conservative. As Alice succinctly said in another post you’re either Catholic or you’re not (I’m paraphrasing)
Another word for progressive Catholic is protestant and a bad Catholic better hope to become a good one before he’s a dead one .its basically simple. God’s given us maps, guides, food and all kinds of help to reach Heaven…satan provides the distractions, roadblocks and false trails. Terms like progressive, modern and ecumenical are fake road signs that lead to nowhere nice
“…Another word for progressive Catholic is protestant and a bad Catholic better hope to become a good one before he’s a dead one.”
We need more straight talk like this, Dana. Thank you!
Heh, that’s me. Shoot from the hip. I’ve grown very fond of all here no matter what our views. As I’ve said before, one thing we all share is a love for God and the Church. It’s odd how when I converted I stopped being an artist, a conservative, a gardener or all the labels we are defined by. How does it happen that everything we say, think or do is seen through our Catholic lens? I didn’t expect it but once it happened everything started making sense. That’s why I’m often taken aback when some of the sensible people here can hold opposing thoughts. I’m not judging! heh.
….it is interesting how everything becomes secondary after conversion. But that too is how it should be. Our other identities are like the brothers, sisters, mothers, and fathers that we are not to love above Christ. As to opposing thoughts, that’s just human nature. That is why I try, try mind, not to be overly strenuous in ‘judgement’ as one only needs to look back at St. Vincent Ferrar and the anti-pope.
Sorry, another word for progressive catholic is not protestant, it is “progressive catholic”/
There is no “dialogue” with unrepentant sinners in a more enlightened time the LGBTQ whatever … would be burned at the stake and their writings indexed
CCD always looks bad and its posters always look bad because people are not at their best when they are judging and criticizing, especially when they are judging and criticizing something that they know little about and is none of their business in the first place.
It is very possible that these gay people love Jesus more than those who criticize MHR.
I understnd that the concern is that at MHR homosexual acts might be considered neutral or even good, and this would be a grave error. However, if you do not attend the parish you do not know that this is going on.
Luke 7:36 One of the Pharisees asked him to eat with him, and he went into the Pharisee’s house, and took his place at table.
37 And behold, a woman of the city, who was a sinner, when she learned that he was at table in the Pharisee’s house, brought an alabaster flask of ointment,
38 and standing behind him at his feet, weeping, she began to wet his feet with her tears, and wiped them with the hair of her head, and kissed his feet, and anointed them with the ointment.
39 Now when the Pharisee who had invited him saw it, he said to himself, “If this man were a prophet, he would have known who and what sort of woman this is who is touching him, for she is a sinner.”
40 And Jesus answering said to him, “Simon, I have something to…
40 And Jesus answering said to him, “Simon, I have something to say to you.” And he answered, “What is it, Teacher?”
41 “A certain creditor had two debtors; one owed five hundred denarii, and the other fifty.
42 When they could not pay, he forgave them both. Now which of them will love him more?”
43 Simon answered, “The one, I suppose, to whom he forgave more.” And he said to him, “You have judged rightly.”
44 Then turning toward the woman he said to Simon, “Do you see this woman? I entered your house, you gave me no water for my feet, but she has wet my feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair.
45 You gave me no kiss, but from the time I came in she has not ceased to kiss my feet.
46 You did not anoint my head with oil, but she has anointed my feet with ointment.
47 Therefore I tell you, her sins, which are many, are forgiven, for she loved much; but he who is forgiven little, loves little.”
48 And he said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.”
49 Then those who were at table with him began to say among themselves, “Who is this, who even forgives sins?”
50 And he said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.”
The problem Anon is that gays spread their lies and try to undermine the Faith. They have inserted themselves into the priesthood and have caused untold damage. MHR represent these lies and evil, they presume Christ’s mercy even though I am willing to be more than half of the parishioners are active homosexuals but honestly believe they are “good” Catholics . This is what I detest, am I being “judgmental” proudly so.. are they being hypocrites ?? without a doubt