Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 12:08 AM By Dan
The landscape will be uncrecognizable in a very short time.
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 3:27 AM By Thomas Edward Miles
Great News! We (Society) should remove the TAX breaks we grant the church; can’t have your cake and eat it too!! Happy Pride!
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 3:54 AM By Ray Marshall
If homosexual marriages are legal in New York, and these two women are adults, how do they get to keep their names hidden from the public in their attempt to get money out of the Church?
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 4:16 AM By 4unborn
If St. Joseph loses the lawsuit, they must refuse to pay any fine! Better to lose a lawsuit than to lose one’s soul!!
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 4:39 AM By SAM
I guess that according to OBAMA LAW (Obama refuses to enforce the existing DOMA – Defense of Marriage Act), the Catholic Church will need to fire all non-Catholics who are employed by them.
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 5:14 AM By Canisius
So it begins, the assault on the Faith, liberals choose your side, Christ and His Church or the gods of this world
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 6:14 AM By Jo Ann
Where can I puke?
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 6:18 AM By Joanie
The gay community should just leave us alone and we will do the same. They are just pushing their agenda. Haven’t they enough other areas to conquer?
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 6:19 AM By peter
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 6:33 AM By Maryanne Leonard
Did you ever think you’d live to see the day when this sort of thing would reduce Church coffers? I expect they will have some ‘splaining to do on Judgment Day.
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 7:15 AM By MacDonald
“Roe…is the fully ripe internal egg masses in the ovaries, or the released external egg masses of fish and certain marine animals, such as shrimp, scallop and sea urchins. As a seafood, roe is used both as a cooked ingredient in many dishes and as a raw ingredient. The roe of marine animals, such as the roe of lumpsucker, hake and salmon, is an excellent source of omega-3 fatty acids.” In other words, this couple’s lawsuit against the Catholic Church sounds mighty fishy to me…what will they sue about next? The ordination of women? The use of “wine” when offering the Precious Blood to children at Holy Mine? Calling God “Father” in the Lord’s Prayer? The fact that men cannot become nuns?
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 8:23 AM By MD
This is not surprising and not a coincidence. There is great reason Mr. Obama announced his loyalty to the gay agenda a few weeks ago and I heard a priest on EWTN sharing his views that this is another attempt by our nation to promote a Marxist ideology. This is the effort to make a completely secularized society with no religion, to propagate the “spiritual but not religious” slogan we hear from many people today. It is clear to me that our government is trying to make a society that is tolerant to anything but truth, to anything but God and His Natural Law. We in America have fallen asleep at the wheel and it is now our time to wake up and steer towards the New Evangelization. We are at war, but we have an army filled with saints and angels on our side and the Almighty Himself to guide us along the way. God Love You.
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 8:35 AM By John Madison
Here we go! This will spread like wildfire. Catholics will be marginalized and silenced.
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 8:45 AM By Dixibehr
Does St. Joseph Medical Center in Yonkers deny marital benefits to heterosexually remarried divorcees? If not, why not? After all, the Catholic Church generally does not recognize such marriages as valid.
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 8:58 AM By MD
Dixibehr-There is a major distinction between a heterosexual couple and homosexual couple. With a heterosexual couple, there is the possibility of validity, but with a homosexual couple, there is no possibility of validity for it contradicts natural law and the meaning of human sexuality. Homosexual relations is an abomination of the flesh and unnatural and the Church cannot sanction such behavior by recognizing it as a legitimate union just as no Church institution could recognize a polygamous partnership as a valid union of persons. God Love You.
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 9:55 AM By Canisius
The Gay Mafia corrupt and filth ridden ,,, hope they all burn in Hell,
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 10:03 AM By Ron
Christian’s rights and gay “rights” cannot coexist. The battle lines are drawn, who are you going to fight for, God or satan?
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 10:08 AM By MacDonald
Dixibehr, you make an interesting point! If the Church were to be consistent in applying our moral theology, we would need to be JUST as strict with heterosexual couples who violate Church law. Even heterosexual couples can engage in conduct which is against the Natural Law: masturbation, birth control, etc.; these, too, are not open to life.
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 10:14 AM By peter
MD – You forgot the word “allegedly” in your last post . . .
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 10:25 AM By JLS
SAM, does firing “all the non-Catholics employed by them” include some of the bishops and priests also?
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 10:45 AM By John Hinshaw
Here it comes. The hatred of the Catholic church, so evident in the viciousness of the homosexual lobby, was never going to respect “conscience clauses”. Despite the re-assurances of the Catholic Left and corrupt New York Republicans, “gay marriage” was always a dagger pointed at the heart of Jesus Christ.
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 11:27 AM By Philippe
The reason the gay “community”, or any other evil of any kind cannot “leave us alone” is explained by the great Catholic historian, William Thomas Walsh in his biography “Philip II” concerning the education of Anne Boleyn in writng: “the instant appeal that Luther’s teaching made to persons already anxious to escape from the reproach of a divine standard with which the Catholic Church persisted (past tense accidental or prophetic?) in confronting human guilt”. So even after all the 500 years of Protestant watering down of Christ’s message, the French Revolution, Vatican II and its decision to embrace the world as priority 1, cover up of sexual abuses, abandonment of vows, the Message is still recognized and feared hence the vehemence and persistence of attacks from within and without on any element of genuine Catholic Tradition.
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 12:13 PM By Dixibehr
\\Homosexual relations is an abomination of the flesh and unnatural\\ If they are unnatural, why do they happen, even in non-human species? \\ just as no Church institution could recognize a polygamous partnership as a valid union of persons. \\ Does this include the polygamous marriages of David, Solomon, and Abraham, who are recognized as saints in Eastern Catholic Churches and are commemorated in the Roman Martyrology?
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 12:37 PM By Abeca Christian
Those who are applauding this lawsuit, well you are the reason why we must stop gay marriage, you have no respect for religious freedom, therefore we must put a stop to your demise.
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 1:02 PM By MD
Dixibehr-First, man (human beings) are not like other animals because we have rational intellect and have the ability to understand reason unlike other animals of which you refer. Second, you are referring to polygamy that did deny meaning of marriage and occurred prior to the fullness of revelation because of the hardness of heart due to the sin of man. The real fact of the matter here is that so-called same sex marriage is not marriage. The fact that something occurs does not make it natural, but rather it is a violation of nature. As a religious institution, the Catholic Church has the right to express Church Doctrine and if a person wants to be employed by the Church, their immorality cannot be forced on the Church. This is the denying of religious liberty in a religious institution. The Church is not imposing any beliefs on this woman who freely works for this hospital…it is this woman who is trying to impose her beliefs on the Church. God Love You.
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 1:28 PM By Rosie
Dixibehr, who lied to you about homosexuality being in non-human species? The same ones who lie about the history of the earth and of mankind? Did they explain to you why if it is “natural” that they must push it on the entire world who NATURALLY REJECTS IT because it goes against their personal natures? I’ll tell you what. You go find yourself a queer cow or bird or chipmunk and you get back to us okay? You can whine and cry and paint whatever kind of losing argument you want in a forum instead of a roomful of people who can easily put you away. You still lose. Homosexuality is an annatural sexual perversion. ALL…do you hear me? ALL…every single mass murderer was a sexually perverted psychopath. You know their names. Now go do some homework before you speak. Pick one of their names and look it up yourself. Normal people don’t go to emergency rooms to have foreign objects removed from their rectal cavities. Not all sexually confused people are child molesters but ALL child molesters are sexually confused. GET IT YET?! Of course you do. Now stop your nonsense and go pray for grace.
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 2:15 PM By Kenneth M. Fisher
TEM, You are one confused case. On the one hand you praise priest who I know do not agree with you on sodomy, and you praise some other things that are right, but when it comes to the CHURCHES teachings on your sodomistic lifestyle, you chose sodomy. You cannot serve two Masters. May God have mercy on your poor compromised soul, Kenneth M. Fisher
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 2:23 PM By Vicki
The “Homosexual Lobby” is controlled by elites who are hell bent (unh-huh) on reducing the population. These followers of Sanger and her ilk make sure this appears to be about rights and equality, They want to make the rest of us look and feel bad for our so-called hate and intolerance so we will give in. FEH! The push for gay marriage is the push for zero babies.
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 3:02 PM By Dennis
Finally, a line in the sand.
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 3:52 PM By MrsZ
That’s correct. The Church should be consistant in preaching against the mortal sins you mentioned in the context of God ordained marriages. The Church is under attack in every area and the faithful are being threatened and attacked at every turn. The Catholic Church is The Church Militant. Those who recognize the devil “prowling about the earth, seeking the ruin of souls” in these protests and perversions of the Natural Law, will fight for our Faith and for the souls of our children and grandchildren.
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 4:37 PM By mg
Homosexuals do not pro create. All species will die out that are homosexual. The talk is about basic life force.
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 5:55 PM By Brian in Canada
Thomas Edward Miles God created the Universe, including the World and all the planets and stars, and the air, land and water. Then he created the animals fishes and birds. Then the Lord God in Heaven, created man. Seeing that man was alone and lonesome, the Lord God in Heaven, created woman AS A COMPANION TO MAN! Over time, the world became so corrupt and sinful, that the Lord God in Heaven, sent His ONLY Son to earth to save ALL HUMANITY that would follow His Teachings and Example. God Created Adam and Eve. God DID NOT CREATE Jane and Jane or John and John to PROPOGATE THE WORLD. We should all pray for you and your ilk that you all receive a miracle cure? May God Bless and Guide You to the True Light! As Americas moto states: “IN GOD WE TRUST”
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 6:15 PM By Ann Cinquina
Another Maxist ploy to bankrupt the Catholic Church.
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 7:19 PM By JLS
Dixibehr, why do you homosexuals always try to shuff off the blame for your perversion on the natural order? You’ll put the blame on whatever you fixate in your imagination. One book I read back in my early college days had some dude running around raping vending machines … you pervs are beyond out of control and need to be stopped.
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 8:09 PM By max
here in san francisco when the government forced archbishop levada to extend “benefits” to “domestic partners,” he did something pretty smart, it seems to me—he said that the catholc church wanted to help peoople with health insurance and such so much that you could designate ANYONE to be your beneficiary: your mother, your dad, you brother, etc. it reminded me, att the time, of JESUS having to be clever with the roman coin and the question of taxes. archbishop levada became over-0generous and allowed catholic charities and such groups to broaden the scvope of coverage to people who would otherwise be left out, such as one’s elderly parents. he got a lot ogf criticism for “caving in,” but the law was the law, and a lot of good people got health care as a result of his tricky m,ove.
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 8:33 PM By cjo
If we all don’t Stand up for Religious Liberty….it will all be gone before we know it. We must take an “active stand” on this issue-NOW. Let your Senators and Congressmen/women and President know where you STAND ! Congress is 202 225 3121 White House Comment Line is 202 456 1111
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 10:22 PM By Jeff
The hammer will soon fall on all Protestant Churches as well.
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 10:23 PM By simone_dubois
Satan has always hated the Church. And he hates us too.
Posted Monday, June 25, 2012 10:43 PM By Bakersfield Crusader
Oh, wow, the Gay Mafia had to go there. Well, then, they are going to find out the hard way that Jesus wasn’t kidding when he said that the gates of hell will not prevail against his beloved bride, the Catholic Church.
Posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:28 AM By JonJ
Given the great respect everyone here has for religious freedom, then I suppose if a new church came along that held as a tenant of faith that the catholic religion is a corruption from satan, and that consequently no catholic can give valid marriage vows. Consequently, said church refuses to grant health benefits to any employee married to a catholic, since, as a matter of faith, they see such marriages as inherently void. Would this board support the right of this church to express its deeply held faith and deny benefits to catholic spouses?
Posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:42 AM By JonJ
Rosie, homosexuality does indeed exist in some animal species–as any cursory net search will show. I have seen it in lab animals myself and it is well reported to occur in the field. Of course, when people of faith say that homosexuality is against the natural law, the do not mean that homosexuality does not occur in nature. Catholic theology holds that one of the ways that God communicates with man through the “nature of things”. Thus, “natural law” is determining moral rightness in light of the nature of things—and does not mean that everything that happens in the natural world with animals is presumptively moral.
Posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:17 AM By peter
mg – Heterosexuals give birth to homosexuals. There always has been and will ALWAYS be homosexuals. Homosexuals are not another species. Humans are all homo-sapiens (funny that).
Posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 7:59 AM By MD
MacDonald & Mrs. Z-The Church is very consistent in her teachings on human sexuality. It is a mortal sin to fornicate outside of marriage, to masturbate, to use contraception, etc. Please refer to the Catechism of the Catholic Church 2nd Edition Article 6 starting in 2331-2400. The one thing missing from Dixbehr’s argument is the possibility of the homosexual act being justified in marriage because marriage cannot exist between people of the same sex whereas if a male and female have relations, they are engaging in the marital act. No one should engage in the marital act outside of marriage, but a heterosexual couple can get married, but a homosexual couple cannot. There are 2 necessary components of marriage that both have to be present, the unitive act and procreative act of sexuality. This article is not about the Church discriminating against gay people, but our secular society trying to make the Church compromise the teachings of the Lord to satisfy the desires of a disordered and sinful behavior. Please refer to the CCC and you will see that the Church is extremely consistent in her teachings. God Love You.