The following comes from a Dec. 7 story on ICN, Independent Catholic News.
Hollywood star Joe Mantegna has announced plans to make a film on the life of St Padre Pio of Pietrelcina. The actor, best known for his roles in The Three Amigos and The Godfather Part III is working in collaboration with the St Pio Foundation. Mantegna and his production partner Danny Ramm will make the film through their company Acquaviva Productions and it will be filmed on locations in Italy, in Pietrelcina and San Giovanni Rotondo in the Puglia region. Schedule permitting, Joe Mantegna will star in the title role.
An Italian-American, raised a Catholic, Mantegna was born in Chicago, Illinois, in 1947 to immigrant parents, Mary Anne (Novelli), from Acquaviva delle Fonti, and Joseph Anthony Mantegna, Sr, from Calascibetta, Sicily.
In a video appeal for funding, Mantegna described Padre Pio as “one of the most extraordinary men of the 20th century” and said his life was “truly the stuff of legend.”.. “Painstaking efforts will be made to recreate the time period, including the costumes, hairstyles and furniture, right down to the sandals on Padre Pio’s feet,” he said.
Shot in English, filmed on location in Italy, and distributed worldwide, the film will highlight Padre Pio’s impact on the Catholic Church and the building of his hospital, Casa Sollievo della Sofferenza in San Giovanni Rotondo, Puglia, Italy.
A percentage of the proceeds from the film will go to the Saint Pio Foundation and help further its work to establish charity medical facilities in the USA.
See an interview with Joe Mantegna about the Padre Pio project here.
Read more about the St Pio Foundation here.
To read the original news story, click here.
That should be interesting. Looking forward to seeing how well it will be conveyed. There is already an excellent movie on St. Padre Pio in Italian. St. Padre Pio pray for us.
“Everybody can, and should, propagate the glory of God, and work for the salvation of men, by leading a Christian life, by praying constantly to the Lord: ‘ Your kingdom come, and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.’ This is what we should do, offering yourself completely and continually to the Lord for this purpose.”
By Saint Padre Pio
Did you see the Italian version of Padre Pio’s story, Abeca? It had a scene of a scary black dog coming after him when he was a boy and it would show up once in a while throughout the film and apparently it was supposed to be Christ? The whole film was edgy and very well done . It sure isn’t easy being a saint! Sometimes when I would be flying out to Seattle I would wonder what it would be like to look out and see him looking back at me through the little window .
Yes Dana i saw that part. I agree with you. Im so grateful for Jesus and His saints.
“Prayer is the best weapon we have; it is the key to God’s heart. You must speak to Jesus not only with your lips, but with your heart. In fact on certain occasions you should only speak to Him with your heart.”
― Padre Pio, Padre Pio
“The habit of asking ‘Why’ has ruined the world.” ― Padre Pio, Padre Pio
The best response to those who must ask why is, “Why not”?
Or, another fave…
“Why? Because I said so!”
“Ask me agin, I sez the same”. Lou Cstello
When a person speaks badly of a friend, he destroys the reputation and the honour of a brother who has the right to enjoy respect.
One day Padre Pio said to a penitent: “When you gossip about a person it means that you have removed the person from your heart. But be aware, when you remove a man from your heart, Jesus also goes away from your heart with that man.”
Once, Padre Pio was invited to bless a house. But when he reached the entrance of the kitchen he said: “There are snakes here. I do not want to go in”. And then he said to a priest that often went to that house to eat: “Don’t go to that house because they say unpleasant things about their brothers and sisters.”
“When a person speaks badly of a friend, he destroys the reputation and the honour of a brother who has the right to enjoy respect.”
Taken from CCD’S ‘PROMOTER OF HOMOSEXUALITY COMES TO CORONADO’
Abeca Christian says:
August 19, 2014 at 8:14 pm
1. Fr Timothy Radcliffe OP frequently celebrated Mass for the gay dissent group the Soho Masses Pastoral Council. During the reign of Pope Benedict XVI Fr Timothy Radcliffe was stopped from speaking at the General Assembly of the Catholic development agencies. Fr Radcliffe is well known for his liberal positions on morality, including his public opposition to the Church’s teaching on homosexuality.
2. A selection of Fr Radcliffe’s writings expressing dissent from the Church’s teaching:Fr Radcliffe gave the following contribution to the Church of England ‘s review of homosexuality and gay marriage:
Fr Radcliffe OP expands the meaning of fertility to include gay sex
More to follow but this is enough evidence! Lets begin the process to tell this priest that his false theology is not welcomed!
Be warned of false preachers and also be warned of false anonymous posters pretending to know their Catholic faith!
More evidence of very odd flip flopping and bipolar-like posts.
lovely Catherine since you have taken out your whip, allow me to get on my knee’s and take my shirt of for you so you can have a better aim.
Catherine is also showing bad will and not good Christian charity, even as using the words bipolar, she is mocking and calling another Catholic bipolar. She is disrespectful to the people who truly have that disorder. Bipolar is not something to joke about and to mock and shun on another lay faithful. She is of bad will and envy is very apparent.
I think that anyone who is a good Catholic of good will, why would anyone support these ladies. They are a scandal in our church. Its a pity but again Catherine is good at throwing cheap shots. The more I have been praying the rosary for these ladies, the more they resist the graces that come with such precious pearls.
Her lies that are made up in her mind, interesting how her and Ann Malley used that word Bipolar. Since its all in their minds. Now the power of suggestion. They want to cut and paste my words and now are bearing false witness by stating that I flip flop and use the word bipolar, that is how nasty these undisciplined ladies are. . I can play their game and cut and paste from her posts and use that power of suggestion but I WONT. Its not in me to be that nasty. God help them more. when she used to be “the truth hurts”, when she went after Maryanne leaonard, when she got angry at Mr Fisher and Ann T for pointing out a flaw in her etc etc….but no. Not going to go there because these ladies are not interested in saving souls but about being right and going after anyone and everyone who rightfully admonish them.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Lets address Catherine false accusations. YFC you can reason with like minded views. Since that is what she tried cutting and pasting and neglecting all the complete message done in charity. from another thread and inserting her own self man made interpretation.
YFC has quoted here that both Masses are valid, the OF and the EF when done in accordance to GIRM. So there you go, this homosexual sinner, just the rest of us who are sinners too, agree with the CCC that both forms of Mass are valid. He may come off a little prejeduces against the Latin Mass, only because of Catherine etc…that is his problem. ….This is where we are like minded. The men in courage, group who struggle with homosexuality, also agree and are seeking to get help. YFC may continue to ignore our guidance and admonishment but he is also able to reason. With this bad example that Catherine and Ann T set, how is YFC ever going to have a heart of conversion. He will have to seek it somewhere else with true Catholic charity. Not on this website with Catholics who remain silent at any type of bad behavior. He can turn away from sin and because I have been praying for him for months and months as I now find myself praying for these two lovely ladies who look for every opportunity to nit pick at my every post. Its a disgrace that Catholics would stand for this.
“…Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”
That is why I give you over to the other side, Abeca, for you choose it willingly and blindly and eagerly. Reasoning with you is nothing short of insanity. But I did try.
correction to my post Abeca Christian says:
December 10, 2014 at 1:58 pm ….I meant Ann Malley not Ann T. Sorry Ann T..
“It’s not in me to be nasty?” Good grief, Abeca, the humor of it all is too much to bear.
“YFC has quoted here that both Masses are valid, the OF and the EF when done in accordance to GIRM.” = Yes and the wolves in sheep’s clothing at the recent Family Synod would say the same.
“It’s a disgrace that Catholics would stand for this” = Your lack of charity to Ann Malley is a disgrace. It showed that you do not truly care about the salvation of all souls as much as you think you do.
Ann Malley has NEVER once posted that the OF is not valid. That is a lie Abeca. Your great lack of charity to Ann Malley defined the fact that you are not consistent or sincere. Everything that you just wrote about YFC could be turned around and applied to YOU when SSPX visitors silently read this website. Ann Malley even gave you a heads up about using a different approach so your Albert Einstein quote below speaks volumes about your own lack of saneness. You started the attacks and have kept them up so your post about kneeling down for me to take aim does not make you sound “humble”. It make you sound erratic, unpredictable, inconsistent, changeable, variable, inconstant, irregular, fitful, unstable, turbulent, unsettled, changing, varying, fluctuating, mutable.
You are even becoming angry at all of the other posters for not speaking up. So in your mad as a wet hen haste you incorrectly used Ann T’s name and called her a bad example. Was that by subliminal design or another blunder?
Ann Malley has clearly said that she is “obedient [to Rome] in all things but sin”. She is trying to be too cute by half when the sin she would be avoiding would be attendance at a NO mass. So please, Catherine, don’t fall for her verbal gamesmanship.
No cuteness about it, YFC. The Novus Ordo Missae is an occasion of sin for me. I have said as much quite openly so your attributing your favored tactic of ‘cuteness’ or perceived ‘cuteness’ to another is nothing but projection.
That said, I do believe the NO to be a valid mass. But then many masses are valid, but scandalous. And I will not submit me or mine to known scandal. Much as you and many of the clergy would like me to do so. That ship of trust has sailed – much thanks to the very clergy that you seem now inclined to believe over actual Church teaching on Faith and morals.
Be honest, be consistent, or begone, YFC. You’ve succeeded in duping poor Abeca into thinking she is somehow now your champion, this when she bit my head off in my first defense of you (Remember, I said you should not be castigated for your homosexual sins any more than others should be chastened for the promotion of birth control, abortion, or sex acts closed to life within the confines of marriage). Abeca rounded on me then because “I didn’t know what *she* was doing in her attempt to correct you.
Now she is being held to the fire regarding the consistency of her position. It’s no more than any of us on CCD go through and yet there is this dither of victimhood and jealous over manufactured self-absorbed nonsense.
YFC writes, “So please, Catherine, don’t fall for her verbal gamesmanship.” = The gamesmanship of homosexual cyberbullying is being exposed
Here is an example of the strategic verbal gamesmanship that has been taking place with certain posters on CCD. One minute they sound extremely faithful and then all of the sudden they are either coddling or enabling or trying to interject verbal gamesmanship comments that support the (your) homosexual agenda. Father Bob B also addressed Maryanne Leonard’s inconsistency.
Taken from CCD’s article ‘Los Angeles Jesuit Father Greg Boyle ridicules Church teaching’
Maryanne Leonard says:
June 7, 2013 at 1:25 am
“My husband and I actually know Father Greg Boyle, and his life story will make a great movie someday, along the lines of the Boys Town movie but of course more focused on today’s “troubled children” of poverty and the inner city. He may be a priest who disagrees with the teaching of the Church, but he certainly is a good man, and that’s an understatement. We can disagree with what he says on certain issues and hold “Catholic” organizations to higher standards in providing “keynote speaker” opportunities to Catholics whose public utterances are at odds with Catholic teachings, but to denounce a good man personally who is a saint compared to most of us is to prove that this priest, and his life’s work, is almost certainly unknown to the person judging him.
continued Dec. 11, 2014 at 4:31pm
Fr. Bob B says:
June 7, 2013 at 1:12 pm
“He is admittedly out of step with Church teachings, I will grant you, but his years of incredible service far outweigh any missteps he takes in his public pronouncements as a priest.”
Gee, Maryanne, I hate to write this—your blogs are almost always most reasonable—but are you serious? He is a member of the Society of Jesus (and they’re great), and as such took a vow to be especially obedient to the Pope—one of whom (JP II) precluded the ordination of women to the priesthood in words that sound awfully like infallible teaching, and others (B16 and F1) who have spoken out most forcefully against the redefinition of marriage. Certainly I don’t want to demonize a man who has done so much good. But we can’t “canonize” him either, as you seem to do. There’s no getting around the fact that he’s a priest as well as a man, and we Catholics believe you can’t separate the two: it’s not like taking off a coat. I’m afraid that if we scratch the surface a little deeper, we’d find a certain unwarranted pride—unwelcome in a Jesuit—in priests who think they know Christ’s will better than the Church He founded and who thereby confuse the faithful rather than evangelizing them.”
Ann Malley, Can Holy Mass be a near occasion of sin?
Or are you like a woman who blames her infidelity on her husband?
I do not see how something holy can cause a sin.
James 1:2-4, 12-14 Count it all joy, my brethren, when you meet various trials, for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness. And let steadfastness have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing…
Blessed is the man who endures trial, for when he has stood the test he will receive the crown of life which God has promised to those who love him. Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am tempted by God”; for God cannot be tempted with evil and he himself tempts no one; but each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire.
Mous, I know you do not see it. That much is clear. And it is not God who tempts, but often that which surrounds Him under the auspices of ‘holy’ is not holy at all.
That said, I do count it all as joy when tested, mous. You just don’t understand the test.
Whatever point you all think you was worth making regarding Abeca’s consistency, even if we were to grant you that you had a point in the first place, you have now made, what a dozen or more times. If you were persuasive in your point, you would not have needed to repeat the exact same point, using the same exact same quotes from Abeca a dozen times, now would you? If you have a problem with Abeca’s supposed consistency, with mine, or now I see you are dragging Maryanne Leonard’s 2013 comments into this discussion when she is not even on this page at all: Make your point, then step away from the stage. You are not now engaging in making a point, you are actually bullying her. This is the kind of behavior teenagers do on Facebook. Grow up people.
Speaking of “strategic verbal gamesmanship” and calling out flip floppers and inconsistent commentators, did you actually read, Catherine, the quote you provided by Fr. Bob to harangue Maryanne Leonard (who is not even here) and Abeca and I? Here is the quote you provided…”I’m afraid that if we scratch the surface a little deeper, we’d find a certain unwarranted pride—unwelcome in a Jesuit—in priests who think they know Christ’s will better than the Church He founded and who thereby confuse the faithful rather than evangelizing them.”
Do you not think that those who espouse doctrines opposed to the Church’s ecumenical councils, as well as the direct orders of the Popes in matters of liturgy and ordinations, are not the very same who display unwarranted pride, in the case among the faithful and some bishops and clergy, who think they know Christ’s will better than the Church He founded, and who thereby confuse the faithful rather than evangelizing them.”? Curious, Catherine, have you discussed this quote with Ann Malley, the other SSPXers out there, as well as the sedevacantists among the CCD commentators?
“…The more I have been praying the rosary for these ladies, the more they resist the graces that come with such precious pearls.”
If you are indeed praying the Rosary so diligently for us, Abeca, you must understand that you are receiving the graces and so, too, are we. The grace obtained is perhaps to continue being consistent in pointing out your inconsistency here.
I have never once said the Novus Ordo was invalid. That, too, is in your mind for whatever reason. If you are praying so hard, understand that you may need to begin to ask Our Lady what it is that you are not asking for that YOU should be. Thank you for your prayers, just the same as no prayer is wasted. But often Our Lady applies them in ways that we actually need. You may want to consider than when feeling your efforts are not answered.
To Abeca Christian. Can I offer a suggestion? Stop taking Anne Malley, and Catherine, and Janek and Linda! Marie! seriously. You know by now that only they know the TRUTH. As for Anne Malley, I have never encountered anyone close to being as self-righteous, vindictive and just plain mean as her. Of course, after accusing you of vast ignorance, wilful blindness to the TRUTH, etc, etc. she will close a mean, accusatory post by wishing you God’s blessings. A transparent manipulator. She has left the Church in schism; now she should just leaveit alone.
caritas, please pay attention and use the correct spelling for each name you are referencing.
I am ANNE. There is also an ANNE T.
Ann Malley does not use an e at the end of her name.
Abaca is selectively silencing. More flip flopping evidence. Abeca recently posted that poor weak homosexual activist YFC gets picked on and then Abeca even encouraged YFC to continue to share his likeminded reasoning and Catholic views. Too much flip flopping and inconsistency.
Abeca Christian says:
August 19, 2014 at 4:54 pm
“This YFC wants to sell false compassion! (just like this priest is)
“:gay’ (a homosexual agenda name and people living those lifestyles). Most and if not all homosexuals, they get special treatment in schools, workplace etc etc….they are forcing people of faith to accept their agenda. So for what he just said, makes me angry because he is selling a propaganda so they can further their “gay” agendas! FALSE COMPASSION WALLAH! . People are more tolerant, even while I was growing up, I saw lot of tolerance. If they were bullied, well guess what…most of us were bullied at one point of another. **I was hated in high school because girls where jealous of my figure and my smile.** How about the kids that wore glasses, or the skinny kid on the back of the line. I don’t condone any type of bullying but I know that its human nature for people to bully anyone depending on the area. Even confused kids bully Christians. No one is making the Bible the number book in schools due to because Christians are being bullied, but instead they are pushing “gay” agendas.”
Abeca, just ignore them. They won’t stop right away, as long as they succeed in baiting you, they will continue. But if you stop letting them get your goat (which is all they really are doing) they will eventually stop..
Everyone here knows you and we know them.
Just let it go , like Jesus who gave no answer.
Although now I think you see why people warned you about her when she was buttering you up with flattery.
Always remember flattery is of the devil, one of the sins of the tongue.
I believe the Blessed Mother gave the grace of smelling roses so that the thoughts of their hearts would be laid bare. Probably because someone was being misled that is consecrated to her. But that is just a supposition.
We all see what they are doing and we see what they really are.
“I was hated in high school because girls where jealous of my figure and my smile.”
Similar to “I smelled it first”, this comment is also inconsistent not to mention a tad comical and over the top for someone who constantly extols the importance of remaining humble.
There are those within the Church who are extremely threatened by the thought of a reconciliation with the SSPX because it means that YFC’s fellow brand of Catholicism would NEVER be tolerated.
Catherine is taking out of context my postings, she has free will and sometimes people use it for evil and not for good. What else can we do with such a busy person as her. Such anxiety she has that she has taken a lot of her time to cut and paste, twist and deceive. Ann Malley and Catherine butcher the good articles of faith and turn them into a circus. Why not go to the thread (read the whole conveyance, not what you want to fill your head with falsehood) and read it over again Catherine but you won’t because you are only selectively posting what you want to sell.
Anyone condoning her bad behavior is disappointing because she works against the mission of the church. Her ego was hurt and so this is what she came up. Making up arguments that are not here. I post something, notice they come after with some sort of mean spirited response. Its been consistent.
No I do not selectively silence. Jut like you accused DOTTIE or one of the other posters of silencing…when in fact its not true.
Catherine lets pray the St. Michael exorcism prayer tonight. Only the good Lord will heal what needs healing. Have peace in your heart and trust in the Lord. God love you more.
You need to go to confession for braking the 8th Commandment, AGAIN!
We can joke about you and your inability to conform to this commandment, but honestly, you’re on the highway to hell and that’s not funny.
Tomorrow is promised to no one so you really need to get right with the Lord.
When you took the moniker Catherine you said it was about Catherine of Siena. So why are you talking about other people?
Thank you Anonymous, you are right. But she doesn’t care. Its all about her ego.
Let it go Catherine, for crying out loud.
I was web surfing, we found a traditional website that seemed so beautiful, they were promoting Bishop Fulton Sheen, so it moved me but as I kept reading, they had some awful things that were not Catholic. They were stating that the OF mass is not valid. They were bashing the OF Mass and the Pope. It was horrible. I think that this is the division we have in the church. I consider myself Traditional but I have never encountered so many people who bicker about their mass being better. Its discouraging, it just opened my eye’s. I use to defend these people, left and right, because I thought that my generation was mean to them but to tell you the truth, its really the other way around.
I had to get involved with this website to see the truth. Now when I attend the Latin Mass, which I love so much, I am concerned that some of its members will set a bad example. Like the veil police. The pastor there asked kindly of its members to please stop chasing people down because someone forgot to wear their veil. I experienced that myself and my guest and I felt uncomfortable. I usually wear my veil but I drove a different car and forgot to bring us veils, they usually have veils in the front of the church but this time, there was none. Here I am trying to bring people to the Latin mass and to see them feel so unwelcome. Well I’m sure it doesn’t happen in other Latin mass but it happened to us. But more and more people are attending our beautiful Latin Mass parish who are faithful to the Magisterium and we are seeing less and less of those issues.
Fortunately I have a great friendship with holy priests from both forms of the mass. They keep me focused on what matters the Most, Jesus! Peace Catherine, I prayed for you and Ann on my 4 miles walk today. God bless you both.
These are two different (links below) stories that prove just how powerful it was when the laity stood up for Padre Pio against the corrupt clergy who were trying to destroy him. Abeca Christian would have told these townspeople to stop gossiping while she talked about people being jealous of her because of her great figure, her nice smile and friendships with holy priests. My mother was wise, she taught her daughters to not hug priests because they were consecrated to God. My mother always said, “Remember they were men first” so I hope Abeca isn’t reminding priests about being hated in high school because of her great figure and nice smile. Abeca has made several posts regarding her figure on CCD and my wise mum would call that “knowing exactly what you are doing.”
Now back to the business of our faithful priests who will be persecuted when they teach the full truth. Please read how God even allowed a con man’s schemes to work in favor of Padre Pio. This con man knew how to play hard ball with the corrupt and vicious clergy who were mercilessly persecuting Padre Pio because his saintliness affirmed them in their corruption and it made them hate him all the more. God wrote straight with a crooked line. So yes it is true that Padre Pio remained obedient yet he was very aware and most appreciative of how the townspeople publicly stood up for him and he never tried to silence the townspeople who tried to defend him.
continued from Dec. 11, 2014 at 12:37 am
Today we are also seeing many priests being punished. ostracized, silenced and transferred for simply upholding Church teaching. This is what happens when the laity remains silent.
“Morcaldi was an ex-Army officer, very intelligent and volatile. Because of his open mindedness, he was able to establish himself in political life starting from the ground floor. He was also one of the first great friends of Padre Pio, and had an important role in these controversial events. He had already used his talents as a brilliant lawyer to counter some of the attacks which tried to destroy the Friar. In that summer of 1923, when the San Giovanese were preparing a revolt to block the transfer of Padre Pio, the mayor put himself at the head of the movement, searching to placate the citizens, but at the same time promising them: “If the transfer of Padre Pio is attempted, I will resign as mayor and as a simple citizen will fight with you”. But meanwhile, the Padre had told the mayor about the ecclesiastical proceedings against him, also told him that he did not wish to disobey the authorities.
The Church authorities, faced with the consequences of a protest movement that was so menacing, suspended the transfer order. And from those dramatic times there remains what can be considered a true spiritual testament, that gives witness to the strong ties between Padre Pio, and the townspeople who were ready to defend him against all ignoble attacks.”
continued from Dec. 11. 2014 at 12:48 am
The Strange Victory of Padre Pio
“Brunatto, who had been convicted of fraud, had found his way to San Giovanni Rotondo in the early 1920s and attached himself to Padre Pio—perhaps to escape from the law, perhaps out of genuine religious devotion, perhaps because of his remarkable instinct for opportunity, and perhaps through some combination of the three. Brunatto wrote one of the first biographies of the future saint (which the Church promptly banned) and skimmed money from the flow of cash arriving from around the world to Padre Pio, according to one Church report. When Padre Pio found himself reduced almost to a condition of house arrest, Brunatto fought back with the methods he had acquired in his earlier life. He assembled a dossier of the alleged misdeeds and sexual misconduct of the Puglese clergy and, at a high-level meeting at the Vatican, threatened to publish it as a book. Not long after, the Church decided to lighten most of the restrictions on Padre Pio’s ministry.”
Fr. Timothy Radcliff has been and still is pretty much a regular at Gomez’s REC in Anaheim. Please help us alert those who would be alerted to the dangers this Congress poses for their eternal souls!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Kenneth M. Fisher, Founding Director
Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc.
Mr. Fisher—- May I politely suggest that proper respect calls for you to refer to the Archbishop of Los Angeles not as “Gomez” but rather as Archbishop Jose Gomez?
Once Ann Malley was invited to Abeca Christians for tea and sweets and then was told – online – that she was using reverse psychology so as to convert me. Such nonsense tactics, while not snakes themselves, are indeed snakelike in their lack of forthrightness.
‘Winning’ souls to conversion comes by being truthful – not sometimes, but all the time. In charity.
Ann Malley i meant it. Your still welcomed for tea. But not in the way you view reasons. God bless you more. I also recalled you comparing me to a saint. I dont remember which saint but you can ask Catherine to look it up and cut and paste since she has alot of time on her hands. But i dont have a negative mind to think you had ill intentions or to suggest them as you tend to do here against me. I left for a few days. Prayed for you and Catherine especially more for YFC.
Abeca, I would be happy to come for tea, but not for a spiritual beating about how I am supposedly making up stories about Mother Church, not when you advertise here that you believe what you hear on CMTV. The October Synod and the preceding survey of Catholics also provides witness, verifiable witness to deep fissures.
Your aligning yourself now with those who openly promote rotting the Church from within and the assumption that you can sway them by these public displays is also severely off putting. So yes, I recognize the Church, something you seem incapable of accepting, but like many others am not blind or quiet about the cancer you would otherwise embrace to the detriment of all – including those souls you are so eager to have join Her.
Please read what you write. And if you want to be a Saint, don’t rely on the words of others telling you that you are for those are not your friends. Not unless those friends are in earnest pursuit of sanctity themselves. Otherwise you’ll just be used and not for the purposes desired.
NEVER TOLERATE or SUPPORT MORTAL SIN.
NEVER TOLERATE or SUPPORT DESCEPTION.
Choosing to live in mortal sin, colors everything else in one’s life.
This person is always supporting those things that justify their chosen sin.
Exactly i hope those two ladies listen to you Pete. You just condoned their bad behavior. Envy and their false witnese of another are serious sins. So wake up and smell the coffee or in Catherine’s world cut and paste, mock it to protect your ego.
“Keep close to the Catholic Church at all times, for the Church alone can give you true peace, since she alone possesses Jesus, the true Prince of Peace, in the Blessed Sacrament.”― Saint Padre Pio
CCC: 907 ” In accord with the knowledge, competence, and preeminence which they possess, [lay people] have the right and even at times a duty
to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters which pertain to the good of the Church,
and they have a right to make their opinion known to the other Christian faithful,
with due regard to the integrity of faith and morals and reverence toward their pastors, and with consideration for the common good and the dignity of persons.”
We must embrace TRUTH at all time.
We must never tolerate sin.
Good EVA keep that close to your heart and remember that its all about saving souls. Good reminder to all. Our Pastor this past Sunday Mass discussed that even people from within the church could be envious of others and their gifts. A good reminder of what this Saint went through. With St. Padre Pio, there were people who bore false witness against him. He was persecuted by even some of our church leadership but He was still obedient and has set a good example to us all. Saint Padre Pio dealt with envious people.
Every month on a chosen Monday, a few of our parishes have a special Mass in memory of Saint Padre Pio. It is so beautiful. One summer, they had a special mass and benediction, prayerful OF Mass and even one of our local priests from the Latin Mass was present to give holy Communion. It united many parish priests. It was celebrated in Spring Valley. I pray that they will have it again some day.
Why do those who denounce/disagree with teachings from the Church’s appointed Magisterium often “CCC 907” take no heed of the introductory —and limiting—words “in accord with the knowledge, competence and preeminence which they possess”. For instance, do Ann Malley, Catherine, Janek, Linda!Marie! possess any of these things? You wouldn’t be able to discern it from their posts. Let them disclose the evidence of their knowledge and competence in areas such as patristics, sacramental theology, liturgy—before they spout off some more on their pet theories. If they don’t, we’ll know they are merely blowhards, and mean ones at that!
Caritas, your chosen moniker betrays you, for it is not with love that you post. Especially when you castigate the CCD monitors and then never even think to apologize. As to knowledge/understanding, you may wish to learn the basics yourself, that is the basis of logical conversation and debate, before attempting to categorize others or their level of understanding.
To Ann Malley. True to form. You pontificate on theological questions. Your perfect right. But you castigate those who disagree with you. When asked to tell us your theological qualifications so readers can determine whether yours is a reasoned opinion or just shooting off your mouth, you deride, accuse, deflect—but never answer the question. BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO THEOLOGICAL EXPERTISE.
You have a propensity for believing people are shooting their mouth off like you, caritas – something you still haven’t apologized for in castigating the CCD monitors. That said, I have never claimed any theological expertise. I am not pontificating about high matters, either, but rather that which is commonly observable.
The only response received, even from those so called competent in theological matters, is the quoting of that which negates the reality of what is experienced/witnessed in practice or repeating the requisite gag order. That is why you as well as others who prefer the ambiguity of ‘theological’ sophistry cannot accept the humble witness of Mr. Kalb on the other thread when discussing the very real protestantization of the mass as evidenced in the rite of Paul VI. It’s kind of like telling a person they do not have the credentials necessary to recognize a dangerously infected toe without first asking a professional if the puss oozing into one’s sock is actually puss.
By your reckoning the assurance of a medical ‘professional’ on the matter should render the patient happy and numb as their toe continues to fester only to result in its subsequently rotting off. Good luck with that. Even with the excess of capital letters that communicate your desperation, much like puss communicating infection.
Forgetting the silly analogy, here is the real issue:
Do you believe that the prayer of the Church is from the Holy Spirit?
All abuses at Mass are not of the Holy Spirit. We have established that. Now you appear to believe that if any error or abuse occurs it is the fault of the Holy Spirit and we believe that it is the fault of the pastor or celebrant of the Mass.
Your silly intimation that abuses result from the Holy Ghost represents a severe reading comprehension problem on your part, mous. Try stepping out of your box and using your intellect to avoid the occasion. If certain things do not pose a significant occasion for you, give thanks to God for the grace you have received, but do not castigate others for their efforts to avoid that which leads them to sin.
So back to the analogy, you may have built up a tolerance for that which leads to infections, but others die from such nonsense. Have a care for souls, mous, instead of your own personal rigor in being right in accordance with your own narrow understanding.
If you desire to hound anybody, hound the leadership that allows such abuses which are abuses precisely because they are a misuse of authority and misuse of authority begets distrust in the sheep. Your ire takes the wrong direction.
Caritas of course Ann M says it betrays you because her pride does not like correction. She and Catherine are perfect and are never wrong. Sounds like the devil has them where he likes them to be. Their bad behavior needs correction. Before they feel the need to take the splinter of your eye, they would be closer to our beloved Lord if they removed the log of their own eye first. It will be then that their tower of pride would be torn down and perhaps they would give a better witness of their faith.
God bless you caritas.
Abeca, I don’t recognize you any more. You’re sounding meaner by the day and quoting the saints doesn’t soften your stance. If anything it creates a real disconnect between the beauty and truth spoken by them and the way you use their words like bludgeons. I pray you’re okay and that your old self returns.
Sacred Scripture which in entirety contains the word of God (CCC 81);
the “Catechism of the Catholic Church, second edition” which contains the Doctrine of the Faith;
and the Code of Canon Law;
and GIRM (General Instruction of the Roman Missal) for the OF Mass;
are easily available for everyone to study or read.
This is not rocket science.
Unfortunately those Priests who were not properly formed in the Seminary (and this includes some Bishops)
and those Nuns who were not properly formed in the Convent
– who have not read the CCC in entirety – know less than many Catholic laity today.
Even today there are some Seminaries and some Convents that do not use the CCC as a required text for their novices.
Unfortunately the CCC did not exist prior to 1997.
Thank you for all those Padre Pio quotes, Abeca Christian.
Thank you Anonymous. God bless you richly for your kindness and charity!
You are being used to the bone, Abeca. God bless you. Someday perhaps you will see it. But not in my lifetime, I suspect….
John 13:34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; even as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
35 By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
To Ann Malley, You’ve repeatedly accused me of not apologizing for an intemperate comments to the CCD Moderator. Actually, I posted TWO apologies, and on the same sites on which you posted. Didn’t read them? But don’t let the facts get in the way of your accusations.
If you did apologize, and I missed it, then good for you. But your initial actions still show a propensity for ‘shooting off your mouth’ and dismissing logical observations.
Why are you so concerned for me? Dont you know by now that it is Jesus whom i serve? Remember sweet Ann Malley not to let your left hand know what your right hand is doing. I wish you would give me a little credit by now. Pray the rosary with me.
Considering what the ‘Godfather’ movies did for Italian / American Catholics, and later the ‘Boondocks Saints’ bestowed upon Irish / American Catholic – one can only look forward with true relish to what the “Painstaking efforts” of Hollywierd will produce this time.
Considering the service that Norman Lear’s Meat Puppets Archie (Carol O’Connor) & Meatball (Rob Reiner) performed on behalf of the Alinskyite agenda of Propagandizing the Public, and Reiner later Leading Hollyweird’s Big $$ Attack on Marriage / Proposition 8 – I am sure that the same system will ‘Do Justice’ to the Church again. Ahem.
Bill MAHER said in a Brietbart interview:
“Good point. Also, I think there is a gay mafia. I think if you cross them, you do get whacked.
And with that, Maher joined Andrew Sullivan, another high-profile, pro-gay marriage leftist, in condemning the power-mad mob mentality that hounded a man from his job, not because of anything he did, but because of his personal beliefs:
‘The whole episode disgusts me – as it should disgust anyone interested in a tolerant and diverse society. If this is the gay rights movement today – hounding our opponents with a fanaticism more like the religious right than anyone else – then count me out. If we are about intimidating the free speech of others, we are no better than the anti-gay bullies who came before us.’
I’m looking forward to this movie about Padre Pio. I hope it will accurately portray his saintly life.
Even his obedience to the Pope when the Saint was banned from saying public Masses and hearing confessions for a period of time.
” The Devil is like a mad dog tied by a chain. Beyond the length of the chain he cannot catch hold of anyone. And you, therefore, keep your distance.
If you get too close you will be caught.
Remember, the Devil has only one door with which to enter into our soul: our will.
There are no secret or hidden doors. No sin is a true sin if we have not willfully consented.”- Padre Pio
I’m glad that this movie is going to give considerable attention to the corporal works of mercy that he was engaged in. For the longest time, I only knew about Padre Pio in regards to his mystical life (stigmata, etc.). “ Since coming to the convent in 1916 Padre Pio wanted a hospital in San Giovanni Rotondo. The convent was surrounded by poverty stricken sick people, in a depressed area of the deep South of Italy, were tuberculosis, pellagra, typhoid fever, smallpox, septicemia, meningitis, Spanish flu, infantile paralysis, where endemic.” – Gallagher, J. (1995). Padre Pio, The Pierced Priest.
Abeca Christian, you might want to put “Card. De Paolis on communion for divorced, remarried: If approved, the consequences would be of unprecedented gravity” in your search bar and read it. It can also be found on Fr. Z’s blog. Fr. Z, whether you agree with him on everything or not, does keep up with what is going on in the synod. I am sure your other good priest friends can fill you in on some things also.
Sorry! I should have posted this on some other article. I thought Abeca Christian might be interested. But wrong time, wrong place.
Yes Ann T. Praying the rosary consistently for these ladies and YFC has caused the devil much anger that the wrong time and wrong place has been used against me with false insinuations and false accusations but I Dont care. YFC the devil doesnt want you to choose Christ so anyone challanging you to reason, which you can reason, angers him. Choose Christ not your homosexuality. Dont let this bad example from others get in the way of your salvation.
May I suggest that you all ‘Get A Room’ (as in Chat Room) if you wish to continue the ‘flame war’ – Itself Instigated by one of our ‘anonymous’ Resident Harpy Homosex Trolls…
– That or petition the site administrators to allow ‘Bulletin Boards’ for Pro / Con positions on certain issued to be summarized – rather than the increasingly personal back and forth now going on.
I Take No Position on who is ‘right or wrong’ – although I could weigh in on individual points.
Rather I submit that your ‘discussion’ has reached a point where it is more private than public, in that someone would have to immerse themselves in a long running highly personal exchange – just to have a hope of figuring out who / what is saying what about who.
This is the Real Purpose of the Alinskyite Trolls here – to Disrupt a Catholic website BAMN…
(By Any Means Necessary – which ironically is also the name adopted by the Rioters continuing the tradition of ‘occupational’ trashing Oakland, as relayed in today’s ‘news’ paper. BTW – Some are indeed paid ‘professional activist / rioters’)
And Trolls don’t care how it happens – their interest is that the message boards become too much of a chore for others to read – effectively Censored the site by Proxy through encouraging Long Flaming Exchanges – Thus discouraging other Readers.
Find Other Ways to Simplify and Highlight for others your differences – without a committee of Flaming ‘anonymous’ Harpy Trolls playing ‘referee’.
Regardless – Fighting in a burning house is a mugs game.
Thanks, Michael. God bless :)
Thank you CCD editors for your remarkable patience and thank you Michael McDermott for your post. God bless!
McDermott is obviously accusing me of flaming the wars between Abeca Christian, Catherine, and Ann Malley, even though I have consistently asked for the attacks to stop. The claws that never seem to retract, the attempt to make a vicious and highly personal point over and over and over again, only seek to turn people off to the Gospel. As does the calling of people “Alynskyite trolls”, “gaystapo”, the repeated drudging up of Dyke march lawsuits litigated (and lost) a decade ago, as well as false accusations that I flame this war. This website seems designed around the notion that it knows that is holy and just, which would be fine by itself but rather than simply promoting the positive aspects in those beliefs, it regularly engages in posts, and allows comment section posts, that seek to take out, BAMN, anyone who disagrees with them. It is a mindset. It is part and parcel of what CCD is about: Take priests, bishops, lay people, politicians, or anyone else who you think is bad, and try to force them out of their jobs, out of their pews, and silence them.
YFC, you are on a Catholic web site.
You pretend to be Catholic by your chosen moniker.
Never encourage mortal sin of any kind.
Never tolerate mortal sin of any kind.
There is nothing “positive” in mortal sin.
If you have any questions regarding Mortal Sin(s), read the Bible and CCC in entirety.
If you are Catholic, you may not deviate from the CCC
which contains the Doctrine of the Faith
and must be taken in entirety.
No you are wrong, Evan. Allow me to correct you in all charity. I do not pretend to be a Catholic, I AM a catholic. I do not tolerate mortal sin, I do not encourage mortal sin. I appreciate your references to the CCC, please refer yourself to the chapters regarding, especially, the requirements to follow one’s conscience. You might also delve into those having to do with the primacy of love, and the scriptures which command that it is not good for man to be alone.
“… please refer yourself to the chapters regarding, especially, the requirements to follow one’s conscience.”
Then do not talk to others about disobedience, YFC, for your idea of ‘primacy of conscience’ negates the requisite formation of a Catholic conscience. A ‘primacy of love’ without the moral base gives way to all manner of gray area that you promote here – i.e. that homosexual sex is only gravely sinful for ‘some people’. And that, friend, is misleading and you know it.
And how are you interpreting those things, YFC?
What is the intention of the Lord and of the Church, the meaning that they intended to convey?
” and the scriptures which command that it is not good for man to be alone.” which is why God in heaven gave us women, not other men. Quit trying to twist scripture to fit your sodomite desires
Ann Malley, if you look up the quote (Perhaps our archivist Catherine can help you), you will find that what I said is that same sex sexual activity is a mortal sin for at least some people. That is a very different thing than saying something is a mortal sin for only some people.
YFC, 1+3=4 is the same as 3+1=4. No need for an archivist. Your ongoing attempt to misguide the young into losing their souls is evident, just like your fear of that which is clear.
YFC, (YOUR FAITHFUL CATHOLIC) you do support Mortal Sin by your own posts.
You fully support homosexual acts, and homosexual Marriage.
If not, denounce them both immediately.
Gen 19:1-29; Rom 1:24-27; 1 Cor 6:10; 1 Tim 1:10; Jude 1:7
St Paul – 1 Cor 11:27-30 about condemnation for receiving Holy Communion unworthily.
CCC: 357, 2358, 2359, and
” 2396 Among the sins gravely contrary to chastity are masturbation, fornication, pornography, and homosexual practices. “
YFC, the bishops are now speaking out against the use of fossil fuels. If you can think of ANY way to silence these fellows, I’d love to hear it! Better yet, I wish they would reread their job descriptions at least once before they retire to mountaintop mansions and beach houses.
PS. I thinks it’s really amusing that you actually think our tiny little voices have the least effect on anyone! That fear you feel that free speech is dangerous is just another example of how far gone most of this country is. Also, your veiled criticism of CCD and their nefarious agenda is so ironic when they allow you unlimited space to air your persecution complexes daily, monthly and yearly to a high degree of license. Let’s strive for some gratitude and some common sense, shall we? Be fair. Be empathetic. I will too…for the nonce. Heh heh
Sticks and stones can break your bones,
but words can break your heart.
YFC: Why would you frequent often this website that supposedly, “causes kids to die?” If you are so sure that websites like this “cause kids to die” show us the proof. There is NONE! You are destroying lives of these kids by your acceptance, support, and promotion of the mortal sin of ACTIVE homosexuality.
RR, please see my comment below at 8:01 am for proof, complete with a link where the source material can be found. In brief, LGB youth who come from highly rejecting families are 8.4 times as likely to have attempted suicide as LGB peers who reported no or low levels of family rejection.
Why do I frequent this website? As I have said several times on CCD, I am here most importantly to give these kids hope that there is somebody listening to the cruel things that people say about them, that I am here to stand up for them, and let them know that I will speak the truth that Christ loves them unconditionally, no matter what people might say or do in the name of a false catholicism or a false notion of Christianity.
…your attempt at giving these ‘kids’ hope is to give them misleading information regarding what is necessary to save their soul. So yes, Christ loves us, that is true. But our response to that love has to be a yes to Him, not to the disordered passions that you would approve under the erroneous doctrine you post here.
In other words, Christ loves us and gives us the free will to embrace Him or our disordered nature. The choice is ours, but God is always there awaiting us to make the right choice. So please, stop your deception. If not for yourself then out of true love for the little ones.
Christ loves everybody unconditionally. But not everybody loves Him. And yet fewer love Him more than they love themselves. The love of Jesus is an abyss of mercy. But one should not presume on that mercy. There are certain acts (murder, adultery, covetousness, theft, cruelty etc) which block you from receiving all the love that Jesus has for you. Since we are speaking about being gay, that does not inhibit God’s love at all. But one must pray and keep one’s mind off things of the flesh. There is a path to holiness. God’s love desires that you aspire to this. A lot of times Catholicism is identified with a strict moral code (and it does have that) and it is necessary, but the main purpose of Catholicism is to unite the individual with God.
And what is wrong with their speaking out against the use of fossil fuels? Do you not think that preserving the ability of human life to sustain itself on Mother Earth (as I believe Saint Francis referred to her) is a moral imperative? As though I had any ability to silence them anyhow even if I did disagree with them?
TO your second post, that of 4″43AM, Dana, you need to understand please that there are little ones, precious little folks, say from age maybe as young as 4 up through at least 20 or maybe even 30, who DO go to the internet to figure out what people are saying, what people are thinking, what people are teaching. These delicate folks, long before they ever talk about their sexuality with anyone, long before they have committed any sexual sin, go to the internet. If they have a deep faith, they google, as I did, terms like “catholic gay”, and they find websites like this. They read them, and they use sites like this to judge how they would be treated if they came out “in real life”. And guess what, gay kids commit suicide at an astounding rate, because they go to sites like this that give them no hope, before they ever get to feel the loving embrace of their parents, their sisters and brothers, or even, tragically, their Lord.
High ranking clergy should stay out of politics. Based upon their miserable failing record they should do their own jobs of teaching the Faith. How can they not address their own failings over the last 45 years ?
On topics and politics that are up to the prudential judgment of the individual, Bishops have no right to interject themselves using their Catholic title.
Why are they too lazy to do their own jobs, and take care of their own Diocese ?
YFC, far more youngsters die from listening to people like you who encourage them to misuse their bodies than do those who commit suicide. Just look at all the young men who got AIDS and other horrible injuries and diseases when men like Harvey Milk encouraged them in their sin. Please get off your pity pot.
Anne T., fortunately, very few Americans die of HIV any longer, so while you might once have had some numbers to support your ideas, those numbers have turned against you. Believe me, sites like this one cause kids to die.
Long live Fossil Fuels YFC, I know your mindset is to impose impractical and expense “green energy” on the rest us. which is really the aim of all Left, control and enforced conformity….
“…Believe me, sites like this one cause kids to die.” Absurd, YFC, but your endorsement of misguided behavior under the banner of a ‘life of love’ and the ‘primacy of conscience’ are promoting malformed consciences and a life of bondage to sin.
That kills souls and ruins lives, too, neither of which seems to disturb you.
I can verify from my personal experience that kids do google things that they are curious about or questioning and that they can get really messed up by what is on the Internet.
There really isn’t anything you can do except pray that they will talk to someone.
This applies not just to issues of sexuality, but religion and faith, too. And relationships. (There is some really bad advice out there.)
And there are predators and well-meaning people who just have different values and morals.
How about some facts:
• LGB youth are 4 times more likely, and questioning youth are 3 times more likely, to attempt suicide as their straight peers. 
• Suicide attempts by LGB youth and questioning youth are 4 to 6 times more likely to result in injury, poisoning, or overdose that requires treatment from a doctor or nurse, compared to their straight peers. 
• Nearly half of young transgender people have seriously thought about taking their lives, and one quarter report having made a suicide attempt. 
• LGB youth who come from highly rejecting families are 8.4 times as likely to have attempted suicide as LGB peers who reported no or low levels of family rejection. 
• Each episode of LGBT victimization, such as physical or verbal harassment or abuse, increases the likelihood of self-harming behavior by 2.5 times on average. 
YFC, I want to remind you that it is not the fact that you are gay that causes you to get such grief here. It is the fact that you stand up for gay marriage which is contrary to the Catholic Faith.
As a gay person, you have the chance to help gay youth more than any straight person here. You could say: I am gay and I understand and promote everything that the Catholic Church believes and teaches because these are the words of life.
There is a path to holiness and yes, it involves self-sacrifice and yes, it involves not giving in to one’s passions and even to one’s sympathies for other’s difficulties in life. As gay people, we have a unique challenge that only the Catholic Church has recognized and supported. The power of the Holy Name of Jesus and the grace from the prayers and Sacraments of the Catholic Church will sustain you through all trials and bring you to a happiness that you never realized was possible.
anonymous, I would like to remind you that it is the obligation of parents to love their children no matter what. That to reject their kids, whether in the home or on this website, whether gay or straight, is an abomination. I’d like to remind you that the Catechism of the Catholic Church has as much to say to straight people about homosexuality as it does to gay people. It says to straight people, and I quote, “The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided.”
May I remind you that when you see fellow posters who violate the precepts of the Catechism on how straight people ought to treat gay people, that you “give them grief here” if you are going to stand up for those who give me grief here.
YFC, no child that age should be allowed on an unfiltered or uncensored computer. I do not hear you speaking out against all the homosexual sites with all their porn. How about going to the websites of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, etc. and telling them to close down their sites.
YFC, loving one’s child is fulfilled by those parents who let their kids know the danger of acting on same sex attractions or any sexual attractions outside of marriage. Being dishonest about the grave nature of that which is sinful is negating the reality that we all must carry our cross. And those with same sex attraction should be loved enough by their parents to help carry that cross in accordance with God’s law. Giving in to supporting a person’s perverse inclinations, no matter how unwanted, is not helping anyone – least of all the child.
Stop equating acceptance of bad/immoral behavior with love. If such were the case, Christ would have told us all to relax and enjoy because He loves us and was going to pay for our sins so we could just chill.
No child has ever gone to the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence website, whatever you may think of them, and felt unloved and worthless. As for porn sites, I’m pretty sure they don’t have blogs for me to opine upon. However, I do agree with you that adults should monitor their children’s activities online, and yes, porn sites, the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, and California Catholic Daily are among the sites that are unsuitable for children. Parents should also monitor their children’s activities at home as there are dangers there, too, like hot irons and stoves. Not all parents monitor their children properly online or in the home.
YFC, I DID stand up for you.
And, like almost everytime I stand up for you, you burned me.
Anonymous, I’m not sure that you stood up for me. Like many others, you imply that I have no life in Christ, that I am do not participate in the Sacraments, and that I am not happy. Nothing could be further from the truth. I understand that a lot of gay people who have forsaken love, and those who think they speak for Christ when they implore gay people to forsake love, want to believe that the rest of us are unhappy, are unspiritual, don’t know God, don’t live lives of love and commitment. You make these determinations without so much as gathering the facts about me.
The problem is that people who think that if I’m gay and in a relationship that I must be unhappy try very very hard to MAKE people like me unhappy. They try very hard to make gay kids unhappy. Well, all too often, you succeed in making innocent gay kids unhappy even if they never act on their sexuality. Hence the stats I provided earlier that LGB kids in unwelcome homes are 8.6 times more likely to attempt suicide than those who do not. Yes you can succeed in making people very very unhappy when you want to.
“YFC, *I* DID stand up for *you*.
And, like almost everytime *I*stand up for *you*, *you* burned *me*.”
The mystery is solved. NEITHER one stands up for God’s Revealed Truths FIRST. Getting burned is a natural consequence when we place God last.
” Like many others, you imply that I have no life in Christ, that I am do not participate in the Sacraments, and that I am not happy.”
No, I did not.
No one asked you to forsake love. I asked you, as a Catholic, to stand up for the path of righteousness that is the Catholic Faith. It does require renouncements, but not of love.
No one wants you to be unhappy. You have a huge chip on your shoulder. I have never made any innocent gay kid unhappy.
I am very well aware of the suicide rates among gay, transgender and questioning youth. My point is they are not called to forsake anything that straight kids are not called to forsake. And there is a whole universe, a cloud of witnesses who love them and will support them. And you who can support them in this (because you are supposed to be chaste and gay and Catholic and all about love), lose it on people who are trying to tell them the eternal truth.
You are being extremely ugly to me and I have not done anything to you. You choose to see me as an enemy. You choose to falsely accuse me. Is it hate?
YFC, no Catholic has a goal of being happy in this world. We are not promised that. We are promised happiness in Heaven with God. Traditionally, Catholics seek to renounce not just sin, but even licit pleasures to mortify themselves, as a penance for their sins and offered for the relief of the souls in Purgatory or for the conversion of sinners. Prayer and sacrifice, prayer and fasting are prescribed for the spiritual health of all. The ideal is to give up all worldly goods, although it is mostly vowed religious who do that. And they are the most joyful of all Catholics.
Catherine, yes I DID stand up for God’s revealed Truth.
YFC stop resisting. Turn away from those theologies that have prevent you from receiving many more graces. Dont allow the devil to cheapen your mind. You can reason within God’s natural law. If you can recognize Christ’s holy Catholic church, then you have a responsibilty to nurture your soul by seeking the pearls it contains which lead towards sanctfying grace. Im praying for you.
YFC you didnt steam up the war between those two ladies. They did that on their own. Their beef against me was when Ann Malley took personally my concern for her not being in full communion and of course they also took issue with my charity towards you. As you can see they molested mocked and cook out of context my charity. I do not stand by you when you error against the natural law or anything else againt mother church but since Ive been praying for you, i only grew more compassionate for the ordeal you now face because of sins. Im sorry that these two ladies set a bad example. Im sorry that some people have demonized you. We are all sinners but not all sinners choose to encourage others to embrace sin. Do you know what absolute truth is? I suggest you do more studying on that and on the natural law. You know this. Its been said before in charity
Michael you are wrong to blame this on others and taking off the responsibilty where it truly applies. To those two ladies who have turned this into a circus. Its about saving souls but to those ladies its about their ego. You are not being charitable by condoning their bearing false witness againt me. I thank you for trying to help these ladies but dont hold your breath, since their bad behavior goes unconfessed and its encouraged and uncorrected, expect the circus to carry on and more missed opportunities to spread the gospel in action because of their mocking and uncharitable behavior towards other Faithful Catholics.
YFC, those with same sex attraction (SSA) are not animals.
They do not need to give in to their sexual desires. And should be taught that temptations are not sins. So there is no need to commit suicide.
– – – Homosexuals who teach youth with SSA that they should degrade their bodies via sodomy etc., are guilty of assisted suicide.
Assisted suicide, really? How melodramatic.
When you encourage impressionable children or teens or young adults to sin – and abuse their bodies – you are guilty as well.
This does not exclude suicide.
See CCC 1868.
YFC (Your Fellow Catholic), you do not know Sacred Scripture
Parents must NEVER TOLERATE Mortal Sin.
Supporting mortal sin sends the message that mortal sin is OK. Mortal sin is NEVER OK.
Un-repented Mortal Sins send Souls to Hell for eternity.
If people love their children and their neighbor, they will certainly not want them to go to Hell.
Mortal Sin is not SSA (same sex attraction) which is merely a temptation. Temptations are not sins.
Sexual acts outside of marriage (between one man and one woman) are mortal sins.
As for what families must do please read: Mt 10:34-39.
Gen 19:1-29; Rom 1:24-27; 1 Cor 6:10; 1 Tim 1:10; Jude 1:7
St Paul – 1 Cor 11:27-30 about condemnation for receiving Holy Communion unworthily.
CCC: 2357. 2358. 2359, and 2396.
You will never find support for Mortal Sins on this web site by the vast majority of posters. So you are wasting your time.
Amen to that Oscar. I agree. But wait Catherine turned me into a celebrity. Lets see what she will cook up when she chooses to cut and paste what Abeca has to say. Bearing false witness and mocking the gifts in other Christians is alwo
Is also a serious sin. St Padre Pio and our Lord had to endure those things too. Praise God for our Lord’s mercy because there is always hope. Pray the rosary with me for the conversion of all sinners.
Today is the feast day of St. Olympia. She was mocked and criticized, too. St. John Chrysostom wrote to her and told her “I cannot stop calling you blessed. The patience and dignity with which you have borne your sorrows, your prudence wisdom and charity have won you great glory and reward.”
Keep pursuing virtue and praying for the conversion of sinners.