The following comes from a Dec. 3 posting by Michael Cook on MercatorNet.com.
Why do people in the United States (and probably other Western countries, as well) over-estimate the proportion of gays and lesbians in the population? Ever since 1948, when the Kinsey Report suggested 1-in-10, Americans have accepted wildly exaggerated figures. Last year, The Smithsonian, the official web magazine of the famous museum in Washington DC, even suggested that it was 1-in-5!
However, a recent government survey in the United Kingdom found that in 2013, 1.6% of UK adults identified as gay, lesbian or bisexual. This is a very small proportion of the population, but it becomes even smaller when the figures are broken up. Only 1.6% of men identified as gay; only 0.8% of women as lesbians; and 0.5% of men and women as bisexual.
The percentages varied hugely by region. In London the figure for gay, lesbians or bisexual was 3.2% but in the North East region, it was only 1.1%.
How accurate are these statistics? A spokesman for the gay rights group Stonewall suspects that they must be higher: “We don’t think the figures are completely accurate yet. People aren’t necessarily going to know the sexual orientation of everybody living in a household and some people would not feel comfortable telling a complete stranger their sexuality.”
This is quite possible, but corresponding figures for the United States and other countries yield similar results. The Williams Institute, a gay think tank at UCLA Law School, has compared a number of US and international surveys. The lowest overall percentage of gays, lesbians and bisexuals came from the Norwegian Living Conditions Survey (1.2%); the highest from the US National Survey of Sexual Health and Behavior (5.6%). It found that international surveys, which varied from 1.2% to 2.1%, estimated lower percentages of people who identified as gay, lesbian or bisexual than US surveys, which ranged from 1.7% to 5.6%.
Obtaining accurate figures about the size of the LGBT population is a critical first step to informing a host of public policy and research topics. It matters greatly whether the number of people affected by policy changes is 0.1% of the population or 10% of the population.
So it’s a bit alarming, then, that the public wildly over-estimates the percentage of people who are LGBT and therefore the number of people who wish to contract same-sex marriages. According to the Gallup polling service in 2002:
“Whether increased acceptance of homosexuality has led to an upsurge in the number of positive media portrayals of gay characters or vice versa, one result seems to be that Americans now tend to overestimate the gay population in America. While most expert estimates place America’s homosexual population at 10% or less, Americans tend to guess that the number is higher, around 20%.”
About 10 years later another Gallup poll found that public perception had increased still further:
“U.S. adults, on average, estimate that 25% of Americans are gay or lesbian. More specifically, over half of Americans (52%) estimate that at least one in five Americans are gay or lesbian, including 35% who estimate that more than one in four are. Thirty percent put the figure at less than 15%.”
What does it mean if people think that the proportion of homosexuals is about 1-in-4, when the figure is really 1-in-100? That the public is so fearful of gays and lesbians that it thinks they are everywhere? That the public has become so sympathetic that it thinks they are everywhere?…
To read the original story, click here.
Cultural politics, pure and simple. Homosexual activists want their ranks to look as large as possible, intimidating to those opposed to them and making their behavior look normal. Sin is sin, regardless of how many – or few – engage in it.
Finally a good article on the LGBT question. The article correctly lays out the data we have in front of us, and offers it pretty objectively.
Kirstin, homosexual activists are not promoting the idea that one in four Americans are LGBT. Data from LGBT organizations, from the census, from think tanks all point to a number about 1 in 20 people being LGBT at most. Probably more like 1 in 30. How people came to think there are so many gay people is anybody’s guess. Maybe it is from websites like CCD, which feature about a third of their articles on LGBT issues, and the comments section of CCD, which almost always ends up being a discussion of LGBT issues. It is topical, because of the legal headlines, so it seems more prominent than it actually is. Other people are obsessed with the issue, so they blow up the prominence beyond any reason.
If 1 in 30 of us are LGBT, in fact, it really implicates the argument that allowing same sex marriage will somehow result in the downfall of marriage as an institution or even the downfall of civilization itself. Think about it, if 1 in 30 are gay, and half of them choose to marry, then 1 person in 60 will be a married gay person. It is really really hard to figure out how such a small number of marriages will affect the institution of marriage overall, the rates at which people enter into marriages, or the rates of marriages ending in divorce.
Marriage was instituted by God. It is an institution between one man and one woman. Fornication is condemned by God.
If a person lives in SF, West Hollywood or San Diego’s Hillcrest, it’s easy to over estimate the gay population. If one lives in a small town in the South or Midwest where gays are often in the closet it’s natural to under estimate. Also there isn’t a bright line between gay, bi and straight. I know women who describe themselves as “bisexual-married-to-a-man” whom most people would think of as straight.
All sexual activity outside of marriage (between one man and one woman) is a Mortal Sin.
CCC: ” 2396 Among the sins gravely contrary to chastity are masturbation, fornication, pornography, and homosexual practices.”
Of course Adultery is a mortal sin – a sexual act with the valid spouse of another.
Too bad YFC that you fail to see the connection between homosexual activists and their agenda. One in the same!
Their presumed power is in bullying people who do not agree with their views. Naturally, if homosexual activists can convince us that their numbers are massive, it seems more difficult to oppose their demands.
Wrong thinking, sin is still sin, regardless of how many people subscribe to it.
Kirstin, you had a misconception that gay people inflate the numbers that are LGBT. I tried to kindly correct your misconception. Now, you make open allegations of bullying and manipulation of numbers or even lying about them by the LGBT activists. If you are going to make allegations, please provide a study, a statement, a press release, or ANY other information from an LGBT organization, news source, or blogger supporting your allegation that LGBT people inflate reports of their own population. Find me ONE LGBT source saying the numbers of LGBT people in the population is 25%. Having an innocent misconception is one thing. But once corrected, a misconception then becomes a lie.
C&H correctly points out, certain areas have higher percentages and others have lower percentages. But even major “gay” cities like San Francisco is not close to 25% LGBT. You have to go to small towns like West Hollywood, Wilton Manors, or Provincetown to get to those numbers. Here is one blog that looks at the actual data: https://www.wehoville.com/2013/04/15/when-it-comes-to-size-how-does-gay-weho-really-measure-up/
I reject the misconception accusation, therefore no need for YBF’s correction.
In 1989 Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen authored After the Ball: How America Will Conquer Its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90s.
Kirk was a psychiatrist .and Madsen a Harvard-graduated expert in social marketing. This book provided the blueprint for massive manipulation at all levels. Was it prophetic? No, just a tragic guidebook for American to slide into evil.
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Despite the US Supreme Court Ruling stating that there must be a Direct Count and Not Statistical Creations (including Over-Counts) – When Census 2010 fell in to the hands of the ObamAcorns in 2009 it changed from a Neutral Non-Partisan (albeit rather inefficient) – Duty – Directly spelled out by the US Constitution.
To Prizes for ‘Winning the Census’; like the reallocation of Legislative Seats from Congress down to the local level, depending on how the numbers fall out… Which is why it has been considered so vital to the whole Nation to have a Fair and Transparent Census.
The minions of POTUS ‘Down Low’ Soetoro immediately seized control as both a Pork Prize – hiring now unemployed campaign workers and vendors as “Partners” who do no actual Census Work, but are paid well to explain its importance to ‘the community’.
As with the IRS, DOJ (Disciples of Judas) and other ‘neutral government agencies’ of Abomination – both internal purges and external targeting of the Politically Un-Good were widespread, almost as widespread as the cover up of how the Census was being Subverted by the Abominations fierce Gaystapo Thought Police.
One Census email I saw openly discussed “Tweaking the Tabulation Software” to ‘Inferentially Count’ SSAD Couples, using highly questionable means. After doing so the insiders decided they had Overstated the Count by 100%, and ‘Statistically Adjusted’ it downward by 1/2; although such Violated the USSC Ruling & Current Federal Law of DOMA…. Small matters for those seeking greater Pandering.
First of all let’s put this subject in its proper perspective: the LGBT lifestyle is a matter of a behavioral choice, it is not a matter of genetics, it is a matter of Satan out to reap souls eternally for hell. People have a choice to love and accept God’s rules, or reject His rules, those rules passed down from Moses and Holy Mother the Church as Christ Himself taught her. St. Paul wrote it all very clearly in his Epistle to the Romans Chapter 1 verses 26 to 32. Oh by the way, make sure you read it from a real Roman Catholic Bible who is the sole author of the Holy Bible. Do not accept Protestant misinterpretations of the Bible, especially not the Queen James version we hear is in the making!
Second, in order to achieve wide mankind acceptance into their LGBT lifestyle, the LGBT members have been working long and hard on many fronts to confront the naive and be accepted. Exaggerated percentage of the population numbers serve this purpose. Some have risen to high levels in not just our own, but also other nations governments and are pushing their agendas down our throats and defying God! They have pushed hard and elevated those who resist to hate-crime status so good, common, heterosexual people are afraid to speak out. The LGBT community like the Nazis and Communists have infiltrated our public school system for indoctrinating our youth into accepting the sinful LGBT lifestyle.
My students in my Catholic school religion class will learn that all three “lifestyles” mentioned in your last sentence are mortal sins that cast into Hell.
Tom,
You are obviously not teaching in a liberal Diocese or Archdiocese, otherwise you would have been crucified long ago.
God bless you and I am sure HE does!
May God have mercy on an amoral Amerika and His Church!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher,
Kenneth,
Your response to Tom is probably correct. I was eased out for standing up to a principal who didn’t like classrooms being “too Catholic” and having religion as the prime subject we were to teach. The Local Mistake of a catholic University (Jesuit, of course) has ruined real Catholic education.
Kenneth Fisher—- yours in their heart.
Tom ~ Do I understand correctly that you equate the LGBT community with the Nazis and Communists? Sorry if I misunderstood.
To the extent that they defy God in the name of false and wicked ideas and behaviors and doggedly persecute those who reject them – yes. No, the “gay rights” movement has not drawn blood- yet.
Of course you understand that Nazis killed at least 11 million innocent people, including 6 million innocent jews, and millions of innocent gypsies, gay people, and disabled individuals? How many people have gay people killed?
The Communists, in their Gulags and Chinese camps also killed and tortured millions, including tens or hundreds of thousands of gay people. How many people have the gays tortured and murdered?
I thought you were pro life? I guess I was wrong.
Tom …As you may know, most of what blood has been shed in the culture war has been by gay people attacked by homophobes. Please don’t teach your students to hate or fear us. They need to learn the whole of the Church teaching about homosexuality including what CCC 2358 says about respect and avoiding any sign of unjust discrimination.
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Thank you Harvey for what you posted. God bless you gentlemen. Keep up the good fight.
Harvey, what is the LGBT lifestyle? Please define your terms so we can decide whether to agree or disagree. If being gay is what you mean by “the homosexual lifestyle”, we don’t know why people are gay. There is some strong evidence that it is indeed gay. But clearly, it is not a “chosen” thing, as you purport. If you have other evidence, or another definition, please present it.
Anonymous , the homosexual lifestyle is a lifestyle which includes sexual activity with someone of the same sex.
It is not merely Same Sex Attraction. SSA is a temptation, and has nothing to do with lifestyle. People can choose not to act on temptations.
People do choose whether or not to have sexual activity and with whom
– so don’t play games.
The homosexual lifestyle (having sex with someone of the same sex) is a choice.
Anonymous, it is disrespectful and insulting for you to imply that people with same sex attraction (SSA) are nothing but a bunch of animals who can not control themselves.
People are responsible for their own actions; and clearly people can control their own actions.
Our behavior is a choice.
Therefore homosexual acts are a choice.
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Wardell B. Pomeroy is the author of “Boys and Sex” and Girls and Sex.” These are two so-called “children’s” books that are recommended by the American Library Association.
Pomeroy is co-author, with Alfred C. Kinsey, of “Sexual Behavior in the Human Male.” In this book, Kinsey and Pomeroy describe their experimentation with the sexual responses of babies and children. It is shocking to learn how these scientist experimented on young children.
(The same reaction is generated when we learned that our government sponsored radiation experimentation on African Americans.) Science absent of ethics is frightening:
Table 34. Examples of multiple orgasms in pre-adolescent males. Some instances of higher frequencies. (*Junk Science from Pederast Rapists – When the Boys cried in pain it was marked down as ‘orgasm’)
In table 34 (page 180), these scientists reveal, what many of us to be, criminal experimentation on 28 babies and children. This was done in the name of science.
When one reads table 34 and realizes that a five month old baby was sexually stimulated to orgasms and a four year old child was sexually stimulated to multiple orgasms, a moral person knows that child sexual abuse, in the name of science, was perpetrated.
https://cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/san-francisco-s-gay-icon-larry-brinkin-guilty-felony-child-porn”
CDC: 2% of population are men who have sex with men
9/24/13 BY ADMIN
The following comes from a Sept. 20 story on CNS News.
In the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report released on Friday, the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that only about 2 percent of the U.S. population are men who have sex with men.
The CDC made the assertion in a new report indicating that 80 percent of all new HIV infections in 2010 were of men and that 78 percent of those were among men who have sex with men (MSM).
“MSM represent approximately 2 percent of the U.S. population,” said the report.
In stating this, the report cited an analytical report published last year by CDC researchers. That report–“Estimating the Population Size of Men Who Have Sex With Men in the United States to Obtain HIV and Syphilis Rates“–refuted the claim made by 20th-century sex researcher Alfred Kinsey that about 1 out of 10 American males are men who have sex with men.
“Research by Kinsey and his colleagues led to the notion that approximately 10 percent of U.S. men are gay or bisexual,” wrote the CDC researchers. “Later reviews lowered this estimate by approximately half…
“Using meta-analysis with behavorial data from population-based surveys, we found that MSM = 4,791,626 men who have sex with men that the CDC estimated were in the United States in 2008 equal to about 1.57% of the population.
That’s right. Sodomites make up only 2% of the population, and yet they make up 33% of all child sex abusers. That’s what makes them so dangerous to our children.
http://www.tinyurl.com/HomoAbusers
It works like this: only 2% of the population are sodomites; the media wants to cover up the fact that sodomites comprise 33% of child sex abusers and thus pose extreme danger to children; so the media spends 25% of its time covering sodomites, mostly celebrity homos; this extensive media coverage causes the population to believe sodomites are about 25% of the population; this leads the population to believe sodomites are not dangerous; this leads to sodomites being allowed in schools, boys scouts, etc., where they have easy access to children.
The Media is Also Covering Up the effects of Mandatory Gaystapo Pandering – producing Abominations with Real Military Power:
Military Losing War against Sexual Assault
(Family Research Council – FRC.org)
President Obama may have admitted that sexual assault is a serious problem in the military — but what he hasn’t conceded are that his own policies have helped create it. For the past few years, the Pentagon has downplayed the effects of open homosexuality sexuality and the addition of women on the front lines.
But it will have a tough time doing that now with the rate of male-on-male assault at its highest levels. A stunning 3,840 military men were raped last year, headlines screamed.
While outgoing Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel insists the military had made “real progress” on the problem, the latest numbers certainly don’t bear that out. The total number of sexual assaults (at least the known cases) actually climbed by another eight percent — a statistic the administration pins on better reporting, not an actual spike in abuse.
Either way, the message is clear: there has been a significant change in military culture, and reversing those trends will be nearly impossible with the radical sexualization of our forces.
“Almost 6,000 victims reported a sexual assault in 2014, up from 5,500 last year, according to the report… only 1 in 10 victims reported a sexual crime in 2012, compared to 1 in 4 this year.”
The real scoop is that in Rand Corporation’s survey “more than half of the victims are men.”
“A stunning 3,840 military men were raped last year”
Wait till the sodomites get “equal rights” to others’ children.
YFC, You defended homosexuality questioning “How many people have gay people killed? and How many people have the gays tortured and murdered?”
Answer: Apparently you didn’t understand the connection. It is not the evil treatment the Nazis and Communists did to their victims that I compared to the LGBT sinners, but rather the same brain-washing techniques the Nazis and Communists used to influence and takeover their societies, with the evil strategy of going after the naive youth to gain acceptance of their sinful LGBT lifestyles for the benefit of their long-term quest to have their evil way.
But in direct answer to your questions, it is hard to say: “Does anyone keep world records on the numbers of LGBT persons having homosexual relations with many partners and infecting them with HIV-AIDS? The ultimate consequence of having HIV-AIDS is death is it not? If so, those world records are where you will find your answer. Please look it up and give us the source for the rest of us, maybe you can write us a book report? We don’t need to defend our position, but you need to defend yours as the violator trying to justify why it is acceptable to defy and offend God.
Anomynous, I won’t play your foolish games. However your comments ” If being gay is what you mean by “the homosexual lifestyle”, we don’t know why people are gay. There is some strong evidence that it is indeed gay.
Anomynous, I won’t play your foolish games. However your comments ” If being gay is what you mean by “the homosexual lifestyle”, we don’t know why people are gay. There is some strong evidence that it is indeed gay. But clearly, it is not a “chosen” thing, as you purport. If you have other evidence, or another definition, please present it.”
Your response is incredibly foolish. Any one daring to say that the LGBT lifestyle is based on genetics/DNA and calls themselves christian, are not running on all cylinders as mechanics say. Blaming their sinful lifestyle (as proven by St Paul’s Epistle to the Romans Chapter 1 vs 27-32 in the Roman Catholic Douay-Rheims Holly Bible) which is offensive to God, onto God! makes NO common sense! God does not create evil. Evil creates evil. The devil creates evil counter to God’s Holy Will and Laws (Commandments and scripture teachings) to destroy our salvation. From a philosophers open-minded point of view, why would God create something He detests? i.e. why would God want to offend Himself? If you hated baking cakes bitterly, would you bake cakes? I wouldn’t! So with a little common sense, and seeing how the devil works in this world and studying Roman Catholic teaching, we see how evil creates evil and that the devil leads souls astray to sin to anger and offend God which leads them into the eternal fires of hell, unless of course those souls have a a contrite heart.