The following comes from a June 5 email from Bill May of Catholics for the Common Good.
California Bill AB460, which would prohibit insurance companies from denying infertility coverage to lesbians and the elderly, has passed the State Assembly and has just been scheduled to be heard by the State Senate Health Committee on June 12, 2013….
Rather than focusing on whether lesbians and the elderly should have insurance coverage for “artificial reproductive technology” (using donated sperm and/or eggs), we are using the opportunity to oppose the bill because it expands an already unjust practice – creating children with the intention of depriving them of a fundamental human right to know and be cared for by their mother and father.
When I testified before the Assembly Health Committee on this bill, I looked the committee members in the eye and asked who has a right to deprive a child in that way? “Who has a right to another person? Does anyone have a right to you?”
There was noticeable discomfort from a committee that typically just ignores our testimony. Even though they had the votes to pass the bill, a majority of the Democrats on the committee felt compelled to defend their position and speak in support of the bill with claims about lesbians’ rights to have children. One member, Wesley Chesbro, sought to make this practice analogous to adoption, an absurd claim, and said having a child with a sperm donor was actually an “act of love” because of the difficulty and expense. Unfortunately, the Republicans on the committee remained silent.
What about the child? I told the committee that sperm donor children are coming of age and are starting to speak out about confusion over their identity, feelings of abandonment, and the recognition they have been treated as commodities. At the request of Alana Newman, a sperm donor child, and founder of Anonymousus.org, I submitted her compelling testimony as a representative of tens of thousands of children experiencing similar feeling after having had their rights violated.
Members of the legislature have never heard these kinds of arguments before. Most are used to thinking about marriage and family from the position of the adults. Arguments from the perspective of the child are much more difficult to ignore…. Can I count on you?
- Write to your state senator immediately. If you live in the district of one of the Committee on Health members listed below, it is all the more important to ask them to vote no on AB 460. Ask them to not expand the practice of creating children with sperm and/ or egg donors, which intentionally deprives them of the right to know and be cared for by their mother or father or both. See the list of committee members below.
- If you possibly can, come to the hearing in Sacramento on Wednesday, June 12. We need to pack the hearing room to let the committee members and the media know that you care. After I testify, every person attending will be able to state their name, where they are from and their opposition to the bill. We need your support. The hearing will be at 1:30PM, in Room 4203 of the State Capitol Building.
Please pray for that enough people respond to this email and forward it to friends so that we can have a real impact at the hearing on June 12. Please pray that Senators’ consciences will be moved by the injustice of creating children through sperm or egg donation and momentum builds for ending this practice.
For the Common Good,
President, Catholics for the Common Good
415 651 4171
415 738 0421 (Fax)
Senate Committee on Health
Senator Ed Hernandez (Chair): West Covina
Contact Senator Ed Hernandez
Phone: (916) 651-4024
Fax: (916) 445-0485
Senator Joel Anderson (Vice Chair): El Cajon & Temecula
Contact Senator Joel Anderson
Phone: (916) 651-4036
Fax: (916) 447-9008
Senator Jim Beall: Campbell
Contact Senator Jim Beall
Phone: (916) 651-4015
Fax: (916) 323-4529
Senator Kevin de León: Los Angeles
Contact Senator Kevin de León
Tel: (916) 651-4022
Senator Mark DeSaulnier: Wallnut Creek & Antioch
Contact Senator Mark DeSaulnier
Phone: (916) 651-4007
Fax: (916) 445-2527
Senator Bill Monning: Monterey, San Luis Obispo, Santa Clara & Santa Cruz
Contact Senator Bill Monning
Phone: (916) 651-4017
Fax: (916) 445-8081
Senator Jim Nielsen: Roseville, Chico & Crescent
Contact Senator Jim Nielsen
Phone: (916) 651-4004
Fax: (916) 445-7750
Senator Fran Pavley: Calabasas
Contact Senator Fran Pavley
Phone: (916) 651-4027
Fax: (818) 876-0802
Senator Lois Wolk: Vacaville, Napa-Sonoma & Vallejo
Contact Senator Lois Wolk
Phone: (916) 651-4003
Fax: (916) 323-2304
Be sure to click the “compelling testimony” link.
When are they going to pass a bill that will prohibit insurance companies from denying ovarian cancer coverage to heterosexual men?
That is probably next on their insane agendas, Juergensen, considering the way some politicians reason, if one can call it “reason”.
Please, please don’t give those madmen and women any new ideas!
Viva Cristo Rey!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Just read the article Infertility Coverage, Part 2 on this website, and my post under it also. This is child slave trafficking and should be outlawed completely.
Many Catholic women practice IVF, but this is swept under the rug. It’s not just lesbians.
Well, that is still wrong, especially since any embryos not used are frozen or killed, but at least the children from the procedure in that case know who their mother and father is. I am not excusing it though.
These kids have problems too. They were conceive in a way that the Church says should not be done. They have a lot of issues on whether they should even exist.
They nevertheless have/are souls, Anonymous. The problem is having loving parents, mother and father.
IT IS A MORTAL SIN CAPABLE OF EARNING ETERNAL DAMNATION EITHER WAY!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
I heard on NPR that, for women, egg harvesting is a difficult procedure. Thus, even for ‘atheists’ or those who have no moral objections to such high-tech “let’s engineer a child” programs, it should be avoided on a merely medical basis.
One again: adopt, adopt, adopt!
Kids on this planet need good homes!
Why pay thousands of dollars for complicated, unnatural procedures just so you can say, “this is ‘really’ my kid?”
California legislators think they are god. They think they own us, so lesbians being able to buy and own children is perfectly normal to them.
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
If several women in the same region receive sperm from an unnamed donor, it’s possible that in the future their offspring will meet and marry. Unwittingly, they may be marrying a half-brother or half-sister. Think of the possibilities of birth defects and genetically-passed diseases. Don’t mess with mother nature.
Who do you want to be? Do you want to be the living word of God? Or you want to be the walking dead? The activists that promote an evil culture are the walking dead, they live richly and heavy on their own righteousness, they gain many of today’s secular comforts and goods for their own benefit, they may be successful here on earth but they forget that it is only temporary. Some even live the lie that they are doing God’s work but God see’s what is really deep within them, it is evil pride. God is the God of the living not the walking dead amongst us. But don’t despair because even the walking dead can be cured, our prayers done in love in Christ, can cure, can heal. Conversions and miracles do happen because we honor and worship a merciful and loving God!
Abeca, : )
Good to see your name dear sister in Christ! k asked us to pray for you. I hope you are doing better.
Thanks Catherine. Well still hanging in there. May have to forgo a small surgery soon but we will see what the Lord tells me to do. God owns life and he makes me alive in Him…so my owner, my love and my everything decides. I can’t tell you it;s not scary at times, the pain can be excruciating but when there is a break, God can only make us stronger.
When I accepted Christ as my Lord and savior at a very young age, I didn’t understand what that meant until it was when I suffered more that made me realize how helpless and dependent of Him I was. Well enuff said…thank you all for your prayers. Thanks k. K to answer your question from another thread, no it is not a hysterectomy. It is my genetics issue that runs in my family. I am still young and fertile but had several high risk pregnancies but this is not about pregnancies either, they tested me to make sure I wasn’t pregnant because it could put me in danger as well. But other than that….I’m well today. Thank you God bless you : )
I still have the relics of “the Seven Blessed Martyrs of Thailand”. Call me at 714-491-2284 if you would like to borrow them.
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher
Mr Fisher thank you. You are a good gentleman. I don’t know if I can pick them up since I am in San Diego but please pray for me and hold them in your hands as you pray for me. You have a big heart, God hears you. God is always with us. I should be fine since it seems like it’s a common thing but I am grateful that the hospital took good care of me and helped ease the pain too. : )
I am doing better but I still have to decide if I will choose a simple surgery, but still to me, well kinda scary but it’s my faith that will help me just deal with it. Praise God they put you to sleep, I just pray to be in good hands and heal well after it. Whew….
I know that you will offer your sufferings united with the sufferings of Jesus and that has infinite value. I continue to pray for your restoration to health, if it is God’s will. It must be hard on your children and husband (and your mother is still with you?) to see you suffer so much. I know the Lord will guide you and that you will obey Him.
Glad you are well today, Abeca Christian. God bless you.
Were you ill Abeca? I did not read about it, but I did notice your absence. You have my prayers for His help.
Anony thank you for having a heart, even though we bump heads from time to time, I really appreciate your heart for being big and for having a compassionate heart to include me in your prayers. Everyone here are always in my prayers no matter what side we are on or if we disagree or agree….It’s nice that we can be honest with each other.
God’s graces be with you and everyone here and who need it the most.
That Anonymous was me, Anne T.
Thank you Ann T glad you clarified. God bless you. I thought you were another Anony. All this anony business can cause much confusion. Well in this case, you and I don’t bump heads sorry thought you were someone else.
There are many of us and our numbers are increasing. I am glad to see you posting today, Abeca Christian. Hope this is a good day for you. Keeping you in prayer.
It is kind of like the Abbott and Costelo routine of “Whose on first, Whats on second and Idontknow’s on third. I was posting from a laptop, and my name was not already in there.
This is part of a Pogrom of MISANDRY – the Separatist / Neo-Exterminationist Hatred of Men & Boys, Masculinity and Normal Heterosexuality.
The attempt to create ‘Fatherless Chidren’ is not about absent or deadbeat dads – but the Lie that children have No Father at all, even boys who inherit the Y-Chromosome of their Fathers Male Line.
The ‘reasoning’ of the twysted systerhood is that as a baby step Men will be legally eliminated from existence (in the eyes of the law), and then the final solution to the ‘male problem’ won’t be such a big step to follow up with.
Discrimination against Children & Heterosexuality.
By attempting to create a suspect class with rights superior to all others, based solely on their choice to perceive themselves as oriented towards engaging in homosex behaviors, Prop. 8 opponents display animus to both the rights of Children and Heterosexual Males.
Phenomenon such as the ‘Donor – Sibling’ registry (www.donorsiblingregistry.com) show the problems (ranging from search for identity to potential incest…) resulting from ‘anonymous donors’ and the legal elimination of male parents from appearing as real persons on birth certificates.
Children deserve to know who their natural biological parents are, and the attack on Prop. 8 is a deliberate roadblock to thwart this normal and healthy aspiration.
This bias against equal protection for heterosexuality was demonstrated in the set of three cases foundational to the California Supreme Court’s marriage / procreation jurisprudence prior to Prop. 8, published together on August 22, 2005: (K.M., v. E.G.: S125643 / Elisa B. v. Superior Court; S125912 / Kristine H. v. Lisa R.: S126945).
Because Prop. 8 can now be argued to have invalidated attempts to Disfavor Heterosexuality in the law, and reaffirmed the equal protection rights of heterosexual males as opposed to ‘donors’, the misandry lobby is targeting it.
Indeed, even California Justice Werdegar in her dissent touched on one aspect of such violations of equal protection when she said:
“Although the majority denies that its rule depends on sexual orientation the opinion speaks for itself; The majority has chosen to use the term lesbian no less than six times in articulating its holding. Moreover, the majority prevents future courts from applying its holding automatically to persons other than lesbians. I see no rational basis, and the majority articulates none for permitting the enforceability of an ovum donation agreement to depend on the sexual orientation of the parties. Indeed, lacking a rational basis, the rule may well violate equal protection.” K.M., v. E.G.; Werdegar Dissenting at 6.
Even more telling of the attempt to instill misandry in to the law is the bizarre ruling in favor of holding males who engage in heterosexual behaviors to a different standard than those who Intentionally ‘donate’ Sperm at what are commonly referred to as ‘sperm banks (Aka – ‘dead beat dad’ factories):
“Usually, whether there is evidence of a parent and child relationship under the UPA does not depend upon the intent of the parent. For example, a man who engages in sexual intercourse with a woman who assures him, falsely, that she is incapable of conceiving children is the father of a resulting child, despite his lack of intent to become a father.” Id. at 4-5
Because it can be argued that Prop. 8 makes it clear that marriage is between a Man (XY) and a Woman (XX), all such ersatz attempts to create ‘fatherless’ children as a matter of law may now be open to challenge.
This includes such bizarre double standards that say amongst other things, that fraternal twin brothers can have different paternity.
Consider the case of a woman who uses a dead beat dad factory / ‘sperm bank’ to conceive one male (XY) son, and then later engages in heterosexual intercourse with the same man (the prior ‘anonymous’ donor), and conceives another male (XY) son – his fraternal twin brother.
The First Boy (who Inherited His Father’s Y Chromosome via intentional ‘donation’) is held to have No Legal Father – not an absent one or a deadbeat, but no legally existent male parent, despite the scientific evidence of his own genes – because the court says the Male who ‘donated’ had No Intent to Procreate…
His twin brother (exact same Y Chromosome), because he was conceived by heterosexual intercourse, does have a Father recognized by law (even if the Mother claimed to be infertile or conception was unintentional), and that Man can be sent to prison for failure to pay support for this Son only, based on scientific proof of parentage from the same Y Chromosome.
Prop. 8 threatens to invalidate such insanely contradictory anti-scientific misandry, which is based on a hatred of normal heterosexual intercourse and not ‘love’ for those of the same sex, and which is a central factor behind the attack on Prop. 8.
Consider the implications of CA Senate Bill #115 (Sen. Hill – D) – Which seeks to overturn a Presumption of Male Parentage and make it open to challenge based on DNA Evidence (amongst other challenges) – In order to Favor Dyke Misandrists.
Quite simple actually – Presumptions that Men who hold out as Being a Father (even under the ‘gender neutral’ provisions of the UPA – Uniform Parenting Act), can be Challenged – by those twysted systers of the Gaystapo whose orientation is simply Hatred of Men.
What could be more fair – in this Age of Abomination.
SENATE BILLNo. 115 Introduced by Senator Hill
An act to amend Section 7630 of the Family Code, relating to parent and child relationship…
“… Any interested party may bring an action at any time for the purpose of determining the existence or nonexistence of the father and child relationship presumed under subdivision (f) of Section 257611.
LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL’S DIGEST
SB 115, as amended, Hill. Parent and child relationship.
Existing law, the Uniform Parentage Act, sets forth the circumstances under which a man may be presumed to be the natural father of a child. Under existing law, those circumstances include if he receives the child into his home and openly holds out the child as his natural child and if the child is in utero after the father’s death and specified conditions applicable with respect to determining rights to the property to be distributed upon the death of the decedent are satisfied. Existing law authorizes any interested party to bring an action at any time for the purpose of determining the existence or nonexistence of the father and child relationship that is presumed under those circumstances.
The Uniform Parentage Act also provides that the donor of semen provided to a licensed physician and surgeon or to a licensed sperm bank for use in artificial insemination or in vitro fertilization of a woman other than the donor’s wife is treated in law as if he were not the natural father of a child thereby conceived, unless otherwise agreed to in a writing signed by the donor and the woman prior to the conception of the child.
This bill would instead provide that notwithstanding the treatment in law of the sperm donor under thosebegin delete circumstanceend deletebegin insert circumstancesend insert, any interested party may bring an action at any time for the purpose of determining thebegin delete existence or nonexistence of the father and child relationship presumed under the previously described circumstancesend deletebegin insert parentage of a man presumed to be the father because he receives the child into his home and openly holds out the child as his natural childend insert.