Name of Church Holy Redeemer Church
Address 17010 Northeast 9th Street, Vancouver, WA 98684-6419
Phone number (360) 885-7780
Website www.holyredeemervanc.org
Mass times Saturday vigil 5:30 p.m.; Sunday 7:30, 9, 11:30 a.m. Tuesday, 6 p.m. Wednesday – Friday, 7:30 a.m., Saturday, 8:30 a.m.
Confessions Saturdays, 4-5 p.m.
Names of priests Father Thomas Nathe, pastor. Father Nathe is the only priest at the parish—most in the area only have a single priest—he is a pious, faithful priest. Visit the parish website and listen to his homilies.
School No.
Special parish groups and activities Eucharistic adoration Wednesdays, 8 a.m. – 7 p.m.; Thursday night Bible study; young adult group; American Heritage Girls; Empty Nesters; Pilgrim Lady Home Visitation; That Man is You men’s group.
Music Choirs at each Mass, accompanied by organ and piano.
Acoustics The sound system is good; there are listening devices for the hard of hearing.
Fellow parishioners English-speaking community of 850 families, mostly from the Vancouver, Washington area. This is the southern end of the state, across the Columbia River from Portland, Oregon.
Parking Park on the lot or on the street.
Additional observations Holy Redeemer is a new parish, established in 2000. Mass was held in a nearby mall until the church was completed in 2009. Its decoration is a work in progress. There are four shrines, all of which now have statues. The church has some unique statues, such as one of Mother Teresa and John Paul II, and another of St. Joseph with the boy Jesus teaching him carpentry and holding a model of the church. Flooring has recently been added—previously it was a concrete floor—and stained glass windows are being added.
Why? No TLM. The altar looks like it was designed by “interpreters” of Vatican II that have given us such great confusion in the Church. At least there are no profusion of special language Masses. Protestants would be very happy in this place, as it does not look much like a Catholic Church at all. Big Clue to the Pastor’s mindset: the labelling, incorrectly, of “Extraordinary Ministers of the Holy Eucharist” as “Ministers of Communion” and “Eucharistic ministers” and “liturgical ministers”. Folks — none of this is accurate, although it is stated as such to (wrongly) give a sense of a “shared priesthood”. There is even direction to “liturgical ministers” to act as an example to the congregation (regarding how they pray, sing, their posture and the like). Why? It is because, as “liturgical ministers” they are to be a regular part of the Mass. Here is a taste: “They should be attentive to the flow of the liturgy, which recognizes their ministry as fitting integrally into a whole.” Wow — “their ministry . . . fitting integrally into the whole”. Of course, this is Liberal nonsense and the Church provides no such (legitimate) role for the laity. The “ministers” have no permanent role and are only used in “extraordinary” circumstances. Take a look at Canon 230.3, “When the need of the Church warrants it and ministers are lacking [you can use laity to help give out communion].” What is said at this Church is dangerous, and Protestant in nature; the laity have no “permanent” or “continuous” role in the Catholic Church as “ministers”.
Perhaps there is no one in the parish who wants the TLM. It happens that way with great frequency, you know.
” It happens that way with great frequency, you know.” = Emma represents the same few posters who just happen to strategically drop in with different new names in order to show their disdain for those who uphold “all” Church teaching. It happens that way with great frequency, you know. Speaking of great frequency, there is a hidden reason why people do not ask for the TLM. People such as “Emma” suppressed it with such great fury and such great frequency for years and many do not even realize that it exists and should be available. Perhaps Auntie “Emma” still thinks that everyone just fell off of the turnip truck too.
Yes, indeed, Catherine. And now the new tack is to brand the TLM and those who support it as ‘divisive’. And since all division now comes from the Devil – ahem – we must avoid division at all costs, even the cost of not transmitting the Faith, whole and entire.
Where is the Traditional Latin Mass??????
Emma may be correct. When enough parishioners demand, and are willing to support a TLM, they will have one. They don’t need the Bishop’s permission. The local Pastor can just start doing it. Well, maybe, if he can read Latin, knows the “red” and has a new set of vestments. Why not take a parish survey to determine demand for a new TLM?