Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:05 AM By charlio
God is not mocked.
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 1:41 AM By SANDY
If the Archbishop of SFO and Catholic Charities spoke and appeared together with politicans (local or otherwise) at a Catholic Church, San Francisco’s Cathedral of St. Mary of the Assumption, who support homosexual acts and/or abortion – – – commit a grave SCANDAL. It will lead those Catholics weak in their Faith to assume that homosexual acts and abortion are secondary to other political action, and that its ok to vote for immoral politicians. Someone who is familiar with this needs to report it to the Vatican with a copy to the US Papal Nuncio. The Archbishop needs to publically reject all immoral politicians speaking at any Catholic Church in his Diocese. He must forbid the promotion of immoral politicians at any of this Churches. Do not donate any money to SFO Catholic Charities of the Diocese until and unless this mess is corrected.
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:08 AM By 4unborn
“Archbishop, Ammiano Share Stage,” This is an example of what Cardinal Ratzinger referred to as “filth” inside the Catholic Church.
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:17 AM By JLS
Interfaith service, with those who believe in Jesus, and those who believe in the sin that Jesus destroyed two cities over. Will we be seeing some bishop at the Folsom Street Faire demonstrating how St Peter was in a jail and an angel of God opened the door and freed him?
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:30 AM By JMJ
I don’t know a thing about Secure Communities or about AB 1081, but, I do know that with OBAMANISM being forced on us, there is NOT one community that is safe. Where was the Bishop and Cardinal, when this horrible event took place inside a Catholic Church or is it even Catholic? We do need to pray for Amniano and “judge” Kleinfield (and others such as them) as their souls are in great danger of spending eternity in hell. Is is no wonder why you can’t find a lawyer in Heaven? +JMJ+
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:50 AM By Curt Flood
In this darkness we have the hope inspired by the presence of the Society of Jesus in San Francisco. With parishes, a high school, and a university these spokesmen for the truth of Chuch teaching are well-positioned to influence the union of minds and hearts among Catholics and beyond toward being leaven in the dough in a town noted for its bread.
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 7:13 AM By AA
So now Pope Benedict XVI will act quickly against this public, national media reported, heretical action of the Bishop, right? Anathema anyone?
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 7:24 AM By JOHN
Exactly WHO in the Archdiocese invited Ammiano? That’s the person who ought to be fired for compromising the Archbishop at his own Cathedral! Interfaith service? No. Such “interfaith services” are always organized by the Leftists who use the Catholic church and then trash the Faith. Abp Niederauaer is either senile or incompetent or corrupt.
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 7:35 AM By Anna M
Could it have been George Wesolek who invited Ammiano?
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 7:46 AM By Jean
Wow….sounds like San Francisco had the first chance to stop this immoral and decadent march across our nation. Shame on your city.
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:53 AM By Laurette Elsberry
Shall we give the Archbishop a pass on this one by figuring he could use a variation of the Pelosi excuse: “Well, the topic of sodomy, etc., never came up in our conversation.”?
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:32 AM By Catherine
What else needs to be said or done regarding our shepherds allowing these continued attacks on the Catholic Church? How about the reminder….”Rome knows how bad it is in the United States. Rome is waiting for the laity to speak up.” Thank you to our faithful priests who speak up. Thank you to Juergensen, Ken Fisher, Canisius, JLS, Abeca, MIKE, JOHN, Larry and others who also speak up. Thank you for not being lukewarm.
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:15 AM By Abeca Christian
There will always be some weak leaders amongst us. Not all will set a good example or use logic. This sort of news, only breaks my heart and make me wonder “why”, what good is this archbishop doing by permitting such scandal? I pray for justice be served and God grant us who are scandalized by this, empowerment and bring accountability to the shepherds that are not obeying and honoring Jesus!
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:34 AM By Maryanne Leonard
I am afraid that St. Mary’s has seen much more horrifying things than this, such as what happened to me by one of their a priests on St. Mary’s grounds in 1962. I think of that place as a place where Satan has prevailed in many secret ways for at least 50 years that I know of profoundly personally. I wish I had the courage to stop carrying their secrets in my heart, but I fear that revealing what happened to me there would harm the Catholic Church itself, a concept that grieves me more than my own personal burden. We must pray most sincerely for everyone associated with St. Mary’s and ask specifically for healing of the priests and hierarchy associated there. Please join me in that prayer.
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:51 AM By k
“What else needs to be said or done regarding our shepherds allowing these continued attacks on the Catholic Church?” Our shepherds? Your shepherd! It would not happen where I live! A whole lot needs to be done! How about emailing the archbishop and asking him “What were you thinking?”
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:19 PM By k
Maryanne Leonard, the bishops have asked you to inform them of what happened. It will not harm the church. It is like lancing a wound. It may cause some momentary pain but the poison can’t get out unless you do it. May God give you strength and grace in this season of penance. Go, serve God!
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:35 PM By Catherine
Yes, Maryanne and k, Where grace abounds, you can be sure that ruses also abound! They abound clearly for those who have eyes to see. I also now see the light!
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:36 PM By k
The Archdiocese has a victims assistance co-ordinatior at 415-614-5506. If you are not ready for that, there is a phone number that is answered by other survivors of priest abuse as a support line 415-614-5503. I am sorry for what happened to you. You can help make sure that it does not happen again. God love you. I know it is very scary. I know that it is the hardest thing that you will ever do. Just call and tell them you are out there. You don’t have to give all the details. There are others who are waiting for you to make that call so that they can make their call.
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:51 PM By Loraine
I just can’t take it anymore. More depressing news about the archbishop of San Francisco. When is this madness (in the SF Diocese) going to stop? The fact that Ammiano was invited and allowed to speak at the cathedral is shocking. I would like to invite everyone to view the You Tube videos of the Hunky Jesus contest. There has been worse displays at these events than what is mentioned in the above article. The winner of the Hunky Jesus contest 2011 was a purely demonic act. I would venture to say that if Ammiano had voted to allow the SPI to have a Hunky Muhammad contest, we wouldn’t even be discussing this because first of all it would have never happended, secondly, if it did happen there would have been extreme violence and either way the bishop of SF probably would have issued a public statement in defense of Islam and our Muslim brothers and sisters. Oh, this just burns me up, I don’t even know what else to say.
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 1:01 PM By Carol
Thankyou for this beautiful paper. The comments of the good people of Our truly awesome Catholic faith helps us carry our own crosses. Other brothers and sister are carrying such heavier crosses. Hearts pained by such abuse around us. It is so good to share and pray for our family and those in error. Please pray for our mentally handicaped son 37yrs. who is missing since Oct. 1,2011. Thankyou and God Bless!
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 1:02 PM By Jimmy Mac
Yea verily, truly the sky is falling.
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 1:08 PM By Doc Mugwump
Dear Editor of Cal Catholic – would you please try to get a statement/interview with the Archbishop on a) why this event was held at St. Mary’s when it allowed such anti-Catholic speakers a platform and 2) Why he would share the sanctuary/platform with this speaker? These are two very clear-cut simple questions that really NEED to be addressed and not evaded by the Archbishop himself personally. This type of event signifies a real break from what the Holy Father is asking of our bishops in the US and elsewhere. We need accountability. Please do a follow-up article. Thank you!
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 2:41 PM By Loraine
I second Doc Mugwump’s request. Great idea!
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:15 PM By k
Carol, I will pray for your son. God bless you.
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:40 PM By Maryanne Leonard
k, are you saying the bishops have asked you to have me contact them? My heart is pounding so fast I can’t quite get what you are saying. Catherine, what do you mean about where graces abound, ruses also abound? I’m sorry, my head is spinning and I can’t quite get your meaning.
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:41 PM By MAC
The madness in SFO will not stop until Catholics within the Diocese keep reporting mis-conduct to the Vatican with a copy to the US Papal Nuncio. Remember a Bishop was removed from office in Australia due to bad behavior as well – the people there kept reporting him without fail.
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:48 PM By Elizabeth
Everyone- Please pray for a new AB of San Francisco that will be orthodox, clean house and have NO connection with San Francisco or California !!!!
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:30 PM By Abeca Christian
good suggestions Doc Mugwump
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:36 PM By Clinton
Pray that the Archdiocese will choose to serve Our Lord and His Holy Catholic Church and renounce any association with Belial, ie the liberal left.
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:08 PM By Loraine
MAC, Various Catholic groups in the SF Diocese and outside the have reported and are reporting and yet no action is taken. There are video and photographic proof documenting the evil that has been allowed to proliferate within the Diocese and yet nothing is done.
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:41 PM By JLS
Maryanne, nothing you say will harm the Church. Obvious and I think you know, you were put under a gag order in 1962. Jesus: “Know the truth, and the truth shall set you free”. I would not recommend posting it, but seek a trustworthy group to discuss it with. Catholicism abounds in charitably hearted people, whose mission in life is good and helpful to those who have been harmed. You have to use your best discernment and not fret about it taking some time … could be one of your most rewarding journeys. Maybe look to some local volunteer pro-life groups.
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:55 PM By k
Maryanne Leonard, after the meeting in Dallas where the bishops made what is called the Dallas Charter, the head of the bishops who was Bishop Gregory asked that all people who had been abused come forward so that the Church could offer them help and that they could protect others. The phone numbers are from the website. If you are not ready yet to talk to the victims co-ordinator you can call the support line. Even if the priests who abused you are deceased, other victims may be waiting to see if anyone else has complained. Many victims believe they were the only one. The person I know who came forward found out there were 6 others who came forward after he did. But the investigators believe there were at least 45 other victims.
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 7:02 PM By k
Maryanne Leonard, one person I have heard of wrote everything out and then read the account when he met with the diocesan victims co-ordinator because he could not talk about it freely.
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 7:41 PM By MacDonald
Just did some research on this event…it was regarding immigration, not sex, drugs, or rock & roll. If someone outside the fold can help immigrants, that seems like a good thing to me, even if he is a bit, fat sinner. “They say, ‘Behold, a gluttonous man and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’ ” (Matthew 11:19)
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:35 PM By Linda Maria
This is a grave offense and a sacrilege! The Tues. Feb. 21st edition of the San Francisco Chronicle also contained a scandalous, heretical article on the recent Catholic Church/Obamacare conflict, written by retired San Francisco Archdiocese Catholic Charities’ Director, Brian Cahill– he ought to have been excommunicated years ago, along with Nancy Pelosi, and many others!! He is receiving his Church retirement salary and benefits, instead! Our Church leaders don’t seem to be very “Christian,” do they!!
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:12 PM By Maryanne Leonard
k, and everyone – thank you. I have been crying all afternoon and am so appreciative of your suggestions. It is, you are right, the hardest thing I have ever contemplated doing. Thank you for your support. I hadn’t thought of it as being good for the Church to be cleansed of this too.
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:54 PM By Abeca Christian
Maryanne Leonard JLS gave you good advice. Don’t post it here but pray and seek out someone or group in the church to help you through your pain. I am so sorry to hear, it must have been horrific and my heart hurts for what you have had to endure.
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:21 PM By k
Maryanne Leonard, I am sorry because I know it is hard. Praying for you.
Posted Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:38 PM By JLS
Maryanne, I have seen your unusual stress for weeks now, and have been waiting to see what might be the cause. As k says, there are indeed very good people who make their lives helping others. I spent years seeking them out. One tends to eventually arrive at those religious who are somewhat more remote from the daily grind than others, ie monastics or friars. These tend to be more focused on the interior than the diocesan clergy. You might call the Norbertines in Silverado … They are monks, there are lots of them, they are held in high regard, and provide great spiritual services. If you ask around, you will eventually find someone who can help.
Posted Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:27 AM By Kenneth M. Fisher
It is more and more obvious that Arch. Neiderauer has learned nothing from the Obama administration and his Democrats. Poor San Francisco! God bless, yours in Their Hearts, Kenneth M. Fisher
Posted Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:35 AM By Kenneth M. Fisher
JMJ, 6:30 AM, I would agree that Lawyers are scarce in Heaven but not absent. Have your ever heard of St. Thomas Aquina, St. Thomas More, etc. etc. I know many Lawyers who do a great deal of unnoticed pro-bono work, especially for the pro-life movement! I know some who have passed on to Eternity, and I believe their just reward. God bless, yours in Their Hearts, Kenneth M. Fisher
Posted Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:49 AM By Kenneth M. Fisher
Maryanne, As one who enjoys close association with many good Bishops, let me assure you that they would tell you to expose the filth. That is the only way the filth will be cleaned out of the Sanctuary. Perhaps this quote will help you to decide: “”We’ve Had Enough Of Exhortations To Be Silent! Cry Out With A Hundred Thousand Tongues. I See That The World Is Rotten Because Of Silence.” ~ St. Catherine of Siena Doctor of the Church God bless, yours in Their Hearts, Kenneth M. Fisher
Posted Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:49 AM By JLS
Maryanne, you should not be carrying the guilt of others on your back; let Jesus do that.
Posted Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:25 AM By Catherine
k, Forty five more victims? Wow! k, That is quite a cleansing! Maryanne, Could you please expound on the meaning of “I hadn’t thought of it as being good for the Church to be cleansed of this too?” Please refrain from answering if it makes you cry or if it makes your head spin. You made an earlier comment that your head had been spinning all afternoon. We believe you. We have seen this in movies.
Posted Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:00 AM By Ron
4unborn: “filth” inside the Catholic Church is when the Archbishop gave Holy Communion to the sisters of perpetual indulgence in full regalia.
Posted Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:11 AM By Anne T.
Mac Donald, please do not compare Ammiano to the Lord Jesus Christ if that was the comparison you meant to make. Ammiano is not like the Lord Jesus Christ, as least not now. He can change if he chooses to do so and become more Christlike, and let us hope and pray that he does, but at the time I do not think it is so. I believe he is one of the legislators who put in the excesses of SB48 here in California. He did back down on that, though, when there were so many calls made against it to our legislators, if he is the same man I think he is. Anyone else, please correct me if I am mistaken.
Posted Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:16 AM By Maryanne Leonard
Catherine, I meant that my perspective had been not to go to anyone to report this, as it is so horrific, my fear is that it will make the Church look bad, cause people to say things against the Church, and perhaps stay away if they had been thinking of looking into Catholicism – thus, I would be harming both the Church and who knows what innocent folks who might turn away from the Church who might have found their salvation there. I also fear not being believed, and of being seen as someone who is seeking money. I want healing; I want release. I hadn’t thought that it might actually be good for the Church if I pointed out a serious problem, even 50 years later. I am crying, yes, because I am afraid, but also trembling because of 50 years of pent-up overwhelmed feelings. Yes, it does seem like a good thing to do, and Kenneth and JLS, thank you for what you shared too. I shall have to let Jesus carry the guilt of others; I can’t do it anymore.
Posted Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:42 PM By Delilah
Maryanne Leonard, my prayers are with you as you once again relive what has happened. May Mary protect you and God bless you at this most difficult moment of your life. May God grant you His Peace.
Posted Thursday, February 23, 2012 5:10 PM By Anne T.
Maryanne Leonard, I think JLS and Kenneth Fisher has given you some good advice. And President Abraham Lincoln when he was a lawyer did pro bono work also, so I hope the three St. Thomases, including the Apostle, put in a word for him in that heavenly kingdom above.
Posted Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:18 PM By Maryanne Leonard
Thank you, Delilah. I appreciate your prayers and kind words very much.
Posted Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:30 PM By Noelle
When will the bishops realize that they are at war? When will they realize that the combatants are the “Catholics” who yell and scream for equal rights, like men sleeping with men, but who mock and defame the Church? Push has come to shove. Time for the ones in charge to stand up and start talking about sin and evil, not just community activity and giving money away. Wake up. Time is now. Not time to play nice in order to keep your tax-exempt status.
Posted Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:48 PM By Kenneth M. Fisher
Mary Ann Leonard, I strongly recommend a “Miles Cristi” Retreat. There you wil have an opportunity to private counseling from a very orthodox priest, and Christ will heal you through one of His priests. Just look them up on the Internet or call me. I am in the Anaheim, CA phone book. Also, you know Who said “the Truth Shall Set YOU free”. God bless, yours in Their Hearts, Kenneth M. Fisher
Posted Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:09 PM By MacDonald
@ Anne T. 10:11 AM — don’t be silly. I was not comparing Ammiano to Jesus, but rather to the other sinnners Jesus chose to be with, in the hope of changing and converting them. Even as the Catholics at St. Mary’s Cathedral gathered with Ammiano, just so Jesus gathered with sinners, and was criticized for it.
Posted Friday, February 24, 2012 6:14 AM By JudeThom
Until the Church returns to its authentic traditional liturgical roots, and abolishes the Protestant Novus Ordo Mass with its lay ministers and altar girls and communion in hand–until that time, I won’t listen to its moral teachings. If the Church can modernize its Liturgy and throw out centuries of tradition, it can modernize its theological views.
Posted Friday, February 24, 2012 8:44 AM By Ruth
JudeThom: Well said!
Posted Friday, February 24, 2012 9:15 AM By Anne T.
Mac Donald, I am assuming now that your post was comparing the Archbishop’s situation with that of Christ’s going among sinners to convert them, but your post does not make that very clear. It sounded as if you were comparing Ammiano to Christ and not the Archbishop. It was the Lord Jesus who was called a glutton and wine bibber so it could apply to the Archbishop if he is trying to convert them on such issues. It would have been better if you had put in “they say about the Archbishop” after your quotation from the New Testament. Thank you for answering, and I am sorry for the misinterpretation.
Posted Friday, February 24, 2012 10:17 AM By MacDonald
@ JudeThom — good heavens. This reminds me of Martin Luther getting all cranky about things he didn’t like, and thus rejecting the Church. If you are not going to follow the moral teaching of the Roman Catholic Church, to whom WILL you listen? Obama? Newt?
Posted Friday, February 24, 2012 10:42 AM By MacDonald
@ Anne T. 9:15 AM — sorry for getting cranky, but I detest Ammiano. You are right, and I should have been clearer in my comparison.
Posted Friday, February 24, 2012 12:16 PM By JLS
Jude Thom, it’s already there, although not formally stated. “Smaller, holier Church”: How else do you think it would happen, than “helped” by the culling devise known as Vatican II? Nothing in tradition, Magisterium, dogma, doctrine, Scripture that says the Church has to number a billion or whatever, right? But you do have to stick with St Peter … because how else could the guarantee by Jesus be?
Posted Friday, February 24, 2012 5:19 PM By Anne T.
Mac Donald, no problem. I do the very same thing when I am in a hurry.
Posted Friday, February 24, 2012 9:54 PM By lucy
This was organized by the S.F.Organizing Comm local PICO branch. The SF Archdiocese gives money to them and they are basically a Saul Alinksey Acorn group of “community organizers. The archdiocese public policy head runs the show here, And they are people in the “social justice office” at the archdiocese that also work for sf organizing comm. Understand who it works? They run things from “inside” the Church!
Posted Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:55 PM By k
Maryanne Leonard, praying for you! Getting concerned. Are you OK?
Posted Wednesday, March 07, 2012 6:55 AM By dick prudlo
continue the trite that is the N.O. mentality. You people are surprised at this stuff?
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