California Catholic Daily reporter, Mary Rose, visits a California college each week and asks students about God, good, and evil. Interview with Kimberly, who is studying psychology, in Plaza Vaquero at Glendale Community College on November 6, 2019.
Do you consider yourself religious?
Kimberly: Yeah. I’m Catholic so I’m religious in like I believe in God and I go to church and there are certain things I believe in that are different from other religions. Catholics have other people they kind of like look up to, too, like the Virgin Mary and stuff. So I think that’s different from Christians and other religions since they only look up to God.
If an atheist asked you why you believe in God, what would you say?
Kimberly: Honestly I don’t know. I’m religious, but it’s not like all the way. I still have my doubts on some things. I believe in science and some things I believe in God. So it just depends how you see things.
Do you believe in an afterlife?
Kimberly: No.
What do you think about abortion?
Kimberly: I think it’s a choice. It’s the girl’s choice. I don’t think anyone else should interfere in that choice.
Why do you think the church condemns abortion?
Kimberly: Because it’s a life that God has given you. So it looks bad if you were aborting the baby that God is blessing you with.
Do you think abortion kills a baby?
Kimberly: I think it depends on how long you’re into having the baby. There’s people that do it into two weeks and it’s still not a baby.
What do you think about the church’s teaching on marriage?
Kimberly: Honestly I don’t know. I’m not against gay marriage. There’s certain beliefs that I’m not against that Catholics would be, like gay marriage. I think it’s someone’s choice if you want to do it with the same sex. It’s not your fault if that’s how you feel.
Why do you think the church teaches that marriage is only between one man and one woman?
Kimberly: Because in the Bible it says that we’re supposed to be with the opposite sex. Something like that. I haven’t read the Bible but what I’ve heard, that’s basically why people think same-sex is bad.
What do you think about contraception?
Kimberly: With birth control, I feel like it’s the same thing with abortion. I feel like girls should be able to have a choice if they want to take it or not because it’s our body. I don’t feel like someone else should tell us what to do or what not to do.
Do you think there are things we shouldn’t be allowed to choose and that should be illegal?
Kimberly: Yeah, like the whole gun situation. I think that’s something that should be more big and should be touched more. Because there was a point where there were a lot of gun shootings and stuff and they weren’t really doing anything about it, just putting it in the news. And they made a law, right, about it? They tried but they never did it and I feel like that’s dumb because they’ve been making laws about birth control or abortions in other places but they don’t do that about guns. And I feel like that’s affecting us more than a girl wanting to have an abortion. The guns are affecting us because there’s more violence in the world. People are able to go buy a gun anywhere basically. I heard that they sell them at Walmart too.
Do you think abortion is an act of violence?
Kimberly: No. I think it really just depends on the situation, but I don’t think so.
At what point in a pregnancy do you think abortion kills a baby?
Kimberly: I think it’s after a month when it’s a fetus already. I think it’s a month or two months. A month, yeah.
If it’s not a human being before a month, what is it that’s growing inside the mother?
Kimberly: I forgot the exact word — an embryo.
Embryo is just a name for a stage of development. A lot of different animals are called embryos in the first stages of their development. Why do you think we have a right to end human beings’ lives as long as they’re before a certain stage in their development?
Kimberly: Oh shoot. I didn’t think of it like that. I think we shouldn’t, maybe we shouldn’t, but like I said, it depends on the situation. Obviously if it’s a little girl and she got raped and she doesn’t want to have the baby and she’s barely in, like two weeks, I feel like she should have that choice because obviously she’s not ready – she’s a fourteen-year-old. Or maybe someone that is not stable, they could be older and maybe they’re not stable enough, and they still want to make that choice.
What if someone with a newborn decides that they’re not stable enough. Should they be able to kill their newborn?
Kimberly: No.
What’s the difference?
Kimberly: That’s true. Yeah, basically there’s no difference. I mean if you already had the baby, that’s even worse because it’s a human and it’s in the world already. Maybe for people it’s easier to get an abortion because it’s still not here, it’s in her body. I still believe abortion should be a choice.
How do you decide what’s right and what’s wrong?
Kimberly: It’s just what my parents or in school they have taught us. How they’ve taught us right and wrong and then it’s just within us if we want to believe that that’s right or wrong. It just depends on anyone’s opinion because I could be saying it’s wrong but someone else might say it right. I think it’s the environment you’re in that effects that.
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So we need more laws about guns for people who kill other people after they are born. Killing people before they are born is fine. Depends on how you feel and the choice you make.
Seems logical to me.
Oh, dear Lord.
Still more silliness from college students. Cal-Catholic, please spare us any more of this series!
It’s bad news, but we have to brace ourselves for it. Young people’s miseducation has not been accidental or random, but has been purposefully calculated, for well over a century. The uneducated, socialist beliefs were produced, according to plan. They will determine our future. The best analogy is for this outcome, strangely, from the dystopian science-fiction, Brave New World, by Aldous Huxley, which came out in the aftermath of the 1930 Anglican Lambeth Conference authorizing contraception in marriage. The industrialization of the production of humanity, was expressed as being divided into 5 classes, A,B,C,D, and E, or, rather, Alpha (extreme ultra-elite, capitalists, Chesterton’s “Hudge” in “What’s Wrong with the World”), Beta (administrative controllers of lower populations, socialists, Chesterton’s “Gudge”), Gamma (moderately educated technicians), Delta (minimally educated) and Epsilon (“ditch-diggers”). With science-fiction as the mythology of the present, to re-frame complicated current reality, this outline has been shown to have a vivid, concrete reality, that is largely unknown to us. 150 years past, elite capital accumulators, the J.P. Morgans, Andrew Carnegies, John D. Rockefeller Sr’s. and others less well known, determined that Americans were too independent, innovative and entrepreneurial (small biz will be the chief target of social-engeineers in the Covid Age, according to Victor Davis Hanson). Mandatory, universal education was structured, purposefully, to handicap the children of the non-elite masses, whose independence and imagination the extreme elite recognized to be a threat to their control of the mass of people. Therefore, dumbed-down mis-education was built into the earliest mass schooling. NY Teacher of the Year John Taylor Gatto describes how this proceeded according to centuries of pre-planning for handicapping the average person’s children with deliberate mis-education, back into the dawn of history, from Plato, John Calvin (but, also, Martin Luther), the “leftist” philosopher Baruch Spinoza in 17th century Netherlands, the Prussian philosopher Johann Ficte, members of the Wedgewood fine ceramics family Malthus, Charles Darwin and Herbert Spencer, and on into the recent past with the great capitalists a century ago. Gatto speaks about it at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZBdv2yznmI&feature=youtu.be&t=4179
A totally confused individual. Why would she believe in God but not an afterlife? Does she think He is just a favor courier while she is here? I guess when she dies she will be dressed up with no place to go…unless she is cremated. How sad because once her soul leaves her body and she sees her creator and how wrong she is, she can’t change her mind or heart. Scary indeed. In my prayers.
Obviously this child knows nothing about the Catholic faith. Just like most of her generation and hers parents generation. Their parents and the church teaching has been lax.