The following comes from a September 20 LA Times article by Patrick McGreevy:
A prominent group advocating for LGBT rights has withdrawn its endorsement of six state Assembly members because they abstained or voted against a bill aimed at protecting gay and transgender students from discrimination at private colleges.
Equality California supported SB 1146, which requires religious universities to disclose whether they have applied for an exemption to federal discrimination laws that conflict with religious tenets.
“We regret having to withdraw our endorsements of legislators who have otherwise been allies of the LGBT community,” said Rick Zbur, executive director of Equality California. “Our longstanding endorsement policy requires withdrawal because we tell our members that our endorsements include only incumbent legislators who have demonstrated a voting record of 100-percent support for our priority legislation.”
The group said it was taking back its endorsements from Assembly members Joaquin Arambula (D-Fresno), Jacqui Irwin (D-Thousand Oaks) and Rudy Salas (D-Bakersfield) for voting against SB 1146. The group is also withdrawing backing from Assembly members Cheryl Brown (D-San Bernardino), Patty Lopez (D-San Fernando) and Adrin Nazarian (D-Sherman Oaks) for abstaining.
No tolerance from the crowd that urges tolerance.
No diversity from the crowd that touts diversity.
No respect from the crowd that demands respect.
Another example of the totalitarian mindset of the Left. If you do not do as the Left demands, you will be punished. It’s more akin to the U.S.S.R. than the U.S.A.
Homosexuality: the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow
By Bryan Fischer https://www.renewamerica.com/columns/fischer/160921
The more homosexuality changes, the more it remains the same.
Homosexual activists have done a masterful job of lying to the American people about the nature of homosexuality. They have convinced most consumers of low-information media that homosexual behavior is simply a benign and healthy alternative to heterosexuality. It isn’t. And it never has been.
With a bent and twisted media as their willing accomplices, they have convinced many Americans that homosexual “marriages” aren’t really any different than heterosexual marriages, and homosexual “families” aren’t really different from natural…
Funny – Not – but the allaged ‘republican’ from Assembly District 16 Catherine Baker – Caved In and switched her vote from Abstain to Yes in response to the same pressure tactics.
Pander or Perish – the ‘gospel’ of the Gaystapo, and they are ever so tolerant of the conscience rights of others. Ahem.
Paid? Homosex Trolls here will doubtless have something more to hide – like their identity / affiliation / paymasters… when trashing this board topic.
I made my calls against the immoral legislation, Michael, and it is not just Christians who believe that marriage is between a man and a woman, Orthodox and most Conservative Jews do, too, along with most of the other religions. That is all I will say as I refuse to get into an argument with the trolls who come on here.
Lucky for these legislators.
Why be endorsed by children of Satan?
You miss the point: these were leftist/Democrat legislators who lost the LGBTQWERTY endorsement because they didn’t toe the line on a single piece of legislation, whereas before they had complied with LGBTQWERTY demands and were endorsed by LGBTQWERTY powerbrokers.
This is an example of the Left eating the Left because the Left is totalitarian and will not accept even the slightest departure from the radical LGBTQWERTY agenda to use the power of government to force LGBTQERTY propaganda and compliance down everyone’s throat.
I think the full movement acronym—to be fully inclusive—is
Hey, Justin, you’ve got to include the infinity sign at the end of that acronym or else you’re doing nothing more than projecting discrimination into the future, ignoring other combinations that haven’t been, as yet, identified. And what’s with keeping yourself to the alphabet and other common symbols. There’s a whole globe and potentially a universe of symbols out there!!!!! I’m sure those who speak Mandarin are already gravely offended!!!
…. and what about our interplanetary brothers(?) and sisters(?) … well, creatures? They have gender sense, too. And even the planets might. Just because “we” can’t label it doesn’t mean we should exclude ;^)
Gay rights = wrongs. Mocking God’s design is not right. Pity & pray for those suffering with the cross of SSA. May God bless them with the grace of chastity, a great friend for all walks of life.
Godless liberals eating their own. Boo-hoo.
These poor souls need to turn to God, have sorrow for their sins, and abstain from politics.
These Legislators should be thanked for their courage to stand up against the crushing pressure from the LGBT lobby. The bill in question, SB 1146, was watered-down quite a bit in the last days of session (another thing to be thankful for)…but the end goal is the same and the author will be back for more. The bill is intended as an outright ASSAULT on RELIGIOUS LIBERTY (and an assault on right reason and conscience, for than matter). But, finally, it seems some folks (like these legislators) are waking up and realizing that the final agenda of the LGBT lobby is to persecute/silence/destroy any person or institution that holds philosophical and moral beliefs that the LGBT lobby seeks to constantly contradict/change/distort. Yes, they…
Homosexuality is a mental disorder, and if the skewed way of thinking that results from attempting to normalize disordered sexual desires and relations is successfully entrenched in social mores and laws, it will be the rise of tyranny and the end of liberty, for truth will be made illegal.
Any attempt to normalize the disorder of homosexuality must be founded on lies about human nature, and lies cannot coexist with truth: lies must squash truth in order for the lies not to be exposed and refuted.
The Supreme Court ruling forcing SSM on the states, if not undone, will be one of the most damaging rulings for liberty in America, for it has made a lie into a law.
Homosexuality is not a mental disorder, Sawyer. We’ve been over this. You are not the arbiter of what constitutes a mental disorder, because you have no training or experience in the field.
Definition from DSM5: “A mental disorder is a syndrome characterized by clinically significant disturbance in an individual’s cognition, emotion regulation, or behavior that reflects a dysfunction in the psychological, biological, or developmental processes underlying mental functioning.”
Homosex is incapable of fulfilling the purposes of sex (reproduction and union); it is biologically abnormal. Desires for homosex are dysfunctions in the psychological and developmental processes underlying mental functioning because they tend toward what is contrary to normal, healthy biological function. Homosexuality is the syndrome that reflects the dysfunction described; it is a mental disorder.
Proven on your terms.
Of course, “clinically significant” are the weasel words that will be used to dispute my accurate demonstration that homosexuality fits the definition of a mental disorder. What counts as “clinically significant”? Is that a subjective or objective determination?
The reason the licensing boards and mental health profession don’t consider homosexuality to be a mental disorder even though it objectively fits the definition is because they claim desires for homosex are not clinically significant.
Desire for homosex is objectively aberrant. Desires are mental states. Aberrant mental states are mental disorders, whether or not a corrupt profession deems them clinically significant by purely subjective measures.
Sawyer, you picked one section out of the definition. So no nothing is proven.
Besides that, DSM-V is indeed controversial over its definition of mental disorder. But what is agreed among the various DSM versions is that the person must be in distress or their functioning in society must be at stake – for example, the ability to relate to others, to work productively and gainfully, to enjoy one’s life, to form and sustain relationships. None of these things are at stake with gay people. Gay people function at the highest levels of society (See Tim Cook of Apple), have long term relationships (my parener and I are together 26+ years; I have good relationships with my family on both sides, with work colleagues and a broad network of…
Since SSA is not thought clinically significant and since homosexuals can indeed function well among family and friends, in society and at work, SSA is not deemed a mental disorder.
I understand but disagree with the decision not to consider SSA as pathological. I contend the mental health profession has erred in that decision because SSA is ordered toward ends that are contrary to the teleology of sex (reproduction and union). A person who desires what is contrary to the fulfillment of his nature is not completely healthy in the mind even though he can be perfectly well-functioning in other respects.
The mental health profession relies on a flawed anthropology as the basis for its decision, in other words.
Again folks, here is the error in display. Misappropriating theological terms (teleology) to buttress a mental health diagnosis is irresponsible and WRONG!
And, YFC, the mental health profession increasingly doesn’t consider gender dysphoria to be a mental disorder, but surely and clearly it is. Believing yourself to be something you are not is obviously a sign of mental imbalance.
The mental health profession doesn’t have a correct understanding of human nature and mental health, hence its erroneous acceptance of homosexuality and gender dysphoria as normal.
As a “science”, psychology is soft, as opposed to the hard science of physics, and psychology proposes things in the name of “science” that are plainly made up. Consensus does not establish truth. Too much of what passes for truth in the behavioral “sciences” is simply agreement among practicioners rather than demonstrated…
A fine priest, Fr. Thomas Dubay’s, (bless his memory) spiritual advice, found on EWTN, says this about our PILGRIM journey on earth: (Paraphrasing) God makes the rules. Follow His commands & accept His design because “He says so” but also because everything in life is part of His plan to save your soul. RE: SSA persons, you were born male or female according to God’s design. Your cross is a life of being chaste. Do it because ‘He says so’ because to be fully human in God’s eyes is to practice a life of virtue. Acting out ‘gay’ is not accepting God’s law & is not spiritually healthy. Accepting God means doing as He Says not as you like. God knows best!
Continued…….God (our Father) knows best! We are all called to be saintly. Radical OBEDIENCE will get us close to that goal & closer to our heavenly home. It’s all about the next life (eternity) and our soul! Repent & Pray.
More idiocy: up until around 1974 or so, the American Psychiatric Association described homosexuality as “disordered.” Politics took over and now it is not, at least definitionally, to the APA, which no longer reflects scientific reality, but only a political one. The Catholic Church does hold fast, for now, As you likely know, “homosexual persons are called to chastity.” (CCC 2359). And, “homosexual acts are intrinsically disorderd.” (CCC 2357) Oh yes, “This [having homosexual tendencies] is objectively disordered.: (CCC 2358).
Folks, Sawyer’s point starts to fall flat when the truth is brought to his attention that the sin of fornication (a sin between two opposite genders) is taught by the Church as a disorder.
jon doesn’t understand the difference between a disorder in a moral act and a mental disorder. He equivocates and thinks he’s brilliant for doing so.
Fornication is morally disordered but not biologically disordered. Desire for the opposite sex is not mentally disordered.
Homosex is morally disordered and biologically disordered. Desire for the same sex is mentally disordered.
Even the dullest knife in the drawer should be able…
Sawyer, I find your posts informative, but if I may suggest something:
Just tell the rest of us what your reasoning is, but perhaps dispense with addressing the professional operative whose name rhymes with “yawn”, appropriately so, or the other drumbeat-anonymous posters.
The purpose of the professional operative is to disrupt communication and thoughtful exchange on this site. The operative will NEVER concede his many errors and contradictions, but just waste space and time.
I skip/do not even read the professional operatives’ posts anymore, as soon as I see the title: because there is no substance to his/their caterwauling. It is so much more enjoyable to read the site this way.
Thanks, Campion, I might be ready to do as you propose with regard to “yawn”.
Indeed, Sawyer’s argumentation has fallen flat. Sawyer, the Catechism says that fornication is a “disorder of the will.” Isn’t that your “selling point” all along? The will is a function of the mind and is therefore a “mental disorder” according to your own “reasoning.” Therefore, if you want to be consistent in your own “reasoning,” you have to call opposite-sex attraction a “mental disorder” too. You’ve been trapped into a position of your own making.
Sawyer’s premise for calling homosexuality a mental disorder stems from his conflating of the Church’s phrase “intrinsic disorder.” Note his appropriation of the word “teleology” in his reasoning. His reasoning here remains disingenuous.
The embodied human intellect has sensual and rational appetites, and both can be disordered.
Fornication is a disorder in the rational appetite, not the sensual appetite.
Homosexuality is a disorder in the sensual appetite, but a chaste homosexual would have an ordered rational appetite.
A habitual disposition to fornication, as opposed to isolated acts, is an abiding disorder in the rational appetite and thus a type of mental disorder.
A habitual desire for the same sex is an abiding disorder in the sensual appetite, and also a type of mental disorder.
There can be mental disorders in both the sensual and rational appetites. So what?
Homosexuality according to Sawyer is a biological disorder?? Has he just proposed that there is a gene for homosexuality? Folks, see the errors one commits when one doesn’t use the Church’s words with precision and faithfulness.
To say that fornication is a disorder of the rational, but not the sensual appetite is WRONG! Aquinas himself would have called you out on that!
Folks, it is errors like this that have to be called out. They claim they want a “free and thoughtful exchange of ideas” when what they are disseminating is heresy, errors, calumny against the clergy, scandal, and falsehood. As proof, look at Sawyer’s errors above.
jon, this is my last reply to you EVER. You are banished from my consideration because your post above proves Campion’s point, so I will take his advice.
1) I didn’t say homosexuality is a biological disorder; I said homosex is biologically disordered. There is a big difference.
2) Aquinas would agree that fornication is a disorder of the rational appetite. The well-ordered sensual appetite would be moved toward the opposite sex (a good) by the desire for pleasure, but in presenting that object to the mind, it has to decide whether to fornicate (an evil) or not; that decision is made under the influence of the rational appetite.
Folks, Sawyer’s point is laughable. The Angelic Doctor MOST DEFINITELY referred to fornication (a sin between opposite genders) as present in the sensual appetite. It’s in the Summa (II-II, Q154, A3, ad1).
However, what has been proven most definitely is Sawyer’s error in misusing philosophical terms such as “intrinsic disorder” into the behavioral sciences. Notice how he now ridiculously parses and hair-splits his use of the word “disorder.” The fact that he brings in philosophy, AQUINAS, to support a psychiatric diagnosis IS WRONG!
Actually Sawyer, it’s an EMOTIONAL disorder. “mental disorder” is more of an insurance company term. And it may be applied to psychoses. These differences are very important to understand though. Dr. Joe Nicolosi stresses this often.
and Dr. Nicolosi is a fraud.
Only to someone like you YFC … who is non-servium to Will of Christ
Yes, America is becoming an Alice in Wonderland, upside-down world in which the mental disorder of homosexuality is not only not considered a mental disorder, but those who attempt to help homosexuals correct their disordered desires are legally prevented from doing so by the totalitarian LGBTQWERTYs who are using the power of government to coerce acceptance of the lies that homosexuality is healthy, good and normal.
Black is white, right is wrong, up is down, evil is good.
Those who tell the truth are considered frauds while those who lie are considered experts.
I would consider it a badge of honor not getting the endorsement of this group. Proclaim the word of God and the Holy Gospel. The only marriage created by Almighty God is the marriage between a man and a woman or husband and wife. Pray America Pray that all these people that are not living according to the word of God and Holy Gospel convert and repent. Convert and repent sooner rather than later for our Lord God and Saviour Jesus Christ King of Kings True Man and True God Lord of Lords and King of Kings is coming soon like a thief in the night.
LGBT endorsements? Who really cares? Who would want to be endorsed by a deviant mentally and spiritually disordered group who’s sinful pride is so great they dared to defy and grievously offend God over and over again?
You know James, you are correct. Satan is behind homosexuality to draw their souls and those of their sympathizers into hell. Don’t believe it? Then read St Paul’s epistle to the Romans, Chapter 1 verses 27 through 31. But you have to read it from a credible Roman Catholic Bible like the Douay-Rheims Holy Bible, not the Queen James LGBT version. (That is not meant to insult you; I have heard the LGBTr’s have written one or are doing so.)
So what christian politician in his right mind would ever want an endorsement from Satan? Only a pagan politician would do so, you know: wickens, muslims, and etc.