A Catholic bioethicist has made the case for everyone to receive the Covid-19 vaccine, while holding that the Church needs to play a central role against the widespread adoption of vaccine mandates.
“I beg anyone reading this who is not vaccinated to prayerfully consider getting vaccinated,” Dr. Charlie Camosy, an assistant professor of bioethics at Fordham University, wrote in an Aug. 13 opinion piece at Religion News Service.
“Pope Francis is right, in my view, to say that it is a moral obligation, due in part to the duty you have to protect the lives of others — people like Aaron, one of my best friends growing up, who recently died of this terrible disease,” he said. “His son, my godson, is now without his father. This kind of terrible pain is multiplying across the country as the Delta variant spreads.”
Camosy said that he thinks there are “understandable and coherent moral and religious arguments” to decline the Covid-19 vaccine, although he does not believe these arguments are correct.
“The pharmaceutical companies that have brought the current vaccines to market have used (either in their production or testing) the cloned cells of a baby who was killed via abortion,” said Camosy. “And they obviously did so without her consent.”
Camosy emphasized that Catholic teaching “defends the freedom of conscience and the need for all humans to come to the truth without coercion,” but added that he hopes people come to understand Catholic teaching on vaccinations without having to be coerced, as by a mandate.
Some companies have implemented mandates requiring that their employees be vaccinated as a condition of employment. In some states, the government has mandated that employees in certain sectors be vaccinated against COVID-19. And in certain cities, there is a planned “vaccine passport” system that will limit entrance to restaurants and other locations to those who can prove they received the coronavirus vaccine.
Additionally, given the country’s history with performing medical experiments on minority groups, Camosy said that he fully understands why people, particularly Black Americans, may be hesitant about getting the vaccine. Camosy noted that the vaccines themselves are still considered to be experimental….
Rather than coerce people to get vaccinated through mandates, Camosy suggested that “we should also make persuasive appeals to as many people as we possibly can,” and invited people with ethical hesitations to contact him personally.
“Please know that, though I hope to convince you to protect yourself and others by taking the vaccine, I will also defend the sanctuary of your conscience and insist that you are not coerced,” he said.
The above comes from an Aug. 16 story on the site of the Catholic News Agency.
The Church needs to be on the right side of history, No Forced Vaccines!
Those with natural immunity are already protected. They should not be treated as “unvaccinated” because their recovery from the virus has afforded them all the immunity they need.
Read this link about Cardinal Burke, the vaccine, and the unborn. Then say a prayer for his full and complete recovery.
No martyrs crown yet. He is now out of ICU from what I have read.
Clearly the best Christian mandate is to love one another. Vaccination is one form of love for one another.
However, if a company mandates vaccines for employment or service, that does nothing to offend the freedom of religion or conscience. You are free to not work for that company or free to not engage that service if it is against your conscience.
Seems pretty clear to me.
Do you also support the right of the Church not to employ practicing homosexuals? They can work somewhere else.
Just because you don’t like the implications of the comparison doesn’t mean it’s irrelevant. Exactly the same principle is at stake. If a company has a right to require that employees get vaxxed then the Church as an employer has a right to require that employees not get same sex married. If the Church has a right to require employees get vaxxed, then the Church has a right to require that employees uphold Catholic morality. Exactly the same principle. Exactly.
Employees are free to accept the vaxx or Catholic morality as conditions of employment, or not. They are free. Requiring that Catholic employees uphold Catholic morality does not offend freedom of conscience.
YFC painted himself into a corner because he has come down as opposed to the Church firing same sex married employees.
Seems pretty clear to me.
The court has upheld religious liberty concerning Catholic morality considerations in employment. we’ll see if they give the same consideration to those opposed to vaxx mandates. Let’s hope they do.
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I love others so much that I would never encourage or require them to do anything that offends their conscience, health, life, or common sense. The so-called “vaccines” are making people sick and killing many. Have you never listened to Bill Gates expound upon his theory that there are too many people in the world, and that “problem” can be fixed with “vaccines”? Wake up.
Those of you well-intentioned but misguided people who got jabbed will live to regret it. Story out of Florida that fully vaccinated people are getting infected and dying from COVID at an accelerated pace. That’s a clear signal that the vaccine turns against the recipient and makes the disease worse when you get infected with a mutated variant of COVID.
You cannot get un-jabbed. If you’ve been jabbed, you have a ticking time bomb in your body. Good luck.
Catholic prelates who are mandating the jab for employees are heinously wrong.
This was all designed to reduce the global population.
Follow the science. Yeah, right. Follow it to an early grave.
In my area, those counties with lower vaccination rates have lower cases of Covid now. There is a possibility that what you say is correct. However, the possibility also exist that because people are vaccinated they go unmasked, they do not social distance, they don’t wash their hands and surfaces etc. Other possibilities which I have not seen addressed is that the shots did not work, the shots have worn off, the shots were not handled properly so were not as effective. However, 90% of the hospitalized cases are unvaccinated people. Another possibility is that the areas that are unvaccinated are rural, so there is not as much chance for the virus to spread.
Anecdotally, my physician has said the severity of disease is much worse in the unvaccinated.
I was concerned about serious side effects from the vaccine but I know I did the right thing in getting vaccinated. It gave my family peace of mind and I obeyed the Lord. If the Lord takes me somehow because of it, well, then it was a step on my path to Him.
I spoke too soon. The rural counties have less cases but a higher number of cases per population.
The Lord did not tell you to get the fake vaccine.
Yes He did. I got it out of obedience. I was afraid to get it but I obeyed and when I obeyed he told me “There is absolutely nothing to worry about.”
No More TLM: kindly cite your source for the story out of Florida about vaccinated people dying from COVID. I have not been able to find it. Thanks.
Not hard to find:
Doctors say it’s “rare”. That just means the explanation doesn’t fit their narrative. The “vaccine” is turning on recipients. That’s why they crash so suddenly.
As this goes on, expect to see more “fully vaccinated” people dying from COVID. The mechanism that causes this is well known from previous attempts to develop SARS vaccines. COVID is a form of SARS. The vaccines turn on the recipients eventually.
This was the danger of widespread administration of a “medicine” that has not undergone long-term testing. They didn’t know that it would be safe long-term. Yet the pharma companies are immune from lawsuits for damage resulting from their “medicines”.
The pope and bishops are wrong to say that getting “vaccinated” is a moral obligation and an act of love. We might see it as a misguided act of self-destruction.
Vaccines including this one do NOT “turn on” their recipients. Sometimes they become less effective as the immune system “forgets” about the target of the vaccine, but they don’t “turn” on the recipient. This is why boosters are being considered, so that the body maintains proper immunity.
It is true that a few vaccinated people have died of COVID. Few vaccines are perfect, but the likelihood of death or even hospitalization is about 20 times less than for the unvaccinated. The chance that you get even a mild infection (slight fever or cough, for example), is less than for unvaccinated. The exact reduction is hard to calculate but it is estimated at 4-8 times lower than for unvaccinated.
And I’d just add that for those who do not trust or want or believe it is morally permissible to take these vaccines, you still have an obligation to save lives by masking, distancing and outsiding so you do not become part of the spreader pool.
You’re not familiar with the literature about how dangerous SARS vaccines are.
Yes, the point is we will live with our consciences in tact, for as long as the Lord allows.
Dino, You want sources? Thank you for asking. Here you go:
Board Certified Occupational Therapist Whistleblower Reveals Shocking Medical Corruption in Hawaii – More Patients Die From Experimental Moderna Jab Than COVID-19
VAXXED TO DEATH: Alarming study confirms vaxxers will face catastrophic Antibody-Dependent Enhancement injuries and deaths
Eric Clapton feared he would ‘never play again’ after ‘disastrous’ time with vaccine
FDA to Warn of COVID Vaccine Link to Rare Nerve Disorder That Can Cause Paralysis
DEPOPULATION ALERT: Shocking new study reveals covid vaccine TERMINATES 4 out of 5 pregnancies via “spontaneous abortions”
A shocking new study published in the New England Journal of Medicine reveals that when pregnant women are given covid vaccinations during their first or second trimesters, they suffer an 82% spontaneous abortion rate, killing 4 out of 5 unborn babies.
There are lots more. Please don’t come back with a “fact-checker” argument. They can be just as biased as anyone else. Twitter or Facebook, for example.
Thank you, Claudius. The second link, about the possibility that the vaccine will turn into a death jab for recipients is the most informative. Thank God I didn’t get the death jab, and I won’t get it.
I am wondering if a similar thing is happening with the flu vaccine causing new variants. Although Flu vaccines are not tainted by abortion cells and different from COVID vaccines, I’ve never gotten one nor felt the need to get one. I have not gotten the flu in so long I can’t remember. When I did it was only slight and was over 17 years ago, if my memory serves me right. I have had slight colds, but zinc (use Zicam tablets) seemed to have listened them, along with C , D and other vitamins.. Everyone I know who has gotten flu vaccines usually get it at least once every year after vaccinated.
Correction to fourth line: “lessened” not “listened”.
“Additionally, given the country’s history with performing medical experiments on minority groups, Camosy said that he fully understands why people, particularly Black Americans, may be hesitant about getting the vaccine.”
A lie. Both parts. But then Fordham is Jesuit, now isn’t it. So what’s Catholic News Agency’s excuse?
Pope Francis is proclaiming that to get the vax is an “Act of Love.” Do you love Pope Francis? Then get the vax.
He’s wrong about that. No more need be said.
Oh, many people believe the Pope is wrong about lots of things. But we all saw him recently, proclaiming that to get the vax is an “Act of Love.”
That is just his opinion. He is not speaking Ex Cathedra. He is neither a doctor nor a virologist, and he does not know the medical history of everyone on the planet. He can suggest, but people have to decided for themselves what is best for themselves and their families with all the dangers involved, and the facts that the vaccines used right know used aborted fetal cell lines for development and/or testing.
Correction to end of fourth line: “now” not “know”.
Wonder what Pope St. John Paul II would have done, in this situation?
Do you think your parish priests should all be vaccinated? Do they all wear masks? What are their beliefs?
A vaccine by definition does two things. 1. Prevents infection 2. Prevents transmission. The mRNA gene therapy, originally studied as a hopeful treatment for cancer, does neither. Further if the process of injection is the new definition of a vaccine then insulin is a vaccine. Transfusion or saline boils would be prolonged vaccines via the vessels. And yes there is such a thing as anti-body enhancement YFC, and the body does then turn on itself.
If one chooses to be experimented on that is there choice. No one should be forced into it. Two gardasil vaccine deaths and it was pulled from the market initially , 25 swine flu vaccine deaths, pulled from the market. Some 12,000 deaths and 300,000+ adverse events so far, vetted by VAER’s, and it’s being pushed like there is no tomorrow. One paper out of Europe with scientists from thre nations said with this vaccine we will have to accept 2deaths for every 3 people saved. How about only immunocompromised and elderly participate and the rest with a 98-99.9 percent of survival pass on the vaccine and get treated and streeted as we say at the hospital. Then we can get to herd immunity and minimize efficacy of variants since normally viruses would mutate to become more infectious but less deadly normally by not vaccinating into a pandemic. You know, science.
Yes but Pope Francis also just said the commandments are not absolutes. Jesus said “if you would enter life follow the commandments.”