A long time friend from northern Italy asked what was going on in Washington after seeing the scenes on his TV. This was my reply. This is not a religious commentary as per usual, just my take on the division and frustration in the US today.
Roberto,
Your well wishes for America are appreciated. Your prayers would help also.
HISTORY
The United States of America is a country different from other republics in the world.
In the 1700s, the English wrested most of the territory which would become the U.S. from the French.
The original 13 colonies of England on the North American continent were New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Delaware, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Maryland, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, all along the Atlantic Ocean seaboard.
England granted land rights in the 1600s to various men or groups to establish colonies here because of religious differences, economic reasons, among others.
When the descendants of the colonists felt oppressed by the king in taxes, conscription of men for soldiers, and on, the colonists revolted in 1776.
In 1783 the war was over and 13 colonies became 13 independent states, just as your country Italy is an independent state now after its unification. (I’m not so sure anymore with the EU and all its laws and regulations.)
The confederation of states was not working well, so a constitutional congress was formed to write a constitution to which all 13 states had to agree in order to become united.
To elect a president, each state sends a specified number of electors according to their population. The founders did this to keep single large populated states like New York and Virginia at that time from controlling the rest of the country such as California, New York, Texas and Florida would be able to do today.
The federal government in the beginning had little power and influence over the individual states.
When that power grew, some states felt oppressed and rebelled in 1860 for a civil war of 5 years.
From this time forward, the federal government of senators from the states, representatives of the states, with the president grew stronger. In the early 1900s an income tax amendment ratified by 2/3 of the states allowed the federal government to tax income from earnings and spend the peoples’ hard-earned money according to the government’s desire.
After two world wars the federal power grew even more with this money and federal laws.
The two political parties were not much different, Republicans more business oriented, and Democrats more worker oriented, but with common goals for building up the country.
In the last eight years that has changed. Just as Europe is socialist, many younger people in the U.S. wish the government to control our lives, our economy, religion, schools, what we say and do, how we think, open borders, yielding our sovereignty to the UN or to international treaties.
For a treaty to be valid in the U.S., our Senators must ratify it; otherwise it is merely an agreement that has no binding power.
President Trump broke much of those non-biding unratified treaties in his 4 years. He removed us from unsigned treaties like the Paris Climate Accord, certain international trade treaties, kept out those who tried to invade our country from all over the world, removed internal regulations by bureaucrats who took it upon themselves to interpret laws from our congress (just like the EU does to its member states), lowered our taxes, rebuilt our defense system, challenged Communists in China to stop stealing our intellectual property, to trade fairly, and in general gave power to the people as was intended by the founders who ratified our constitution in 1787.
Never was it the founders’ intent to impose restrictions on business, movement, speech, religion, etc. as socialism and communism do in the world.
People in government are enriched way beyond their salaries, both those elected and the bureaucrats. President Trump threatened both their power and their access to extra money, returning power to those of us who are not elites in government. This power, money and bureaucracy spread to universities, churches, particularly the Catholic Church through the bishops’ conferences, and all aspects of society where money could be given.
Thus many entities including the Catholic Church fought against him for four years. They failed in every way to oust him through false accusations and manipulation of government.
ELECTIONS IN THE US
Every four years on the first Tuesday of November an election is held for the president, vice president, all the representatives of congress, and some of the senators (this rotates because they are elected in their states at different times.)
Each state legislature only (not governor nor other officials) has election law power granted by the constitution to regulate and promote voting.
When a citizen (only U.S. citizens may vote) registers to vote, most states require some identification like a driver’s license, a signature which can be matched to the vote recorded on the day of voting to assure that it is indeed the person who signed the registration card.
When we come to the polls to vote our signature is taken after our ballot is completed, and later the signature is matched to the card to assure fairness.
If we cannot be present (as I could not be this year because I was in California helping other priests in their churches), we may request an absentee ballot by filling out a form, showing some identification (ID) like a driver’s license, and stating why we cannot vote in person.
A ballot is mailed to us then. After filling it out, most states demand a signature on the envelope so that fairness be assured that the person voting is indeed the one who requested the ballot. The election officials are supposed to match the signature on the ballot envelope to the voter’s real signature.
The U.S. has had election fraud just like any third world country. This year it was manifest beyond all others. We are as bad as any banana republic in the world now.
The voting rolls in the counties of most states have not been cleaned out of the names of deceased people, people who have moved to other places. In addition those ineligible to vote have presented themselves as citizens and given ballots without question.
Ballots were requested in the name of deceased people, filled out, and counted without signature verification.
No ID was required when a person arrived at the polling place to vote.
Because of Covid a very few legislatures and some governors or secretaries of state sent mail ballots to everyone, registered or not. Only the state legislature has the right to command this according to the voting laws.
More people voted than were registered in many states. People who were not registered in a state voted in that state as well.
On election night, President Trump was leading by huge margins in a number of states. Those states, all with Democrat control in the large population centers, stopped counting for the evening. This never is done. Suddenly the next morning huge numbers of ballots were unloaded from trucks. Many of them had votes only for Joseph Biden and not the other candidates on the ballot.
The electronic vote counters also were questionable in counting extra votes for Biden.
This last election had so much voter fraud that it cancels out the honest votes of people like me and those who follow the voting laws.
Yesterday you saw the frustration unleashed by those whose voting rights were trampled upon by corrupt people who will secure the election for their candidate through fraud.
Most of us Americans do not want socialism as Europe is living it. We do not want bureaucrats or elected officials interfering in our daily lives.
We will see what becomes of our 250 year experiment as a republic now under socialist control.
By the way my Italian friend, do not fall under the oppression of a Germany or a Russia again. The U.S. no longer will be able to rescue you.
The above comes from an email sent on January 7 by Father Richard Perozich, former priest of the Diocese of San Diego.
Well Father, your analysis reminds me of the commentary spewed out by Newsmax, Anon, and other news channels that can’t tell reality from Qanon conspiracy theories. Your history is ok, but your summation of the last election is rubbish. There was no fraud, there was no miscounting of votes. Trump lost by the same margin that he won four years earlier. The folks who rampaged through DC yesterday and invaded the Capital were seditionists at best. How can you love Amerca and interfere with a Constitutionally mandated event at the same time? Most of what you list as Trump’s contributions during his four years in office is what makes us a banana republic. His presidency was a blemish on the soul of our country. It will take decades for the rest of the world to learn to trust us again, it will take years for Americans to trust their government again.
Comments like this are why I’ll never accept Democrats as fellow Americans. We are an irreparably divided country. Good versus evil. Right versus wrong. Democrat politicians should be afraid of what comes next.
My perspective matches perspective of Father Perozich, not Bob One.
As does mine.
This political analysis from Bob One is incorrect. There was indeed massive fraud, one of which was in the form of the changing of election rules in the battle-ground states, thereby usurping the Constitutionally-mandated rule that it is only the state legislatures that can determine the manner of the election. The rules were changed in a manner that would benefit unfairly one party over the other. The Trump Administration wasn’t a “blemish” on the soul of the country; that’s your opinion and it is unsupported by reality, except by the mainstream media and the Democrat radicals. Violence in the US Capitol is indeed wrong; but the double standard here is that the voiceless condemnation in the media and from you for the massive violence in many of our cities during the summer and autumn months last year curtesy of Antifa and BLM. That’s the double-standard, and you perpetuate that. Disgraceful is your comment.
An analysis of your comment:
spewed out– tsk tsk. That’s hateful
conspiracy theories — Which ones?
was no fraud, there was no miscounting of votes — Did not not see testimony of poll workers who showed videos of what was happening? There are none so blind as those who have vision but refuse to see.
How can you love America and interfere with a Constitutionally mandated event at the same time? — The “event” may be Constitutional but the “event” that happened, was not.
His presidency was a blemish on the soul of our country — That’s your opinion and makes no sense.
It will take decades for the rest of the world to learn to trust us again.– who cares?
I’ll pray for you.
Bob One,
Americans like myself feel that the case has not YET been made for substantial election fraud. Nevertheless, we feel in our bones that Trump was cheated out of office by a banana republic media that failed democracy by not treating the candidates and the issues fairly.
Trump is a social bully, but his polices were sound. Why do you hound Trump but give the news media a pass? Which is more dangerous for democracy?
Hmmm. These are the people who want classics tonight in our schools. How anyone can explain the civil war without mentioning centuries of slavery is showing their bias right there on their lapel.
Maybe the same way the liberals, Obama and Clinton never mentioned the exploitation and degradation of women aborting their children and calling it a “choice” all these years. Did I mention that Blacks abort their children at four times the rate as Whites. Sounds racist to me. And who ended slavery?
One fact is that there were ballots sent to dead people. One man reported ballots for his mother and father, both of whom were long dead, sent out. When a news outlet refused to listen, he turned to the Republicans to get the word out. Later he was disconnected from media such as twitter, merely for bringing up the fact.
If citizens such as I have to go through loops just to get a real driver’s license, so should anyone else to vote. I had to present my last driver license, my birth certificate, my marriage license for proof of name change, my marriage certificate, my actual SS card and fingerprints.
Sending a ballot to a dead person is not fraud. It is a mistake. It happens in every election, and those ballots are sometimes sent by mistake to Republican dead people and Dem dead people every election. Some states are better than others of culling the roles.
It is only fraud if a not-dead person picks up the ballot and votes it. And even then, those ballots certainly weren’t among the tens of thousands of voters who swung the election to Trump, millions upon millions nationwide.
And even beyond that, there were cases of supposed dead people voting that include examples of men who have the same name as their dead fathers and even live at the same address….and got reported by the media as fraud but when birthdates were sorted out, it was clear there was no fraud.
So far the only known case of actual fraud in 2020 was committed by a Republican, an d it cost Biden something like 3 votes.
Dead people were minor problems compared to the rest of the voter fraud which was never thoroughly examined or investigated. What a joke.
YFC would defend Jack the Ripper if he were a registered Democrat.
Sounds about right to me, Fr. Perozich. After I had to go through loops and loops and documentation after documentation and fingerprinting just to get a “real” driver’s license, and all my ancestors go back in this country at least three generations or longer, I resent people complaining that they have to present proof of eligibility to vote.
Furthermore, I do not believe anyone should be allowed to be a citizen of two countries at one time. Make up you damn minds.
Oh, and that was only after standing and sitting on the ground in line for about an hour at DMV (Department of Motor Vehicles) to even get into their office to even present any documentation. It was impossible to get an appointment.
Bob One: as a practicing and faithful Roman Catholic as well as a loyal American citizen, I agree with your analysis. More important, the data and the facts support your conclusions. To date, no credible evidence has been presented to support the assertions of Trump and his supporters that there was massive fraud. My Italian Catholic grandmother taught me at an early age that it is a sin to lie. She was right and the moral teachings of Jesus Christ have not changed. These CINOs who spread the falsehoods of Qanon, OAN, etc are committing grave sins.
Luigi and Bob One are both wrong, but what are you complaining about you are getting a one party state. Soon the entire country will look like downtown LA with tent cities and feces lined streets. We will be losing more of our liberty and property while leftist like you two cheer on the bureaucrats
LOL. The evidence was never allowed to be presented or thoroughly investigated.
Luigi, who are you to judge these other people?
Correction: It takes 2/3 of Congress or 2/3 of state legislatures to propose a constitutional amendment. It takes 3/4 of the states to ratify the amendment to the constitution.
Only 9 ratifying states (of the 13) needed for establishment of constitution.
Prego.
Mario: read 1 Timothy 5:20
We are indeed a divided nation. In that division, it is important to discuss the differences, not to condemn those with whom we disagree. I am registered as neither Democrat, Republican, or Independent which is allowed in my state. I consider Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, etc. as true Americans who happen to disagree on the path for America. There is a difference between the American Creed and the American Soul. Our Creed is unambiguous, “All men are created equal.” We are still working on that idea and will never achieve it until people stop thinking that we aren’t all created equal. Our creed says that all are welcome, “Bring me you tired, your poor… those yearning to be free.” And yet we want to shut down immigration to some groups. Democracy is hard, but it is built on ideas, not demagoguery and hate of fellow man. We saw what hate brings when thousands breached the temple of democracy in DC and destroyed parts of it. That was a revolution, not a democracy. That was sedition. What do you think would have happened if those anarchists had been Blacks or of Arab descent? Compare the pictures of police presence protecting the Capital against white people and the picture of the police presence during the BLM march in Washington. Then tell me that law and order don’t mean protecting whites against blacks and other minorities. We need to talk about issues, not vilify each other.
Bob One like all leftists will always bring race into any issue. Your friends at BLM/Antifa committed acts of “terror” in over 28 cities throughout the country, and they were bailed out by your leftist friends. The ruling class was in fear on Wednesday. “It is important to discuss the differences, not to condemn those with whom we disagree.” – utterly laughable – the entire leftist establishment including big tech has been doing this to the white working class over 4 years. I am tired of “discussing differences” with people who want me dead.
Exactly so let’s look at your quote: “Bring me you tired, your poor… those yearning to be free.” And yet we want to shut down immigration to some groups”…..
Most people erroneously believe the famous phrase came from the U.S. government. Many people mistakenly believe it’s an immigration mandate. But that’s pure fiction. The fact is that the poem was reluctantly written as one of many artistic and literary works to raise money for the construction of the pedestal on which the Statue of Liberty stands. In addition, the poem wasn’t placed on the statue’s pedestal until 20 years after.
As for the riots, we still do not have a full account of what transpired but we do know that over the summer there were killings, riots, looters, massive property destruction by Antifa and BLM, two terrorists groups, and what did the cops do or were ordered to do by the Leftist socialist Dems in charge? Nothing! Yes, we need to talk and get the truth out.
I think it’s fair to say that months or years from now, both the far left and far right will still believe that there was or was not voter fraud, etc. Each has intrenched their beliefs, rightly or wrongly, toward their own biases and worldviews. If you’re pro-life, the evidence shows one way, and if you’re pro-choice, almost the opposite. It saddens me that for far too many, it’s a duality of choice, this or that, but no compromise anywhere along the spectrum of possible answers. Moreover, each side rather piously and self-righteously likens itself to being absolutely correct, and the other side wrong and worthy of denigration, name calling, and exclusion. To top it off, in order to lessen any cognitive dissonance, they justify someone’s action or inaction as mere things to overlook or endure so that their side is still in power. A good example is President Trump, whom many can agree is less than exemplary as a civil leader. But because he helps the pro-life agenda, his foibles and sins are forgiven, and anything good he does do is amplified into a halo effect (meaning he did this right, ergo everything he did was right). Critical thinking and use of evidence have gone the wayside for both sides, with absolutism and dogma (political and religious, or in some cases, non-religious) the primary way to think. Dare to debate with someone thus inclined? Fallacies in logic will erupt, with accusations of how suddenly evil someone is simply for seeking civil discussion. As for the good Father, I would remind him of a phrase from the movie “A Few Good Men”, where the Tom Cruise character quips, “It doesn’t matter what I feel, only what I can prove”. Despite the court rulings showing no preponderance of voter fraud (enough to throw off the election), etc., and conspicuous requirement for Trump loyalty being “all in”, his writings smack of being pro-Trump out of simply his perceived pro-life stance. I wonder though – would the good Father be so supportive if he found out that Trump had been the instigator, purchaser of abortions for his girlfriends? I’m not saying he has (i’ve no evidence), but if there were, how might that affect the common conception that Trump is pro-life?
With all due respect your take is exactly that, your liberal spin. Nice try though. And how dare you label the killing of the innocents as a “duality of choice” when over 60 million little girls/boys were destroyed, with the help of the Democrat party, the party of death. She/he is a child not a choice. And are you judging Trump now without credible evidence impugning his reputation like the Left has done for the last four years. I guess you never read anything about St. Paul or St. Augustine before their conversion. I notice that the rest of your diatribe is liberal propaganda pretending that you are open minded and it’s the Right who should give in and just get along. No we won’t surrender when lives are at stake and our country is being taken over by pro-death radical socialists. And by the way, the massive voter fraud was never investigated. Again nice try but I don’t buy it and neither does anyone who sees through this spin.
All I have to say is WOW! I’ve come to one conclusion that this subject will not be resolved anytime soon. You will all be having this same discussion long after I’m dead and buried. I’ll admit I’m not the best Catholic around, but I like to think that I am honest, trustworthy and do care for all my family, neighbors, coworkers of any race, color or creed. I am respectful of your beliefs and will never impose mine on yours. As Rodney King said….can we please get along? Just like the street I live on, we are a fabulous mixture of humanity and yes, one neighbor who proudly waives his Trump flags! What does that tell you? We look out for each other, we take care of each other…..nothing or no one is going to change this!
Great debate people….now how do we fix what’s broken?
My opinion: it doesn’t get fixed. It gets replaced. And the way things are looking, God help freedom loving Americans when the elites attempt to establish the replacement. We in California are already experiencing the beginnings of it. You will stay at home. You will own nothing. And you will be happy or at least not complain about it.
Thanks, Shirley and here is a link for doubters — to confirm what you have said: https://youtu.be/ix5Gt-r4Z24
I am an infrequent visitor to this site. To me, comments like “I will never accept Democrats as Americans” in no way reflect Catholic values. So many posts here are stereotypical, filled with anger and hateful personal attacks like high schoolers. Posters should ask themselves if their words are meant to inform, educate, or contribute to the greater good before sending. Keep the conversations about how we can approach life in a way that follows Jesus.
Do you remember when Jesus got angry at the money changers? Was He hateful? Righteous anger when injustice & evil are threatening lives is mercy if it just converts one person to reject that evil. It is quite clear that the party of death is promoting death & fascism now. We need to speak out because we could be held accountable for our silence.
Ronnie in one post you talk about socialists and communists, then call the same people fascists. I suggest you look up the definitions of these mutally exclusive terms and decide what you really mean. I saw another poster suggest you review the serenity prayer. Take their advice.
They are socialists first & quickly embracing fascism by suspending free speech & censoring anyone who cares to express opposing opinions. They have social media, most of the deranged & unhinged hateful liberal media, sports & most businessess who salute them & follow their orders. Maybe we both should read the serenity prayer….the courage to change the things I can….
Good question CalCatholic reader!
First, with the majority of state legislatures in Republican hands, it is extremely important that they investigate thoroughly the massive voter fraud and fix it in their own states. Second. the majority of attorney generals are in Republican hands also so they must resist and fight against anything the new anti-life administration would try to force on states. And lastly the country, the 73 million Trump supporters, must fight the social media fascists’ and cancel their accounts, especially Twitter and Facebook. How’s that for a beginning! But I also forgot that we must expose liberals infiltrating sites like this, who pretend to be on your side (and take both sides saying the Right and the Left are equally to blame) and then go in for the kill and disparage and denigrate Trump and anyone who voted for him and spew their hate on him/us.
Father Perozich, it is hard to write the history of the US succinctly but your Italian friend could find a more accurate version.
As for what happened…the Internet is what happened. Social media is what happened. Sin is what happened.
What happened is what always happens, people who think they are above the law break the law. Self-righteous people decide that whatever sin they want to commit is justified because they are oh so good and the people they disagree with are oh so bad.
The MAGA movement was destroyed by jerks just like BLM got destroyed by jerks. And jerks that film themselves committing crimes and post it on the internet.
5 people died for absolutely no reason.
And thirty people died by BLM and Antifa at the “summer of rage” and thousands of businesses were destroyed not to mention the destruction of those Democrat cities and not a peep….
Ronnie, I would really love to see how you work the moral theology of justifying the deaths of 5 people and the attempted armed violent overthrow of the us government by citing the tragic deaths during thousands of mostly peaceful rallies. Does one evil deed justify another evil deed?
@ Does Evil Justify Evil – I am mystified that you would call the months of “thousands of mostly peaceful rallies”, um, peaceful or, um, rallies. Our cities were burned and our buildings were looted and trashed, people lost their businesses and livelihoods, our decent and over-worked law enforcement officers were assaulted, monuments and statues were torn down and, worst of all, innocent people were maimed and murdered. This sustained violence on our country was given eye-rolls by N. Pelosi and J. Biden, with K. Harris astonishingly raising funds to spring the “protesters” from jails. Speaking of N. Pelosi, she told reporters last June that she was confused as to why Americans weren’t “uprising” against the Trump administration over conditions at the Mexican border. Seriously? That wasn’t a call to arms? I think it most certainly was! She should be held accountable for her reckless speech, which most likely riled up the radical groups to the months of violence. President Trump also shares responsibility in his reckless speech these past weeks. My sympathy goes to the Capitol police officer who lost his life in the line of duty. The rest of them – the perpetrators of the mayhem launched at our cities over ten months, and the attackers who stormed the Capitol building last week, bear the full responsibility of their actions.
“Mostly peaceful.” Stop it. Just stop it.
Catholics cannot be conspiracy theorists. They can’t fall for all the bunk online. It is a distraction and the demonic purpose of it is for people to stop believing that anything is true.
As Catholics, our job is to tell people that God- eternal, immense, all-powerful, all-knowing- came to Earth as a baby through a Virgin birth and chose to let people kill Him to offer Himself as a sacrifice so that people – even really bad people- could go to Heaven when they die.
Why would they believe you if you are also teaching falsehoods or questionable things from the Internet?
Please put God first, or as St. Louis de Montfort’s motto was God Alone.
As for conspiracy theories the Left does exploit it I agree. Most Catholics are putting God first by exposing the evil of the party of death, the Democrat party!
That takes 2 minutes.
Mostly peaceful protests! Don’t make me laugh. While people are murdered thousands of businesses destroyed? Lives ruined forever. The impact is astronomical! As for the people killed in the Capitol one life lost is a tragedy & everyone involved should be held accountable & that includes those who invited it. Take a guess who that is! Isn’t it troubling that what we know of the victims they were all Trump supporters?
Thousands of businesses were not destroyed by violence this summer and mostly lives were not forever changed. Are you confusing people’s rational response to a deadly virus with violence?
You’re in denial. Just ask the relatives of those who died & the people whose protperty & businesses were destroyed & the cities devastated by all the violence.
@ Anonymous 10:18 am – Interestingly, my liberal friends are also clueless about the destruction caused by leftist hooligans over many months. Do you know why? They were glued to CNN and MSNBC, networks that happily glossed over the bad parts and highlighted the charity of Kamala Harris, as she bailed the scum out of prison. You were lied to.
Very well said, Anonymous (Jan 8 at 2:25pm). Conspiracy theories are often grave offenses against the 8th Commandment.
There is usually a negligible amount of fraud in every election. My deceased mother, who resided in Texas, received a ballot for the 2016 presidential election a year after she died. Undoubtedly, there was significant fraud in the 2020 presidential election because it is impossible that 74 million decent Americans voted for the megalomaniac, pathological liar who currently is the president. Perhaps the republicans inflated the number of votes Trump received.
Negligible amount of fraud…I don’t think so. And how could the Republicans inflate the number of votes Trump received when it was the massive fraud by the Dems who stole this election!
Ronnie will you spend the next 4 years typing the same words over and over? Every response you post says the same thing. Spewing hate on this forum will not compensate your feeling of powerlessness.
Don’t you see that?
It’s apparent you haven’t read my posts fully & are upset so maybe I touched a nerve. I apologize for that but sometimes the truth can hurt. But by the grace of God go I.
Face it people, the country is broken and falling apart. The country is divided and impossible to reconcile. One side will prevail over the other. Things are out of control and the end will be chaos within most of our lifetimes, maybe within the next four years. The best days are behind us, and terrible days lie ahead. The Church’s shepherds have no wisdom or comfort to offer. God seems utterly absent.
It wasn’t negligible it was massive voter fraud! These liberals are all in denial or worse intentionally covering-up but that’s their agenda.
Kevin T., get off the Internet and read the Bible.
indeed i know people are wondering the same thing. if america will even survive and what the church will look like. i know people who have stopped praying because they look around and see what’s happened to the world and the church and they conclude it doesn’t do any good. prayer of the church should have stopped this evil months ago if it worked. i know young adults who are losing hope for a happy future. i know people who won’t go to mass after restrictions are lifted because they are so mad. i know people who are depressed. but i don’t know anyone who has died from covid nor even been in emergency care for covid. if the bishop thinks parish life returns to what it was after this, think again. if god is real he’s not helping his church?
Frank…I know we can get really down and believe God has abandoned us. But He hasn’t. He wants to use us, we are His Hands and His mouthpiece. We need to pray more and ask the Holy Spirit to enlighten our minds and hearts. And I do this myself, I react too fast to the hate and disparaging remarks of the Left with uncharitable comments. It’s just too frustrating when they lie and reinvent history all the time. Competing with the infiltrators on this and other Christian/Catholic sites is overwhelming sometimes but we can’t let Satan have the upper hand. And we can’t give up. Like I mentioned before He hasn’t given up on us. He is cleaning out His Church, but it will get worse, and our county too. The only thing we have to fear is hopelessness. We can’t throw up our hands and surrender. We have to fight back wherever is needed or whatever we can do.
Ronnie, by fighting back, you mean something along the lines of the armed murderous mob who entered the Capitol building on Wednesday?
I’m sitting here aghast that you find the comments by those on the left to be hateful and disparaging. Have you ever stopped and read the things you write?
There simply was no massive voter fraud. Republican governors, secretaries of state, Senators and House members have all tried to tell you that. When we have people running around telling conspiracy theories we end up with chaos and armed mobs in the Capitol. The insanity has got to end.
Don’t you just love these coordinated attacks on this site from different people or the same person with different names? The Left are the violent ones with the last few months of murder, looting. Vandalism burning down businesses total destruction. And let’s wait for the facts to get out before we pre-judge who was responsible.
“Ronnie, by fighting back, you mean something along the lines of the armed murderous mob who entered the Capitol building on Wednesday?”
Wow! Now we can’t use the words fighting back or it’s taken as inciting violence? Oh, my goodness people are losing it. And let’s not forget the “summer of rage” where how many innocent people died, at least 30! No mention of that though. And yes, there was massive voter fraud. Those so-called Republicans in name only were too cowardly to investigate and they’re finished, just wait and see. Yes, the Left wing insanity and lies have to stop.
“For we are not contending with against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world leaders of this present darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore put on the armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil days….”
Ronnie, “coordinated attacks “? Are the socialist abortionists out to get you? No one asked me to join in.
To Anon: this will not end and may it never end.
But Anon was oh so quiet last summer when BLM attacked over 28 cities killing more and doing more damage.
American Majority…..Nice name is it new? And I know your game. Satan and his followers cannot “get me”!
Ronnie, they are good at “gaslighting”. They do it when telling us normally developing children or people can actually change their sex. They do it when they try to tell us none of the vaccines were tested with or from aborted cell lines. They do it when they lie about small businesses being destroyed during “protests”, when the facts are many small businesses were destroyed, including black owned businesses. They want the businesses destroyed so they can buy them at low price and take over with socialism the ultimate goal.
Oh dear. Here we go again with Kevin T’s maudlin “lamentations” which aren’t at all helpful. Why not? Kevin T., we’ve all known about what’s wrong about this country for years, if not decades. What is “novel” about what you’re saying is that you have the gall to blame the Church and God Himself for His “absence.” You sound outright scared. No wonder. Those who separate themselves from God’s Church by denouncing its ministers will certainly feel scared and vulnerable. But those who have remained loyal to the Church, who know that God is at work in it and through it, regardless of its weaknesses, are seemingly doing much better than you are. These are the times to return to the Church, people, in much closer to communion with her and thereby closer to God Himself.
Of course the Church is at fault. We are the Church. In my seventy-eight years, I have seen so many “good” Catholics stab each other in the back to steal each others’ husbands or wives I have lost count. Then they run off to other “churches” to get their second, third or fourth marriages and cause havoc there. Then they have the audacity to call President Trump immoral when they are doing the very same things themselves. By the way, Biden’s wife’s ex husband has a book out. His take on it should be interesting.
Oh dear. On the one hand you have a Kevin T who erroneously blames the Church for what ills America; and in the other you have an Anne TE who ascribes to the whole Church the weaknesses and sins of its individual members. Wrong reasoning all around imho.
No, I am not ascribing such things to all the Church. As the saying goes, “If the shoe fits, wear it”. If not, don’t worry.
I was not talking about righteous Catholics, but unrighteous ones. Many of us have been accomplices to such things through ignorance or by deliberately encouraging them. I know in the past I did not understand all the teachings and laws of the Church on marriage. I attended weddings of two second marriages, though I should not have since some of the men and women had previous marriages that perhaps were valid.
So Jon, tell us, what is right reasoning (in your opinion)?
Right reasoning is whatever he happens to think
The election was stolen! Really? If someone thinks that it was stolen, they should prove it. That is how we do things in this country. President Trump used all the legal rights he had to question the vote count in several states and precincts. He went to court nearly 60 times to prove his point. In all but one court case, his charges were dismissed or found wanting. We could assume that would be the end of it, but not for some people. So let’s look at more evidence. Some claim that their dead parents or grandparents got ballots in the mail. Not unexpected. Ballots are generally sent to registered voters. Until the registrars are notified of the death, the person is still registered. As long as the dead person didn’t vote, no harm no foul. Some point to suitcases of ballots retrieved from under a table. All the ballots in that area go into a box with wheels and a long handle to facilitate easy transportation. The video of the counting room shows that the ballots were handled according to the rules. Some complain that their vote watchers were not allowed in the counting room. That is true because there were already people from both parties watching the counting and pointing out irregular ballots. Some wondered how Trump could have a massive lead in the evening and lose in the morning. That is because same-day ballots were counted first and mail-in ballots counted later. It goes on and on. One may not like the results of the voting, but there is no substantial evidence of fraud or stealing. It is important to evaluate the news that we receive, either Fox or MSNBC, but most importantly if it comes from Newsmax, Anon, or Q. Let’s start dealing with facts so that we can address the real problems of the country and redress the grievances of those who feel left behind.
Bob One is wrong again. You gladly accept what the ruling class spews; whether you believe it or not, 74MM Americans believe the election was stolen; you should be very worried. “Some wondered how Trump could have a massive lead in the evening and lose in the morning. That is because same-day ballots were counted first and mail-in ballots counted later.” Utter nonsense Bob One for this to happen in all 4 states that were in question was 1 in 1 quadrillion.
Bohemond – You and Ronnie and a few others have chosen to live in hell. Move forward. Examine your conscience and find peace in your hearts before you present yourselves for Holy Communion again.
No, Kristina, we have chosen not accept the lie of the ruling elite.
Kristina….Are you serious? Maybe it’s you who needs to go to Confession and stop calling good evil and evil good. By the way, I’ll take the advice of my Priest first unless you’ve been ordained to the Priesthood even though it’s not possible. And not everyone who says “Lord, Lord,” will enter the kingdom of Heaven. You sound similar to pro-abortion supporter Nancy Pelosi who is totally confused on faith and reason. God help her when she has to meet her Maker. I truly hope those millions of babies whose lives were taken with her support don’t condemn her forever.
Kristina, we did not chose to live in hell; it was brought to us by an ungodly Supreme Court that legalized abortion, thus taking away the right to life, and setting the stage for euthanasia and all the other horrors, such as the Obama Administration trying to get rid of the conscience clauses and oaths for physicians. If physicians are not made to take an oath against taking life, from conception to death, anything goes. You will see when your turn comes, and come it will. Remember you were warned, but no one will be there to save you. You will reap what you have sown.
I love Fr. Rich Perozich and hold him in very high regard, but I strongly think his belief of widespread voter fraud is wrong. An individual who I think is regularly making a great analysis of this whole mess is Catholic Answers founder and former president Karl Keating. His regular Facebook posts on this are public and are definitely worth checking out.
I remember when he made the news update on Saturday Night Live.
I think the mainstream media has done a great job of hiding and covering up the evidence of widespread election fraud. The social media outlets are blocking those who present the evidence. We can go back and forth, but we are probably not going to convince each other. I have no trust in the mainstream media and little trust in the government and even most church leaders at this time, and nothing you tell me will convince me against evidence I have seen. The most that we can agree on is to disagree. God help us,
It’s not the mainstream media who says there was no widespread fraud that would have overturned the election. There is 1) Logic: Dems lost downballot races that in a rigged election they would have won. 2) Republican Secretaries of State certified Biden victories in places like Georgia. 3) Something like 50 lawsuits aiming to show fraud got thrown out often by Republican judges and evan a few Trump appointed judges 4) The final result was certified by a Republican Senate and the Vice President of the United States.
In fact, if there was vote tampering, it was what Trump attempted by asking that same Georgia Secretary of state to just find him a few thousand votes so he could win there.
I really have to wonder if Christ came to earth tonight and told you that BIden won, would you believe him?
Oh give it up will you! The evidence was not thoroughly examined or investigated.
It was prevented from a hearing. It was censored. What is everyone afraid of?
I believe Christ allows evil to become more manifest for what it is and for the greater good so that people are forced to choose (choose life or death) openly between good and evil. No excuse in judgement. Knowingly or unknowingly aligns themselves with Satan. So would you believe Christ and the reason for allowing this evil administration to succeed in massive voter fraud?
Ronnie I hope you copy/paste these multiple repeated responses rather than typing it out each time.
Ronnie, you realize that Biden was elected, that there have been and will be ongoing investigations into fraud, but that both Biden and Trump supporters, including most of the leadership of the Republican Party, that whatever level of fraud there was, could not possibly have been enough to overturn the election.
As has been pointed out elsewhere, there are always cases of fraud. Mostly small, a few hundred votes here or there in a state. They get investigated and prosecuted. But to cause tens of thousands of votes in many states requires a level of fraud that would be easily detectable. Just think about the logistics that would have to happen.
When people DO think about the logistics, they turn to the companies that make the hardware and software that counts the votes. And guess what….those companies know that they didn’t tamper with the election and started suing the right wing media who accused them of doing so. And those outlets immediately admitted that their allegations were not true.
If the leadership of the Republican party and the courts are telling you there was no massive fraud, why do you keep blaming socialists (who are not even by any means most Democrats) and Nancy Pelosi, and the long dead Hugo Chavez? Who should “give it up”. I hardly think that it isn’t the person who is listening to facts and trying to preserve confidence in fair elections. It is you (and others like you) who wants to overturn this election who should give it up. It is undermining people’s faith in democracy in the U.S. and around the world.
Annette. Enough with the ridicule & hate. Pray for me & I will for you. Hate destroys. Open your heart to the truth.
Yes, Jesus I would trust!
Not all Republicans really believe in their pro life platform either for their own reasons. As JD wrote, “Jesus I would trust”. Trust in anyone else is up for grabs. “By their fruits you will know them.”
I’m sure you are silent when you listen to Fox News and read Breitbart.
Our cities aren’t burning and livelihoods lost. Our democracy, however, is in peril.
For crying out loud, there were a few insured businesses who lost their front windows and a few thousand dollars of insured merch. At the hands who saw the peaceful protest to loot.
Thousands of peaceful protests. A few of them were large enough that encourage looters to loot. That doesn’t mean that the legitimate protesters were the looters, OK? They didn’t go into the streets for the purpose of looting. They went into the streets to protest the unjust treatment of black men (and women), often at the hands of police. Do you not see the difference?
And once again, cannot you see that the evil action of the looters does not justify morally the wonton attempt to overthrow the American Government? And for those of you who are Republican, can’t you see that this egregious insurrection only brings the middle to the Democrats? Can’t you see that the attack on the Capitol was at least as much by anarchist elements who want to destroy both political parties? Can you please for one moment think 2 or 3 moves ahead?
Can’t we just stop with the bickering? Ask God for the grace to love one another. Pray pray for America.
I am scared for our country. Our freedoms are what is causing our downfall at the same time that we are losing our freedoms. This has to be demonic in origin.
Please go back to basic Catholicism-the kind that our grandparents and great-grandparents practiced. Take care of your corner of the vineyard. Make sure all you family members have a rosary and know how to pray it. Pray as a family. Read the Gospels. Pray the psalms. (We can read the Old Testament now where our grandparents or great grandparents or great great grandparents couldn’t.)
Do your Catholic prayers morning and evening. Our Father, Hail Mary, Glory be, Apostles Creed, Acts of Faith, Hope, Love and Contrition, Confiteor, Come Holy Spirit, Pray to your Guardian Angel and to your patron Saints.
Please, be at Peace in Christ Jesus. Fulfill your duties and obey God’s laws.
The Internet is a means of conversation and where words are many, sin is not lacking. Obey Christian rules of conversation.
Don’t blame other people for anything. Take responsibility for your own thoughts, actions and words. It is ok to admonish but there are Christian ways to do it. View everyone as greater than yourself. Treat them with respect and love. Do not return evil for evil.
But you know all this…
To Evil, please stop wagging your fingering at us, we are ignoring you. You and your leftist friends are now in complete control, with leftist now censoring any view they disagree with. This is what I always knew what you on the Left were about, controlling and shutting down your opponents.
YFC Who are you trying to convince?